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2694234, the negative effects of the Source mic rateing system
Posted by ABROCK33, Thu May-03-12 02:42 PM

people forget to listen with their own ears instead takeing whoever the reviewer was as the end all be all

I've seen it for awhile and even tho it isnt relegated just to Illmatic it seems it is reaching a head with that lp

I cant count the times when in a debate the mic rateing of an album was used to justify or condem an lp

I always looked at the Source as a guide

but it seems that the mic rateing system has influenced a lot of peoples opnion to take their word as "absolute truth"

Benzino recognized the power of the media thats why he tried to take it over

you think other record companies also didnt learn this quickly? people dont realize that by clinging the review before they heard the lps that a baseline was allready established by which to interpret the music

people actually dont trust their own ears anymore

of course the Source is no more but that idealogy has handicapped the people to beleivethey need the confirmation/validation from a "reputable" party they deem credible

although I enjoyed the Source at the begining I never took it as law and allowed my ears to be the judge of what was dope or whack
2694244, this is why i loved blockbuster music back then
Posted by bucknchange, Thu May-03-12 02:53 PM
let you listen to records in the store before buying
if you weren't ice cube or master p, ever priority release ever got anything more than 3 mics...lol
it was always strong east coast bias in the source, outkast may have been the only non-ny acts that got a high ratings and i don't think they got the coveted '5 mics'
2694252, Aquemini got 5 mics
Posted by Garhart Poppwell, Thu May-03-12 03:12 PM
SP got 4.5 and everything else got 4-even Idlewild, which is ridiculous to me
2694291, Goodie Mob too. I think their first two LP's got 4 mics
Posted by Nick Has a Problem...Seriously, Thu May-03-12 03:55 PM
but i agree and have said many times before that the source was biased as hell and made illmatic bigger than it actually was.
2695115, not only the south records
Posted by astralblak, Fri May-04-12 10:33 PM
but underground records from both coast. heads like co flow, loot pack, free style fellowship (after the first 2 lps), the liks, etc always got 2.5-3.5 mics. shit was comedy
2694245, RE: the negative effects of the Source mic rateing system
Posted by jaybennie, Thu May-03-12 02:56 PM
the early period of the source got their 5 mics correct. afterwards, it was just BS...I tend to look at the 4.5 mic albums, because they were better than the 5 mics.

on another note, the independent/smaller labels who got 3.5 mics was another indicator of an album to check out
2694254, Kaney complained his way to a 5 mic rating
Posted by Garhart Poppwell, Thu May-03-12 03:17 PM
for an album that nobody listens to anymore
the Made Men stunt, the Lil Kim rating and the rushed efforts involving Bun B and Kaney really put the nail in the coffin for those ratings meaning anything
it surprises me that Kaney isn't mad about the fact that nobody gives a shit that he finally got a 5
2695116, which Ye album got a 5 mic rating?
Posted by astralblak, Fri May-04-12 10:34 PM
the Kim shit was just embarrassing, and the Bun B shit was an obvious honorary 5 since UGK got the shaft in the past and their legacy was starting to coalesce once that album dropped.
2694259, RE: Yeah, what I don't get is. . .
Posted by Austin, Thu May-03-12 03:19 PM
. . .how people KNOW that they were selling mics, giving bias to certain acts and just generally operating dishonorably yet they STILL value those ratings.

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2694336, most people are sheep
Posted by ABROCK33, Thu May-03-12 04:57 PM
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2694339, Nah. Just most people who still care about The Source.
Posted by Shaun Tha Don, Thu May-03-12 05:01 PM
2694260, I'm amazed when people still use/reference it.
Posted by JFrost1117, Thu May-03-12 03:20 PM
And when people use it to compare 2 or more completely unrelated albums. I always found it more interesting to read the 1-2 mic reviews.
2694267, The Young MC album comes to mind
Posted by jaybennie, Thu May-03-12 03:27 PM
Return of the One Hit Wonder...I may check that album in the near future
2694270, RE: Right?
Posted by Austin, Thu May-03-12 03:31 PM
It seems like they were kind of the "Pitchfork" of hip hop reviews at that point, where a 2.5 mic or lower review would usually guarantee that you'd never hear from that person again.

(obvious exception here is the Lootpack album)

~Austin

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2694438, i havent read the source
Posted by Ezzsential, Thu May-03-12 08:22 PM
for years...i like xxl better...

semantics softer than couples at wedding alters
this cops and robbers
and u cant hold a candle
rip ur antlers off and hang them on my mantle
str8 rambo--rocket science wouldnt even try it
these dudes cant compare their focus is on a diet~me
2694439, RE: i havent read the source
Posted by spidey, Thu May-03-12 08:25 PM
...they are both hot steaming garbage imo...carry on!
2694462, Same here. But even XXL is falling off.
Posted by Shaun Tha Don, Thu May-03-12 08:49 PM
2695117, i've always found XXL borderline atrocious
Posted by astralblak, Fri May-04-12 10:37 PM
were The Source skewed East, XXL skewed towards POP Rap artist and their affiliates and the South