>Are Jay-Z and/or Kanye not "See-thru" at times? Has Nas not
>had his moments
>of transparency? I'm not even putting Drake on their level at
>all, but this idea that
>one has to be authentic in order to make music that people
>like is just not the case,
>and we've seen it over and over again. . In fact, what this
>brings up in the sad
>realization that so few Hip-Hop artists were able to keep
>their integrity and
>endure through the ever changing trends and stayed "hot." And
>then we saw
>all of our heroes act weird, go out of character, make bad
>music (eg: Nas "Hate Me Now"
>Common "Sweet" and countless other examples) that was SEE-THRU
>to try
>to stay relevant but really just bit themselves in the ass.
>This is also why
>The Roots are such a rare exception and deserve credit. Has
>KRS not acted
>like an ass time and time again just to stay relevant? Isn't
>so much of Hip-Hop
>just all some kind of weird performance piece and an adoption
>of a persona
>that may or may not be who that person really is?
>


All of this is true...and whenever ANY artist does it...it's not good. so when Common and Jay and Nas and KRS get called out they rightfully deserve too. My point is that Drake is on that "bullshit" ALL the time and that is what people like. I'm not rocking with that. And there is a right and wrong way to do things. There is always a line. Are we going to be oblvious to the fact that Jay can make more authentic club hits than Nas? All day long on here we hear how Nas' radio attempts don't work because they come off forced right? and I agree with that...and that is the same theory I'm using when I say Drakes ENTIRE career and style comes off wack to me.


>Yes, authenticity is a plus and for me makes the music/art
>more convincing and stronger.
>But lets be honest about what Hip-Hop is now, its a big show.
>I'm not much of a Drake
>fan, I never bought his albums or even listened to them, but
>when I hear some of his
>joints on the radio I dig it and enjoy it for what it is. Does
>that make me blind? Am
>I going to be ashamed of that in 5 years? Hell no. I'm not
>invested in it. Do I take
>his persona seriously? Nah. But I like a lot of his songs.
>

Exactly, you're not invested in it. Most of his fans are. and whenever someone says "like it for what it is" tells me that they know it sucks and they're just saying "whatever".

>And this other thing you said about older people being right 9
>times out of 10, and
>that younger people should listen to them. . Well I have a
>fundamental disagreement
>with that idea. . Most of the great artistic movements
>certainly happened by the
>young shunning the old. There's great history and tradition to
>learn from, but its
>like the student passing the teaching idea, at some point you
>have to part ways
>with your influences, or even the so-called wiser generation,
>and start anew.
>

The student can't be the student that passes the teacher without learning from the teacher. I hope this young dude passes me in every aspect of life. I hope he has success and I think he should because he has so much knowledge to soak up. He has so much to learn from. But when younger people disregard what older heads tell them...that's when they usually fall and that's just how it is. I never said that the younger generation can't pass out the old ways and come up with great things because they do and that's how it works...but they still need to learn from somewhere.

>p.s. KRS-ONE is most definitely in my Top 5

without a doubt. and it's funny this whole conversation is stemming from someone saying Drake has better albums than KRS.

there is simply a change in the times. I have hit that point where I just can't mess with MOST of the younger music. it's not for me. and in my opinion...these artists are technically less talented in every way possible.