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2769993, The Krautrock Albums Post
Posted by Funkymusic, Tue Jan-15-13 03:43 PM
Been hooked on this Beak>> album lately with its murky and moody feel. What ya'll thought about the album and your other favorite Krautrock albums of all time.
2769996, RE: The BEAK Post
Posted by howisya, Tue Jan-15-13 03:49 PM
>Been hooked on this Beak>> album lately with its murky and
>moody feel. What ya'll thought about the album

i like both beak albums. did you listen to the other geoff barrow album i posted about in your 2012 post? some common ground there but far less motorik.
2770005, RE: The BEAK Post
Posted by Funkymusic, Tue Jan-15-13 04:06 PM
Ya I heard it but wasnt too much into it. What I like about the >> album is that it is a masterpiece in mood. The doom and gloom is captured really nicely. I like that the album also has alot of different genres in it, such as electronic and punk.

Have not heard the first Beak album. Ill post back once I hear it in full today.
2770006, RE: The BEAK Post
Posted by howisya, Tue Jan-15-13 04:13 PM
>Ya I heard it but wasnt too much into it.

do you like movies? it's some classic early '80s sci-fi shit. great album.


>What I like about
>the >> album is that it is a masterpiece in mood. The doom
>and gloom is captured really nicely. I like that the album
>also has alot of different genres in it, such as electronic
>and punk.
>
>Have not heard the first Beak album. Ill post back once I
>hear it in full today.

a lot of the same. post-punk, goth rock, psychedelic rock, krautrock.

as far as krautrock, i didn't want to oversell my comments in the aforementioned other post with comparisons, but http://rossbaker.bandcamp.com/album/the-blackbirds-revenge is at times similar to freeform classic instrumental krautrock.
2770022, RE: The BEAK Post
Posted by Funkymusic, Tue Jan-15-13 04:56 PM
I heard it but not all the way through so I will give it another try today. thanks for your enthusiasm. Just heard the first beak> album and I didnt find it as "accessible" as their second. I know how much you hate that word but you know what I mean. There are some cool experimental moments but not worthy enough to buy. I will buy the second one though :)
2770027, RE: The BEAK Post
Posted by howisya, Tue Jan-15-13 05:11 PM
>I didnt find it as "accessible" as
>their second. I know how much you hate that word but you know
>what I mean.

i don't hate it, i just prefer artists making music on their own terms rather than catering to the perceived limitations of their audience.


>There are some cool experimental moments but not
>worthy enough to buy. I will buy the second one though :)

i really don't hear the two albums as so different. the first beak album grew on me the more i listened, which probably made the second one more "accessible" to me on first listen.
2770038, RE: The BEAK Post
Posted by Funkymusic, Tue Jan-15-13 05:39 PM
Maybe I have to come back to it, but I "got" the second one on first listen. I think the first one needs repeated listens. I will come back to it in a bit. Anyhow, hope you're doing well Trav.
2771766, cross-post (Replying To Myself... Again Edition)
Posted by howisya, Tue Jan-22-13 12:47 PM
>>I didnt find it as "accessible" as
>>their second. I know how much you hate that word but you
>know
>>what I mean.
>
>i don't hate it, i just prefer artists making music on their
>own terms rather than catering to the perceived limitations of
>their audience.

http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=5&topic_id=2771502&mesg_id=2771502&page=#2771759
2771785, RE: cross-post (Replying To Myself... Again Edition)
Posted by Funkymusic, Tue Jan-22-13 02:51 PM
I absolutely agree with what Zuma said. People's taste change or they start to like music that they didnt admire as much before. Thats the great thing about music, is that you can always come back to it and your opinion might change. Next thing you know, Ill like the album >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>this much.
2785061, Howard comes through again...
Posted by Funkymusic, Fri Mar-08-13 03:35 PM
Heard the first Beak> again. BANGER!
2770331, just found out we (vex ruffin) are opening for BEAK
Posted by UncleClimax, Wed Jan-16-13 05:31 PM
in LA and SF next month...pretty excited.
2778581, There's a Beak Bonus Album out there n/m
Posted by imcvspl, Thu Feb-14-13 11:20 PM

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2770137, RE: The Krautrock Albums Post
Posted by ajiav, Wed Jan-16-13 01:10 AM
I don't know the beak album(s) although I've seen it(them); assumed it was some indie rock thing which is a faulty tendency of mine in general.

