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Topic subjectbut the song is perfect.
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2673656, but the song is perfect.
Posted by Joe Corn Mo, Thu Mar-15-12 12:16 AM
>nothing about that song is original
>


as i said before on here,
i used to hate (hate) hip hop.
i've expanded my taste, but if i start playing the "that's not original" game,
then we start moving down a road I made a point to not go down again...

so I won't address the fact that they ripped off kool and the gang for that track.
and since rap is sort of based on sampling (stealing, if you wanna be a dick about it)
the rakim argument is sort of weird to make too...

but I really can't say you're wrong about your critiques.



i'll just say this.


even when I hated hip hop,
I recognized that summertime was about as close to perfection as a song can get.

even my parents loved it.

it captured a vibe.
a feeling.

it sounds like the best parts about being black.
can't front on that.

and it's universal in a way that brand new funk can never be.



naw bro. I see your point,
but your point doesn't mater b/c the song is perfect.... ripoffs aside.








>the music is a straight rip of Summer Madness with zero added
>to make the sample clever in any way, and Will's style is a
>obvious straight rip of Rakim (he never sounded @ all like
>that before...nor after). Back then biting was a huge offense
>and originality (stylistically anyway) mattered, and he bit
>that cadence so unrepentantly it makes me sick
>
>up to that point i was the world biggest JJ&FP apologist
>
>i *HATE* how much love that derivative mess gets as opposed to
>say "Brand New Funk"
>