>But if we are talking about the problems facing R&B let's
>focus on the R&B part, not the crossover part. I'll say it
>again the crossover part is what has led to this road. You
>want to complain about what's happened to R&B - it went pop.
>Can there be great songs in that lane, absolutely. Are those
>songs at the core of what R&B is though - no.

At it's best the R&B has always had pop sensibilities. A lot of what you're trying to pigeon hole as the sole property of pop came from the black music world to begin with. Green Light isn't the least bit "beige"... it's black pop/R&B. Just like 90% of the shit we dug in the 80s.

>The problem with the pop thing is that it changes like the
>whether so if R&B is constantly chasing it, it's not going to
>go back to the bread and butter which is what you seem to want
>from the OG post.

What is the bread and butter of R&B though? Trying to wedge the pop elements out is what gave us neo-soul.... no thanks.

>The song you used is a perfect example of what I'm talking
>about. You didn't talk about the songwriting or the
>production. You talked about the video, 3K and having fun...
>shit gotta jet... lemme finish first.

Just so you know i ain't running from shit... The video worked because it fit the song and what it was all about. The song in and of itself is perfect for what it wants to be... and the production is outstanding. Not one goddamn thing wrong with that song imo


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