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Topic subject | Gimme like your two or three favorite performances by a drummer. |
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2682016, Gimme like your two or three favorite performances by a drummer. Posted by Dstl1, Thu Apr-05-12 08:13 AM
Could be on a recorded song or a live show...or whatever. In no particular order: John Bonham on "In the Light" Geez, Bonzo! I know some casual Zep fans might say "Moby Dick", but to me this was it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXFUnnoSphY
I know this guy gets a lot of shade thrown his way, but if you can find a way to hate on Lars Ulrich's drumming on "One"...do your thing. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WM8bTdBs-cw&ob=av2n
Finally...the one and only time I saw Tool perform live, Danny Carey DESTROYED shit all night. So in the pocket, so in tune with Maynard. When they played this, though...Goodnight! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCEeAn6_QJo
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2682020, Sly & the Family, 'In Time' Posted by SoWhat, Thu Apr-05-12 08:37 AM
especially the intro
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Mld7eSaydI
Prince, 'Ballad of Dorothy Parker'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6DmA5B-7ZA
(drum machine yeah, but Prince had to push the buttons)
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2682022, Three off the top: Posted by Dr Claw, Thu Apr-05-12 08:52 AM
Jeff Porcaro on Boz Scaggs's "Gimme The Goods" (check the end) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uF4c4ezM-Z8
Billy Cobham on his own "Stratus": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aw2rM0w-pc
Harvey Mason on Herbie Hancock's "Shiftless Shuffle" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdZpkQKJiBg
was going to list up Steve Gadd's work on Steely Dan's "Aja" which is rightfully epic. Ditto for Bernard Purdie's ever-imitated "Home At Last" groove. I went with "Stratus" for the same reason I almost threw up another Jeff groove, "Your Gold Teeth II". Jazz chops swiftly transformed into some rock/type shit.
on a random note, I was ever impressed with George Duke's playing drums on his own "Mr. McFreeze", since I consider him a keyboardist first and foremost. he does have a bit of Stevie Wonder-ish "off-beatness" but that was actually cool. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LusqREGpQnQ)
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2682027, damn, that gimme the goods was groovin like shit Posted by Dstl1, Thu Apr-05-12 09:06 AM
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2682023, Yeah, I can hate on Lars. Posted by Buck, Thu Apr-05-12 08:57 AM
He was crucial to the early development of metal drumming, and his work on "One" introduced double-kick to MTV and the mainstream, but even by 1989 he'd stopped developing as a drummer and was quickly becoming a punchline in the metal drumming community.
Compare what Dave Lombardo was doing with Slayer at the time ('90): http://youtu.be/QiyBq_llIbM
And Vinnie Paul with Pantera ('92): http://youtu.be/Bp9yHjLAUfU
And within a couple of years you get Tomas Haake with Meshuggah ('95): http://youtu.be/FTF5uLZYfp0
And Martin Lopez with Opeth ('98): http://youtu.be/U3ZHajw3-3s
And Chris Adler with Lamb of God ('00): http://youtu.be/yz8wkh-uFlk
Meanwhile, Lars hasn't adapted at all, and in fact may have gotten worse, which is one the reasons Jason Newsted quit the band, commenting after he joined Voivod that "Lars stopped working on his art."
So yeah, Lars' drumming is easy to hate on. "One" is probably the peak of his recorded output, and in context, it really isn't that impressive.
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2682026, thanx Posted by Dstl1, Thu Apr-05-12 09:04 AM
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2682029, lol...my pleasure Posted by Buck, Thu Apr-05-12 09:11 AM
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2682072, I remember when the black alblum came out being like WTF Posted by debo40oz, Thu Apr-05-12 10:19 AM
it was the same boring beat throughout the whole thing.
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2682082, That's a horrible album for a variety of reasons. Posted by Buck, Thu Apr-05-12 10:29 AM
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2682171, I disagree SO much...but I understand how someone... Posted by Dstl1, Thu Apr-05-12 12:32 PM
would not like it, lol.
