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Topic subjectgot nothing against sampling.. but Kanye west ain't no quincy jones
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2669493, got nothing against sampling.. but Kanye west ain't no quincy jones
Posted by Warren Coolidge, Thu Mar-01-12 10:20 PM
or Gamble and Huff...

Puff daddy ain't Prince or Junie Morrison...

The thing is...when hip hop and R&B really started to mix together....after the inital so-called electro funk era you started seeing more and more sampling coming into that..

but say when Teddy Riley and the New Jack swing was the in thing...Ted had a muscicianship to it...lacing in some james brown drums or flashing some vocals in...it was used to inhance what was really just some synthbased funky R&B...

when the "one man band" mantle was held by Prince....Prince programed his own lin drums...or played the drums himself..he didn't sample someone elses..

Junie Morrison and Stevie Wonder before him played their drum lines...they didn't sample..and when they needed some horns...the hired horn players..or used orchestras and shit..

new jack swing was cool...Teddy ..certainly compared to now was really innovative.

it was different..it was new...but it still was playing by the same rules as the funk/R&B that had just proceeded it...

but when the rules and the template changed...you ended up with something that honestly wasn't as strong musically....

then looping a hot sample started getting the same cred that having original funky and creative arrangements.... that's just some backwards shit..

you got cats sitting in their rooms with fruity loops thinking they are doing something on par with the musicians and producers who are on the songs they are sampling......

the shit is just backwards man...