So we did it with albums....how about songs? And I'm sure we've done it before, but oh well.

From that Just Blaze post Bammer made...I'll have to say Jay-Z "Kingdom come" as a song is one of the most. I remember EVERYBODY being hyped from seeing Just Blaze's Myspace/Youtube video where he played the beat...and we were like "man....if Jay came back and made that song?????" He made it, and.................blah.

As a L.A. head, I'd say that Dr. Dre + DJ Quik "Put it on me" was the most disappointing song of that era, and it basically ended what was our best year since 96 in a way that foreshadowed the next few years to come, which were basically horrible for L.A. Rap. Song was so damn average-decent...listenable for sure, but wouldn't even be dope for a Hittman album cut. Quik spit dope on it, and Dre wasn't bad, but the beat didn't move me for shit...it was just a bust of a song for sure.

What are some others? Collabos btwn artists, btwn artist and producer, reunion songs, etc. etc.

on a similar note, both the JayZ/DJ Quik collabo and the recent DJ Quik/Ice Cube collabo were also wildly disappointing.

Also:
- Common/Mos Def - The Questions (moderately funny track, but not what you expect from two lyrical monsters)

I'ma try and think of more.

I wasn't expecting a whole lot from the Quik + Cube collabo since it is 2011, but I think it's a coo lil track.

I'd say that the Snoop + Ice Cube "LAX" was kinda disappointing too.

>I wasn't expecting a whole lot from the Quik + Cube collabo
>since it is 2011, but I think it's a coo lil track.

Right it's not bad. It's just I know Quik is still capable of magic (that album is full of it) and that track from two west coast legends, 20 years in the making, just felt anti-climatic. But I still like it. Just didn't feel like that's what we should've got from that type of collabo, no matter the year.


>I'd say that the Snoop + Ice Cube "LAX" was kinda
>disappointing too.

Yep. Definitely agreed.

Though I don't disagree that on paper if you were thinking of Common & Mos in 2000 over some Soulquarians, that's probably not what you would have conjured up.

>I say 'The Questions' works perfectly in the larger context of LWFC.

That's exactly my issue with it. I didn't think it really fit well at all. In the interest of full disclosure I actually like the song and laugh at a lot of the lines and stuff, I just thought it was out of place and...

>Though I don't disagree that on paper if you were thinking of
>Common & Mos in 2000 over some Soulquarians, that's probably
>not what you would have conjured up.

^^^that. It just seemed like a letdown considering the time period it was made and the people involved.

But again, I don't *hate* it, it's a cool, funny track. Just had different expectations I guess.

Ive always thought the song was dope, but some of the questions were bland.

IDK, I've thought that song was pretty much flawless for a long time now.


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. . .and then have low patience?"

Always thought that single line made the song absolutely and completely brilliant.

They were definitely aware of the potential of that collaboration. So, they just sidestepped the issue.

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Dre & Ice Cube 1994.

That shit was classic to me...shit has a wild ass energy to it.

I still love and recently added it to a best of cube cd I made for my car

I could see Nas is Coming before this for Dr. Dre letdowns.

for the record, was it the non-gangsta, need to be on my meds theme that threw you off? or something else entirely?

i thought they both sounded old and out of place on the track. i was surprisingly disappointed by it.

imo, it was a helluva setup for the Helter Skelter album that never materialized

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A TOM CROOZE PRODUCTION.

That should've been the most epic track of the modern era. Instead, shit's not even the hotest song on the album.

Especially with them having a Just Blaze beat

And it was a No ID beat.

For the record I liked Black Republicans too but I also agree it was somewhat of a letdown. Nas got Jay lyrically on both tracks.

but still wasn't classic like we wanted

Not as classic as we wanted.

>For the record I liked Black Republicans too but I also agree
>it was somewhat of a letdown.

I'm not saying it's a garbage song. Just that Those two on a track together for the first time after everything should have been a historical track, not just an also ran on the album.

We have a winner!!!!

unless you took issue with the mafioso angle taken with the sample, i don't know what else you could have asked for.

always confused why people were so down on it.

>unless you took issue with the mafioso angle taken with the
>sample, i don't know what else you could have asked for.

For Jay-z to stop pretending that he wasn't having a fanboy moment, that whole mini monologue at the start of the song just screamed oh my god I can't believe I'm on a song with Nas, but I'll pretend like I haven't been trying for my whole career to make this moment happen to me.


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And thought jay came off much better than nas, though I like nas' verse too. Also, I love the beat and jays' intro.

yeah, that ish was super underwhelming. the beat was alright, i think nas sort of came off, and thought jay kind of phoned it in.

this is just from what i remember, though. haven't heard this track in a minute.

beat is ass. Only track I don't like on Da Drought 3 either cause of that beat


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Far Far Far Greater. I never play Black Republican but man that Success...

With them both being rappity rappity dudes coming off of critically acclaimed debuts I expected bars on top of bars on top of bars. Instead we got a "chilling at a bar" type tune. Maybe it was a too clever for their own good take on the "lyricist's lounge" theme, but it isn't a good song by any stretch.