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2682098, Yeap, Lars went downhill very quickly Posted by zuma1986, Thu Apr-05-12 10:59 AM
I don't know if it was a health thing (I assume not everyone's body can take that abuse) or just a laziness thing (Why should I work this hard if I'm rich?) but right after And Justice For All... (Loved "Blackened" and "Dyers Eve") he fell off.
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2682145, The drums (and everything) on ...And Justice... Posted by Jakob Hellberg, Thu Apr-05-12 11:55 AM
...was supposedly recorded 1-2 bars at a time and I think you can hear it; there's something EXTREMELY clinical and cold about that record. I guess that's what they were aiming for but I could never really fully like it. But yes, that record has his best drumming IMO but that's not saying much, I'm another one who thinks he was lame, even during Metallica's prime...
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2682168, yeah...And Justice was def. his finest hour... Posted by Dstl1, Thu Apr-05-12 12:32 PM
I mean, damn: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfoDh1XL2wo
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2682172, Part of the coldness is the absence of bass. Posted by Buck, Thu Apr-05-12 12:35 PM
They mixed Newsted out of the record because they were still butthurt that he wasn't Cliff.
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2682174, yep...mufuckas hazed a bassist... Posted by Dstl1, Thu Apr-05-12 12:38 PM
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2682036, Three favorites: Posted by Buck, Thu Apr-05-12 09:25 AM
Gavin Harrison drum clinic performance of Porcupine Tree's "The Sound of Muzak": http://youtu.be/PxqWiRCg4mM
Tomas Haake with Meshuggah from the brand new "Koloss": http://youtu.be/2B6xFu8v368
Gene Lake with Steve Coleman and Five Elements: http://youtu.be/3n-vKZEfRr4
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2682046, Gene is that dude... Posted by natlawdp, Thu Apr-05-12 09:45 AM
>Gavin Harrison drum clinic performance of Porcupine Tree's >"The Sound of Muzak": http://youtu.be/PxqWiRCg4mM > >Tomas Haake with Meshuggah from the brand new "Koloss": >http://youtu.be/2B6xFu8v368 > >Gene Lake with Steve Coleman and Five Elements: >http://youtu.be/3n-vKZEfRr4
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2682055, Three more: Posted by Buck, Thu Apr-05-12 09:57 AM
Dennis Chambers with Mike Stern (Richard Bona on bass): http://youtu.be/P1FuEapPSJY
Martin Axenrot with Opeth: http://youtu.be/qrWqkWmKoJY
Vinnie Colaitua with Herbie Hancock (Nathan East on bass): http://youtu.be/J1xmRQAUOr8
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2682064, And just one more: Posted by Buck, Thu Apr-05-12 10:10 AM
Bill Stewart doing "Big Brother" with Larry Goldings and Peter Bernstein: http://youtu.be/eQuDAhMXwQA
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2682070, Since you already posted "Moby Dick" I'll do the original "Moby Dick" Posted by zuma1986, Thu Apr-05-12 10:18 AM
Cream's "Toad" no doubt in my mind is where Led Zeppelin got it from. Ginger Baker did his thing amazingly on this song (Still prefer "Moby Dick" though) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpGi8M44cP8
Mitch Mitchell in my mind is highly underrated as a drummer, doesn't get enough props. "Manic Depression" is blows me away every time. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYdq0ABH3so
And lastly I'll go with Robo's intro on Black Flag's "No More". Probably not the hardest thing ever but always thought it was done so cool, would be a great song to start any show. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsRRHnS4drM
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2682080, Dammit, man. i struggled and left Mitch off!!! Posted by Dstl1, Thu Apr-05-12 10:27 AM
but was about to put him in for that VERY song!! Hell, he showed his ass the entire "Are you Experienced" album.
