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2639839, So, Jesse Johnson is splitting from the Original 7even, eh ?
Posted by Silky1, Thu Dec-15-11 01:35 PM
From his Facebook status:


Jesse Johnson

I don't really think I'll be performing with the Original any more! We simple don't see eye to eye on anything. Love the guys, but I feel in my heart it's "Time" to walk away while we're all still friends. Peace be with you all and them all. PeaceLove Jesse Johnson

Damn, what happen ? Are they really not getting along ?

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2639848, The better the musicians are in a band, the more they want things
Posted by c71, Thu Dec-15-11 01:42 PM
to go their way (songs to be arranged/constructed/produced/mixed according to their musicial ideas). This usually leads to people quitting/bands breaking up.

The sad reality of bands. Talented people REALLY want to "stick to their guns" about creative issues.
2639875, Yep. When you have too many folks who know....
Posted by The Wordsmith, Thu Dec-15-11 02:33 PM
...what they are doing or at least think they know what they're doing, clashes are bound to happen.



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2639855, he wrote recently that he'll be with d'angelo on his tour n/m
Posted by mustardy, Thu Dec-15-11 01:57 PM
2639874, Oh ? Has it progressed from "in talks" ?
Posted by Pete Burns, Thu Dec-15-11 02:32 PM

What the blood claaat ???
2639995, oh, so he ain' got no job.
Posted by kysersozey, Thu Dec-15-11 07:30 PM
2640145, if he's going on tour, doesn't that mean he HAS a job?
Posted by Joe Corn Mo, Fri Dec-16-11 11:03 AM
lol
2640147, WHOOOOSH!
Posted by AFKAP_of_Darkness, Fri Dec-16-11 11:11 AM
2640148, oh i get it now.
Posted by Joe Corn Mo, Fri Dec-16-11 11:13 AM
dammit.

i hate it when i miss the joke. lol
2639879, Dang. 1st the Fat Boys break up...
Posted by HIM, Thu Dec-15-11 02:39 PM
smh
2639964, I Knew It Was Too Good To Last,,,,,
Posted by Harlepolis, Thu Dec-15-11 06:10 PM
2639977, Condensate >>>>> Love Letters
Posted by OldPro, Thu Dec-15-11 06:53 PM
I know Jesse don't want to hear it but he's better with the fellas at this point.

*shrugs*

Oh well, dude has always seemed temperamental.
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2640006, man... Condensate >>>>>>>>>>> .....
Posted by Dr Claw, Thu Dec-15-11 08:18 PM
I dunno what's going on with Jesse
but this really is a blower, so soon after such a great album.

I hope they can work it out.
2640142, I've always sensed a lot of similarities between Jesse & Prince
Posted by OldPro, Fri Dec-16-11 10:57 AM
It's no wonder P didn't fuck with him the same way he did a lot of those under his thumb... Jesse has always been somewhat of a loose cannon. And like P, Jesse can make rash decisions that don't seem all that well thought out.
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2640150, RE: I've always sensed a lot of similarities between Jesse & Prince
Posted by c71, Fri Dec-16-11 11:20 AM
>It's no wonder P didn't fuck with him the same way he did a
>lot of those under his thumb...

isn't it well known Jesse was carried off stage and covered in food in the infamous Revolution vs. Time food fight?

I'd hate to think how Prince handled err'body else if that's what Jesse got.

Maybe that was the start of Jesse's problems with the whole thing.
2640178, I'm not talking about playful shit
Posted by OldPro, Fri Dec-16-11 11:57 AM
I think P knew early on Jesse had no strings to pull
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2640209, well, he sort of did
Posted by Dr Claw, Fri Dec-16-11 12:18 PM
>It's no wonder P didn't fuck with him the same way he did a
>lot of those under his thumb... Jesse has always been somewhat
>of a loose cannon. And like P, Jesse can make rash decisions
>that don't seem all that well thought out.