Too lyrical assassins at the peak of their powers put together a boring "club jam" with a chorus jacked from the Cover Girls. Not at all dope.

after years of waiting for this track and hearing his acapella on Def poetry jam, the released song was really shitty (mostly the beat)

i guess snippets can be *that* misleading lol.. that shit was so lame

And all you get is some adlibs or a weak hook.

It's also funny to me when I read excitement when people see "Mixed by: Dr. Dre", and the song is poop in general.

out that were labeled as "Produced by Dr. Dre" and barely any of them were...he wasn't even the "producer who used a ghost producer" for it, some had no affiliation with him, LOL.

And that shit sold. Ughh

Let me say first that I actually like bop gun, but it wasn't what I was looking for from cube at the time.

11 1/2 minutes of Cube saying Mother Goose rhymes while George Clinton chews gum (?) and lazily sings One Nation Under a Groove

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A TOM CROOZE PRODUCTION.

and it was some bullshit because it was basically interpolating "One Nation Under A Groove"

Yeah.

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A TOM CROOZE PRODUCTION.

that's pretty much where Cube lost me with this song. Couldn't do it then, can't do it now.

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I hated that entire album. That was pretty much the end for Ice Cube for me.

and didn't hear it until years later, the song isn't a disappointment for me. It's not a great song by any means, but it's harmless and actually somewhat entertaining/amusing to throw on every once in a while


Tear the roof off this mothafucka like we did last night, son...

nope

I was among those who felt like Ras had a chance to be the next big thing. Especially back then when a lot of fans believed the idea that "dumbing down" your music could translate to commercial success. Ras had the skills, personality, and charisma to win. He just needed some cosigns and the right single. As the cosigns mounted, Priority Records decided to go all in on Ras's first single. The song had significant buzz before it dropped because it was rumored he would be using the beat from the ballroom dance sequence in the "Been There Done That" video. He was able to secure a Dre verse, a Mack 10 hook, and a "Titanic" themed video for this single. The track wasn't actually produced by Dre, but at that point everyone associated the beat with him anyway. And even though I considered Mack 10 to be a wack mc, he had a pretty cool voice which fit the hook perfectly. Oddly enough, it was Ras who failed to hold up his end of the bargain. His verses are entirely forgettable outside of the horribly corny John Elway simile which was intended to be the climax of the song. In the end the song sunk just like the Titanic, and Ras's dreams of commercial success went right along with it.

But that 98 period was like the worst by far for L.A. We came back STRONG in 99 and held it down til 01, and we were on point for most of the decade until 97. So that could be part of it, just bad timing...but yeah, that song seemed to have AMAZING potential. And why the hell did I never put it together that it was the beat from the "Been there done that" video????

Also...I hated that somebody made the 2Pac remix and that was the ONLY version I was ever able to find.

...originally conceived. It was originally supposed to be the first single from the "Golden State Warriors" project, the Ras, Saafir, and Xzibit. I think it was supposed to be called "Heat," and the video was going to be a reenactment of the shootout on the L.A. streets from the film of the same name.

I'm guessing at some point Priority envisioned it as a hit single to set of "Rasassination," somehow got Dre to rhyme on it, and threw on label-mate Mack 10 for good measure. I'd rather have heard Saafir and Xzibit (both on a tear at the time) on it.

aka the beginning of the end

>aka the beginning of the end

Nah, that song was alright...It was kinda a throwback to bonita applebum type shit.

What shoulda been epic was just decent.

one
k. orr

it sounded rushed. i know Pac wanted to get the record out as soon as he got released, but they really would have been better off taking their time as alot of the songs on that album haven't held up well over time.

Wait, for real for real??? And you're not talking about "Wanted dead or alive" - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2qL-L-8vrI but "Ain't nothin but a gangsta paaaarty?"

That shit is CLASSIC...Top three for Pac songs in L.A. clubs, arguably #1. No way in the world it was disappointing to me....classic lines, great hook, great beat,

>Wait, for real for real???
the only thing epic about the song were the two artists involved and the fact that pac had just got out.

I never heard that song as disappointing

The beat was super plain and lyrics were corny. Big let-down.

You see favorite/likable artist + produced by DJ Premier, then feel like someone pushed you down the stairs.

that beat needed to switch up and not every MC spit as good as they usually do.

>that beat needed to switch up and not every MC spit as good
>as they usually do.

Yeah...it's meh. Rocky and Krit are good...that's about it.

i think it was recorded before off the wall?

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I still got the cassette tape!

*Waiting for that new roots album*

'75 bars' leaks

OH SHIT

questo hypes the album up using words like political and dark

first single, 'birthday girl' leaks


*half the board hangs itself in dispair*

sounded like a throw-a-way, unreleased mp3 from his stash to me. thought he just threw that track out there just to give the fans something new to talk about. that shit is all over the radio and shit. can't believe it. that was the last joint that had me scratching my head

>sounded like a throw-a-way, unreleased mp3 from his stash to
>me.

The shit is always so hyped and I hear it and I'm always like meh.....

hell, everything he's done the past few albums

shit is a wack ass jack of jade's don't walk away

regardless of how you feel, do you know how much use i got out of Trugoy saying "motowwwwwwwwwwn" near the end of that record?

sheeeeeeeeit.

The best song on a shitty album, but it still disappoints..

I was expecting pure madness, and while it ah-ite...its still "ehh"





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