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2716740, D'Angelo Live at the House of Blues 7/4/2012
Posted by Vhien, Thu Jul-05-12 02:56 AM
The show was pretty damn good. Russ Elevado wandered the crowds a little bit in the beginning and Alan Leeds was surveying things from the stage a lil'. Anyways, the setlist was largely the same with a few additions. From what I recall, this was it:

Donuts (Intro)?
Playa Playa
Feel Like Makin' Love
Ain’t That Easy
Devil’s Pie
Chicken Grease
Really Love
The Charade
I've Been Watching You
Shit, Damn, Motherfucker
Medley: Brown Sugar, Higher, One Mo’Gin, Send It On
Another Life
Lady
Sugar Daddy/(Children?)
Encore: Brown Sugar/Skin Tight

I dug the Intro and I really liked hearing 'Really Love' without 15 talking over it. heh.
2716742, RE: Sounds circle-jerkingly nauseating.
Posted by Austin, Thu Jul-05-12 03:08 AM
>Russ Elevado wandered the
>crowds a little bit in the beginning and Alan Leeds was
>surveying things from the stage a lil'.

I seriously can't wait for this "comeback" to fail.

Yes, I'm mad.

~Austin

http://austintayeshus.blogspot.com
http://www.last.fm/user/Austintayeshus
http://twitter.com/Austintayeshus
http://soundcloud.com/austintayeshus
2716765, damn. why?
Posted by SoWhat, Thu Jul-05-12 07:22 AM
2717576, RE: False idol worship.
Posted by Austin, Sun Jul-08-12 01:06 AM
He's not even that much of a singer.

Rudimentary at any instruments he plays.

People took Erykah to task for not having any fleshed out songs on her last two albums? And Voodoo isn't the same exact thing?

~Austin

http://austintayeshus.blogspot.com
http://www.last.fm/user/Austintayeshus
http://twitter.com/Austintayeshus
http://soundcloud.com/austintayeshus
2717378, ugh. et tu?
Posted by ninjitsu, Sat Jul-07-12 08:47 AM
2716746, his unsung episode is coming up real soon
Posted by mistermaxxx08, Thu Jul-05-12 04:12 AM
that's what get folks hyped? hmmmm ok
2717379, here you are again
Posted by ninjitsu, Sat Jul-07-12 08:48 AM
in another d'angelo post.

just can't stay away, hm?
2716748, thanks for the setlist
Posted by stimuland, Thu Jul-05-12 04:31 AM
2716750, Thank you. :- )
Posted by Silky1, Thu Jul-05-12 04:58 AM
Edit: Is Jesse still with him ?



>The show was pretty damn good. Russ Elevado wandered the
>crowds a little bit in the beginning and Alan Leeds was
>surveying things from the stage a lil'. Anyways, the setlist
>was largely the same with a few additions. From what I recall,
>this was it:
>
>Donuts (Intro)?
>Playa Playa
>Feel Like Makin' Love
>Ain’t That Easy
>Devil’s Pie
>Chicken Grease
>Really Love
>The Charade
>I've Been Watching You
>Shit, Damn, Motherfucker
>Medley: Brown Sugar, Higher, One Mo’Gin, Send It On
>Another Life
>Lady
>Sugar Daddy/(Children?)
>Encore: Brown Sugar/Skin Tight
>
>I dug the Intro and I really liked hearing 'Really Love'
>without 15 talking over it. heh.


silk.later Reunion radio with Old P. & Silk http://reunionradio.blogspot.com/

"i'm talking about *Balls Deep*....In Love (c)Cleveland Jr.

He was cultivating a fine nigga farm (c)Goldmind.

R.I.P Jamie Hubley
2716776, RE: Thank you. :- )
Posted by Vhien, Thu Jul-05-12 07:51 AM
Hm, Jesse Johnson, Kendra Foster, Ray Angry, Pookie, Chris Daddy Dave, Pino Palladino, Robert Lumzy, Jermaine Holmes, Isaiah Sharkey and another BG singer that seems new were up there. So basically the old line-up with two keyboardists if I'm not mistaken, it looked like it from my angle like there were two folk on the keys. I wish I knew who that other BG singer was though. Oh, and name change again. He's not calling his band 'Testimony' or 'Spades', but 'Vanguard' now.
2716953, Awesome. Thanks again.
Posted by Silky1, Thu Jul-05-12 06:01 PM
>Hm, Jesse Johnson, Kendra Foster, Ray Angry, Pookie, Chris
>Daddy Dave, Pino Palladino, Robert Lumzy, Jermaine Holmes,
>Isaiah Sharkey and another BG singer that seems new >awesome] were up there. So basically the old line-up with two
>keyboardists if I'm not mistaken, it looked like it from my
>angle like there were two folk on the keys. I wish I knew who
>that other BG singer was though. Oh, and name change again.
>He's not calling his band 'Testimony' or 'Spades', but
>'Vanguard' now.


silk.later Reunion radio with Old P. & Silk http://reunionradio.blogspot.com/

"i'm talking about *Balls Deep*....In Love (c)Cleveland Jr.

He was cultivating a fine nigga farm (c)Goldmind.

R.I.P Jamie Hubley
2716761, Great show
Posted by Warren Coolidge, Thu Jul-05-12 06:52 AM
2716877, can add a few details my g?
Posted by bucknchange, Thu Jul-05-12 02:01 PM
i appreciate your perspective a little more than the naysayers
2716908, Edit: I see your review below thanx
Posted by vee-lover, Thu Jul-05-12 03:56 PM
sounds like it was a great show
2716777, Sounds dope
Posted by cbk, Thu Jul-05-12 07:56 AM
2716780, you don't sound blown away...?
Posted by Tiger Woods, Thu Jul-05-12 08:10 AM
2716792, Thanks for this - hopefully you or Warren can review if you get
Posted by Artful Dodger, Thu Jul-05-12 08:56 AM
the chance.

Glad to hear it was a great show.
2716843, RE: D'Angelo Live at the House of Blues 7/4/2012
Posted by Vhien, Thu Jul-05-12 12:07 PM
Really Love: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aReBZfq2bY
2716863, Weird hearing it like this
Posted by betelgeuse, Thu Jul-05-12 01:03 PM
Always appreciated the rawness of the demo. Upclose and personal. He should stay true to that on the album imo, if it ever comes out. No polishing. As for the outro; why not keep it short and sweet? Hope he took that from The Beatles lol
2716895, Okay, I like this.
Posted by AFKAP_of_Darkness, Thu Jul-05-12 03:37 PM
2716900, Damn it sounds good !
Posted by Coco la chapelle, Thu Jul-05-12 03:44 PM
2716902, as old as this song is, i'm surprised he's keeping it.
Posted by MISTA MONOTONE, Thu Jul-05-12 03:46 PM
i'm not mad at all though...i ran ?uest's leak into the ground.
2716912, This ish is incredible!!
Posted by vee-lover, Thu Jul-05-12 04:12 PM
2716923, this is dope.
Posted by El_essence, Thu Jul-05-12 04:36 PM
.
2716935, Nice !
Posted by soulhoper, Thu Jul-05-12 05:19 PM
2716955, I think we might have the first single here, folks.
Posted by Silky1, Thu Jul-05-12 06:07 PM
>Really Love: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aReBZfq2bY


silk.later Reunion radio with Old P. & Silk http://reunionradio.blogspot.com/

"i'm talking about *Balls Deep*....In Love (c)Cleveland Jr.

He was cultivating a fine nigga farm (c)Goldmind.

R.I.P Jamie Hubley
2716959, sounds excellent
Posted by Crash Bandacoot, Thu Jul-05-12 06:16 PM
>


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

"It is better to be silent and thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt"
2717110, RE: D'Angelo Live at the House of Blues 7/4/2012
Posted by G_The_SP, Fri Jul-06-12 05:12 AM
I was mesmerized during this whole song. D is a captivating performer.
2717147, Whaaaaa??
Posted by rtoriq, Fri Jul-06-12 09:53 AM
i'm surprised yall said what yall said about Sugar Daddy but really like this! Not that i don't like it; not at all, because it IS nice, the style is really cool, kinda interesting progression, but it doesn't do as much for as Sugar Daddy does for me. *shrug* S'all a pool of good from what i see so far tho. Gwan D.
2716883, I'll give a more detailed review later....but
Posted by Warren Coolidge, Thu Jul-05-12 02:23 PM
it was really a great show.... I mean it took me back to the days of watching funky concerts in smaller venues when you got to stand up for the show.... like watching P-Funk go for 4 straight hours at the Strand in Redondo Beach...

the highlights for me ...were really the entire thing...honestly a lot of the new material hearing and seeing it live that close is giving me a perspective on where he's going with the new songs.....particularly Really Love .... Another life..... Sugar Daddy.... These are some cool...really catchy tracks that I am very much looking forward to hearing on the album....

Jesse and D's inter-action is just cool man....I mean it's such a solid fit for him musically....

the band is sounding even tighter than what I heard from the Euro Dates.... The medlies were super funky and D is getting his sea legs back to speak....

another thing Kendra Foster being involved now is a huge plus for me.... Been diggin her since she's been down for P-funk (her solo album she had was cold....particularly the song possesion free philosophy)...

Kendra playing D's primary Female background vocalist on stage has loads of possibility...her energy is great and she and D are vibing and interacting great..

Great show man.... again, I'll get more detailed later....on the run today.
2716894, Nice!
Posted by Artful Dodger, Thu Jul-05-12 03:31 PM
2717003, BIG co-sign on Kendra...I'm so happy for her, she's perfect for this.
Posted by Jon, Thu Jul-05-12 08:57 PM
2716884, ok this "devil's pie" is amazing!
Posted by bucknchange, Thu Jul-05-12 02:23 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzXtznqNZrU

he kilt la it looks like
2716898, Shit yeah. Glad he's not just rehashing the voodoo tour performances
Posted by cbk, Thu Jul-05-12 03:41 PM
2716901, Too bad it cut off when they started 'Chicken Grease'
Posted by AFKAP_of_Darkness, Thu Jul-05-12 03:45 PM
shit was actually sounding halfway decent with some tempo and testosterone pumped into it.

As for the "Devil's Pie"... enh.



(Yes, yes, I know... Nobody cares about my opinion)
2716926, lol I know what you mean about CG... it sounded "messier" in a good
Posted by El_essence, Thu Jul-05-12 04:41 PM
way.
2716928, this is like an entirely new song
Posted by vee-lover, Thu Jul-05-12 04:45 PM
2717017, damn.
Posted by SoWhat, Thu Jul-05-12 10:01 PM
2716909, I Give The Show A Solid B
Posted by Luke Cage, Thu Jul-05-12 04:00 PM
It was definitely great and I had a good time but I could also tell that he was VERY nervous. I had a good measuring stick since the first D'angelo show I ever saw was at this same House of Blues probably 16 years ago and I think the last time he was in LA on that stage was like 2002 when he came out with Saadiq to perform "Be Here". You could feel the anticipation in the crowd. Jesse Johnson on guitar is a smart move not just for his talent but you can also tell that dude is trying to mentor/coach D and that was cool to see and probably much needed for D'angelo as an artist and as a person. I caught a bit of soundcheck as the show started later than it was supposed to and there was no opening act. Love the band and I hope he keeps this group together for a long time because they vibe really well together. I loved the version of "Shit, Damn, Motherfucker" and the highlight of the night to me was when D just went out on his own and played the keys. I really think that's where he's most comfortable and you can tell. Watching him on guitar just makes me really wonder where all of this talk about him being "Frank Zappa" like on the instrument could possibly come from because I just don't see how anyone can say that. I'm not a guitar expert but just as a fan you can clearly see the difference between when he holds the guitar and strums and when someone like Jesse Johnson who is an absolute master holds it. Jesse holds that shit like it's his pet that he can make do anything at any time. I was disappointed he didn't do Untitled...I would love to have seen them do maybe a different arrangement of D's biggest song. All in all a great night and it left me hopeful for an album perhaps before the end of the year but most likely the top of the year.
2716956, can't wait to here the full audio
Posted by Crash Bandacoot, Thu Jul-05-12 06:14 PM
>


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

"It is better to be silent and thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt"
2716980, Charade seems to have been developed a little more.
Posted by Tim The Creator, Thu Jul-05-12 08:06 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYk5MutOXO8&feature=player_embedded

dude makes nice Prince tribute tracks though
2716981, RE: D'Angelo Live at the House of Blues 7/4/2012
Posted by G_The_SP, Thu Jul-05-12 08:10 PM
I talked a little bit about the show in GD too, but I was very impressed. It was a really good show, great experience.

I did like that there was no opening act and we went straight to the main course. Before the show started a group of white hipsters came and swarmed my standing space with cans of PBR. I just looked at them like "For reals?" and moved more to the right. I looked around and saw other white hipsters scattered about and I thought to myself, "When did they become D'Angelo fans?" They are ubiquitous in LA.

