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Topic subjectWho said it: James Joyce or Kool Keith?
Topic URLhttp://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=5&topic_id=2686633
2686633, Who said it: James Joyce or Kool Keith?
Posted by mrhood75, Mon Apr-16-12 11:23 AM
Courtesy of Oakley over in GD:

http://hudsonhongo.com/joyce/
2686646, Ha! 6 out of 10.
Posted by stylez dainty, Mon Apr-16-12 11:40 AM
Not super familiar with either, so I was going in fresh. Some of the ones I got wrong really surprised me. Actually, I think one of them will surprise a lot of people.
2686653, Goddamn, I read Ulysses in college & bombed on this
Posted by Bombastic, Mon Apr-16-12 11:45 AM
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2686656, C'mon, no one actually reads Ulysees in college
Posted by mrhood75, Mon Apr-16-12 11:49 AM
Certainly not all of it.

FWIW, I got 8 out of 10, and I never picked up Ulysees in my life.
2686672, Curse of an English Major, not only read it but read this:
Posted by Bombastic, Mon Apr-16-12 12:13 PM
http://www.amazon.com/The-New-Bloomsday-Book-Through/dp/0415138582

^^^You know it's rough-sledding when there's a 300-page book on how to read another book.

I sorta fell off with Kool Keith outside of guest appearances and a few cuts here & there after Ultramagnetic.

I think I owned Lost In Space for a minute but it fell out of my possession in the hazy college days fairly quickly, someone else bumped Dr Octagon enough that I didn't feel the need to buy it.

I don't recommend reading Joyce to anyone I actually like though, in fact I'm really not sure I can say I read every page to full efforts of comprehension.

Like some of the technical whaling excursion chapters in Moby Dick, there may have been a bit of skimming going on.

I see it on the top of every literary list for last century & it just feels like something pompous literature bores say is the best without actually arriving at the idea through their own non-invested reading pleasure.

Like the end of a particularly brutal cross-country race, I was pained & miserable much of the time I was actually doing it but I guess there's some feeling of accomplishment after the fact.

I can't imagine trying to read a book like that now while having to go to work every day & relax/have fun in the interim, just too much of a chore.

The most I'll do Joyce-related right now would probably be that annual Ulysses/Bloomsday pub crawl if by some stroke of magic/destiny I happened to be in Dublin with time to kill during the time of its happening.
2686694, So, did you have to subject yourself to "Finnegan's Wake" too?
Posted by mrhood75, Mon Apr-16-12 12:53 PM

>I sorta fell off with Kool Keith outside of guest appearances
>and a few cuts here & there after Ultramagnetic.
>
>I think I owned Lost In Space for a minute but it fell out of
>my possession in the hazy college days fairly quickly, someone
>else bumped Dr Octagon enough that I didn't feel the need to
>buy it.

I won't lie, I bumped the shit out of Dr. Octagon junior year of college. That album put me firmly in the "Kool Keith is the TRUTH!" camp. His highest point as a solo artist was probably 1998/99, with the Dr. Dooom/Lost in Space combo. I was with Keith until about the "Spankmaster" album. That was about 2001/2002. Dude just lacked quality control after that. I know the e-homie Adwhizz is a fan of work from that era.

>I don't recommend reading Joyce to anyone I actually like
>though, in fact I'm really not sure I can say I read every
>page to full efforts of comprehension.
>
>Like some of the technical whaling excursion chapters in Moby
>Dick, there may have been a bit of skimming going on.

I haven't gotten around to reading Moby Dick, mostly for this reason. Apparently it's one of the top five books ever written in the English language, but I'm not interested in the whaling excursion stuff.

>I see it on the top of every literary list for last century &
>it just feels like something pompous literature bores say is
>the best without actually arriving at the idea through their
>own non-invested reading pleasure.
>
>Like the end of a particularly brutal cross-country race, I
>was pained & miserable much of the time I was actually doing
>it but I guess there's some feeling of accomplishment after
>the fact.
>
>I can't imagine trying to read a book like that now while
>having to go to work every day & relax/have fun in the
>interim, just too much of a chore.
>
>The most I'll do Joyce-related right now would probably be
>that annual Ulysses/Bloomsday pub crawl if by some stroke of
>magic/destiny I happened to be in Dublin with time to kill
>during the time of its happening.

And again, you just outlined just about every reason that I'm hesitant to pick anything up by him. I need to relax my mind after work and on weekends, not put it through an egg-beater.

Now, where's the James Joyce alias?
2686970, 10/10 what WHAT
Posted by MikeDinosaur, Mon Apr-16-12 10:14 PM

>>it just feels like something pompous literature bores say is
>>the best without actually arriving at the idea through their
>>own non-invested reading pleasure.
>>

I think there's some really beautiful stuff in there that almost anyone with some patience could enjoy but it is buried in a lot of "jokes" only the most humorless school master could laugh at. And I think "laughing" means something different to them than it does to us.

If you really wanna read Moby Dick though you can honestly skip the whaling stuff. I imagine it's one of the easier books to abridge.
2687043, nah, I always thought I'd try Finnegan's Wake later
Posted by Bombastic, Tue Apr-17-12 06:38 AM
then I got out of school & realized that there's no way in hell I would do that to myself.

Perhaps if I live into retirement age but other than that I'll likely pass.
2686662, RE: Who said it: James Joyce or Kool Keith?
Posted by Conscious, Mon Apr-16-12 11:58 AM
8 out of 10... that was dope.
2686674, ha...that shit is funny
Posted by __Spread__, Mon Apr-16-12 12:14 PM
8 outta 10
2686687, RE: Who said it: James Joyce or Kool Keith?
Posted by Jakob Hellberg, Mon Apr-16-12 12:40 PM
http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=5&topic_id=2684899&mesg_id=2684899&listing_type=search
2686699, 8/10
Posted by s t a r s k y, Mon Apr-16-12 12:57 PM
Never read Jouce or listened to Kool Keith.
They got me with that 'plump mellow yellow' line.
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2686713, 9/10
Posted by Duval Spit, Mon Apr-16-12 01:44 PM
I missed the one I thought was most obviously Keith.
2686742, 10/10. i accidently clicked one i didn't wanna choose and it ended up correct
Posted by FortifiedLive, Mon Apr-16-12 02:41 PM
correct
2686867, I went 8 out of 10, and Keith is my all time Favorite rapper
Posted by Adwhizz, Mon Apr-16-12 06:21 PM
So yea that's crazy how similar they are
2686906, That was a lot of fun, I got 8/10.
Posted by cidolfas, Mon Apr-16-12 07:45 PM
2686909, My friend sent me this last week. 6/10
Posted by Brew, Mon Apr-16-12 07:58 PM
And I'm a huge Kool Keith fan. This idea was really funny.
2686953, 7/10
Posted by astralblak, Mon Apr-16-12 09:28 PM
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2686987, 9/10
Posted by Roadblock, Mon Apr-16-12 11:04 PM
2687027, I'm astonished that I got 0/10. Joyce MUST be an emcee
Posted by kwez, Tue Apr-17-12 02:43 AM
2687034, On second thought, the site has a bug that sometimes posts 0/10
Posted by kwez, Tue Apr-17-12 04:31 AM
But thats still cool though.

That "Kissed the plump mellow yellow smellow melons of her rump." one is crazy.

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2687042, aha, there was my issue, went from 0 to 10 to 10 of 10 on second try
Posted by Bombastic, Tue Apr-17-12 06:35 AM
but the 0 for 10 doesn't list the actual quotes & for some reason I just took their word for it.