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Topic subjectEl-P's I'll Sleep When You're Dead...
Topic URLhttp://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=5&topic_id=2681771
2681771, El-P's I'll Sleep When You're Dead...
Posted by Stadiq, Wed Apr-04-12 03:53 PM

I'm late.

Damn late.

I bought this the year it came out, and it went completely over my head. I wasn't ready for it.

There were a couple of songs I learned to like...but I haven't revisited it in years.

I recently dusted it off to prep for the Killer Mike album...this dude is an effing genius. Like a mad scientist or something.

Its strange that how, over repeated listens, songs that at first sounded like a mess now sound melodic as f*ck.

From The Overly Dramatic Truth through to the end of the album is just an amazing sequence.

I always liked TPC and Up All Night...I left TPC off that recent "best album openers" thread...it should be on there.

The lyrics on Dear Sirs??? Shiiiit

Sorry I'm late to this and rambling at this point...

Anyone spin this lately?


What else should I check out by him? I've been told to stay away from Fantastic Damage...

but it looks like he has other random singles from compilations and stuff...

What should I peep next??

2681787, Same thing happened to me
Posted by cjr2221, Wed Apr-04-12 04:02 PM
When I first got it, I was like wtf is all this noise, you know?

Then a few months later I just played it and was like

O_O
woah.

One of my favorite Hip-Hop albums now.

Fantastic Damage is good imo.
Plus he has 3 wereallgoingtoburninhell megamixxx's
2681830, its a very complex record
Posted by Goose, Wed Apr-04-12 05:07 PM
I hated it in 07 outside of liek 2 songs.

then a couple more songs grew on me in 08

then a few more in 09

then last summer i played it from start to finish for the first time in a few years and there were 2-3 songs i didnt like but the rest was amazing.

i suspect it will continue to grow on me. it's really a brilliant record and a lot of it is probably still going over my head.

im excited for the new el p album that comes out in may.
2681842, Loved it when it came out, still love it now.
Posted by Adwhizz, Wed Apr-04-12 05:52 PM
I am fucking AMPED about his new one this year
2681852, RE: El-P's I'll Sleep When You're Dead...
Posted by spidey, Wed Apr-04-12 06:26 PM
GREATNESS...did you listen to the Can Ox ish? Those mega mix joints got tracks too...cat is truly on some next ish...
2682317, those mega mixes are instrumentals, right?
Posted by Stadiq, Thu Apr-05-12 05:25 PM
Just checking...

I haven't listened to Can Ox in years...Im going to dig that plus the Company Flow album up.

thanks
2682355, The first two albums had like 4 tracks a piece of him rapping.
Posted by Adwhizz, Thu Apr-05-12 06:42 PM
The third was purely instrumental
2682376, RE: The first two albums had like 4 tracks a piece of him rapping.
Posted by spidey, Thu Apr-05-12 07:42 PM
...you sure? Thought there were some lyrics on pt.3? Regardless, shit is dope...
2681871, I discover something new everytime i listen
Posted by 201cue, Wed Apr-04-12 07:12 PM
...and the record always sounds different to me everytime.
2681878, My favorite album that year and I got to see him live
Posted by Steve O Tron v2, Wed Apr-04-12 07:39 PM
As great as it is, Fantastic Damage still feels better to me. And the Overly Dramatic Truth is dope as fuck and sounds like T.O.J. part 2, but T.O.J. is just in a category of its own. Whoever told you to stay away from Fantastic Damage can go fuck themselves in all their holes and one entrance.
2681934, ^^^This.
Posted by amplifya7, Wed Apr-04-12 10:26 PM
>As great as it is, Fantastic Damage still feels better to me.

