I'm with you. I don't know that I place the blame at the drummer, but each of their albums has gotten more boring and unambitious. I was so disappointed seeing them live on the Cookie Mtn. tour; a band that seemed so adventurous in studio played everything so safe live. At the time, I couldn't believe it, but given how many Macs I see propped open on stage these days, I guess I can appreciate them at least playing the songs live, which is better than most bands with that much sound do. 5-10 years ago the were one of my favorites and a band that I hoped would matter, and last summer I left Pitchfork before they played so I could beat traffic.