>Hey, we're debating here, no need to take it to a level of
>acrimony. Ease up on the name calling.


"dude" is the only name i called u

>
>You realize I am not against sampling? I like samples. My
>point is music is not limited to that, which is why Madlib is
>still making incredible shit, because he does everything, and
>so does Jake One.
>

see i KNEW there was a reason white van music dropped out of my rotation after one day

i knew there was something off abtthose beats and now i kno y i wasnt feelin it


>Also you do realize that Afrika Bambatta was making electric
>beat rap music before cats started making boom bap?
>
>So electric beat music is closer to the roots of old school
>hip hop than
>boom bap is.

dj's extending loops...bambatta known as "the master of records"

>The shit Mantronix was doing, and the shit that Man Parrish
>put out, that shit was all electric beat music, same thing
>goes for Herbie Hancock's rocket....
>

it's rock IT...

and djs extending breaks still came b4 all of this, not to belittle the good music made by these artists


>That's the reason why I love so much of the eletric beat stuff
>because it takes me back to the sounds of Arthur Russell, DNA,
>Glenn Branca, Liquid Liquid, ESG, Afrika B, Mantronix, etc
>.....
>
>Hip Hop started off with keyboards and synthesizers, then came
>the MPC and SP1200
>
>

WRONG

hip hop started w/ a turntable and sound system manipulation

that is the essence


ill take herc and flash over all them