>YES! THAT MATTERS! Kanye has expanded Hip Hop's fan base!
>Those people who don't normally listen to rap that listen to
>Kanye are now more open to it... I'm sure you won't understand
>what I'm talking about though...
>

i understand. and 2 things:

1-you severely underestimate the reach and influence of artists who are HUGE by any real standard but who don't show up on pop charts, and 2-you severely overestimate the importance of what u talk abt here as far as determining who is a legend in HIPHOP




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>>>and can you tell me who has had more influence, Ye or Lib??
>>
>>influence on who and what?
>>
>>for my buck Lib has had CONSIDERABLY more influence on
>>*hiphop* than Kanye West
>
>That's great... Glad you're being stubborn on this... shows
>you're consistent and that you have no intention of
>acknowledging that Ye has had influence in not only hip hop,
>but in music..

"has had"?

duh

Kanye "has had" HUGE influence...what i challenge is the factual nature of the assumption that Lib hasnt to the same extent or possibly more, in hiphop, and alsiin new directions in music

Madvillainy spawned more artistic clones than College Dropout

Has Kanye made a jazz album? Do you think no one is influenced by Lib's jazz work? his beatdigging is THE STANDARD for hiphop

There was never a time in 2000's that every
>rapper wanted a MadLib beat

for my $, your wrong and talking out your ass

>I'm sure you won't understand
>what I'm talking about though...
>
>

pretty much

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>>>who's music will be remembered more, Ye or Lib??
>>
>>by whom?
>
>people... in future generations... will remember... Kanye
>West's music... more than they'll remember... Mad...Lib's...
>music...

wrong. you can not base this assumption on the situation on the "ground" (or pop charts) in 2012...it shows a lack of understanding of history

>I'm sure you won't understand what I'm talking about though...
>
>

basically

>
>
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>>>who has had more of cultural impact, Ye or Lib??
>>
>>imact on whose culture? what culture? american popular
>>culture? and that's how to judge what makes a HIPHOP artist
>>legendary
>
>Yes... that counts... And as much as you don't like to admit
>this, Hip Hop has had an impact on America's popular
>culture...

*smh*

and with this (incorrect) assumption our time here is done and i bid you a fair evening

lol

Kinda like Jazz music... took a little bit of time,
>but it is definitely part of America's popular culture... I'm
>sure you won't understand what I'm talking about though...
>
>
>
>>yall's logic is not actually logic

^^




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>>>
>>>I really am interested in your answers...
>>>
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>>my answer is that if this post was titled: who are the rap
>>artists who were most popular on the pop charts over the
>last
>>decade, i'd have no issue bc then it would actually be
>HONEST
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>
>Did you understand anything that you just read??
>