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2662912, RE: dude Please Prince took from Rick the stage and the studio
Posted by murph71, Thu Feb-16-12 10:33 AM
>Prince's debut album sounded like a Broke MJ, Broke EWF,
>broke Steive,broke Bee Gee, broke Sylvers, etc.. he was a cat
>with talent, but no direction and a dime a dozen act.
>it wasn't until "dirty Mind" that Prince found his voice,
>because he wasn't that kind of artist that he would ultimately
>become.

Why do you bring up stuff as if you are making an illuminating statement, Maxx? We all know this....We've all talked about this a million times...We know, we know...Slow down...


>Prince was very Green until "dirty Mind" and then he
>got polished with controversy and then found his Groove with
>1999.


Again, we know homie...We all agree with this...It has nothing to do with u claiming Prince took something from Rick's sound...Because it's just not true...He took a little of his stage show...he took a little of his showmanship...hell Rick even made some of P's stage show blacker...But sound? Nah...Prince was a shit load of genres and what came out was the Prince sound...


>however he checked out Rick's sound and stylings and Rick had
> already talked about his own "uptown" on the song
>"jefferson ball" jefferson avenue in buffalo wa the place
>to hang.
>
>listen to "cop and blow" and don't act like prince wasn't
>listening?
>
>listen to "dream maker" and tell me prince wasn't
>listening.
>
>the truth is it was a older brother little brother thang going
>on.
>
>prince was younger and played the game, but tell me when
>Prince started calling himself a "Slave" and dissing the
>industry if he didn't sound like you Know who Rick James?
>
>
>
>act like Prince didn't hear "garden of Love" which was out
>before "Around the world in a day?
>
>Vanity was industry Property and FYI after she left the
>purple camp in 83 guess which label she went to and signed
>with? Motown.
>
>so it ain't like she left Rick and went with Prince forever
>and ever and FYI Rick got over her, but Prince never did
>because all his female proteges practically all looked like
>her in some form or fashion another "L" for Prince.
>
>
>Rick made Prince step up his studio game as did Michael
>Jackson.
>
>but in different ways. Rick made Prince step up the funk
>
>Michael made Prince step up his versatility on record. act
>like "purple rain" wasn't Prince's attempt at a "thriller"??
>
>Prince took a while before he got his sound and voice
>together. that turkey took about 5 years before he got the
>Perm right and the dance steps right.

Do you actually read other people's post, homie? I and other people have made the same point...That Rick made Prince re-work his show and inject more of a "funk" dynamic (i.e. not sound, but showmanship, crowd interaction, stage set up, ect...Prince def. was schooled by Rick in that department...and it made him a better LIVE act...)into his concerts...

What no one will say is Prince jacked a "sound"...Dirty Mind was as far away from Rick as u can get...From the synths actually replacing the basslines much like P-funk to the crazy ass subject matter... What Prince should be thankful for is Rick was the bridge to his success...Rick was holding it down for R&B/funk...carrying it on his back...Prince def. benefited from this...

Bottom line...We are losing everyone...Rick is gone...MJ is gone...We just lost Whitney....The greats are leaving us too soon...

So do me a favor Maxx...While Prince is still alive and kicking, respect that man...You don't have to like him more than say MJ, Lionel, Rick, Freddie Jackson, or anyone else you want to trumpet...But for God's sake, be happy that the man is still alive and kicking...

Because when he's gone, what will you say then?