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2662904, appreciation post for ?uestlove: the music historian. Posted by Joe Corn Mo, Thu Feb-16-12 10:23 AM
i mean... honestly, i am probablly a bigger fan of quest the music historian than i am of quest the musician.
which is not to say that he's not a beast of a musican. but he always has so much insight as a historian that anytime i youtube a performance,
i inevitably stumble onto an interview, and i end up watching all of his interviews.
i mean... i like to think that i know like, a little bit about music.
quest makes me feel like i don't know shit, like... at all.
like, honestly... i feel that i could live for another 60 yrs, dilligently pursuing information, and i wouldn't still wouldn't know as much about music as quest knows now.
i don't know how he has time to listen to all of this music and form an opinion about it.
like... dude's knowledge is like an encycolpedia. i so wish he'd write a few books.
i know he's busy, but just want a book from quest about music.
and to be honest, how many journalists really have a cool perspective on the artistic side of black artists? that's just a side you really can't hear unless you look for it.
yeah, i'm dick riding. so what.
questlove... if you're reading this... you're the man.
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2662909, yeah, when ?uest is in pundit mode Posted by Dr Claw, Thu Feb-16-12 10:28 AM
seeing him on The Grammys and Unsung as "one of those guys you're going to see if they're talking about music" is a cool thing
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2662911, It's cool, I'ma join in Posted by Ishwip, Thu Feb-16-12 10:33 AM
>yeah, i'm dick riding.
He's one of a handful of people who I'd listen to for hours speak on whatever.
If it was a book, I'd read it at every chance. On the toilet, at home with the game on in the background, on my lunch break.
If it was a dvd with just one camera angle, no production values, and was just him talking, I'd cop.
Hooray for ?uestlove. __ I don't like the beat anymore because its just a loop. ALC didn't FLIP IT ENOUGH!
Flip it enough? Flip these. Flip off. Go flip some f*cking burgers.(c)Kno
Allied State of the National Electric Beat Treaty Organization (NEBTO)
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2662919, grrrrrrrr Posted by imcvspl, Thu Feb-16-12 10:41 AM
>i mean... honestly, >i am probablly a bigger fan of quest the music historian >than i am of quest the musician.
Sure you qualify it after. But I still feel some kinda way bout this.
________ Big PEMFin H & z's █▆▇▅▇█▇▆▄▁▃ http://concretesoundsystem.com Mo'Nium - http://monium.tumblr.com/
"When the music stops he falls back into this abyss."
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2662923, quest the historian is what got me into quest the musician. Posted by Joe Corn Mo, Thu Feb-16-12 10:52 AM
that's the truth.
my first exposure to him was work w/ other artists. like, i'd really dig the drumming on a record, and i'd check the liner notes...
and quest was there.
so he was always like, in the periphary of music i liked. then i saw him on chapelle... which put a face w/ the name.
eventually i saw him do documentary talking about MJ, and that hooked me on his interviews.
and the more i heard him talk about (other people's) music, the more i got into his.
so now, i'm exploring his catalouge.
it's ass backwards, i know... but that's how i got into the roots to be honest.
still exploring their catalouge.
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2662921, I'd love to hang with that dude for a few hours, just playing stuff Posted by lonesome_d, Thu Feb-16-12 10:47 AM
for each other and shooting the breeze about it.
Any chance we could get him into a Mumu room?
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2662945, I'd share a story Posted by BrainChild, Thu Feb-16-12 11:41 AM
but there's a faction of people here that hate when I share my stories.
So I'll just say... If you ever get the opportunity to do that... DO IT. I've learned a lot just from shutting up and listening to him talk.
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2663004, fuck it... share your story. Posted by Joe Corn Mo, Thu Feb-16-12 01:23 PM
looks like the post is going wood anyway.
the only person here is me. i won't judge you. promise....
>but there's a faction of people here that hate when I share >my stories. > > >So I'll just say... If you ever get the opportunity to do >that... DO IT. I've learned a lot just from shutting up and >listening to him talk.
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2663024, http://siliconangle.com/files/2011/11/4c25237149f26.image_.jpg Posted by Ishwip, Thu Feb-16-12 01:35 PM
>the only person here is me.
http://siliconangle.com/files/2011/11/4c25237149f26.image_.jpg
__ I don't like the beat anymore because its just a loop. ALC didn't FLIP IT ENOUGH!
Flip it enough? Flip these. Flip off. Go flip some f*cking burgers.(c)Kno
Allied State of the National Electric Beat Treaty Organization (NEBTO)
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2663039, lol Posted by Joe Corn Mo, Thu Feb-16-12 01:48 PM
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2663105, Please share your story Posted by las raises, Thu Feb-16-12 03:33 PM
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2663170, Eff a faction please share n/m Posted by phemom, Thu Feb-16-12 05:27 PM
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2663289, share nigga Posted by AlBundy, Fri Feb-17-12 01:52 AM
*hands out torch lanterns and pitchforks*
------------------------- “The other dude after me didn’t help my case. It was just like…crazy nigga factory going on.” Dre makes no apologies for his own eccentricities. “I was young, and searching, trying to find myself,” he says. “Never did.”-- Andre B
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2663148, Anyone think that Posted by good5, Thu Feb-16-12 04:39 PM
Being a historian might sabotage an artist?