I got some footage while I was there:

"Feel Like Makin Love/Ain't That Easy"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKC6t-ctD3A

"The Charade"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYSjwUxDqGE

"Send It On"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Dj37cHYhcM

"Another Life"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8xu3zGI5PY
2716982, "Another Life" sounds amazing
Posted by soulsupreme, Thu Jul-05-12 08:17 PM

______________________________________________________________
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"This is your world. Shape it or someone else will." - Gary Lew
2716993, which is why I'm wondering why dude went with Sugar Daddy
Posted by Starbaby Jones, Thu Jul-05-12 08:40 PM
Another Life would have absolutely slayed. Anyway, I really hope we get an album from him this year.
2717001, that would have been 2 slow songs......
Posted by Warren Coolidge, Thu Jul-05-12 08:55 PM
I would have preferred Another life and Lady or Brown Sugar....but if you had to do Untitled, you could have done Another Life...
2717032, if it's a good slower song, it wouldn't matter
Posted by Starbaby Jones, Thu Jul-05-12 10:56 PM
Plus, it's not like Another Life is a ballad. It's clearly hip hop influenced, so the tempo would've been fine. Sugar Daddy just screams album or possibly bonus cut, but Another Life screams single.
2717209, agreed
Posted by soulsupreme, Fri Jul-06-12 02:03 PM
>Another Life would have absolutely slayed. Anyway, I really
>hope we get an album from him this year.

Ditto on a new album.


______________________________________________________________
http://twitter.com/Gedi

"This is your world. Shape it or someone else will." - Gary Lew
2717149, For some reason, I'm only just now noticing how much it reminds me
Posted by AFKAP_of_Darkness, Fri Jul-06-12 10:13 AM
of this song: http://youtu.be/RXqWJmhEV_g

(EDIT: Actually, more specifically this version: http://youtu.be/QVe1hrHuLUE)

Is this arrangement the way it's always been played? Or was this another bit of "homage"?

Pino's bass style is effective here, anyway.
2717152, RE: For some reason, I'm only just now noticing how much it reminds me
Posted by rtoriq, Fri Jul-06-12 10:25 AM
i can't see the link currently, but if it's Breakups2Makeups, that's what i was thinking; but i hate saying things that aren't necessary, especially because the song stands on its own, and ppl should listen to songs without comparison initially. i just didn't want the Abhorrers (because some of yall are BEYOND haters lol) to take that and go Chicken Little and shyt. (Maaaaaany MANY artists have material that has similarities to their earlier work so you Abhorrers DO NOT even go there.)
2717154, My choice was a different Stylistics song
Posted by AFKAP_of_Darkness, Fri Jul-06-12 10:30 AM
"Betcha By Golly Wow" (with a nod to the Prince version) though mixed with something else I couldn't readily identify.

"Break Up to Make Up" is another good candidate, though.
2716998, RE: D'Angelo Live at the House of Blues 7/4/2012
Posted by Silky1, Thu Jul-05-12 08:47 PM
>
>"The Charade"
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYSjwUxDqGE
>
>
>"Another Life"
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8xu3zGI5PY

Damn, he really beefed up "The Charade". And "Another Life", wheeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwww !!!!!


silk.later Reunion radio with Old P. & Silk http://reunionradio.blogspot.com/

"i'm talking about *Balls Deep*....In Love (c)Cleveland Jr.

He was cultivating a fine nigga farm (c)Goldmind.

R.I.P Jamie Hubley
2717103, damn Another Life sounds fantastic
Posted by astralblak, Fri Jul-06-12 03:30 AM
.
2717635, another life sounds good
Posted by GumDrops, Sun Jul-08-12 10:43 AM
2722531, SONY MUSIC ENTERTAINMENT pulled my videos...
Posted by G_The_SP, Sat Jul-21-12 08:28 AM
...on a bullshit copyright claim. As if there weren't already tons of other footage floating around on youtube of his live shows from Europe and 12 years ago. At least we know who he's possibly signed with. :)

*New songs were pulled under Sony's copyright claim.
2716983, more good news.
Posted by SoWhat, Thu Jul-05-12 08:17 PM
i hope he keeps it up.

and if he made it out of LA w/o being jacked for that album i'm disappointed in LA's record execs AND its gangsters/boosters/pirates.
2716990, I apologize, our flight was delayed. lol !!!
Posted by Silky1, Thu Jul-05-12 08:37 PM
>and if he made it out of LA w/o being jacked for that album
>i'm disappointed in LA's record execs AND its
>gangsters/boosters/pirates.

Me and my folks, were ready to peel it out of his paws, too. :-)

silk.later Reunion radio with Old P. & Silk http://reunionradio.blogspot.com/

"i'm talking about *Balls Deep*....In Love (c)Cleveland Jr.

He was cultivating a fine nigga farm (c)Goldmind.

R.I.P Jamie Hubley
2717016, lol
Posted by SoWhat, Thu Jul-05-12 10:00 PM
2717008, the band sounds much tighter
Posted by Crash Bandacoot, Thu Jul-05-12 09:10 PM
it's coming together. really love and another life sound amazing.


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

"It is better to be silent and thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt"
2717019, as long as that turkey has had he outta be expected to put on a
Posted by mistermaxxx08, Thu Jul-05-12 10:07 PM
good show.

whats this about still working out kinks? turkey been AWOL since the last time Paula Abdul was Sober.

he still faking the funk
2717024, damn:
Posted by SoWhat, Thu Jul-05-12 10:14 PM

>whats this about still working out kinks? turkey been AWOL
>since the last time Paula Abdul was Sober.
2717039, maxxx is allergic to D praise
Posted by AlBundy, Thu Jul-05-12 11:06 PM
-------------------------
“The other dude after me didn’t help my case. It was just like…crazy nigga factory going on.”
Dre makes no apologies for his own eccentricities. “I was young, and searching, trying to find myself,” he says. “Never did.”-- Andre B
2717065, that turkey gets overrated Praise for being half baked
Posted by mistermaxxx08, Fri Jul-06-12 12:23 AM
now this turkey needs Jesse Johnson to be his coach? lawd Hav Mercy if that alone ain't wrong i don't know what else is.

turkey been out 20 years almost, and he is as lost as Milt Roomney at a Khalid Muhammad charity.

another reason why he can't touch no R. kelly and you ain't never heard of Kellz having to have Ernie Isley hold his hand for support.
2717206, because of your silly, uninformed comments, you're worthy of being
Posted by vee-lover, Fri Jul-06-12 01:54 PM
completely ignored as it pertains to D'angelo...smh

Are you on R. Kelly's payroll or something?

because that's the only way I can explain why you feel this need to shit on D'angelo in order to prop up R. Kelly.

Both have their lanes...

R Kelly is more of the musical lineage of more *contemporary R&B* acts of the past:
-Aaron Hall/Guy
-Keith Sweat
-Gap Band
-Lionel Ritchie
-Teddy Pendergrass
-Peabo Bryson
-Lutha Vandross
-Gerald Levert
-Jodeci

and so...now, the aformentioned artists ALL made some great and memorable *hit* records but their brand of R&B wasn't as soulful as the R&B artists D'angelo is influenced by and is a musical descendant of but who weren't as big commercially:
-Marvin
-Sly
-Prince
-Donny
-Stevie
-Eddie Kendricks
-James Brown
-Al Green
-Curtis Mayfield

this is why these current crop of so called R&B artists are more influenced by Kells and why he's able to write the type of disposable music he typically does for said artists...
(Avant, Usher, Tre Songs, Joe, Jaheem, Marcus Houston, Bobby Valentine etc.)

none of the above artists would ever ask D to write a song for them because he doesn't make their kind of R&B.

R Kelly makes HITS and his music is and has always been geared towards fitting within a radio format

D'angelo makes ART and doesn't seem to mind that his music isn't radio friendly and/or may not go double platinum

but

because artist A's discography has more hit records in it than artist B's doesn't necessarily make the former the better artists or worthy of more praise...is Lionel Ritchie really a better artist/musician than Donny Hathaway was simply because Donny didn't have as much recorded material or nearly as many hit records than Lionel?

Your silly and half thought out comments makes it difficult to have an honest discussion abt certain artists, specifically D'angelo. Stop posting like you comparing two athletes to one another, this ain't a sports board this is a board abt music discussions...or at least I thought it was.
2717211, WTF b/w LMAO
Posted by AFKAP_of_Darkness, Fri Jul-06-12 02:04 PM
>R Kelly is more of the musical lineage of more *contemporary
>R&B* acts of the past:
>-Aaron Hall/Guy
>-Keith Sweat
>-Gap Band
>-Lionel Ritchie
>-Teddy Pendergrass
>-Peabo Bryson
>-Lutha Vandross
>-Gerald Levert
>-Jodeci
>
>and so...now, the aformentioned artists ALL made some great
>and memorable *hit* records but their brand of R&B wasn't as
>soulful as the R&B artists D'angelo is influenced by and is a
>musical descendant of but who weren't as big commercially:
>-Marvin
>-Sly
>-Prince
>-Donny
>-Stevie
>-Eddie Kendricks
>-James Brown
>-Al Green
>-Curtis Mayfield

Did this cat just say that Marvin Gaye, Sly Stone, Prince, Stevie Wonder, James Brown and Al Green were not as big commercially as Aaron Hall, Jodeci, Gerald Levert and Peabo Bryson?

Elizabeth, I'm comin' to join you honey.


>R Kelly makes HITS and his music is and has always been geared
>towards fitting within a radio format

The artists D'Angelo is most influenced by also made HITS. Why hasn't D shown himself to be able to do that.

>D'angelo makes ART and doesn't seem to mind that his music
>isn't radio friendly and/or may not go double platinum

He minds. Fuck the dumb... If he could make music that was both artistic and wildly popular the way Prince did, you're telling me he wouldn't do it?


>Your silly and half thought out comments makes it difficult to
>have an honest discussion abt certain artists, specifically
>D'angelo. Stop posting like you comparing two athletes to one
>another, this ain't a sports board this is a board abt music
>discussions...or at least I thought it was.

Irony that this dude is calling someone else's post "silly and half thought out"... I actually opted to ignore some of the other ignorant statements in here because I don't want to turn this into that kind of poast.

Just enjoy your D'Angelo music and shut the hell up on talking about Soul music history, as it is clearly something that you don't have even an iota of mistermaxxx's knowledge of.

Please.

EDIT: By the way, did you know that Peabo Bryson is actually one of D'Angelo's biggest influences? http://articles.latimes.com/1995-08-18/entertainment/ca-36622_1_brown-sugar/2
2717215, lol @ you being maxx's man servant now...lolol....
Posted by Warren Coolidge, Fri Jul-06-12 02:07 PM
look at that mirror you're bringing out Jerome....lol

2717216, You are SO interested in me and what I do.
Posted by AFKAP_of_Darkness, Fri Jul-06-12 02:09 PM
I'ma email you the address of my fan club later so you can send for an 8 x 10 glossy of your idol to put under your pillow when you sleep.
2717247, that's funny because I said the same thing abt you
Posted by vee-lover, Fri Jul-06-12 03:04 PM
>I'ma email you the address of my fan club later so you can
>send for an 8 x 10 glossy of your idol to put under your
>pillow when you sleep.
2717264, D'Angelo hate makes for strange bed fellows...
Posted by Warren Coolidge, Fri Jul-06-12 03:48 PM
I'm cool with Maxx and all be he comes out of looney left field sometimes....and little X is just a loon...

but here you are running with them all in the name of D'Hate...

very funny in a disturbing type of way..

You cool with how this all makes you look??? honestly.

2717396, You're defending the guy who said Peabo was bigger than James Brown
Posted by AFKAP_of_Darkness, Sat Jul-07-12 10:47 AM
I'd say blind D'Angelo worship (a.k.a. "Reality Hate") makes for even stranger bedfellows

2717401, nah, actually you're the one defending Maxx in here, WC just
Posted by vee-lover, Sat Jul-07-12 11:55 AM
pointed how bitchmade that was of you...

and I would keep bringing up things that I never said as a way to deflect from your inability to comprehend if I were you too
2717446, how many times u done the same with maxs' ridiculously biased buhind lol
Posted by rdhull, Sat Jul-07-12 02:14 PM
we see you


2717448, What did I do, though?
Posted by AFKAP_of_Darkness, Sat Jul-07-12 02:22 PM
Y'all are making it about me defending maxxx, but CLEARLY the point of my post (right from the subject line) is that it was a reaction to hilariously, tragically ignorant statements by vee-lover, like the fact notion that Jodeci were more commercially successful than Prince and James Brown, or that Stevie Wonder was some kind of cult artist.

The only thing that had to do with maxxx at all was that I mentioned in passing that vee does not have an iota of maxxs's knowledge of Black music (which is true!)

2717459, RE: What did I do, though?
Posted by rdhull, Sat Jul-07-12 02:45 PM
>Y'all are making it about me defending maxxx, but CLEARLY the
>point of my post (right from the subject line) is that it was
>a reaction to hilariously, tragically ignorant statements by
>vee-lover, like the fact notion that Jodeci were more
>commercially successful than Prince and James Brown, or that
>Stevie Wonder was some kind of cult artist.
>
>The only thing that had to do with maxxx at all was that I
>mentioned in passing that vee does not have an iota of maxxs's
>knowledge of Black music (which is true!)
>
>


I agree that that was some crazed shit vee lover said but you've been quiet in spots you were part of when Max comes up with some equally off the wall shit which negates all the knowledge you (not just you but folks in general) spill. Just as much as you state dismissing vee lover for that basic music knowledge faux pas, you never have done so with max when it would have been deemed relevant. It just makes your opinions here and in some other spots as basic trolling, as well as allowing it just because maax was one of the first people who went at Warren back in the day when yall 2 were going at it. As long as someone is there to work with your side of an opinion. You can deny it all you want but that's what it appears to be..and I know, I know ..you dont give a fuck about what it appears to be to me etc.
2717483, Nah, man...
Posted by AFKAP_of_Darkness, Sat Jul-07-12 04:49 PM
>I agree that that was some crazed shit vee lover said but
>you've been quiet in spots you were part of when Max comes up
>with some equally off the wall shit which negates all the
>knowledge you (not just you but folks in general) spill. Just
>as much as you state dismissing vee lover for that basic music
>knowledge faux pas, you never have done so with max when it
>would have been deemed relevant.