P ganked two songs of his and gave him "credit" on the label for other unrelated ones...

but yeah, I think Jesse didn't get the worst of it (Jimmy Jam reportedly did, out of that bunch), because he threatened Prince a lil bit; Morris was the one who found him out in Rock Island, he didn't even play anything for Prince to get in the band, then it turned out he was a monster on the axe...

and you know that a dude looking like Jesse, with his general demeanor, playing the guitar like that in that era, probably was pissin' off Prince on the low for other reasons... LOL


2640367, as soon as the album did such meagar numbers I knew it wouldn't last
Posted by Bombastic, Fri Dec-16-11 04:20 PM
Sucks, particularly since the album was one of my favorites from the year & I really looked forward to seeing the OG7 onstage together in person for the first time.
2640372, I hope they weren't counting on it to blow up
Posted by OldPro, Fri Dec-16-11 04:30 PM
in this day and age it was almost a given it wasn't going to move many units. I bought a few copies just to support but you know there is a gang of folks out there bumpin it who never bought.
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2640377, it'd seem downloading wouldn't be as much a factor with their audience
Posted by Bombastic, Fri Dec-16-11 04:41 PM
But even for an indie it sorta went under the radar (P's not letting use the name was an obvious factor as well) considering they'd finally done their own album for the first time in well....ever together & it did like 7K out the gate (which is probably lower than any did on their own).

It's a shame but I think that had an impact on the group's future for sure.

It's tough to get seven vets on the same page anyway but without a financial incentive it might not be feasible.

I for one love the shit out of this album almost as much as I do anything they've done.
2640025, Jesse had more to add (Facebook swipes)
Posted by ZooTown74, Thu Dec-15-11 09:23 PM
Some of us are born alone, live alone, and when the time comes die alone! I've always and always will be a fucking loner. Not ALONE, but a loner, a lover of solitude. I really isn't that serious and we have Way More Important Pressing matters in the World to be concerned about.
LovePeace,
Jesse Johnson


It is really me Jesse Johnson formerly of a few fucking bands. But I understand, there are so many pretenders, but it's really me. I feel really bad for thevpeople who were looking forward to seeing me with The Time or whoever, but you will see and hear me especially hear me forever! Music never dies, people do. Please excuse my spelling here and there I'm typing with one finger on my iPad.
LoovePeace,
Jesse Johnson Bey ♥ (Birth name, I rarely use it in the entertainment world)

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Yeah, well, if you think you can stop it, do so.
2640481, that shit pissed me off
Posted by MME, Fri Dec-16-11 11:13 PM
he's such a fucking drama queen.
2640028, How was Jesse's solo material?
Posted by -DJ R-Tistic-, Thu Dec-15-11 09:27 PM
2640201, It's hit and miss
Posted by Dr Claw, Fri Dec-16-11 12:11 PM
more hit than miss, especially in the beginning.
He came fresh off the Time and basically proved through his own works, and other acts he produced... that he wasn't just some guy holding a guitar for Prince. His music wasn't as deep as Prince's, but it definitely satisified the ears of fans who wanted Prince to at least throw them a bone on the R&B side of things.

I liked his last album, which came out last year, called Verbal Penetration. He hadn't released anything in like ... 14 years before that. Like most double albums it does tend to have some filler, but his D'Angelo-like tunes and his brief foray into jazz guitar were surprising to hear.

I think if that last album came out in the "Voodoo" era he definitely would have shocked a lot of people.
2640146, Simply put JJ is being an opportunist as always...
Posted by Artful Dodger, Fri Dec-16-11 11:10 AM
He's always been jealous of Prince's success, control, and power.

Is he a talented guitarist? Yes... but quite honestly a limited songwriter by comparison to Prince. A good one, has a lane and a pocket - but he never compared to Prince. The first two Time albums alone prove that.

To me, he's being the typical opportunist. The album didn't do well - there was no follow up tour (why I'm not sure) and honestly what was he comitted to? A few shows here and there? That being said, bounce while the iron is slightly hot again. Seems like a sellout move to me.

He knew he had a solo record coming and then the whole D thing - which honestly isn't a good look. D needs to develop his own sound a little further - borrowing from the Minneapolis sound? I dunno.
Not a good idea. I always thought Pino was a poor choice in a bassist, he's good, he just has no identifiable chops or touch. Anyone could play his parts.
2640936, So we're clear, you just said Pino had no chops or feel.
Posted by bski, Mon Dec-19-11 10:06 AM
And that anybody could have played his parts.

