a lot of hip hop artists
take the samples and create something new.

brand new.

this isn't a perfect example, but it's
the easiest one to explain...



kanye west took THIS classic bill withers song...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ROGOHNSEBs


THIS classic diana ross song...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VQtrMHuejY



and created THIS brand new record, that is pretty damn good.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyhHV8G0vpU




that is an entirely new drum patter that he created.
it sounds nothing like "use me."

the vocal sample doesn't sound like "the interm"




no, kanye can't play any instruments.
if you gave him a snare drum, he couldn't play that rim shot.

but he DID create a new song.
it's original.


everybody doesn't do what puffy did
to "i'm coming out."


kanye wrote a new song.




now you may say he loses points b/c
he couldn't play all that stuff if you gave him some instruments.

i call bullshit...
punk rockers could barely play.

and songwriters like michael jackson
can't play any instruments at all... they tell other people what to play, and they make it happen.




i don't know why you are being so stubborn about this.
hip hop producers can create a new thing.

they morph existing sounds
into something different.


again... do you REALLY think that the songs
on "it takes a nations of millinos to hold us back"
sound anything like the songs they samppled from?

dilla made shit unrecognizable.




it's not a pefect metaphore,
but punk rock and hip hop (used to) have so much in common.
i don't know why the analogy isn't made more often.




obviously... i obviously don't value the ability
to play instruments as much as you do.

all i care about is a good song.



i don't care that MJ couldn't play piano.
he was able to tell the piano player what to play,
and the end result was dope.




i don't care who's a better "technical" player.
jeff beck can play his ass off, but he has like maybe
one song that i kinda like.




so while i respect musicians, of course...
i don't care how hard it was
to get the effect that you got.


i want a song.


punk rockers took rudimentary musical ability
and turned it into something new.

hip hop producers (sometimes/ often times)
take even less musical ability to create something new.




i don't know how much clearer i can say it.





>punk rockers not playing well and other genre's players
>looking down on them is not the same as sampling....using the
>actual recording of other people's work..
>
>just don't see the connection.