First of all, what vee-lover said was not some "basic faux pas"... That was a lunatic-level proclamation that was issued with 100% self-seriousness and (even worse) self-righteousness.

I know that maxxx is being tongue-in-cheek at least 70% of the time, so I don't have to chase him down and call him on every off-the-wall statement he's made. Plus, I am not the Lesson police; it's not my job to call every single poster on every single crazy post every single time... especially when I occasionally make crazy remarkss myself. I think I have the right to comment upon it strictly when I feel like it, don't you?

It just makes your opinions
>here and in some other spots as basic trolling, as well as
>allowing it just because maax was one of the first people who
>went at Warren back in the day when yall 2 were going at it.

That is bullshit... You're saying that my opinions lack validity because I'm not chasing everybody each time they talk crazy? That makes not a lick of sense, man. If I issue an opinion, you should be able to read it and judge it by the substance in it (or lack thereof)... not by my supposed activity or inactivity in policing other people's comments.

Look at it this way... People up on here talking about "strange bedfellows," lumping me, maxxx and Little X all together as some sort of supergroup because we're supposedly the League of D Haters or something. But look through this post and others like it... Have I ONCE cosigned anything Little X said? It's YOU who is putting us together, not me. And we're not even saying the same things. Only thing we have in common is that we'e not on D'Angelo's dick and we've been vocal about it.

As for the notion that I defend maxxx because he went at WC or whatever... what the fuck do I look like here, Lois Lane? maxxx is my hero because he protected me from mean ol' WC? LOL you have got to be kidding...

>As long as someone is there to work with your side of an
>opinion. You can deny it all you want but that's what it
>appears to be..and I know, I know ..you dont give a fuck about
>what it appears to be to me etc.

Again, that is bullshit. Just show me where I supported any post by Tim the Creator. Actually, if you look at these D posts, I barely ever even cosign maxxx, besides LOLing at his funnier snaps.

Understand something here, my dude... I don't NEED anybody to hold my hand in this Lesson. I don't NEED anybody's support, especially when it comes to my criticism of D'Angelo.

I was probably the first person here to issue a protracted critique of D'Angelo, almost 10 years ago, at a time when talking shit about D was likely to call upon you the wrath of 15 himself. Back when you had a legion of crazed D fans trying to run me off the board altogether.

Did I need anybody to old my hand back then? Hel no! So why would it need it now that a lot of people in the larger world are getting hip to the fact that many of the critiques I leveled back then were accurate, and many of my predictions for D's career came true?

Come ON...

2717730, I see I gotta provide facts and numbers for some of you dudes lol
Posted by vee-lover, Sun Jul-08-12 05:43 PM
Before I list the albums sales of some of the great soul legends as well as contemporary R&B acts, I want to re-state the point I was making...

The Soul/R&B acts of the 70s made the BEST music imo of any era of R&B artists...but, like these so-called neo-soul acts of the 90s and 00s, that didn't necessarily translate into huge album sales, particularly in comparison to many of the contemporary R&B acts that would follow in the 80s. Now, I know some will attribute that to the times those artists lived in because ppl generally weren't buying albums like that back then and while there's some truth to that, I still think it was because of the type of socially conscious music they were making

Stevie Wonder is a MUSIC GOD

but

guess what? for someone as great and naturally gifted as Stevie Wonder was/is, and for someone whose *1st* album came out in 1963, he DIDN'T have his *1st* (multi) platinum album until 'Songs In The Key Of Life' which was released in -->1976<---

That album of course is regarded by most to be his best ever and it sold A LOT OF COPIES (most of the sells have that pushed it to 10 mill came as a result of ppl buying his back catalog which still sells very, very well to this day as new generations are continuing to discover his music)

His next platinum album was 'Hotter Than July' which dropped in 1980

but

other than those two albums, he only has two other albums in his discography that went platinum, 'In squared circle' and 'characters'....and Stevie has over 20 studio albums

Marvin Gaye, the uber soulman has ONLY ONE STUDIO ALBUM TO GO PLATINUM 'Midnight Love'...he does have two compilation albums of his that went platinum but that's it.

Curtis Mayfield recorded a robust 27 studio albums in his life time but not even a 3rd of those albums sold a million copies

Al Green has only 1 platinum album in his discography and also 2 platinum greatest hits album that were certified platinum but that's it for him too.

Donny Hathaway has NONE! He did have a duet album w/Roberta Flack that went platinum but none of his solo material went platinum

Sly Stone I'm not sure how many but I do know "Stand' went platinum but I don't think he has more than 3 albums that even went platinum
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

ok, now having said that, lets look at some of the more well known contemporary R&B acts of the 80s and 90s.

Joedeci while nowhere near as prolific as the soul acts I listed above but they came right out the gate w/their debut selling 3+million copies and their next two cds also went double platinum and platinum

Luther Vandross had *6 double platinum albums/cds and *6 platinum cds. Is there any artist above that sold copies when they were actively recording? (rhetorical question)

GUY another group who shelf life was short lived but their *debut* cd went 3x platinum and their 2nd cd went platinum

Keith Sweat's debut cd sold 3 million copies/2nd cd sold 2 million cds+/the 3rd cd went platinum/ one after that sold 4 million cds and then both cds he recorded w/Gerald Levert/Johnny Gill "LSG" sold over 3 million copies each...(and this is fucking Keith Sweat who's name shouldn't even be mentioned alongside such greats like Marvin and Donny but neither of them ever had albums to sell like he did even though they were sonically superior)


Gerald Levert was another artist whose 1st solo cd went platinum then the 2nd one sold nearly 2 million cds and the 3rd cd of his moved 1 million units...and as I said 'LSG' made two cds that both sold over 3 million copies.

The final point being: R Kelly has his lane and his fans just as D'angelo does. Some like Kells better and vice versa but I see no need in always trying to compare them as artists/musicians because they make totally different kinds of music. R Kelly, like the contemporary R&B acts that preceded him, makes more radio accessible music which means he will always have better cd sales than D'angelo but that shouldn't be a knock against him just as it shouldn't be held against Donny Hathaway who didn't sell nearly the records that an artist like Luther Vandross did, for instance.
2717787, re count Jive turkey recount
Posted by mistermaxxx08, Sun Jul-08-12 11:19 PM
Marvin gaye went triple platinum with "whats going"

lets get it on platinum

i want you gold and almost platinum

Stevie Wonder sold a bunch of records as did Curtis Mayfield,earth,wind and fire,isley brothers, commodores,etc.

Sly and the family stone greatest hits triple platinum and other gold and platinum albums, plus songs.

your argument is weak because those acts were social and also commerical.

balance period.

on one hand they could diss Richard Nixon and on the other hand talk about macking on Pam Grier or Dinnah Carroll and not miss a beat.


like Kellz sings about the Hood and then smoothing out with a chick.

D'angelo gotta find his balance and lane and stop trying to be all things to all peoples.
2718008, are you giving your opinions because I gave you the list of albums
Posted by vee-lover, Mon Jul-09-12 03:39 PM
each of those soul artists had that went platinum...

you said mentioned Marvin having a 3x platinum album but what are the others?



>Marvin gaye went triple platinum with "whats going"
>
>lets get it on platinum
>
>i want you gold and almost platinum
>
>Stevie Wonder sold a bunch of records as did Curtis
>Mayfield,earth,wind and fire,isley brothers, commodores,etc.
>
>Sly and the family stone greatest hits triple platinum and
>other gold and platinum albums, plus songs.
>
>your argument is weak because those acts were social and also
>commerical.
>
>balance period.
>
>on one hand they could diss Richard Nixon and on the other
>hand talk about macking on Pam Grier or Dinnah Carroll and not
>miss a beat.
>
>
>like Kellz sings about the Hood and then smoothing out with a
>chick.
>
>D'angelo gotta find his balance and lane and stop trying to be
>all things to all peoples.
2718235, bottom line those acts sold records
Posted by mistermaxxx08, Mon Jul-09-12 11:34 PM
Barry White sold a ton of records as well.

the funny time game of cross over the divide of R&B charts and Pop Charts hold sway til this day and racial preceptions and importance Yo.
2717243, I knew it I knew it I knew it - right on cue smh
Posted by vee-lover, Fri Jul-06-12 03:00 PM
>Did this cat just say that Marvin Gaye, Sly Stone, Prince,
>Stevie Wonder, James Brown and Al Green were not as big
>commercially as Aaron Hall, Jodeci, Gerald Levert and Peabo
>Bryson?

Prince is by far the most commercially successful artists I listed but he was more pop/funk/rock than r&b soul imo, I listed him under R&B simply because its obvious he's perhaps D's biggest musical influence and w/the exception of Stevie's 'Songs in the key of life' which was easily his biggest selling album, he had maybe 3 platinum albums and that's not a lot considering the total number of albums he has in his discography. The rest of the artists I listed under soul/r&b didn't have many platinum albums in their discography, including Marvin.

Now go compare how many times artists like Luther, Gerald as a solo and group member, Guy, and Jodeci went platinum w/nowhere near as much material...

>>D'angelo makes ART and doesn't seem to mind that his music
>>isn't radio friendly and/or may not go double platinum
>
>He minds. Fuck the dumb... If he could make music that was
>both artistic and wildly popular the way Prince did, you're
>telling me he wouldn't do it?

lmao - of course he wouldn't shun being commercially successful, the point is based on the material he releases, he doesn't seem sonically driven to make music that will sell lots of records or that will get a lot of radio spins. If he wanted to make Tre Songs type fluff R&B in order to sell more units, I have no doubt in my mind he could do it.


>>Your silly and half thought out comments makes it difficult
>to
>>have an honest discussion abt certain artists, specifically
>>D'angelo. Stop posting like you comparing two athletes to
>one
>>another, this ain't a sports board this is a board abt music
>>discussions...or at least I thought it was.
>
>Irony that this dude is calling someone else's post "silly and
>half thought out"... I actually opted to ignore some of the
>other ignorant statements in here because I don't want to turn
>this into that kind of poast.

but I wasn't directing the reply to you and have made it a point to avoid you and Maxx in ANY post for the most part, but Maxx can't seem to say anything of substance and/or praise when it comes to D'angelo and that's the only reason why I felt the need to call him on that dumb ish - as for you, I already had a feeling you would respond nonetheless in his defense...and here you are.
>
>Just enjoy your D'Angelo music and shut the hell up on talking
>about Soul music history, as it is clearly something that you
>don't have even an iota of mistermaxxx's knowledge of.

now, I'm starting to think you must have an e-crush on him. There's nothing you, especially you, or Maxx w/his bad grammar can tell me abt soul music or any music for that matter....mofo be in here proppin up R. Kelly lmao...
>Please.

>EDIT: By the way, did you know that Peabo Bryson is actually
>one of D'Angelo's biggest influences?
>http://articles.latimes.com/1995-08-18/entertainment/ca-36622_1_brown-sugar/2

Ok and? I'm sure R Kelly listened to and *may* have even been influenced by Stevie Wonder and Donny Hathaway

but

his music doesn't sound anything remotely like theirs.
2717248, Fool, you said Jodeci was bigger commercially than Stevie Wonder.
Posted by AFKAP_of_Darkness, Fri Jul-06-12 03:06 PM
Just do yourself and everybody else a favor and NEVER speak again about music. It would save us all a lot of embarrassment.

I didn't even bother reading the post I am replying to now, by the way. I'll probably never read another post by you again now that I know that you think Aaron Hall was bigger commercially than James Brown.

I never respected your opinions on music to begin with... Now I'm thinking we should have built a wall around the Lesson before you came here.

LOL
2717258, You're stupid, really - its obvious you check for my post and I've
Posted by vee-lover, Fri Jul-06-12 03:26 PM
called you out on it several times

as for your foolish comment, I was talking abt the total number of artists being more successful commercially, not every single artist being more successful...but that's aight because I shouldn't expect more of your (in)ability to comprehend


>Just do yourself and everybody else a favor and NEVER speak
>again about music. It would save us all a lot of
>embarrassment.

listen at you lmao - dudes have long called you out on this board and have cited you and Maxx as to why this board doesn't have the type of informed discussions abt music that we should have or once did.
>
>I didn't even bother reading the post I am replying to now, by
>the way. I'll probably never read another post by you again
>now that I know that you think Aaron Hall was bigger
>commercially than James Brown.

you and I know that's not true lmmao - I know you read every post/reply I make...sorry I can't say the same.
>
>I never respected your opinions on music to begin with... Now
>I'm thinking we should have built a wall around the Lesson
>before you came here.

yet you're always replying to me whether in the Lesson or in GD - so ain't no need in frontin. Mofo came in here to defend another poster smh...how lame can you be?!?!?. Maybe 'Dubc' was right: you are Maxx's mad servant huh lol. You post like just started listening to blk american music 8 mos. ago, you co-sign some of the dumbest ish Maxx says. foh...

2717262, Least I know Gerald Levert didn't sell more records than Stevie.
Posted by AFKAP_of_Darkness, Fri Jul-06-12 03:33 PM
*shrug*


(made this reply without even reading yours, but I'm sure it still applies. In fact, I know it's a suitable response to anything you say on ANY subject)
2717271, I don't want any parts of this argument - but... please stop.
Posted by Artful Dodger, Fri Jul-06-12 04:31 PM
Aaron hall more successful than James Brown?

