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Topic subjectRE: It's just my observation.
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2686111, RE: It's just my observation.
Posted by Anonymous, Sat Apr-14-12 10:26 PM
>>I love how when and artist puts a word like "story" into
>their
>>title it gives the dumb ass people a chance to jump at an
>>obvious opinion.
>
>That has nothing to do with it. If you're calling me a
>dumbass, that's your ignorance for getting heated about an
>"opinion column" style post.
>


Youre the one catching feelings because I wasn't even directing that at you. But there are many people with that cliche way of thinking.


>>Listen man, there is not an MC in the same realm of Nas when
>>it comes to storytelling period.
>
>He's definitely up there. There's a lot of amazing
>storytellers in rap music. I think Big and Nas are probably my
>two favorite, for different reasons.
>

That's cool.


>>From entire tracks like Undying Love to single verse like in
>>The Message, this dude tells a story with attention to
>detail
>>that other MCs just don't have.
>
>"The Message" isn't much of a story, imo. Nas does have
>intangibles and creates details that others would miss. But he
>doesn't have the same intangibles as Biggie. They approach
>things differently.
>

The Message is an example of how Nas will randomly tell stories in songs and have the story be a metaphor for what the song is about and it will relate to the other verses.


>>Big is a cool storyteller but his joints are fun little
>>stories...Nas is writing on another level than these other
>MCs
>>in this category.
>
>Not really.
>

Really.


>>There is a reason why I Gave You Power is beyond the best
>out
>>of the three gun metaphor joints and that's because Nas went
>>deeper with the metaphor and story and actually gave the gun
>>human characteristics while having a moral to the story,
>which
>>had a beginning, climax, and ending.
>
>IGYP is the best for the reasons you listed. But Pac wasn't a
>great storyteller. He also had a little help on the idea from
>OK.
>
>>I guess people just don't understand the art form. People
>on
>>here will probably say Snoops Lodi Dodi is a better story
>>joint than Undying Love.
>
>Again, if this is a jab at me for an opinion piece, that's
>your ignorance. I understand the artform plenty. "Undying
>Love" isn't the best story track of all time.
>

It's not a jab at you. It's a state to whoever takes offense to it, which you did. And please show me where I said Undying Love is the best story track of all time. Fact is, it's still better than IGASTT when we break down the detail and emotion put into the story.

>Perhaps we should look more in-depth at the two songs? You
>know, to have an actual discussion, instead of diversion.

Go ahead...I'm not diverting a damn thing. Undying Love is better in the sense of the set-up of the story, the details, the emotion, the imagery, the setting, damn near every aspect of storytelling. I won't vouch for the hook but every other part is better than IGASTT.