>>and uploading it to the internet?
>>
>>how would you compare that to sampling, bc i really
>appreciate
>>u stealing these 7 discs of james brown songs for me so i
>>didnt have to...
>>
>>wonder how his estate feels about those things as compared
>to
>>sampling?
>>
>>hmmmmmm....
>
>is "My Name" on anyone else's work.
>
>Apples and oranges.
>

hmmmmm....


>
>>
>>>I'm "mad" about anything....It's actually a cheap childish
>>>response to a different opinion, and you might want to try
>a
>>>different approach when discussing things with adults if
>you
>>>want to be taken seriously...
>>
>>so above it all, but a mere thief like the rest of us
>
>see above.
>
>>
>>>as far as examples of producers who rely on sampling
>viewing
>>>themselves as being on par with producers of the past who
>>used
>>>real musicians.... I mean both Kanye west and puff daddy
>>have
>>>made numerous comments saying that exact thing....
>>
>>source?
>
>
>pick I side....either what I'm saying is wrong, or no
>producers have made the claim. You can't have it both ways.
>
>

no, im askin u to cite 1 quote from a sample based producer where they have compared themself to a musician

>
>>
>>>but beyond
>>>that YOU and others in this post and on this board believe
>>>that those 2 forms of production are equal and the same.
>>
>>can you cite where anyone said this or are you making it up?
>
>Do you believe that sample based music is the same as original
>music....requiring the same skillset??? If you don't why are
>you debating the issue.
>

both are music, and each requires a unique and distinct skillset, and unique and different skillsets within each "discipline" as well

particularly to be GOOD

so my whole point is that only ppl w/ an anti sampling agenda compare the two, when they are distinct forms of art/making music, and do not need to be compared unless one has an axe to grind

i dont get ppl like u being SO OBSESSED with putting samplers in their place, WHY is it so important to you how some1 manifests their creativity?

sampling is an art that i and millions LOVE bc it speaks to us, who do u think u are to tear the art down bc of how it compares to traditional means of making music?

>>
>>can you link a post where any1 claimed they are "equal" or
>>"the same"?
>>..or
>>>even that sampling requires the same or an even higher
>skill
>>>set than producing music with real instrumentation.....
>>
>>again, who has said this?
>>
>>evidence please
>>
>>So its
>>>hardly that anyone is making these things up.... YOU
>believe
>>>it.
>>
>>can you find a quote where i said it tho? since u kno i
>>believe it i must have said it, right?
>
>If you don't believe it, your only response to my original
>post should have been "co-sign" or something to that effect.

no bc i vehemently disagree w/ any attempt to tear down and belittle an art form that I LOVE AND IS IMPORTANT TO ME

>>
>>>The fact of the matter is that I disagree with that point
>of
>>>view. Making music with real musicians requires a greater
>>>skill level..
>>
>>SO WHAT
>>
>>you are hung up on this but why does it matter?
>
>it matters to you because you are going out of your way to
>respond, then calling into question whether your believe what
>you are saying or not. Make up your mind.

clarity

your just talking me in circles for fun huh?

>>
>>>usually by multiple people than sampling. To me I
>>>think it's pretty obvious....but if others disagree, I have
>>no
>>>problem defending my point of view..
>>>
>>>I think the idea that sample based music is on par with the
>>>original from a technique point of view...
>>
>>have you done both?
>>
>>either?
>>
>>what does "on par" even mean when comparing apples and
>>oranges?
>>
>>>from the point of
>>>view of general acceptable standards in Black music.
>>
>>who defines this?
>>
>>you?
>>
>>"black musicians"?
>>
>>young black ppl created sampling and all its major
>>developments, from herc to dilla
>
>...that
>>>thought process is why the music in general is of a lesser
>>>quality and impact today...
>>
>>IN YOUR OPINION
>
>dude you honestly sound like the one whose mad. I'ma go ahead
>and end the debate with you because your resonses are getting
>pretty childish to be honest. We can just agree to disagree I
>guess...lol.

so basically youve never done either, you have nothin else to say so you just say "youre childish" to cover your L

OK

peace