Guy more successful than Stevie Wonder - Stevie only had a few platinum albums? You are kidding right?

Did your Ebony/Jet subscription start in 88 and end in 93?

lol.. I kid vee - just trying to lighten the mood.

I'm not down for the D hate either tho - I feel like it's been really hard to understand. To comment on his return concerts - I understand that was a huge moment and I expect those types of things.

But to argue on and on about the myth of D'angelo or the way folks dissected his two songs on BET... just kind of confused the hell out of me. Yes he's not the D'angelo from 2000... but so what?

Can we get that full review of the show? I love what I'm hearing
and I know youtube aint doing no justice.

Thanks everyone (everyone) - and damn who knew one man could be responsible for countless hate posts and yet somehow still trick everyone into knowing half the album beforehand. It's genius.

Sidenote: If you haven't figured it out by now Maxx is theee funniest motherfucker around. Like get that dude a show ASAP.

I mean is RKelly the King of Coon - why yes, yes he is.
In the past he wore those corny Bobby Brown/Julie from TimeLife headphones - in 2012 he wears white ones. smh. Dear lord.
I dunno. Smh

but I try not to miss one Maxx post ever - dude be having me in tears yo.
2717286, eitjher you didn't read the post or you just don't understand the point
Posted by vee-lover, Fri Jul-06-12 06:14 PM
I was making...

out of all the artists I listed btw contemporary r&b acts vs soul r&b acts, which sold the most records (collectively)

Only the idiot Afcap tried to make it abt Aaron Hall vs Stevie or Gerald Levert vs Donny Hathaway...

again, as a whole, who sold the most records between the two types of r&b acts?

Stevie's recording career spans abt 5 decades and out of all the material he has, go and check how many platinum albums he's had?

how abt Marvin Gaye?

oh and how many platinum albums does the great Sly Stone have?

did Donny Hathaway have a list of platunum and double platinum albums before his untimely death?

now go check and see how many units the vast majority of contemporary r&b acts I listed sold?
2717489, trust we all know how he can get down - but - he's right here.
Posted by Artful Dodger, Sat Jul-07-12 05:35 PM
That comment whether taken in groups or artist to artist..

were not more successful than the list of icons you provided.

everyone you named in the second list sold very well and went platinum time and time again. Not to mention were huge cross over successes...

hell Stevie trumps everyone on that first list alone. That's a fact.

Not to mention there isn't one artist in the first list that saw the success of Marvin's "What's Goin On". In fact they were the biggest artists in the world - hell even Secret Life of Plants did remarkably well (My fav Stevie album actually but that's me being a music nerd lol). That comment doesn't hold up.

Maybe I'm just missing your point?

Everything else however I agree - the D'angelo hate is strange, weird, and nonsensical at this point.

2717494, You not even talked about what they sold in concert tickets
Posted by AFKAP_of_Darkness, Sat Jul-07-12 06:04 PM
What they made in merchandising... licensing... publishing...

There is NO way to slice it where such a statement is acceptable. It's just plain ignorant, no two ways about it.

Not to mention that directly comparing the sales figures of artists in the SoundScan era to those in the pre-SoundScan era is an extremely contentious proposition.
2717505, While he's wrong as fuck, I *think* i can understand what he's getting at...
Posted by Jakob Hellberg, Sat Jul-07-12 06:38 PM
Basically, in the context of *now*, those legendary and platinum-selling (not to mention cross-over friendly in some cases-I have never even heard of Peabo Bryson or Levert outside of this board and some mentions in old issues of Blues&Soul; these are ''har4dcore'' R&B acts. Meanwhile, EVERYONE knows Stevie or Marvin) 70's acts sound more like "alternative'' soul or R&B, more like neo-soul essentially in terms of instrumentation, arrangements, aesthetics etc. (NOT catchiness, LOL!)

Of course, this is not really an excuse since the 70's was a very different time; a time when "Bitches Brew" went gold, prog-rock bands like ELP and Yes could get platinum albums by making side-long suites and where Steely Dan could get radio-play with uber-sophisticated chord-progressions and voicings but still... I can see what Vee is going for; it's just extremely revisionist and a symptom of the modern internet era where everything is easily available and for grabs but where context (something you could at least read about or learn if you didn't experience it) is irrelevant since ''everything'' is just there on the same terms44...
2717508, Oh, I understand all that too.
Posted by AFKAP_of_Darkness, Sat Jul-07-12 06:44 PM
And I very well understood the mindset that informed his post in the first place, as I knew a lot of people like this back in the old neo-soul days... people who just discovered Donny Hathaway, Minnie Riperton and Sly Stone a year and a half ago and feel like listening to that music makes them members of a secret club or cult... who completely lack any kind of historical context, leading them to believe that these musicians were non-commercial cult artists and not the biggest stars of their day who scored big hits on the pop charts.

I remember that shit very well from 1999-2001. Just didn't know there were still people thinking like that in 2012. It's quite jarring.
2717522, Oh shit, he said prince
Posted by Jakob Hellberg, Sat Jul-07-12 07:57 PM
I missed that. Unarguably the third biggest 80's *pop*-icon after MJ and Madonna (maybe he's even nr 2) and he was was less successful than Peabo Bryson or Levert or even fucking Jodeci (acts that noone outside of R&B fans cared about)... It's hilarious and the most revisionist-idiotic thing I ever read on this board...
2717523, hahaha... I could literally feel you having a heart attack dude... lol
Posted by Artful Dodger, Sat Jul-07-12 08:01 PM
basically. I mean this is no way an attempt to beat up on Vee or anyone - but yeah that's pretty nuts. I would even say P was more successful than Madonna at his apex. 25 million is no joke. lol

Peabo Bryson - lol...
2717510, That last line sums everything - well said.
Posted by Artful Dodger, Sat Jul-07-12 06:45 PM
2717577, see also: Motown's RIAA sales certifications.
Posted by SoWhat, Sun Jul-08-12 01:26 AM
i've heard the label didn't submit sales figures to the RIAA to get platinum and gold plaques for many/any of its releases in the 60s and 70s.

if he's comparing the platinum/gold discs among Motown acts w/those held by those other acts it may be possible to get confused.

but i dunno about this either b/c Motown did seek certification for SITKOL and it's been certified diamond. how many acts on the other list (Guy 'nem) have a diamond plaque?
2717520, Right, right - that's total truth there. I mean one name from list 2
Posted by Artful Dodger, Sat Jul-07-12 07:27 PM
is enough money to shut down list one. lol. I'm kidding.. but not really.
2717529, right, right. Exactly. Even Stevie's 60s catalogue trumps that list.
Posted by Artful Dodger, Sat Jul-07-12 08:39 PM
So we don't even want to talk publishing and licensing. hahaha..

and concerts? Man we could take arguably Stevie's last stand - Hotter than July - the tour and it trumps everyone on that list. hahaha..

I still think Vee was trying to point out something else - sometimes online posting can get lost in translation.

2717524, What does the total amount of albums Stevie has have to do with anything?
Posted by Jakob Hellberg, Sat Jul-07-12 08:03 PM
His pre 70's Motown albums aren't highly rated at all (unfairly so IMO). If Stevie's career started with "Music of my mind" and he would have died after "Songs...", he would STILL have been bigger than everyone in your list. You fucked up-just own up to it...
2717701, goddamn, i even think you're a fucking idiot when we agree.
Posted by ninjitsu, Sun Jul-08-12 03:20 PM
2717064, look how long R. Kelly been in the game and he still lip syncing
Posted by Warren Coolidge, Fri Jul-06-12 12:20 AM
and using pre-recorded vocal tracks during his concert...

all that time and still ain't bringing it real and all the way live on stage...
2717068, lets See R.Kelly is Lebron James to D'angelo's harold Minor
Posted by mistermaxxx08, Fri Jul-06-12 12:26 AM
you know who got the Jewelry, stats, longevity and dominance period.

you know who is a myth and is delusional as David Copperfield in the mind about his so called place in music.

R.kelly throws down live, if Kellz wants to rock it with a band, don't you know he would have D'angelo doing the "jungle Ever" Gator dance to Kellz yelling Mama there goes that Man with the Mask on, Hands down and Mask on.
2717071, you corny maxx..... and you shook...
Posted by Warren Coolidge, Fri Jul-06-12 12:31 AM
D' brings that funk on stage... Kells is doing poppy sing-a-longs with track over dubs..


2717078, D'mumblo is corny yo and a myth of your imagination
Posted by mistermaxxx08, Fri Jul-06-12 01:03 AM
turkey got a corny set list and he doesn't have a clue about being a soul man let alone what he is suppose to be doing.

this turkey is like a Used car salesman without the keys to open the car and get it started.

this was cute about 10 years ago, however this turkey is stuck in park and can't start the engine and his show might cool for a living in a time warp, however it ain't gonna fly.

oh Kellz has done played live a plenty of times and he wipes the floor on D'angelo.

Kellz packed places in Africa Yo, D'angelo would be lucky to pack a Ben and jerry's
2717181, one thing D is not all that funky though
Posted by Tim The Creator, Fri Jul-06-12 11:49 AM
>D' brings that funk on stage... Kells is doing poppy
>sing-a-longs with track over dubs..
>
>
>
2717188, you don't know what's funky and what isn't....lolol.
Posted by Warren Coolidge, Fri Jul-06-12 12:04 PM
2717191, lol, funk is not dangelo strong suit
Posted by Tim The Creator, Fri Jul-06-12 12:24 PM
I understand you just got back from concert and all, and you feeling good, got a little D'fender patch on your sleeve, but funk is not dudes strong suit, that is a no brainer


2717192, dude....you're a prince fanatic who is confused into thinking
Posted by Warren Coolidge, Fri Jul-06-12 12:30 PM
that makes you know sumthin about music...

you became a Prince fan probably really late into Prince's career...

you're real limited dude...you honestly should avoid these types of conversations because you come across really clueless..
2717201, like I said funk is not d'angelo strung suit
Posted by Tim The Creator, Fri Jul-06-12 01:20 PM
go cry in the corner

like old nigga only win on a message board about music about other old ass niggas playing old ass funk songs and homage tracks

funk aint D'angelo strong suit
even Elmo can see that shit

u dont need no knowitallnigga bro science degree





>that makes you know sumthin about music...
>
>you became a Prince fan probably really late into Prince's
>career...
>
>you're real limited dude...you honestly should avoid these
>types of conversations because you come across really
>clueless..
2717207, dude...you're a Prince groupie talking about "old ass niggas"
Posted by Warren Coolidge, Fri Jul-06-12 01:55 PM
who keeps changing his log in because people are already hip to your tired uninformed posts..

none of your log-ins knows shit Little X......lolol.
2717226, D'Angelo hate makes for strange bed fellows...
Posted by Warren Coolidge, Fri Jul-06-12 02:26 PM
I'm cool with Maxx and all be he comes out of looney left field sometimes....and little X is just a loon...

but here you are running with them all in the name of D'Hate...

very funny in a disturbing type of way..

You cool with how this all makes you look??? honestly.
2717240, RE: D'Angelo hate makes for strange bed fellows...
Posted by Vhien, Fri Jul-06-12 02:57 PM
It's kinda hard to reconcile with the D' hate after seeing that show though. Like, Sugah Daddy jams HARD live and youtube doesn't do anything much justice. And R. Kelly and D' occupy completely different vibes and all that. If nothing else, someone gotta admire D' for trying really really hard with trying to have a band, a legit band. .
2717075, what about the fact Kelly lip syncs?
Posted by AlBundy, Fri Jul-06-12 12:57 AM
and has no real instrumental chops?

-------------------------
“The other dude after me didn’t help my case. It was just like…crazy nigga factory going on.”
Dre makes no apologies for his own eccentricities. “I was young, and searching, trying to find myself,” he says. “Never did.”-- Andre B
2717079, Kellz can sing/sang live and can throw down on the Piano
Posted by mistermaxxx08, Fri Jul-06-12 01:06 AM
Kellz can play and sing Opera,Gospel, Pop, R&B and he can throw down.

Kellz is far more versatile than D'angelo would ever dream of being.

Kellz left him in the dust a long time except D Stans are afraid of acknowledging that.

there ain't nothing D'angelo can do as well as R.Kelly.

musically he ain't seeing the Kang.
2717082, why does he lip sync to backing tracks then?
Posted by AlBundy, Fri Jul-06-12 01:34 AM
answer the question, brother

-------------------------
“The other dude after me didn’t help my case. It was just like…crazy nigga factory going on.”
Dre makes no apologies for his own eccentricities. “I was young, and searching, trying to find myself,” he says. “Never did.”-- Andre B
2717097, everybody does
Posted by mistermaxxx08, Fri Jul-06-12 02:44 AM
you act like he is on a island by himself doing that?

fyi i have caught him singing and playing live plenty of times
2717190, no they don't... he's not the only one who is doing it
Posted by Warren Coolidge, Fri Jul-06-12 12:23 PM
but he does it to a degree that to me you honestly can't rank him over artists who bring it all the way live..

kells plays it on the cheap live.
2717579, if Kellz wasn't badd he still wouldn't be talked about
Posted by mistermaxxx08, Sun Jul-08-12 02:11 AM
or hitting now I know that. and believe me he got enough folks who don't support him,however the fact the brother knows music means he sticks around and does his thing.

don't get it twisted He is up way up there with the all time greats IMO.
2717182, why is D'angelo still playing Syracuse 85 dress-up?
Posted by Tim The Creator, Fri Jul-06-12 11:53 AM
>answer the question, brother
>
>-------------------------
>“The other dude after me didn’t help my case. It was just
>like…crazy nigga factory going on.”
>Dre makes no apologies for his own eccentricities. “I was
>young, and searching, trying to find myself,” he says. “Never
>did.”-- Andre B
2717312, no idea what that means
Posted by AlBundy, Fri Jul-06-12 09:32 PM
but arent you little X?

