>Wow. I honestly think tho that Prince jocking Rick is a bit
>overstated. I think the only thing P got from Rj was his live
>show. How to really work the crowd and interact. His need
>for newwave funk almost directly relates to his time in Ny -
>as noted on the song Sister. Party Up we know is a Morris
>song so I think it's a bit of an overstatment, especially when
>you consider the fact that Controversy his next album - was
>completely different from DM.




Yes...you get it...Rick's true influence on P was his stage show...Before Rick, P's stage show was more like a rock show...His movement was a combination of Jagger and Iggy Pop...Rick made P look at his stage show and make it BETTER...More animated, more fluid and more interactive and BLACKER to an extent...

Musically though? Prince was on his own genre-mixing, sound creating shit...


>I think the issue Rick had with P was being upstaged on tour -
>Rick had NEVER had that happen. Then add the fact that P was
>not the friendliest cat during that period and Rick was down
>to party.
>
>Rick was a druggie, P wasn't (at that point). Rick was wild,
>Prince was very sterile in his personal life.
>
>I think P represented the future and Rick, a man's man didn't
>like what he saw.


Very true...



>Add Prince stealing Vanity from Rick and boom. Explosion.

Yep...

>
>Rick's statement about the Mary jane girls? Truth. I think
>Prince learned the more work you have floatling, the more
>bread you have coming in. Rick produced many - P would too -
>but that logic wasn't exclusive to Rick.
>
>Now the inclusion of new wave funk - debateable.
>P's first album had flashes of funk but pretty stereotypical
>70's funk - Average White Band, Sly etc.

Which is why Rick def. deserved more credit for his contributions...Dude held it down for a nice minute, carrying a genre on his back before Prince started to "get it" in the early '80s...

In short, Rick in his prime was as big as advertised...