Just wanna be sure before I file you in the nutjob category.
2640169, in the documentary I got the vibe that JJ is a bit of an asshole
Posted by mr_graff, Fri Dec-16-11 11:50 AM
Everyone else was chilling and seemed to be happy to be back together but Jesse was looking somewhere between angry and bored. Didn't he get kicked out of the group after they recorded Pandemonium? Maybe his personality is just too difficult to work with for an extended period.
2640184, Yep - cause if you think about it he's recently put out solo albums
Posted by Artful Dodger, Fri Dec-16-11 12:04 PM
for a second there there was a bit of a celebration of his work in the 80's...

he's always had a chip on his shoulder

he's always felt as if he deserved more, that he could have had a similar if not better solor career than prince...

but Jessie is in dreamland.

He's a great guitarist no doubt.
You can tell he was trying to overpower the band in some of the more recent shows as he was the star attraction as much as Morris was and as a result the shows were very heavily guitar driven.

2640191, That said there's no doubt that new album wouldn't be half as good...
Posted by OldPro, Fri Dec-16-11 12:07 PM
minus Jesse.

he put his foot in about 75% of those songs
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2640203, right... Jesse really puts asses in the seats
Posted by Dr Claw, Fri Dec-16-11 12:13 PM
and even though he definitely seemed to be brooding and mysterious on stage, I figured that was his act nowadays.

He's one of the major cogs in why The Time worked... people weren't used to seeing regular looking brothers shredding the axe like he did when they came out.

2640220, I've never understood this about Jesse
Posted by mr_graff, Fri Dec-16-11 12:28 PM

>he's always felt as if he deserved more, that he could have
>had a similar if not better solo career than prince...

I've read this from other places as well but can't recall a direct quote from him putting himself on the same level as Prince.

Jesse had a solid solo career. I was pleasantly surprised with Verbal Penetration. I've always thought he was very underrated as a guitarist. Loved the way he brought Sly back on "Crazay." But Prince smokes him when it comes to songwriting, sonic diversity, singing and overall vision.

Hell, I still remember buying the "Love Struck" single and the clerk said "dude is trying to be Prince."

If Terry, Jimmy and Morris, who all had more success than Jesse, could put their egos aside and do this project I'm not sure why Jesse feels he should be running things.
2640227, I wouldn't say Morris had more success than Jesse
Posted by OldPro, Fri Dec-16-11 12:35 PM

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2640238, hasn't Morris been steadily working since the 90s?
Posted by mr_graff, Fri Dec-16-11 12:51 PM
I'm not sure Jesse has had consistent work. Did Jesse have more hits in the 80s? I'm not sure. Plus I admit I'm factoring in Day's Hollywood/acting gigs. Not that they were blockbusters but it was enough to keep his name out there.

2640241, Yeah not even close
Posted by OldPro, Fri Dec-16-11 01:02 PM
>Did Jesse have
>more hits in the 80s? I'm not sure.

Not sure where these all charted but as far as "money" cuts Jesse had more

Morris: Oaktree, The Character, Color of Success, Fishnet & Love Is a Game

Jesse: Be Your Man, Free World, I Want My Girl, Can U Help Me, Baby Let's Kiss, Crazay, Love Struck, She I Can't Resist, Every Shade Of Love, I'm Just Wanting You.

Plus Jesse has those side projects like Da Krash Tamara and The Seen and other production work with Janet, Paula Abdul and Cheryl Lynn.

> Plus I admit I'm factoring
>in Day's Hollywood/acting gigs. Not that they were
>blockbusters but it was enough to keep his name out there.

Jesse did some soundtrack work around this same time... Pretty In Pink, Action Jackson, Another 48, The Breakfast Club.. might be a few more I can't remember right now.

But yeah man overall I'd have much rather have Jesse's career.


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2640304, RE: So, Jesse Johnson is splitting from the Original 7even, eh ?
Posted by Strangeways, Fri Dec-16-11 02:31 PM
he seems too egotistical to stay in the time....I knew something like this would happen.....it all has to do with ego.
2640305, I was hearing that he was going to roll with D' this time around...
Posted by Warren Coolidge, Fri Dec-16-11 02:33 PM
but I think it would have been cool not to close the door on the Time.....

in the words of Theolonius Monk.. "Do both"

2640311, RE: So, Jesse Johnson is splitting from the Original 7even, eh ?
Posted by Strangeways, Fri Dec-16-11 02:40 PM
i think its more to do with jesse's ego and money.
2640444, Hol' Up, you can't just blame this on Jesse. From what i read, it
Posted by Silky1, Fri Dec-16-11 08:22 PM
>i think its more to do with jesse's ego and money.