-------------------------
“The other dude after me didn’t help my case. It was just like…crazy nigga factory going on.”
Dre makes no apologies for his own eccentricities. “I was young, and searching, trying to find myself,” he says. “Never did.”-- Andre B
2717492, He meant Prince - Purple Rain tour - Syracuse 1985
Posted by Artful Dodger, Sat Jul-07-12 05:56 PM
which when you think about it - is pretty clever and funny. lol.

Ya'll need to ease up on D man.

Frank Ocean live is like looking at a cardboard cut out
teaching you Economics 101. Tour sponsored by the IRS.

The Weeknd is is a flat/sharp note hitting mufucaka who looks like the audience is holding him captive and he doesn't know how it all happened.

- at least D'angelo gets down.
2717788, i know what you mean except d'angelo is stuck in 1986
Posted by mistermaxxx08, Sun Jul-08-12 11:20 PM
but i agree, turkey way too young to be a novelty relic,tribute act
2717083, RE: Kellz can sing/sang live and can throw down on the Piano
Posted by Vhien, Fri Jul-06-12 01:36 AM
Seeing D' live last night though, it's hard not to be reinvigorated as a fan though. He legitimately...brought it. And he stands out quite a bit musically, as he's kinda doing his own esoteric thing, for better or worse.
2717093, RE: D'Angelo Live at the House of Blues 7/4/2012
Posted by mistadobalina, Fri Jul-06-12 02:07 AM
Great effing show. The band is definitely tighter and tracks are far more developed - you can hear the difference in the new material especially. The Charade and Another Life (which feels like it could/should be a huge song) were unbelievable. The YouTube clips really don't do 'em justice.

I was really struck by how comfortable D looked w/the guitar. A huge leap forward from the European clips. He looked like he knew how to use it as part of his stage persona, like he's been playing it on stage for years.

Even the crowd was pretty decent (by LA standards), and brought some good energy. There seemed to be a good buzz in the air when the show let out, and only a handful of folks griping about not playing Untitled.

(BTW when did Jesse turn into Mr. Glass?)
2717095, RE: D'Angelo Live at the House of Blues 7/4/2012
Posted by Vhien, Fri Jul-06-12 02:28 AM
The current line-up if I ain't mistaken

The Vanguard:
D'Angelo - Lead Vocals/Guitar/Keys
Jesse Johnson - Lead Guitar
Isaiah Sharkey - Rhythm Guitar
Pino Palladino - Bass
Chris "Daddy" Dave - Drums
Cleo "Pookie" Sample - Keys
Ray Angry - Keys
Kendra Foster - Background Vocals
Jermaine Holmes - Background Vocals/ Percussion
Robert Lumzy - Background Vocals
Jack E. King - Background Vocals
2717327, look bump all that....
Posted by slimpockets, Fri Jul-06-12 11:03 PM
WHO HAS THE RECORDING??!???!???! DROP THAT SHIT!!!!
2717330, reports are that D rippin the Essence stage up right now..
Posted by Warren Coolidge, Fri Jul-06-12 11:40 PM
2717354, RE: reports are that D rippin the Essence stage up right now..
Posted by Skit08, Sat Jul-07-12 03:47 AM
He did....but honestly being that it was a mostly female audience whose there to see a ripped up D from the Voodoo/Untitled era I don't think D connected with the audience in the way that I would've liked.It was like the BET performance really.

To appreciate D'Angelo and his performance set entirely you have to be a die hard music fan who appreciates when an artist like D lets the drummer or guitar player do his thing otherwise you are looking at his set like 0_o.I know I heard some people said that the Essence Crowd might've been a tricky one.

He reluctantly did Untitled it seemed. He did it sitting at his piano. I see it wasn't included in his L.A. set list so me thinks someone told him that it was essential he did the song on top of the new material with this audience. I got kinda nervous for him as the women started to scream when the song started, but he managed to stand up and thank the audience and went back to the piano lol.


Seemed like the celebs and industry folks in attendance were more into it than anyone else lol. Just my observation.Every single one of them were standing up. I thought that was interesting.


And THEN you had D perform after Trey Songz?!!? I thought that was a mistake. Trey sucks live, but I would want the audience (made up of horny women) to clean their palate out before another R&B hearthrob who wants to rock out and not be looked at as a male stripper on stage lol.
2717419, RE: reports are that D rippin the Essence stage up right now..
Posted by Skit08, Sat Jul-07-12 12:40 PM
Reviews from Essence aren't good at all. "D'Angelo disappoints" It did lack.

These new artists (including him) need to learn that you have to come out with a BANG at the start of your introduction.His stage presence lacks to me. His band is good, but they need to polish themselves up more if they want to play to stadium like venues.

When I re-examine the performance I don't think he was ready for a crowd like Essence. Not this soon.
2717420, yeah saw that.... trey songz ripped it and D' dissapointed...lolol.
Posted by Warren Coolidge, Sat Jul-07-12 12:44 PM
2717422, You seem to imply that that's not possible.
Posted by AFKAP_of_Darkness, Sat Jul-07-12 12:59 PM
I mean, I already know what you're going to say about "artists who bring it real and raw" and "all the way live on stage" but the fact is that just because you are playing with a live band does not automatically make your performance good.

Say what you will about Trey Songz, but he ENTERTAINS. He engages the audience and gives them their money's worth. He doesn't mumble to himself like he's singing in his bathroom.
2717424, But damn, I just went and read that review...
Posted by AFKAP_of_Darkness, Sat Jul-07-12 01:09 PM
They actually described him as "former R&B star D'Angelo"


That's cold, man... Not sure that was necessary.
2717426, RE: You seem to imply that that's not possible.
Posted by Skit08, Sat Jul-07-12 01:16 PM
Are you KIDDING ME about Trey Songz?!!?!? He absolutely SUCKS live.That was my first time seeing him, but other folks feel the same way having seen him on other occasions.

And if you're gonna go by crowd participation of mostly horny black women, he could literally do ANYTHING on the stage and they will scream and holler.
2717430, The live clips I've seen of him, he seemed to put on a good show
Posted by AFKAP_of_Darkness, Sat Jul-07-12 01:24 PM
But hey... It's definitely not something I'm going to pick up a sword to defend; I'm not a fan of him and I think he sucks on a number of levels.

Still, it's entertaining to me the way some D fans appear convinced that it is impossible for D'Angelo to put on a mediocre or poor set... It's always the fault of the audience, you know? They're not smart enough, cultured enough to "get" his genius. Or something.

Anyway, here's what the review had to say about D's set:

"Where ya been?:

Sandwiched between two forces of nature - Trey Songz and closing headliner Charlie Wilson - was something of a natural disaster: one-time neo-soul star D'Angelo, making his first major concert appearance in a dozen years. The crowd that had been played so masterfully by Songz largely turned stony when D'Angelo and his eight-piece band launched into their dense stew of funk, soul and R&B. Clad in a black leather vest and sporting bulging biceps, the 38-year-old Virginia-native tried gamely to evoke the spirits of James Brown and Prince with his occasional choreography, wicked falsetto runs, screams and spiky musical arrangements. But the material was lacking as the set list included several new songs that were unfamiliar to most of the audience and a number of tunes from his '90s heyday that had been forgotten, such as Chicken Grease and Playa Playa. The crowd finally responded to 2000 hit Untitled (How Does It Feel) but was left disappointed by the omission of Brown Sugar."
2717650, Trey Songz is awful....especially live....
Posted by Warren Coolidge, Sun Jul-08-12 11:40 AM
dude's voice is super thin and the extras he puts on it is.....really almost disturbing...

He has tons of fans though and I'm sure they enjoy his show....nothing against them but I don't see any real musical value..in terms of what I look for in a live artist to Trey Songz...
2717425, RE: yeah saw that.... trey songz ripped it and D' dissapointed...lolol.
Posted by Skit08, Sat Jul-07-12 01:14 PM
That USA Today "review" based his or her thoughts solely on crowd participation. Whatever. Trey Songz SUCKED.
2717431, ...and crowd participation doesn't count for anything?
Posted by AFKAP_of_Darkness, Sat Jul-07-12 01:28 PM
A good performer should be able to engage the audience to some degree, even when the material is not all that familiar... Wouldn't you concur?

You yourself said that with an audience of horny Black women, that you could do ANYTHING and they would scream. Apparently, D didn't even meet that low threshold. Meanwhile, Uncle Charlie, damn near 60 years old, rocked the place.... so you know it's not just about taking off your shirt to reveal rock-hard abs.
2717434, RE: ...and crowd participation doesn't count for anything?
Posted by Skit08, Sat Jul-07-12 01:34 PM
It does.....but to a certain extent. For a cat like Trey he relies on other theatrics on stage (instead of charisma and raw energy), like taking his shirt off. Also he's one of the "it" R&B boys right now, so the crowd of late-teens, early 20-somethings will go crazy whatever he does on stage.


And yes, Charlie turned them all out, but please don't get skewed by that USA Today review.Trey is NOT a good live performer, not in the least bit.
2717438, Does this describe the Essence crowd, though?
Posted by AFKAP_of_Darkness, Sat Jul-07-12 01:40 PM
>so the crowd of late-teens, early
>20-somethings will go crazy whatever he does on stage.

Not asking rhetorically or anything, I really want to know... Because it's been a while since I kept up with Essencefest, but last I checked it was ladies in their late 20s-early 40s.
2717441, RE: Does this describe the Essence crowd, though?
Posted by Skit08, Sat Jul-07-12 01:43 PM
Not anymore...it ranges now. With someone like Trey Songz you will have more of a younger female set in attendance.
2717497, didn't D'angelo do the same thing for Voodoo?
Posted by Tim The Creator, Sat Jul-07-12 06:09 PM
>It does.....but to a certain extent. For a cat like Trey he
>relies on other theatrics on stage (instead of charisma and
>raw energy), like taking his shirt off. Also he's one of the
>"it" R&B boys right now, so the crowd of late-teens, early
>20-somethings will go crazy whatever he does on stage.
>
>
>And yes, Charlie turned them all out, but please don't get
>skewed by that USA Today review.Trey is NOT a good live
>performer, not in the least bit.
2717427, LOL @ Roland Martin's critique.....
Posted by revolution75, Sat Jul-07-12 01:16 PM
Hit up his facebook page for the response to these posts. Maaaaaaaaaan.......LOL!!

Roland Martin
11 hours ago via mobie
I hope D'Angelo is watching @imcharliewilson's #essencefest set. THIS is how u set the joint off! Gotta have more than 3 hits, baby!

Roland Martin
11 hours ago via mobile
My point is simple: when you step on the main stage, you better bring it! Your history/potential don't matter. It's what you do TONIGHT!

Roland Martin
11 hours ago via mobile
Let me help y'all D'Angelo lovers out. In the history of concerts, folks always judge one set compared to the next. So stop trippin!

Roland Martin
11 hours ago via mobile
When they had the Motown Revue, all of the acts tried to outdo each other. The challenge was about raising the stakes!


Roland Martin
11 hours ago via mobile
In Sam Cooke's biography, even the gospel acts measured their sets by who destroyed the room. Stop acting brand new!

Roland Martin
14 hours ago via mobile
He's trying. But D'Angelo ain't setting the Mercedes Benz SuperDome on fire. He need to sing some covers of hits...quick! #essencefest
2717429, RE: LOL @ Roland Martin's critique.....
Posted by Skit08, Sat Jul-07-12 01:22 PM
I can't stand Roland, but he's right, word for word. I'm talking specifically about the Essence "crowd" and if that's who they/him still want him to market to.
2717433, right!!!
Posted by revolution75, Sat Jul-07-12 01:34 PM
You're supposed to KILL IT in front of THAT audience!!!
Especially following Trey Songz...Come on SOn
The YODA's wouldn't allow that shit!!!
Prince following a Trey Songz would have made sure no one knew his name after he left the stage.

........and no Brown Sugar is baffling me...dude you don't have a Prince like catalog to omit your ace in the hole especially with that arrangement.

SMH..
Man I feel like Billy Sparks typing this shit...lol
2717437, RE: right!!!
Posted by Skit08, Sat Jul-07-12 01:39 PM
Yeah, not having Brown Sugar was baffling. Untitled was performed a bit half-assed. I suspect that someone literally had to force him to put it on the setlist.
2717432, I cannot say he is not talking realness.
Posted by AFKAP_of_Darkness, Sat Jul-07-12 01:33 PM
I kinda cringe to read such reviews, though... I mean, I'm just some dickbag having fun on a message board taking down D and ticking off his fans. But the truth is that I want that dude to win... I love a good redemption story like that. But he has got to get serious about the game.
2717435, fire everyone and get Maxwell's '09 comeback crew
Posted by revolution75, Sat Jul-07-12 01:36 PM
He did it RIGHT!!
2717439, Maxwell did do it right.
Posted by AFKAP_of_Darkness, Sat Jul-07-12 01:43 PM
and that becomes even more clear in retrospect.
2717822, RE: Maxwell did do it right.
Posted by Coco la chapelle, Mon Jul-09-12 04:09 AM
He sold a bunch of albums but I saw him live and he was just alright, I enjoyed D'angelo's show in Paris more. When I saw Maxwell, his voice was good but kind of weak and he kept trying to make the audience sing part they were waiting for him to sing ... The atmosphere was definitely better at D's show.