It's great to know where your roots are, but it could go too far at a certain point. I wonder how many times ?uest has thought "that's way too obvious" when they were actually good ideas that a non-historian would appreciate.
Or in the midst of trying to replicate a classic sound forget about the actual reason for making the song?
I guess it's the whole "effective" thing. Is it better to be ignorant of what has been effective music of the past and just throw what feels right at the wall?
On the flip side, I'm sure a lot of their best material would never have happened without the deep record collection and knowledge of engineering techniques.
It seems like a blessing and a curse to me.
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2663203, I wouldn't want dumb ass music, if that's what you're asking n/m Posted by johnbook, Thu Feb-16-12 07:13 PM
THE HOME OF BOOK-NESS: http://www.thisisbooksmusic.com/ http://twitter.com/thisisjohnbook http://www.facebook.com/book1
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2663209, nah. Posted by Joe Corn Mo, Thu Feb-16-12 07:37 PM
actually quest said in an interview that they have multiple versions of songs from albums that weren't released b/c everybody in the band didn't agree that that was the version to call the final version.
so i'm sure there are some very cool tracks in the vault that remained unreleased for reasons that you or i wouldn't pick up on.
but i wouldn't think any artist is hurt by having to broad of a musical palate to draw on.
that's like an saying an author would be limited by knowing too many words.
>Being a historian might sabotage an artist? > >It's great to know where your roots are, but it could go too >far at a certain point. I wonder how many times ?uest has >thought "that's way too obvious" when they were actually good >ideas that a non-historian would appreciate. > >Or in the midst of trying to replicate a classic sound forget >about the actual reason for making the song? > >I guess it's the whole "effective" thing. Is it better to be >ignorant of what has been effective music of the past and just >throw what feels right at the wall? > >On the flip side, I'm sure a lot of their best material would >never have happened without the deep record collection and >knowledge of engineering techniques. > >It seems like a blessing and a curse to me. > > > >
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2663292, no, more artists should be knowledgeable Posted by AlBundy, Fri Feb-17-12 01:53 AM
------------------------- “The other dude after me didn’t help my case. It was just like…crazy nigga factory going on.” Dre makes no apologies for his own eccentricities. “I was young, and searching, trying to find myself,” he says. “Never did.”-- Andre B
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2663565, RE: Anyone think that Posted by legsdiamond, Fri Feb-17-12 03:06 PM
>Being a historian might sabotage an artist? > >It's great to know where your roots are, but it could go too >far at a certain point. I wonder how many times ?uest has >thought "that's way too obvious" when they were actually good >ideas that a non-historian would appreciate. > >Or in the midst of trying to replicate a classic sound forget >about the actual reason for making the song? > >I guess it's the whole "effective" thing. Is it better to be >ignorant of what has been effective music of the past and just >throw what feels right at the wall? > >On the flip side, I'm sure a lot of their best material would >never have happened without the deep record collection and >knowledge of engineering techniques. > >It seems like a blessing and a curse to me. > > > >
interesting... kind of reminds me of math rock some guys do. It's genius but it sounds like shit to the average listener.
Not saying The Roots are shit but I knew a few cats who refused to do a hot 4 minute song because it was "boring" to them even though fans thought it was fire.
I used to have tons of arguments about artist who made the messenger more important then the message.
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2663225, i know his heart isn't really into it now Posted by forgivenphoenix, Thu Feb-16-12 08:52 PM
but if he wrote books or even a blog on music, (modern-day music or even the historical threads within contemporary music) i'd street team for him.
his opinions are very insightful and well-thought-out and well-informed. if he ever decides to part ways with The Roots for whatever reason, he could have a good twilight to his career writing i would believe.
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2663242, i respect his knowledge more so than the music he puts out Posted by mistermaxxx08, Thu Feb-16-12 09:53 PM
still waiting on a money track from dude, but he has talent, however his knowledge on music is Great and I admire that.
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2663308, i remember reading the liner notes from TFA Posted by CB_010, Fri Feb-17-12 02:53 AM
and thinking why don't other artists break their music or the process of their music down like this dude.. it just read away so easy and it was SO insightful to the point i just kept on copping more roots cd's just to read the liner notes.
then i religiously went on a hunt for every project quest was on.. in the process i picked up hints ranging from drum micing, snare techniques, jaydee's famous guitar loop till new music, old recordings, interviews and so on..
what i really want to see is some sort of docu/book about the SV/Roots/D/Erykah/Common recording periode or the Electric Ladyland era if you will..
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2663325, he has put himself in position to be something Posted by AlBundy, Fri Feb-17-12 04:56 AM
desperately needed in hiphop.
journalists dont have the authenticity.. musicians usually cant/dont communicate well
and he actually kicked it with the greatest beatmaker of all time.
------------------------- “The other dude after me didn’t help my case. It was just like…crazy nigga factory going on.” Dre makes no apologies for his own eccentricities. “I was young, and searching, trying to find myself,” he says. “Never did.”-- Andre B
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2663492, Great thread, I wanna see a book from ?uest Posted by DaKidFromHaiti, Fri Feb-17-12 12:38 PM
I think a book he would write would be similar to Zappa's autobiography, which would be great to me.
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