........had to do with "all" of them not getting along. Not just Jesse, but all of them. All Jesse did, was speak on it. So,let's not just pin this on him.


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He was cultivating a fine nigga farm (c)Goldmind.

R.I.P Jamie Hubley
2640517, RE: So, Jesse Johnson is splitting from the Original 7even, eh ?
Posted by j_bhadra, Sat Dec-17-11 08:25 AM
What a punk...

The guy's nothing more than a guitarist in a band...

He isn't a strong composer, his lyrics are silly and he's got zero charisma on stage...

It's obvious that he is still pissed that he didn't blow up...

I hope the man sorts all of these issues out - artists need an EAP.
2640667, Wait... less than a month ago Jesse was the "Weapon X"...
Posted by supablak, Sun Dec-18-11 01:07 AM
of The Time up in here (the Lesson)

Now y'all hate his guts?

You know Jam & Lewis getting the lion share of whatever was coming off of the album "Condensate"

the Tonight Show just ain't what it used to be anymore.
But guess what? They did it. Jesse was there.

You know Morris would rather get the lion share off of touring with "Half-Time".

You know Jesse is better off supporting D'angelo in Europe as far as elevating his profile.

You know the Time would be better off opening for D'angelo in the States.

start thinking

s.blak
Pink Panther
2640693, dogg... no one in here is on that shit
Posted by Dr Claw, Sun Dec-18-11 07:34 AM
>Now y'all hate his guts?

you're talking about a heavily pro-Jesse and still pro-Jesse camp in the Lesson...many agree that Jesse was the highlight of the album, and one of the reasons why it worked.

most prolly wanna see how this D'Angelo thing shakes out, and see the 7ven get back on their grind afterward.

(largely because it ain't Jesse the Lesson is worried about not showing up...)
2640847, lmao, he's even talking about a US tour like it's ready to roll
Posted by Bombastic, Sun Dec-18-11 11:40 PM
>
>(largely because it ain't Jesse the Lesson is worried about
>not showing up...)

2640854, Oh I forgot some of y'all act like D'Angelo is y'alls deadbeat daddy
Posted by supablak, Mon Dec-19-11 12:13 AM


s.blak
voodoo
2640863, nah, D's more like my cool 2nd cousin I dont see or expect anything from
Posted by Bombastic, Mon Dec-19-11 12:50 AM
Dude's a tattoo artist/rocker/'traveler', always appreciated chopping it up with his crazy ass.

He was the first dude who played me 'The Show' in my uncle's station wagon radio during a family reunion when I was about eight years old.

That was a Top 5 'eureka' moment in terms of instilling my lifetime love for rap music.

If he shows up at a family function I'm at, I'll give him a pound, ask him how he's doing, talk about music like we used to, have a few laughs & be glad to have seen him.

But I ain't seen cuzzo in about 8 or 9 years, don't have any contact information or plans to run into him anytime soon.

I'll see him when I'll see him, sorta like I'll catch a certain soul singer's 'US Tour' if he actually books a date in LA & shows up.
2640878, If it don't pertain to you cool
Posted by supablak, Mon Dec-19-11 02:25 AM
but the "Jesse is a punk" contingent and the "D'Angelo is a lazy smack head" schitt around here is so extra,so speculative, and most of all so butthurt, it only reveals how desperate R&B fans are for ANYTHING with a shred of relevance.

s.blak
standing on the verge of getting it on
2640900, you say this like it's an indictment of R&B fans
Posted by AFKAP_of_Darkness, Mon Dec-19-11 07:45 AM
>it only reveals how
>desperate R&B fans are for ANYTHING with a shred of
>relevance.

rather than of the R&B industry
2640902, right...
Posted by Dr Claw, Mon Dec-19-11 08:02 AM
>rather than of the R&B industry

though the response seems to be slightly mixed, just look at the reaction to that SWV song. Granted, given the calendar it's about time that '90s nostalgia started in earnest, but that you can't even get many tracks that satisfy people in the mainstream in the way that song does...