2717571, That's actually a really great point
Posted by Luke Cage, Sun Jul-08-12 12:38 AM
and a very fair comparison rather than trying to compare D to the legends of the past comparing him to one of his contemporaries who also left the scene for a significant amount of time is very appropriate. Back in the mid to late 90's I was a much bigger fan of D'angelo's music over Maxwell's. I dug Maxwell but nowhere near the level that I liked D'angelo's music. Maxwell with his 2009 comeback actually made me go back and revisit his earlier catalog and appreciate it even more. He put on a great live show and seemed to truly be having fun on stage and happy to be back in the public's eye. If I had to compare the 2 comebacks to this point Maxwell is killing D. He released a really great album and put on a great, entertaining live show that left people buzzing about it for weeks.
2717595, the diff between maxwell and dangelo
Posted by GumDrops, Sun Jul-08-12 05:18 AM
is that maxwell isnt as precious. and hes always flirted more with contemp R&B than dangelo, so you know he doesnt mind 'lowering' himself to sound a bit current.

dangelo is more uncompromising so hes going to do (silly? or daring?) things like leave out his first big hit, which would have gone down well with a swarm of adult essence readers who are going to need to be warmed up to a guy they havent seen in ten years, no matter how much they loved untitled.

but he isnt that kind of guy whos going to come out and try and crowd please, or 'kill' a crowd, ESPECIALLY not when in the middle of two other artists, one a legend (which dangelo isnt), the other riding a big hit right now (which dangelo def doesnt have). in case anyone whos been following him on this board hasnt realised, dangelo isnt exactly great at competition or working under pressure lol. hes obv retreated more into himself over the past decade which is why though i like the sound of the new songs, theres something a bit 'dug up from the past' about them, its like nothings changed and were still in 2000 - which is cool in a way, hes not being trendy, and its just good to hear him again, but you sort of expect something a bit more. more than anything, he should have come out with a new look at least.

i would have advised a diff set for this crowd - older artists knew how to switch it up depending on the venue/audience - and if he could do a diff set for bonaroo, youd think he and his crew would know how to play to an essence audience (even if hes said a million times about his reservations about playing to all-women crowds).

imo he really needs to stop with this prince-style teasing piano medley stuff though. he hasnt earned that yet, sorry dangelo fans.
2717601, *likes*
Posted by AFKAP_of_Darkness, Sun Jul-08-12 06:21 AM
2717602, I'm glad someone else is pointing out the piano part
Posted by revolution75, Sun Jul-08-12 06:44 AM
Watching the Essence festival 'Untitled'was cringe
I thought he was about to throw the chair or pull out the old "is your man fine" routine

Instead of working on his black god guitar skills because those prince googly eyes and come ons only works for prince
He should have worked on his stage presence
Like I would have been impressed if Quest said he caught him spinning around and grabbing the mike like Joe Tex...LOL
2717609, the yoda stuff is pretty yawn at this point
Posted by GumDrops, Sun Jul-08-12 08:05 AM
if they still have to talk about his idols SIXTEEN YEARS on, at least come up with some new yodas. tell me youve extended the yoda pantheon! even if its just little richard or bo diddley or someone (which would fit with all the new black guitar god hype)
2717628, the stepping away from the piano thing seems really forced.
Posted by El_essence, Sun Jul-08-12 10:15 AM
.
2717632, yeah im not sure ive ever really bought him as a showman
Posted by GumDrops, Sun Jul-08-12 10:39 AM
he still seems more of a sit behind the piano kind of guy

i think the motivation to try and be a jb/prince kinda guy was that he felt he *had* to so he could claim that heritage, more than cos he wanted to

2718136, EXACTLY. he needs to sit his ass down and play pi-ana.
Posted by MISTA MONOTONE, Mon Jul-09-12 09:32 PM
>he still seems more of a sit behind the piano kind of guy
>
>i think the motivation to try and be a jb/prince kinda guy was
>that he felt he *had* to so he could claim that heritage, more
>than cos he wanted to
>

he looks forced and unnatural everywhere else on the stage. and that's okay. not everybody is a showman. play to your strengths. sit yo ass down, play the piano and sing your fucking face off.

edit: AND if you got Jesse Johnson playing guitar, the fuck you need to touch that shit for? have a seat, fam.
2718291, if its ok for ray charles and stevie to sit down
Posted by GumDrops, Tue Jul-10-12 03:10 AM
than dangelo (ok so hes not blind) should be able to just sit down and play too - i cant think of many modern R&B examples but chris martin plays piano and gets animated so im sure dangelo could

he can stand and play guitar if he wants (even if hes about as good as dre3000 and madonna, lets be honest lol)

but im not convinced about his wannabe JB routine


2717444, NYT Review of the Essence Show (Swipe)
Posted by revolution75, Sat Jul-07-12 02:03 PM
LOL and ROTFL @ When he started playing “Chicken Grease,” he asked the crowd to yell the name of the song. “It’s been 12 years,” I heard behind me. “Why would we remember?”


At Essence Music Festival, a Mercurial D’Angelo
By BEN RATLIFF

Matthew Hinton/The Times-Picayune, via Associated Press
D’Angelo performed at the Essence Music Festival in New Orleans on Friday night.
NEW ORLEANS — The R&B singer D’Angelo came back from 12 years of silence with a run of concerts in Europe earlier this year. Those performances, easily findable online, are as layered and complicated as they were in 2000, full of temporary full-group vamps that establish themselves and disappear, colored through with his chattering and hollering vocals. They prove, within minutes or seconds, that his talent hasn’t gone away. But his re-entry before American audiences may be trickier.

That’s the anecdotal evidence, anyway, from the middle of the crowd on Friday night here at the Essence Music Festival, which runs through the weekend in the Mercedez-Benz Superdome. Friday was not D’Angelo’s first American comeback: he appeared in a surprise all-covers jam session at the Bonnaroo festival on June 10, performed before a sympathetic audience on July 1 on the televised BET Awards show, and played a last-minute booking at the House of Blues in Los Angeles on July 4. But it was his first comeback concert promoted extensively in advance.

By and large, the crowd in New Orleans didn’t seem to want him to be the mercurial D’Angelo of “Voodoo,” the album just before the disappearance. They wanted the more concise D’Angelo from the mid-’90s: the bringer of funk satisfaction who wrote songs with singalong phrases like “Brown Sugar.” But he was mercurial anyway, thrillingly so.


He played for about an hour and 15 minutes, most of it unbroken; if you’ve heard audio or watched video of those European concerts from January and February, you’d have recognized Friday’s show as pulled from the same intense heap of songs, riffs, and teases. He appeared in all black — including leather vest, fedora, and motorcycle boots — singing the phrase “call on me,” and extended it with the line “in a minute-oh,” which his backup singers took over and repeated; then he picked up his guitar and the band trickled into the mysterious mid-tempo funk of “Playa Playa,” from “Voodoo.”

That fed into the Roberta Flack song “Feel Like Makin’ Love”; a new song which his set lists are calling “Ain’t That Easy”; “Devil’s Pie” and “Chicken Grease,” from “Voodoo”; “Really Love,” another new one, drowsy, hazy, and minimal, sung in falsetto all the way through. (When he started playing “Chicken Grease,” he asked the crowd to yell the name of the song. “It’s been 12 years,” I heard behind me. “Why would we remember?”) Next: a jazz guitar solo, by one of his two lead guitarists, Isaiah Sharkey. The audience shifted, squinted, waited to be impressed.

Thirty-five minutes so far, still no break, and hardly a word to the fans. This was really good D’Angelo, and also very different from any other set that had been heard all night — acts from the non-hip-hop American black-music spectrum, aimed primarily toward grown females. (The festival, running continuously since 1995, has been sponsored by Essence Magazine, and plays to the publication’s demographic.) Trey Songz, Keyshia Cole, SWV, Marsha Ambrosius — they’d delivered songs and a concise persona. D’Angelo was more interested in vamps, evasions, elaborations, sketches, extensions. At the core, he’s an improviser.

After a 15-minute version of another mid-’90s song, with drum and guitar solos, the band walked off without a word. “He better do ‘Brown Sugar,’” I heard a few ladies say around the 50-minute mark. Well, would he? D’Angelo returned, sat down alone at the electric piano, and played a few bars of “Untitled (How Does It Feel),” another hit — then got up and smiled mischievously, relishing the tension it provoked. (He did play it through, but it wasn’t a showstopper.) Then another old one, “Lady,” and a new one, “Sugah Daddy,” stretched out long, with multiple false endings and James Brownisms — “put your hands together/come on, stomp your feet-tah.” And he was done. No “Brown Sugar.
2717487, again funk is not D'angelo's strong suit
Posted by Tim The Creator, Sat Jul-07-12 05:23 PM



>LOL and ROTFL @ When he started playing “Chicken Grease,” he
>asked the crowd to yell the name of the song. “It’s been 12
>years,” I heard behind me. “Why would we remember?”
>
>
>At Essence Music Festival, a Mercurial D’Angelo
>By BEN RATLIFF
>
>Matthew Hinton/The Times-Picayune, via Associated Press
>D’Angelo performed at the Essence Music Festival in New
>Orleans on Friday night.
>NEW ORLEANS — The R&B singer D’Angelo came back from 12 years
>of silence with a run of concerts in Europe earlier this year.
>Those performances, easily findable online, are as layered and
>complicated as they were in 2000, full of temporary full-group
>vamps that establish themselves and disappear, colored through
>with his chattering and hollering vocals. They prove, within
>minutes or seconds, that his talent hasn’t gone away. But his
>re-entry before American audiences may be trickier.
>
>That’s the anecdotal evidence, anyway, from the middle of the
>crowd on Friday night here at the Essence Music Festival,
>which runs through the weekend in the Mercedez-Benz Superdome.
>Friday was not D’Angelo’s first American comeback: he appeared
>in a surprise all-covers jam session at the Bonnaroo festival
>on June 10, performed before a sympathetic audience on July 1
>on the televised BET Awards show, and played a last-minute
>booking at the House of Blues in Los Angeles on July 4. But it
>was his first comeback concert promoted extensively in
>advance.
>
>By and large, the crowd in New Orleans didn’t seem to want him
>to be the mercurial D’Angelo of “Voodoo,” the album just
>before the disappearance. They wanted the more concise
>D’Angelo from the mid-’90s: the bringer of funk satisfaction
>who wrote songs with singalong phrases like “Brown Sugar.” But
>he was mercurial anyway, thrillingly so.
>
>
>He played for about an hour and 15 minutes, most of it
>unbroken; if you’ve heard audio or watched video of those
>European concerts from January and February, you’d have
>recognized Friday’s show as pulled from the same intense heap
>of songs, riffs, and teases. He appeared in all black —
>including leather vest, fedora, and motorcycle boots — singing
>the phrase “call on me,” and extended it with the line “in a
>minute-oh,” which his backup singers took over and repeated;
>then he picked up his guitar and the band trickled into the
>mysterious mid-tempo funk of “Playa Playa,” from “Voodoo.”
>
>That fed into the Roberta Flack song “Feel Like Makin’ Love”;
>a new song which his set lists are calling “Ain’t That Easy”;
>“Devil’s Pie” and “Chicken Grease,” from “Voodoo”; “Really
>Love,” another new one, drowsy, hazy, and minimal, sung in
>falsetto all the way through. (When he started playing
>“Chicken Grease,” he asked the crowd to yell the name of the
>song. “It’s been 12 years,” I heard behind me. “Why would we
>remember?”) Next: a jazz guitar solo, by one of his two lead
>guitarists, Isaiah Sharkey. The audience shifted, squinted,
>waited to be impressed.
>
>Thirty-five minutes so far, still no break, and hardly a word
>to the fans. This was really good D’Angelo, and also very
>different from any other set that had been heard all night —
>acts from the non-hip-hop American black-music spectrum, aimed
>primarily toward grown females. (The festival, running
>continuously since 1995, has been sponsored by Essence
>Magazine, and plays to the publication’s demographic.) Trey
>Songz, Keyshia Cole, SWV, Marsha Ambrosius — they’d delivered
>songs and a concise persona. D’Angelo was more interested in
>vamps, evasions, elaborations, sketches, extensions. At the
>core, he’s an improviser.
>
>After a 15-minute version of another mid-’90s song, with drum
>and guitar solos, the band walked off without a word. “He
>better do ‘Brown Sugar,’” I heard a few ladies say around the
>50-minute mark. Well, would he? D’Angelo returned, sat down
>alone at the electric piano, and played a few bars of
>“Untitled (How Does It Feel),” another hit — then got up and
>smiled mischievously, relishing the tension it provoked. (He
>did play it through, but it wasn’t a showstopper.) Then
>another old one, “Lady,” and a new one, “Sugah Daddy,”
>stretched out long, with multiple false endings and James
>Brownisms — “put your hands together/come on, stomp your
>feet-tah.” And he was done. No “Brown Sugar.
2717368, I have the feeling this album is going to be really good
Posted by Coco la chapelle, Sat Jul-07-12 06:38 AM
2717461, RE: I have the feeling this album is going to be really good
Posted by Jrod Indigo, Sat Jul-07-12 02:52 PM
It Will be. That's why a lot of the heads stuck on the past are gonna hate. This album is not for them. It's for real music lovers. Anyone who loves Fishbone, P Funk, and many other forms of non traditional black music will get stoked on his new thing.
2717473, RE: I have the feeling this album is going to be really good
Posted by Vhien, Sat Jul-07-12 03:56 PM
D' and his band doing Donuts (intro): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPpNTi07nQ8
2717507, RE: I have the feeling this album is going to be really good
Posted by G_The_SP, Sat Jul-07-12 06:44 PM
Man when they jumped into this I was thrown into a state of shock... I was frozen. That was a hell of a show.
2717512, Man this show was HOT - thanks for
Posted by Artful Dodger, Sat Jul-07-12 06:50 PM
That review of the Essence Festival seems like someone who was rooting for him to fail - i could be wrong but if Essence was anything like LA man... then how on earth could Trey Songs beat this out? I also noticed how this show was glossed over as well as the enthusiasm over Bonaroo.

