>>I used the term internet chittlin circuit to describe a
>>marketing strategy that was sustaining artists outside of
>the
>>mainstream current norms. I described the purpose of the
>>internet chittlin circuit as being away for those artists to
>>be heard and market the product outside of the narrowed down
>>mainstream...for the purposes of getting their music
>>heard...ie. going to concerts and buying records.
>
>You couldn't tell me how many dollars you actually contributed
>to supporting these artists' careers, but ventured that you
>supported them by "spreading the word." And I asked you how
>many people like you thought they were actually supporting the
>artist by "spreading the word" and how does that help the
>artist who actually has to SELL to survive?


So all of these artists like Rahsaan Patterson or SBTRKT or Amp Fiddler or Jose James or even classic artists like LJ Reynolds.... all those type of people are sustaining themselves without utilizing the mainstream US radio/tv or marketing means.

They are making dollars some kind of way...they are selling records...selling tickets to shows....

it's working for them...maybe it could be workig better..but they are still in the game grinding for themselves even the the industry has drasticlly changed...

you are trying to say that there are plenty of authentic jazz artists out there still making a living ...well bruh...this is how many of them are making it....Jose James, Mario Biondi, now Gregory Porter....they are all a part of what I was saying in that post.

I spend plenty on music....and fortunately for me there are places to find the music I enjoy outside of your standard current mainstream avenues....




>
>And your notion that I suggested there was no life outside the
>mainstream is ridiculous because (and I pointed this out even
>back then): I myself run a non-mainstream music business that
>was grown via Internet buzz, but has succeeded only because
>*my audience actually buys my shit*! However--and if I recall,
>this was essentially my thesis statement--that "Internet buzz"
>on its own is pretty worthless unless real dollars are being
>invested into supporting the artists, and way too many people
>think that circulating links equals actual support.

so again..all of those people I named and the others of their ilk have careers because people are buying their records and going to their shows. With the changes in the business people had to adjust or find other careers...there are plenty of artists who have found their niche and the internet has played a huge role in that...yeah I called it the internet chittlin circuit, but it's really simply about utilizng what is available to maximize your exposure...




>
>>bottom line is that there are tons of artists making soul,
>>funk, R&B and jazz who are making really solid music and
>>making a decent living using other than mainstream avenues
>to
>>promote their work.
>>
>>You argued against that concept previously yet now you
>embrace
>>it to try and diss D'Angelo.... lol..
>
>I never argued against that concept and I didn't use it to
>diss D'Angelo either. I ridiculed vee-lover's (false) claim
>that there is no market for jazz. But I guess anybody who
>disagrees with a D'Angelo stan on *any* subject is
>automatically dissing D'Angelo smh

you used current Black Jazz artists as an example of artists who are more authentic than D'Angelo and making a living on jazz labels.... Previously the idea that there were plenty of soul R&B or electronic music type of acts making a living on labels that cater to that music and using avenues that are outside the mainstream for black music was something you dimissed....

The internet chittlin circuit is promoting those jazz artists too...very much so...particularly a Jose James or a Gregory Porter...

and dude..you dissapear on these boards only to return to be the D'Angelo contrarian....so really who is the stan??? lolol.