they never tour overseas... in fact out of all the years Dave Matthews has been around - selling out stadiums and state parks - he never toured once overseas. Last year I think marked his first time.

Phish from what I understand never does.

TTD's base is in Europe - not America... he stays in Europe to support that base - so again... when you guys are saying he doesn't connect, he doesn't sell, he isn't relevant - you must consider that you are speaking from an American platform and most of what he's doing you will miss. It's like most people in Europe have no idea who Dave Matthews is.

Perfect analogy actually.