...shit, I'm about to start railing on about the downfall of Nike any minute now, aren't I?
2640931, how about fuck both
Posted by supablak, Mon Dec-19-11 09:54 AM
fans and the industry should go on strike.

all them niggas bitter and hate music and Black people*


s.blak
take a plane


*with few exceptions
2641003, What a worthless instigating piece of shit you are
Posted by OldPro, Mon Dec-19-11 12:38 PM

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2641266, Yo', bitch nigga... Why don't you just shut the fuck all the way up
Posted by supablak, Mon Dec-19-11 10:46 PM
Fuck you most of all hoe ass nigga

s.blak
get stomped bitch
2641281, lol....can't wait to see what pleas you cop when D' brings it
Posted by Warren Coolidge, Tue Dec-20-11 12:06 AM
on this tour and on the new release..

that will be entertaining.
2641008, who?
Posted by Mr.Ouija, Mon Dec-19-11 12:44 PM
2650605, The fellas finally released a statement regarding Jesse
Posted by OldPro, Wed Jan-18-12 05:43 PM
Any ideas on who would be a good replacement?

ORIGINAL 7VEN STATEMENT REGARDING
JESSE JOHNSON

FROM:
MORRIS DAY
JIMMY JAM
TERRY LEWIS
JELLYBEAN JOHNSON
MONTE MOIR
JEROME BENTON

Before we address the topic on most everyone’s mind, please let us do two things.

First of all let us begin by wishing everyone a Happy New Year! Although our good wishes may be a bit tardy in coming they are nonetheless sincere.

Second let us thank everyone for their overwhelming support of our Original 7ven project.

This project never would have happened without your continued encouragement and blessings.

Now to address the rumors regarding Jesse’s departure from the band.

On the morning of December 15th we were awakened to the news that Jesse had issued a message on his Facebook page which said the following:

"Hello Babies, I don't really think I'll be performing with the Original 7 (or The Time if your nasty) any more! We simple don't see eye to eye on anything. Love the guys, but I feel in my heart it's "Time" to walk away while we're all still friends. May Peace be you.


PeaceLove,

Jesse Johnson Bey"

We were all surprised to read Jesse’s Facebook that morning because the 7 of us had spent nearly 3 hours on a conference call the afternoon before, and his desire to leave was not part of the discussion at that time.

On that call we were in fact making plans for the future. And while not everyone was in total agreement on all points, we felt like everyone was committed to this project for the long haul.

Out of respect to Jesse, and because of the holidays we decided it best to take a moment to catch our breath before making any decisions about our future.

While we know that this “silence” was frustrating to everyone who cared (mostly our fans), we believed a few weeks wasn’t too much to ask after 30 years of making music together. While we don’t have all the answers, we have come to the following conclusions:

1. We respectfully accept Jesse’s announcement to not perform with the Original 7ven. His desire to walk away “while we’re still all friends” is admirable, and we support and wish Jesse nothing but the best in all his future endeavors.

2. Jesse will not be “replaced” because there is no way to replace a family member, but we will begin the search to fill the now empty guitar spot in the band. Stay tuned.

3. While we’re not prepared to disclose any detailed plans at this time, please know that “the remaining 6ix” remain committed to this project for the long run and we look forward to seeing each and every one of you on the road this year!

In the meantime we thank YOU our fans for your continued belief, patience, support, and love.

Best,



Mo, Jam, T, Bean, Monte & Rome
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2650612, i wondered if they'd call themselves the Original 6ix.
Posted by SoWhat, Wed Jan-18-12 05:51 PM
or 6ix Originals. or just go back to Morris Day & the Time.

2650659, The Remaining 6ix
Posted by nipsey, Wed Jan-18-12 09:39 PM
I guess this pretty much confirms that Jesse is a nut job.
2650669, maybe Dez Dickerson or Andre Cymone will take the gig....
Posted by Warren Coolidge, Wed Jan-18-12 10:07 PM
2650671, speaking of Andre Cymone
Posted by Dr Claw, Wed Jan-18-12 10:13 PM
OldPro, your wish is about to come true. Kelly's Eyes... in CLEAR quality
2650949, Yeah man, can't wait
Posted by OldPro, Thu Jan-19-12 04:45 PM
>OldPro, your wish is about to come true. Kelly's Eyes... in
>CLEAR quality