Fan Dam is one of the greatest albums i've ever heard, and his greatest achievement IMO.
2681956, Came here to say this.
Posted by thebadnegro, Wed Apr-04-12 11:17 PM

>Whoever told you to stay away from Fantastic Damage can go
>fuck themselves in all their holes and one entrance.
2682318, haha yikes. . . okay I will check it out then
Posted by Stadiq, Thu Apr-05-12 05:29 PM
2682362, haha. you'll get the reference soon enough...
Posted by Steve O Tron v2, Thu Apr-05-12 06:58 PM
2681938, habeas corpses and over dramatic truth
Posted by cbk, Wed Apr-04-12 10:35 PM
perfectly executed back-to-back tracks.

both about romance. first he's the good guy romantic. then he turns into a creepy asshole. and BOTH are convincing. THAT is some ballsy shit.
2683228, wow, i never thought of it like that
Posted by amplifya7, Sat Apr-07-12 08:01 PM
makes the two songs even more brilliant than i already thought they were
2681945, i hate "drive."
Posted by roaches, Wed Apr-04-12 10:49 PM
and the 9/11 conspiracy allusion at the end of "run the numbers" is kinda annoying (although far from the silliest thing i've ever heard in rap) other than that, it's a personal classic.

>What else should I check out by him? I've been told to stay
>away from Fantastic Damage...

it's not the most accessible album, but it's great. the rapping's not as good as on ISWYD. the beats are like sledgehammers. think about how "rebel without a pause" sounds compared to other rap of the same vintage. now imagine if the Everything Else did sound like "rebel without a pause" and that was the baseline the bomb squad worked against when trying to make your ears say "what the fuck?"

i don't think i explained that well:

late 80s rap : "rebel without a pause" :: "rebel without a pause" : fantastic damage

fantastic damage is nowhere near as insane as that, but it's in that direction is what i'm trying to say.

it has more of that ineffable "hip-hop" quality than ISWYD. there are more head-nodders.

>but it looks like he has other random singles from
>compilations and stuff...
>
>What should I peep next??
2682321, cool thanks...hold up is this
Posted by Stadiq, Thu Apr-05-12 05:30 PM

Roaches from hitemup.com like 10 years ago?
2682397, lol. I logged in as roaches once
Posted by Wonderl33t, Thu Apr-05-12 08:53 PM
when that hacker guy was posting people's passwords. He posted roaches's and I tried it, and it worked.

<--- ...watch out Mountain West?
2683204, whoa. when was this?
Posted by roaches, Sat Apr-07-12 06:28 PM
2683203, Yup! *tries to like Big Syke album*
Posted by roaches, Sat Apr-07-12 06:27 PM
2682401, Dam, i been sleepin on this for too long
Posted by Playa_Politician, Thu Apr-05-12 09:26 PM
I've picked it up plenty of times at the record store but always end up putting it down. I'ma cop this soon.
2682872, i know it's not popular opinion, BUT
Posted by astralblak, Fri Apr-06-12 08:25 PM
El-P is easily top 5 producers of the last 15 years:

Funcrusher Plus
Cold Vein
Fantastic Damage
I'll Sleep When Your Dead
this remix
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96e7ouGgUg8
this remix
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2fLvoQGu8o
and this remix
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPiU6-syL3o

and now this Killer Mike record and his new solo

shiiiieeeeeeeet
2683180, too dope of an album
Posted by spoons, Sat Apr-07-12 04:40 PM
i liked it immediately. it's definitely more melodic than fantastic damage, and not a disjointed and disorienting, which repulses a lot of people to his beats. they're both dope albums, but acquired listened for some people. a lot of it is very bomb squad based, though, especially emg, my favorite on the album.
2683252, RE: i know it's not popular opinion, BUT
Posted by spidey, Sat Apr-07-12 09:38 PM
...no doubt...
2683229, I'm gonna give this another try...
Posted by Dstl1, Sat Apr-07-12 08:06 PM
I listened to it once and couldn't finish. I can't recall liking one song.
2684151, you heard this new shit?
Posted by al_sharp, Tue Apr-10-12 03:07 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnZ82fUhOSw

this album's gonna rule.

and yeah like others said in here go listen to fantastic damage.


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