Honestly from all the shows I have seen on youtube (outside of the BET performance) - he's been doing his thing.

Thank you for posting Donuts - this shit is great. He destroyed this.
2717516, Two reviews have been posted in here, though
Posted by AFKAP_of_Darkness, Sat Jul-07-12 06:55 PM
and the second one (NY Times) was clearly written by someone who is a BIG D'Angelo fan... and as much as he sort of disses the audience for not getting the complexity of D's new music, he also makes it pretty clear that D offered a pretty lackluster, unengaging performance, not addressing the audience or trying to draw them in any way.
2717519, Wow I didn't read the second - well maybe it wasn't a good fit
Posted by Artful Dodger, Sat Jul-07-12 07:09 PM
I mean I for one clearly thought it was a good fit - although I was unaware of the lineup. Truth? Trey Songs is on fire and has been for the last five years maybe? Or it's simmering down but still on a downward helix(not sure I don't care about modern R&b haha like at all I'm sure you can feel that) and Mr. Wilson is .. .well Mr. Wilson.

D of course is dealing with two fairly current & successful artists despite Mr Wilson of course having many years behind him. I honestly would have thought D'angelo would have been top billing.

So two reviews on a bad night - okay. What about LA tho? LA sounds great, most of what I heard was positive if not really good. Bonnaroo was great as well - at least, received very well. The one reviewer only mentioned BET and Essence and it's crowd response. That doesn't seem very leveled.

The songs sound great to me in LA - better than Europe for sure.




2717596, i dont mind the 'dont care about the audience' thing
Posted by GumDrops, Sun Jul-08-12 05:34 AM
>and the second one (NY Times) was clearly written by someone
>who is a BIG D'Angelo fan... and as much as he sort of disses
>the audience for not getting the complexity of D's new music,
>he also makes it pretty clear that D offered a pretty
>lackluster, unengaging performance, not addressing the
>audience or trying to draw them in any way.

but he needs to go all the way with it. like play with his back to the audience and make them all but hate him lol.
2717598, the headlines said it all "MumBlo puts them to SleepO"
Posted by mistermaxxx08, Sun Jul-08-12 05:53 AM
Mumblo was mumbling and then snores were louder than his screams and bored faces in places were like we bouts to tell you how it feels.
2717604, ROTFL
Posted by revolution75, Sun Jul-08-12 06:51 AM
Maxx you're killing me!!!
The jokes seem to write themselves when it comes to this subject though
I was dying when he was trying to get folks to sing along to Chicken Grease!!

2717622, Yet when you see the Essence footage - they sound great
Posted by Artful Dodger, Sun Jul-08-12 09:44 AM
shrugs.

I'll go with my ears fuck a review.

2717481, LMAO b/w SMH
Posted by AFKAP_of_Darkness, Sat Jul-07-12 04:31 PM
>That's why a lot of the heads stuck on the past
>are gonna hate. This album is not for them. It's for real
>music lovers. Anyone who loves Fishbone, P Funk, and many
>other forms of non traditional black music will get stoked on
>his new thing.

You know, I've often said that one of D'Angelo's biggest problems is his fans. Not just the high-profile ones who pump out all this PR flack making him out to be the kind of musical giant that he can never live up to... but the rank and file fans are pretty obnoxious too, with their smug self-congratulation.

I think that's one of the things that irritates/motivates a lot of the "D haters"... the fact that the D'fenders can't just like the shit they like, they have to go out of their way to suggest (or sometimes striaght proclaim) that anybody who doesn't like he same shit isn't "a true music lover" or "can't feel live, funky music" or is a shallow pop-head or something.

I remember how mad folks got years ago when I said that people in the Lesson were not educated enough to understand Cody ChesnuTT, yet D'Angelo fans are given free rein to make comments like the one you just made.

EDIT: By the way, what makes P-Funk "non-traditional black music"? If anything, wouldn't it be *traditional*?
2717490, I agree with this and I'm a fan
Posted by Ally Al 2003, Sat Jul-07-12 05:50 PM

>You know, I've often said that one of D'Angelo's biggest
>problems is his fans. Not just the high-profile ones who pump
>out all this PR flack making him out to be the kind of musical
>giant that he can never live up to... but the rank and file
>fans are pretty obnoxious too, with their smug
>self-congratulation.
>
>I think that's one of the things that irritates/motivates a
>lot of the "D haters"... the fact that the D'fenders can't
>just like the shit they like, they have to go out of their way
>to suggest (or sometimes straight proclaim) that anybody who
>doesn't like he same shit isn't "a true music lover" or "can't
>feel live, funky music" or is a shallow pop-head or
>something.

they don't get that billing him as the second coming really does him no favours

also the whole he can play like Eddie/ Frank but he doesn't want to show it, he doesn't want the next black guitar god tag. Funny because every new publicity shot I've seen he is holding a guitar, I don't get it *shrugs*

2717574, I really don't get this
Posted by Luke Cage, Sun Jul-08-12 12:51 AM

>also the whole he can play like Eddie/ Frank but he doesn't
>want to show it, he doesn't want the next black guitar god
>tag. Funny because every new publicity shot I've seen he is
>holding a guitar, I don't get it *shrugs*


I've seen D play guitar years ago and I watched him play on the 4th and I just can't understand how anyone can claim that he's some great guitar player when he barely looks comfortable holding the instrument. Quest is someone that I respect immensely but I can't for the life of me understand why he keeps saying that D is this reluctant guitar hero.
2717605, Me neither
Posted by revolution75, Sun Jul-08-12 06:54 AM
He wants it
Just like he wanted the fame from 2000
His people have him believing in this shit as well
It's not a good look and it's not working
The ONLY thing that saved Voodoo from flopping was that video
And that ain't gonna work this time around!
2717488, It's going to be good based of off what?
Posted by Tim The Creator, Sat Jul-07-12 05:25 PM
?
2717670, just a guess...but probably based on the new songs he's
Posted by Warren Coolidge, Sun Jul-08-12 01:02 PM
performing...

2717823, what I've heard
Posted by Coco la chapelle, Mon Jul-09-12 04:12 AM
Im not seing people are going to like it and Im definitely not seing its going to be a classic but I like what I've heard so far, that's it.
2717534, Untitled @ Essence Video
Posted by Tim The Creator, Sat Jul-07-12 09:06 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5GwPsS5mnU
2717535, SDMF @ essence
Posted by Tim The Creator, Sat Jul-07-12 09:09 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVMGjzwKoGE

I dunno, with that band they should never have excuses
that was truly lackluster

what happened to D's personality?
2717616, RS Review of the Essence Set (Swipe)
Posted by revolution75, Sun Jul-08-12 09:09 AM
Heir-apparent to every iconic soul singer???? BAWAHAHAHAHA



D'Angelo Woos Stadium Crowd At Essence Fest

Rolling Stone – 21 hours ago

An impossibly high-pitched "aaahh" ascended from a churchy organ vamp, proclaiming D'Angelo’s arrival on the biggest stage he has played since his legendary Voodoo tour. Clad in rugged boots, leather vest and trademark tanktop (all black), he appeared with a perfect confidence and poise that belied his recently broken 12-year hiatus from the stage.
His performance at the Essence Music Festival in New Orleans has been anticipated as D'Angelo’s American comeback, but the reclusive R&B polymath has been unfolding a cautious return. It began this January with a short European club tour, which confirmed that he hadn’t lost an ounce of mojo. He also added a batch of new songs to his repertoire. The Essence show was the first US gig on the books, but he warmed up to his big night by jamming covers with "co-pilot" ?uestlove at Bonnaroo, playing a new song on TV for the BET Awards, and running through a full set – a dress rehearsal of sorts – on the 4th of July at the House of Blues in Los Angeles.
So come Essence Fest, D'Angelo and his band of virtuoso studio pros (including Pino Palladino on bass and Chris "Daddy" Dave on the drums) were locked in tight. They articulated every breathy, rhythmic nuance from D'Angelo’s distinctive palate. One song instantly became another when D'Angelo clutched his fist – classic stage magic he picked up from his idols, or "yodas," as he calls them. The frequent falsetto yelps – "good God!" – suggested the night’s yoda du jour was James Brown, although his side-by-side guitar solos with Jesse Johnson (from the Time) found D playing at Prince as well.
D'Angelo coolly picked along to "Playa Playa" on guitar and sang a breezy take on Roberta Flack’s "Feel Like Makin' Love," embellished by the lush harmonies of his powerhouse backup vocalists. A new song known as "Ain’t That Easy" followed, featuring a chunky bass riff that gave way to some of D's most accessible melodies. He’s so comfortable playing the new material that it’s easy to hear the songs as centerpieces of future shows. He ditched the guitar for "Devil’s Pie," which freed up his body to muscularly saunter about the stage and viciously headbang with dynamo vocalist Kendra Foster. A sturdy "Chicken Grease" led into the gentle "Really Love," an unreleased song that ?uestlove leaked on Australian radio back in 2007, which featured D’s high-flying, taught falsetto accompanied by smooth guitar licks. The 70-minute festival set was brief for D’s shows, so many of the grooves were abbreviated. Yet one song that got completely deconstructed and jammed back together was "Shit, Damn, Motherfucker." The pleading opening verse was the band’s most intense, raw moment. As the song revved up, D and his singers stalked around the stage in a frenzy, resulting in some toppled drums.
Despite the spike in energy onstage, much of the crowd remained politely subdued. D'Angelo's set came between Trey Songz and Charlie Wilson, both of whom quickly had the mostly female, mostly adult Essence attendees on their feet. After Songz’ saccharine crooning, D'Angelo sounded downright unruly, almost abrasive. R&B is a nebulous descriptor, but D'Angelo's funk and soul abstractions highlighted how his approach to the genre is distinct from the festival’s other acts.
Still, he has one undeniable number, and it successfully ensnared the audience. Solo on piano, he abruptly banged out the opening chord to "Untitled (How Does It Feel)," and the energy in the Superdome immediately focused into a deafening flurry of screams. He stopped playing, stood up, shook his head, then flashed a cheeky grin. In perfect time, he gracefully returned to his infamous mega-hit, played beautifully and stripped bare. "Untitled" provided the crowd nostalgic pleasure that doubled as a gateway into the richness of D'Angelo's prodigious talents, if maybe a few songs too late. A well-timed "Lady" broke the slow jam spell, and he closed out with his superb new funk thumper, "Sugah Daddy." He rode his new groove until the show’s close, screaming, wailing, and frantically conducting the band’s final notes.
As the heir-apparent to practically every iconic soul singer, the pressure to finish his third studio album and get back on the road has been markedly high, but his solid performance on the big stage proves he has yet to flinch. The comeback will continue later this summer when D'Angelo tours with Mary J. Blige, Essence’s Saturday headliner. Just before D’s set, Blige commented on the upcoming tour to Rolling Stone, saying "I felt like it would be refreshing and fun for people to see him and Mary J. Blige on the road together." Their tour will make 20 stops in August.

Set List
Intro
"Playa Playa"
"Feel Like Makin’ Love"
"Ain’t That Easy"
"Devil’s Pie"
"Chicken Grease"
"Really Love"
"Shit, Damn, Motherfucker"
"Untitled (How Does It Feel)"
"Lady"
"Sugah Daddy"
2717623, See - don't let reviews fool ya - he did his thing at Essence...
Posted by Artful Dodger, Sun Jul-08-12 09:48 AM
I honestly think it comes down to two things

men: jealousy - they been waiting to hate

women: his looks... he's not the cut, svelt young man of yore so

Beyond that he sounded great man.

Ya'll kill me doggin him out but giving Frank Ocean/The Weeknd a pass and they are straight up karaoke night. smh.
2717626, LOL
Posted by revolution75, Sun Jul-08-12 10:11 AM
I know plenty of music heads (who are in bands and play instruments) who went to Essence and said that it wasn't bad but it sure wasn't great.

I dunno

Frank and The Weeknd:
Those cats are just doing their thing and that makes them ok in my book
Drake aint going around saying that he saw Weeknd do the drum pattern for 777-9311 on a fisher price drum set but he ain't gonna show anyone 'cuz he scared
or Tyler saying Frank can perform all the vocal parts to Adore note for note.

