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2682774, I did...
Posted by scorpion, Fri Apr-06-12 04:45 PM
It is very rare that Quincy composed the music on the pop records he produced. He did, however, have a publishing company (Yellow Brick Road Music). James Ingram and The Brothers Johnson had the songs they wrote published by that company.

I assume the song you linked from ACE is Michael Jackson's PYT. Quincy Jones has writing credits on exactly TWO songs that he produced for Mike. PYT is one, the other is "Can't Get Outta The Rain" which was the non-album B-side to the Thriller singles.

Okay, here's the thing about that song. The song is credited to Michael Jackson and Quincy Jones as songwriters. However, all "Can't Get Outta The Rain" really is is the 2nd half of "You Can't Win" from The Wiz soundtrack, the song that Michael sang as The Scarecrow in the movie

Can't Get Outta The Rain:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbQixNjGo_k

Pic:
http://images.45cat.com/michael-jackson-cant-get-outta-the-rain-epic.jpg

You Can't Win (Full Version)- start at 3:06
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8k1JU3zQRv8

You Can't Win was written by Charlie Smalls for The Wiz, so how Quincy and Mike pulled that jack move, I dunno...

The point is Quincy Jones helped write ONE of the songs he produced for Mike...and depending who in the industry you ask, James Ingram wrote PYT on his own and added Quincy as writer at Q's request as a way to pay dues for getting put on...

>but Quincy composed.. A good deal of the music as well... not
>just arranging the song...
>
>Example... from Ascap ACE
>
> Writers:
> INGRAM JAMES E
> JONES QUINCY D
>
>Performers:
>DANNY GOKEY
>JACKSON M
>MICHAEL JACKSON
>
>Publishers/Administrators:
> YELLOWBRICK ROAD MUSIC
> C/O BMG RUBY SONGS
> PETER RALEIGH
>
> Email: royalties.us@bmg.com

>a "writer" can be either a composer or lyric writer..

You're right abt this much. Most popular songs have a lyric and a singer delivering that lyric. The person who writes the music is called the composer. The person who writes the lyrics is called the lyricist.

For example:
Elton John's hits were written by Elton John and Bernie Taupin. The credits on Elton's albums make it clear who did what.

"Music by Elton John. Lyrics by Bernie Taupin"

Pic:
http://www.piano-pal.com/images/products/secondary/hl00110079-1.jpg

Elton John is the composer. Bernie Taupin is the lyricist. Both are songwriters and they would divide the songwriters share of publishing royalties 50/50...



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