I also would like to be more familiar with krautrock in general - I know the main names and artists and I enjoy things I've heard but just haven't gone down all the way down the road yet.

I did buy this Kluster set a few years ago which has three of their albums (maybe the only ones in that incarnation?): http://www.amazon.com/Kluster-1970-1971/dp/B0015X6RL2/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1358316159&sr=1-1&keywords=kluster

I like this Kluster set for being a little more experimental/electronic, while some of what I gather about Krautrock in general, correctly or not, is that it can be closer to psychedelic rock and I feel like I might have to be in a particular mood --- thinking here of Amun Duul (sp?) or Ash Ra Tempel. I think I have heard Can in mumu that I liked, and by appearances I think I would probably like Tangerine Dream. Just have to get around to it someday, when I do it will probably be a lot at once.
2770204, I need a general intro to krautrock...
Posted by spew120, Wed Jan-16-13 10:42 AM
One of those genres that I haven't quite grasped yet.
2770205, RE: I need a general intro to krautrock...
Posted by howisya, Wed Jan-16-13 10:47 AM
it's more on the avant-garde and meditative than rocking side, but i like this mix as a sampler: http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=5&topic_id=2696702&mesg_id=2696702&listing_type=search#2750491
2770209, muchos gracias
Posted by spew120, Wed Jan-16-13 11:22 AM
2770211, Another starting point:
Posted by Ghetto Black, Wed Jan-16-13 11:29 AM
Can
Oh Yeah (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49PvnYCKZkM)
Mushroom (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Me6BdB-qWvI)
Vitamin C (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9a1NhRbNJ_Y)

Neu
Hallogallo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAXYMOgHQI4)
Negativland (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23HfAHSKWlk)
Hero (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYeVvp8sdmg)

Faust
Jennifer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grvr4nK4AZA)
The Sad Skinhead (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rF30RpT2cOU)
Krautrock (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3YA_jR6qn0)

Songs from three of the most celebrated bands of the genre.
2770300, Was playing this earlier today.
Posted by Funkymusic, Wed Jan-16-13 04:17 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dDmmrpyVnk
2770330, this bbc doc is suite
Posted by UncleClimax, Wed Jan-16-13 05:31 PM
http://youtu.be/cHUwkYkn_kA
2775780, Contemporary German Kraut: Stabil Elite
Posted by imcvspl, Tue Feb-05-13 04:59 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpDnjB_okq4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Jqv5d_IMF_A#!
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2780820, i liked that "Krautkamerad"
Posted by howisya, Fri Feb-22-13 01:41 PM
http://dublab.com/stabil-elite-krautkamerad/ (mp3 for those who want it)

also shoutout to dublab for fulfilling my request and reposting http://dublab.com/boom-bip-made-in-slow-motion-11-07-03/
2780905, RE: Contemporary German Kraut: Stabil Elite
Posted by Funkymusic, Fri Feb-22-13 06:30 PM
That video and song was great. seems they have a full length, Douze Pouze, and a e.p. I hope theyre as good as that.
2777791, FunkyBeaker
Posted by howisya, Tue Feb-12-13 03:22 PM
payam, since you like beak and the edgier parts of 'third,' make sure to give a listen to the horrors album geoff produced a few years back, 'primary colours,' he put his foot in that one
2777809, RE: FunkyBeaker
Posted by Funkymusic, Tue Feb-12-13 04:05 PM
ya, justin (shockzilla) told me about them and that it was produced by Geoff. Will do, its on my list to check out.
2777847, does Guapo count?
Posted by Fructose Soda, Tue Feb-12-13 05:41 PM
I think they kinda do, so... I'm really into them.
They're more recent than Can.
2778813, Up for Future Days
Posted by Funkymusic, Fri Feb-15-13 05:32 PM
Even though tago mago is their most celebrated, FD is their peak as musicians.
2779577, More new kraut - Kellar
Posted by imcvspl, Mon Feb-18-13 11:38 PM
http://bluetapes.co.uk/product/blue-six-kellar
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2779580, RE: Sidepost:
Posted by Austin, Mon Feb-18-13 11:53 PM
After watching the BBC doc, can there really be "new Kraut"?