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2651022, Wait, what's happening?
Posted by ZipZapZopZoup, Thu Jan-19-12 08:25 PM
Reissue?
2650916, thats what I was gon' say...
Posted by tully_blanchard, Thu Jan-19-12 03:35 PM

for house goodness:

http://www.djrsenal.com

http://soundcloud.com/dj-rsenal

ahhh, why the hell not:
www.facebook.com/djrsenal
www.twitter.com/djrsenal
2650923, glad to hear they going to continue
Posted by c71, Thu Jan-19-12 03:48 PM
yeah!
2650930, We were giving Flash a lot of passes...
Posted by revolution75, Thu Jan-19-12 04:06 PM
Last month with his statement
Thats some fucked up shit to do...considering all of the brotherhood crap that dude was talking.
Me and Claw rapped about this yesterday and my genie wish would be for prince to take the guitar spot and do his whoa whoa everybody sing the song now backing vox...lol
How crazy would that be??
Of course that ain't gonna happen but damn that would be outta sight!!
2650932, i'd want that band to cover 'Shockadelica' too.
Posted by SoWhat, Thu Jan-19-12 04:09 PM
LOL
2650938, RE: i'd want that band to cover 'Shockadelica' too.
Posted by revolution75, Thu Jan-19-12 04:20 PM
That would be sooo ill!!
2650947, Too good to ever come true
Posted by OldPro, Thu Jan-19-12 04:44 PM
>Me and Claw rapped about this yesterday and my genie wish
>would be for prince to take the guitar spot and do his whoa
>whoa everybody sing the song now backing vox...lol
>How crazy would that be??
>Of course that ain't gonna happen but damn that would be outta
>sight!!

Imagine a whole show with Prince & The Time.... lawd have mercy


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2650971, RE: Too good to ever come true
Posted by revolution75, Thu Jan-19-12 05:44 PM
And hitting every town that mumblo and the gang plays on the same night??
Ahhh dreams....
2650974, surely he's been on stage w/them at some point?
Posted by SoWhat, Thu Jan-19-12 05:57 PM
i ask b/c i don't recall seeing it or hearing about it.
2650985, RE: surely he's been on stage w/them at some point?
Posted by revolution75, Thu Jan-19-12 06:37 PM
>i ask b/c i don't recall seeing it or hearing about it.

I think so during the triple threat tour..and I think he did when they had Jesse tied up an .I think when jam and Lewis were away..can someone validate that? .my purple memory is foggy right now...
2650988, this is correct
Posted by Dr Claw, Thu Jan-19-12 06:44 PM
>I think so during the triple threat tour..and I think he did
>when they had Jesse tied up an .I think when jam and Lewis
>were away..can someone validate that? .my purple memory is
>foggy right now...

Prince had his goons go after Jesse at one of The Time's shows and handcuff him offstage while he got on stage and played. The result was the infamous "food fight" story.

When snow kept Jam and Lewis in Atlanta, Prince played the bass offstage at the Time's San Antonio show and had Jerome mime it.
2659993, Jesse mad
Posted by OldPro, Thu Feb-09-12 07:22 PM
Jesse Johnson
From The Un-Effing-Believable Files!
MF's really, OMG, shouldn't comment on matters where you are on the way outside looking in. For 20+ years none of you M#%%^%F##%^s care if I played in the Time or not, but now you are acting like it's a religion. Just be happy for me when and where ever I find happiness and that happiness doesn't hurt anyone. I believe in personal and private details in life/business matters should stay just that.

And if, you only knew a small portion of the truth, you would would feel so very a shame of your your negative "Outside comments". Always pay attention to who's not making comments as apposed to who's flapping gums on the negative level of energy!!!! So to all nay sayers, Respectfully Fuck off and worry about getting your own house in order, because that's the only house I have a responsiblity or power to direct keep the peace.

Because believe me, the truth is so ugly and vile you wouldn't be able to handle it!!!! As I've stated before, this site "JESSEJOHNSONFAN"is for people that dig what I do or find what I do some what interesting.