I dont have a problem with D'Angelo, the person and musician
As others have said, we want dude to do his thing
With that said, I have a major problem with his hype machine
and the folks who do this can't see the damage that it does
Always have and always will
Let D'Angelo be D'Angelo
not the heir-apparent to so and so
That shit really needs to stop
Hell.....even his contemporary Maxwell has his own lane in 2012

2717661, haha I hear you that's true actually
Posted by Artful Dodger, Sun Jul-08-12 12:15 PM
"Drake aint going around saying that he saw Weeknd do the drum pattern for 777-9311 on a fisher price drum set but he ain't gonna show anyone 'cuz he scared
or Tyler saying Frank can perform all the vocal parts to Adore note for note."

It seems like Questo got the message. I won't blame D'angelo for the action of others.
2717627, So a minute ago you were saying 'fuck reviews'
Posted by AFKAP_of_Darkness, Sun Jul-08-12 10:13 AM
and now that you've found a review that's favorable, all of a sudden it's credible?

I don't know about that... That review was so gushingly ecstatic that it might as well have been a press release from D's camp (any review that reverentially evokes the word "Yodas" and declares D as "the heir to every iconic soul singer" is clearly some fan-wankery shit).

But I mean, you could turn it around on me and say that I seem willing to believe the negative reviews while I discount the positive ones... I dunno, but the personal fan responses I've seen on Facebook and Twitter give me the impression that it left something to be desired. Even many of the unabashed D fans are not necessarily saying it was "good," they are saying "Hey, he's been away 12 years... He's had problems... even Charlie Wilson had to struggle a bit before he found his groove again. Let that man grow."

I think that's fair.

>I honestly think it comes down to two things
>
>men: jealousy - they been waiting to hate
>
>women: his looks... he's not the cut, svelt young man of yore
>so
>
>Beyond that he sounded great man.
>
>Ya'll kill me doggin him out but giving Frank Ocean/The Weeknd
>a pass and they are straight up karaoke night. smh.
2717656, You are right I did and the third review proves my point even further
Posted by Artful Dodger, Sun Jul-08-12 12:05 PM
The one review (the one I got a chance to read) of his Essence show seemed to clearly gloss over two positive to great performances (Bonnaroo and LA). Only highlighting the BET & Essence shows in a negative light - isn't exactly leveled coverage.

Yes I did say f a review - but this proves my point even further why I would - cause it's merely someone's opinion and depending on their headspace it could go from downright hateful to stannish.

Either way isn't a full fair representation - that's why I said F a review I'll just use my ears.

2717736, RE: You are right I did and the third review proves my point even further
Posted by Skit08, Sun Jul-08-12 06:06 PM
I've only seen one or two reviews that were accurate.I'm honestly questioning the "favorable" ones that are overrating the hell out of his Essence performance.

It tells me that many of the writers are die hard D'Angelo fans (much like I am...I'm rooting for him all the way) who are in denial of where D'Angelo is now because we have some top R&B dudes (Trey, Usher, Chris, etc...they are painfully average these days)who aren't giving us what D did back in the 90's and with Voodoo.We want him to be up there with the greats, to bring R&B "back"..howwver,I realized with the Essence performance that he's not *that* good despite the proclamations.

If you look at it from a critical, live music eye it was "ok." Not great, but ok. Disappointing? Like hell it was.
2717784, That doesn't describe me at all personally
Posted by Artful Dodger, Sun Jul-08-12 11:10 PM
I don't believe anyone can save anything and there is alot of great music out there - I'm definitely not a D'angelo stan or over the top fan.

I just know the Essence show sounded good to my ears.

And also they failed to mention one great show and another really good one - Bonnaroo and LA.

That said - I hear you on the reviewers it can go from hate to stannish so either way isn't solid.

2717840, MJB & D?
Posted by SoWhat, Mon Jul-09-12 08:20 AM
oh? ok.
2717881, I know right - the perfect tour would have been Erica/D'angelo
Posted by Artful Dodger, Mon Jul-09-12 11:18 AM
or even Lauryn...
2717903, MJB & D is pretty good too.
Posted by SoWhat, Mon Jul-09-12 12:23 PM
i'll take it.
2717660, Peeping the North Sea Jazz festival webast today..
Posted by Warren Coolidge, Sun Jul-08-12 12:11 PM
http://radioplayer.omroep.nl/radio6/

not sure what time PST D performs though.....

probably get some good video out of this performance as the North Sea Jazz festival usually has audio and video archived after the festival...

they already have betty wright's set up from last night...pretty smokin http://programma.ntr.nl/nsjplayer?id=WO_NTR_024972

here's a video link through the Radio 6 site http://socialplayer.omroep.nl/radio/6
2717665, Supposed to start within the hour n/m
Posted by betelgeuse, Sun Jul-08-12 12:35 PM
2717698, RE: Supposed to start within the hour n/m
Posted by Vhien, Sun Jul-08-12 03:07 PM
He got there an hour late and the crowd boo'd (rightfully so). Yeah... That's not cool, D'. Not cool at all.
2717706, did he redeem his self???
Posted by revolution75, Sun Jul-08-12 04:10 PM
2717708, Oh nooooooooooooooooooooo.......come on, D ??? *sigh*.
Posted by Silky1, Sun Jul-08-12 04:16 PM
>He got there an hour late and the crowd boo'd (rightfully
>so). Yeah... That's not cool, D'. Not cool at all.


silk.later Reunion radio with Old P. & Silk http://reunionradio.blogspot.com/

"i'm talking about *Balls Deep*....In Love (c)Cleveland Jr.

He was cultivating a fine nigga farm (c)Goldmind.

R.I.P Jamie Hubley
2717718, wonder is this crowd is smart enough to get D'angelo.
Posted by Tim The Creator, Sun Jul-08-12 04:35 PM
>>He got there an hour late and the crowd boo'd (rightfully
>>so). Yeah... That's not cool, D'. Not cool at all.
>
>
>silk.later Reunion radio with Old P. & Silk
>http://reunionradio.blogspot.com/
>
>"i'm talking about *Balls Deep*....In Love (c)Cleveland Jr.
>
>He was cultivating a fine nigga farm (c)Goldmind.
>
>R.I.P Jamie Hubley
2717824, Is that a festival thing
Posted by Coco la chapelle, Mon Jul-09-12 04:19 AM
Cause 90% of the performer I've seen those past 2 years were at least 30 min late, Im not saying that's ok, it's good thing that people let the artist know that its not ok but I've never seen an audience act like this ...
2717889, no, festivals are usually actually more on-schedule than regular shows
Posted by Bombastic, Mon Jul-09-12 11:39 AM
.
2718288, Not at North Sea Jazz, they're really tight with theirs.
Posted by Deluge, Tue Jul-10-12 02:58 AM
2717673, Ready for that new album
Posted by Controversy1999, Sun Jul-08-12 01:17 PM
Seriously ready for that new album!

A cousin of mine who lives in Europe saw a show on the tour and said it was great. I'm happy that the tour is cool. But new music is where it's really at. We've waited 12 years. It's time.
2717797, this post is still going
Posted by Crash Bandacoot, Mon Jul-09-12 12:19 AM
that guy must be pretty good to garner this much attention.


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

"It is better to be silent and thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt"
2717798, Or not.
Posted by AFKAP_of_Darkness, Mon Jul-09-12 12:30 AM
People also garner attention for being *not* that good. Or for being overpraised. Or for having unfulfilled potential, or massive hype.
2717901, some video from North sea jazz fest
Posted by Warren Coolidge, Mon Jul-09-12 12:17 PM
Lady
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUDMh4lB_8Q

Sugar Daddy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RP1-eS5SClQ

2717979, looking flabby in the wife beater
Posted by urbgriot, Mon Jul-09-12 02:34 PM
and why his band looks so hodge podge
he just doesn't appear polished in any form..
I'm sure the band is tight and that they sound good..
But..
are you a crooner a la John Legend who is just gonna be stationary behind the piano..
Or...
are you a true showman a la Rick/Sly hell give me R Kelly..

Right now he looks and sounds like a big budgeted over hyped Vanhunt.
Not this next level artist we keep hearing about..

If he wants to leave a real impact he has to decide what he wants to be ..
2717987, So according to this arbitrary bullshit criteria you just invented...
Posted by Buck, Mon Jul-09-12 02:51 PM
...D doesn't measure up.

>and why his band looks so hodge podge
>he just doesn't appear polished in any form..
>I'm sure the band is tight and that they sound good..
>But..
>are you a crooner a la John Legend who is just gonna be
>stationary behind the piano..
>Or...
>are you a true showman a la Rick/Sly hell give me R Kelly..
>
>Right now he looks and sounds like a big budgeted over hyped
>Vanhunt.
>Not this next level artist we keep hearing about..
>
>If he wants to leave a real impact he has to decide what he
>wants to be ..
2717990, not at the moment
Posted by urbgriot, Mon Jul-09-12 02:55 PM
He looks like some kind of underground B artist..
2718031, But, John doesn't completely stay behind the keys, his whole show
Posted by Silky1, Mon Jul-09-12 04:56 PM
>are you a crooner a la John Legend who is just gonna be
>stationary behind the piano..

.......he gets up, just like D does. *shrugs*. And can't he do both ? Why does he have to stay behind the keys all night ?

silk.later Reunion radio with Old P. & Silk http://reunionradio.blogspot.com/

"i'm talking about *Balls Deep*....In Love (c)Cleveland Jr.

He was cultivating a fine nigga farm (c)Goldmind.

R.I.P Jamie Hubley
2718053, Thanks WC been looking forward to this
Posted by Artful Dodger, Mon Jul-09-12 06:22 PM
2718056, Untitled from North Sea Jazz
Posted by Warren Coolidge, Mon Jul-09-12 06:35 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvErPUP_mmk

yeah...D's vocals sounds really good....

2718060, Man he sounds great - thanks for this!
Posted by Artful Dodger, Mon Jul-09-12 06:40 PM
Yeah man.
2718096, Really Love from North Sea Jazz
Posted by Vhien, Mon Jul-09-12 08:36 PM
Really Love - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qd3OFaHN_M&feature=related

I appreciate his jazzy lil' ad libs near the end.
2718104, I just can't stop smiling watching all this new footage.
Posted by Buck, Mon Jul-09-12 08:56 PM
Like an old friend just came back into town.
2718107, so is it nostalgia?
Posted by Tim The Creator, Mon Jul-09-12 08:58 PM
>Like an old friend just came back into town.
2718109, No, it's greatness.
Posted by Buck, Mon Jul-09-12 09:00 PM
Be mad.
2718106, is this recent or like 1999 late 2000? nigga mumbled the shit outta that
Posted by Tim The Creator, Mon Jul-09-12 08:57 PM




2718127, RE: is this recent or like 1999 late 2000? nigga mumbled the shit outta that
Posted by Vhien, Mon Jul-09-12 09:22 PM
Well, D'Angelo can't speak English anyways and he ain't ever will. I'm pretty glad he almost never gives video/spoken interviews, because then we'd just be reading bad subtitles. Real talk, I want an album released, so we can get the lyrics and at least half-pretend to know what he's saying. Sometimes the lyrics are pretty great, but you can't ever decipher them by ear. But after saying all that, he mumbles with such a nice falsetto.
2718142, +1
Posted by Tim The Creator, Mon Jul-09-12 09:35 PM
>Well, D'Angelo can't speak English anyways and he ain't ever
>will. I'm pretty glad he almost never gives video/spoken
>interviews, because then we'd just be reading bad subtitles.
>Real talk, I want an album released, so we can get the lyrics
>and at least half-pretend to know what he's saying. Sometimes
>the lyrics are pretty great, but you can't ever
>decipher them by ear. But after saying all that, he mumbles
>with such a nice falsetto.
2718245, I'm digging this performance of "Untitled". Thanks W.C.
Posted by Silky1, Mon Jul-09-12 11:53 PM
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvErPUP_mmk
>
>yeah...D's vocals sounds really good....
>
>


silk.later Reunion radio with Old P. & Silk http://reunionradio.blogspot.com/

"i'm talking about *Balls Deep*....In Love (c)Cleveland Jr.

He was cultivating a fine nigga farm (c)Goldmind.

R.I.P Jamie Hubley
2718335, If he's touring like that
Posted by Coco la chapelle, Tue Jul-10-12 07:50 AM
Does that mean the album is finished ?
2718445, RE: If he's touring like that
Posted by Vhien, Tue Jul-10-12 11:47 AM
Well, the album has been 99.99999999999999% done or something since winter supposedly. Even though, eeven listening to some of the live arrangements between January and now, you can tell he's 'tinkering'. But like, BET 'Sugah Daddy' v. 'Sugah Daddy' everywhere else suggest he has a 'single' format and a 'LP' format dnoe at least. It really does feel like he's done and he's self-conscious about his work or whatever. If his label is pushing for a release by Sept. or Aug. though, he might be standing on the verge of letting it go.
2719845, RE: D'Angelo Live at the House of Blues 7/4/2012
Posted by JimmyJon, Fri Jul-13-12 06:35 AM
NSJF FLAC: https://www.dropbox.com/s/2a61b3woacpl2y7/DAngelo2012-07-08-NSJF%20%28FLAC%29.zip
or
NSJF MP3: https://www.dropbox.com/s/l0zn2l2r2iopos7/DAngelo2012-07-08-NSJF%20%28MP3%29.zip

plus some great quality vidoes of most of the Cologne show here: http://vimeo.com/user8012821/videos
2719886, Fantastic. Much, much appreciated.
Posted by Buck, Fri Jul-13-12 09:48 AM