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2779582, how bout 'nu-kraut' lol!!
Posted by imcvspl, Mon Feb-18-13 11:58 PM
haven't seen the doc, depends on if kraut is a methodology or a sound... i think.
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2779586, RE: Wasn't ever really either, if you ask me.
Posted by Austin, Tue Feb-19-13 12:12 AM

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2780821, for inspiration (c) madonna
Posted by howisya, Fri Feb-22-13 01:44 PM
certain genres or styles of music existed for a moment of time, often in just a region, and krautrock is one of those, but there is music since then influenced by it... i could debate people like imcvspl and Funkymusic for applying the term to current music, but instead i'm just happy they are finding and sharing music they like and opening up the conversation about krautrock in general
2785648, Mo Modern: Anyone listen to Clinic
Posted by imcvspl, Mon Mar-11-13 01:54 PM
Put on by a onehotrix rework of their last album "Free Reign" from 2012. Interesting.

Incidentally I think I'm being drawn to stuff that at least has a kraut leaning because I've given up on rock and this stuff may be the last bastion of hope of pushing the rock sound further, rather than just let it die. Nothing I've talked about has done it yet but there's more potential for me in this stuff than whatever is being called rock today.

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2836358, The boys from Liverpool?
Posted by Nodima, Tue Aug-27-13 07:43 PM
Internal Wrangler was amazing back in my indie heyday. Never journeyed further though, I was given the impression they lost their way along the same lines as the boys from Dismemberment Plan (post-breakup), which is a weird parallel to draw in my memory considering they weren't very similar bands.


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2786884, if u fuck with beak> also check for anika
Posted by UncleClimax, Thu Mar-14-13 12:07 PM
nm
2787096, RE: if u fuck with beak> also check for anika
Posted by Funkymusic, Thu Mar-14-13 07:45 PM
wow, thanks for this. Didnt even know this was on Stones Throw and Barrow produced it!
2800381, Follakzoid - II
Posted by Funkymusic, Fri Apr-26-13 10:47 AM
2836344, Can - Soon Over Babaluma
Posted by Funkymusic, Tue Aug-27-13 06:35 PM
dont overlook this one. some good music in there.
2836359, Faust is another must-check
Posted by Nodima, Tue Aug-27-13 07:45 PM
mainly Faust So Far and Faust IV for me.




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2836572, RE: Faust is another must-check
Posted by Funkymusic, Wed Aug-28-13 01:06 PM
I did like Jennifer and some other song off IV.
2847495, RE: Just picked up the two Harmonia albums on reissue vinyl.
Posted by Austin, Sat Oct-12-13 09:39 AM
This past week.

It's basically the original synth-pop.


``i know you are fake. . . 'cause man, i'm the same.``
"king of rain." http://bit.ly/GNVnDp
"untitled 4." http://bit.ly/1772QTW
"doctor who nursery rhyme." http://bit.ly/18oC1gH
"1.5.2.0" http://bit.ly/18UMv7A
"for vini." http://bit.ly/19HQbtF
2847499, the lovechild of Neu! and Cluster
Posted by JayEmm, Sat Oct-12-13 09:57 AM
'Musik Von Harmonia' is such a brilliant album
2864068, Can Doc
Posted by imcvspl, Fri Jan-03-14 09:40 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNhuwkmmzak

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"I ain't no entertainer, and ain't trying to be one. I am 1 thing, a musician." © Miles

"When the music stops he falls back in the abyss."