What you
>see as a weakness (lack of a flamboyant personality) alot of
>people includeing me see as a strength.

It is important to note that I do not see it as a personal weakness, merely a musical one. How many straight forward, no nonsense rappers have been stars? We can prolly count them on two hands. That's a much harder road to take than that of people with personality. I liken it (like most things) to basketball - everybody wants solid guys on their team, but without people who can create on their own and take over you prolly aren't going very far. Ren's personality stood out in the group because of his approach but it was a hindrance as a solo artist.


>what I am getting at is was their some personal reason that he
>waited that long to enter the game as a soloist?

I honestly don't know. I assume that he didn't want the guys to think he was splintering off too, but Eazy put out a solo with SOC so its hard to say.


>from your vantage point the tipping point was the group
>breaking up. We agree. where I differ was that Ren wasnt out
>of options at that point. I dont understand why he waited so
>late to build his own brand? I mean I do understand it gets
>back to his loyalty.

And I assume this is true as well.

Somehow I cut your quote out above,
but I do find it interesting that he is nowhere to be seen on The Chronic. I'm going to chalk it up to Dre going for a complete clean break.