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2682117, Everything he did with the experience was great but especially AYE? Posted by zuma1986, Thu Apr-05-12 11:17 AM
I mean even though Hendrix subdued the rest of the band after the debut, Mitch still had some great work like "Bold As Love', "Spanish Castle Magic" "Long Hot Summer Night" and "Come On (Let The Good Times Roll". Both nothing compares to "Fire", "Third Stone From The Sun" and "I Don't Live Today"
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2682087, RE: Gimme like your two or three favorite performances by a drummer. Posted by murph71, Thu Apr-05-12 10:37 AM
I got a few...
"I Wanna Be Free" Ohio Players....the drum breakdown going into Sugarfoots vocals are insane...
"Hot For Teacher"--Van Halen...Man, the drum intro sounds like a million angry Hells Angels bikers coming to rape and pillage...Alex was on some other shit...and he's showing off some real jazz chops to...
"777 9311"...The Time...yeah, its a drum machine...But Prince was a beast on that shit...and he and Jellybean could do it live too...crazy...
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2682114, I was going to say this one Posted by Dr Claw, Thu Apr-05-12 11:13 AM
>"777 9311"...The Time...yeah, its a drum machine...But Prince >was a beast on that shit...and he and Jellybean could do it >live too...crazy...
and props given to anyone who plays that one live. I've never heard Prince do that one live himself (on the drums... does Prince play the drums at his shows?) though.
His bandmates, yeah.
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2682125, RE: I was going to say this one Posted by murph71, Thu Apr-05-12 11:34 AM
Yeah...he's done it at a rehearsal....and I don't know if he still plays drums in his shows, but he used to...
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2682092, mines Posted by mistermaxxx08, Thu Apr-05-12 10:47 AM
i want to be free Ohio Players
sister cheryl Tony Williams
tighten up archie bell and the drells
brick house the commodores
sun goodess Ramsey Lewis and earth,wind and fire
got to give the people what they want the O'jays
dance to the music sly and the family stone
billie jean michael jackson
i missed again phil collins
low down boz scaggs
time outta mind steely dan
street life the crusaders
one nation under a groove Parliament funkadelic
pick up the pieces average white band
i'm black and proud james brown
can't you see tower of power
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2682107, Two words. Rhythm. Method. Posted by CaptNish, Thu Apr-05-12 11:10 AM
http://youtu.be/GHkucr1jJpQ
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2682124, Death Open Casket Posted by debo40oz, Thu Apr-05-12 11:30 AM
Not the craziest but for some reason I just like this performance. Especialy the break at around the 3 mnute mark.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbe9wKmggYM
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2682136, The drumming on that album is frustrating... Posted by Jakob Hellberg, Thu Apr-05-12 11:49 AM
I like it during the midtempo and slow sections and it's even groovy at times but it's WAY too robotic during the fast sections with barely a fill or accent anywhere. Add one of the worst snare-sounds ever and it gets a it annoying to listen to the fast sections when *that* sound is hitting you on the ehad constantly.
Anyway, the drumming as a whole on "Leprosy" works because it's a fairly raw and primitive old-school album but on the next album, "Spiritual healing", Billy Andrews drumming REALLY sounded passe. That album came out after Pete Sandoval (Morbid Angel, Terrorizer) had ripped everyones ass off in '89 so Death for once in their career sounded left behind, not just because of the drumming of course but it didn't help; I still find that album pretty weak. "Leprosy" fucking rips though...
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2682182, Chris Dave, Ballad Drummas 4 Life Posted by soulfunk, Thu Apr-05-12 12:49 PM
This joint right here secured his place at the TOP of my list of all time drummers:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzLgOrReMYw
For a more accessible Chris Dave performance, Help Somebody from the last Maxwell album:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvKARVeMJ7I
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2682415, Bro. Question murders Doin It Again Posted by Roadblock, Thu Apr-05-12 11:05 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuqVBM_8Cl4
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2682426, not bad for a girl Posted by rdhull, Thu Apr-05-12 11:52 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBkmwY4uOdY
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2682429, Omar Hakim 3:30 mark Posted by rdhull, Thu Apr-05-12 11:59 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgxy9lMbqJc&feature=relmfu
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