BTW D'Angelo is more than just a job, he's blood, a best friend, an incredibley caring human being with a huge heart full of compassion, and a FUCKING INCREDIBLE TALENT! For the record we have had disagreements for years and years, but there is a very strong mutual unspoken respect between us. Let's just say brothers helping brothers! If you can get to that!!!
PeaceLove,
Jesse Johnson

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2660002, RE: Jesse mad
Posted by murph71, Thu Feb-09-12 07:39 PM
>Jesse Johnson
>From The Un-Effing-Believable Files!
>MF's really, OMG, shouldn't comment on matters where you are
>on the way outside looking in. For 20+ years none of you
>M#%%^%F##%^s care if I played in the Time or not, but now you
>are acting like it's a religion. Just be happy for me when and
>where ever I find happiness and that happiness doesn't hurt
>anyone. I believe in personal and private details in
>life/business matters should stay just that.
>
>And if, you only knew a small portion of the truth, you would
>would feel so very a shame of your your negative "Outside
>comments". Always pay attention to who's not making comments
>as apposed to who's flapping gums on the negative level of
>energy!!!! So to all nay sayers, Respectfully Fuck off and
>worry about getting your own house in order, because that's
>the only house I have a responsiblity or power to direct keep
>the peace.
>
>Because believe me, the truth is so ugly and vile you wouldn't
>be able to handle it!!!! As I've stated before, this site
>"JESSEJOHNSONFAN"is for people that dig what I do or find what
>I do some what interesting.
>
>BTW D'Angelo is more than just a job, he's blood, a best
>friend, an incredibley caring human being with a huge heart
>full of compassion, and a FUCKING INCREDIBLE TALENT! For the
>record we have had disagreements for years and years, but
>there is a very strong mutual unspoken respect between us.
>Let's just say brothers helping brothers! If you can get to
>that!!!
>PeaceLove,
>Jesse Johnson
>
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>
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Yeah...that nigga mad...lol
2660003, I just saw this on FB... died laughing.
Posted by Dr Claw, Thu Feb-09-12 07:39 PM
2660007, wow...well...I did notice
Posted by Warren Coolidge, Thu Feb-09-12 07:50 PM
a few negtative comments towards him on his facebook page after he left the Original 7.... guess eventually he saw them too...lol.

Don't see why anyone who would be a fan of Jesse would begrudge him for joining up with D'Angelo....I'd assume a person who was a big Jesse fan would tend to be a fan of D's...but maybe I'm wrong... But yeah.... can't see why anyone wouldn't see the opportunity as a big positive....

I'm sure...like me fans of his were concerned with the abrupt tone and the finality of his statement about the Original 7..but not being privy to exactly what was going on..and why he bounced..it seems pretty presumptious to diss Jesse's motivations..

I'm sure he'll play with the Time again..... but his working with D'Angelo has tons of potential and is a win-win for both D' and Jesse..
2660027, well i ain't exactly happy about him playing with D'mumblo
Posted by mistermaxxx08, Thu Feb-09-12 09:19 PM
however playing for the time or orginal 7 or whatever they are forced to call themselves in 2012 is far worse and of the lesser of two evils he made the right choice and here is why:

the time project didn't even go cracker jack box and the material is lacking IMO, Jesse needed to be singing and or been featured even more 1)

Morris day is a company man and is stuck in a time warp even worse than D'angelo and he is happy with being a collection plate Relic at this stage and time. 2)

watching the time on Jay Leno and picking up Jesse Johnson's vibe i felt like that scene from "Hollywood Shuffle" at winky dinky dog and i could hear Jimmy jam, Morris Day, Jerome Benton and Terry Lewis saying forget those dreams man, stay at the WInky Dinky Dog.

the only other time cat who ain't going for the Jive is JellyBean Johnson. i can tell. 3)


nobody wants to hear no new time stuff no way and that routine and schtick is so old and tiring. so he made the right choice in terms of keeping some change in his pockets and allowed to do his thing. 4)

yeah of course him and D'angelo are going to butt heads because D'angelo is still musically channel surfing a romanticism with the Old Minneapolis thang and Jesse is like Yo, dude i was there and it ain't like quite how you think it is. hopefully Jesse can push D'angelo to find his own groove and stop sounding like a relic that is stuck at a Chitlin drive thru on New Years day.


the reason why i wanted to Jesse not involved musically with D'angelo is becase Jesse is a Guitar Slinger and he ain't trying to re capture anything from the past he broke free of that.

but its cool they are tight and got respect, because i can tell you, those cats in the time ain't trying to hear what Jesse has got to say and they are content on growing old and comfortable and it shows.

too much Politics in Minneapolis. Jesse and jellyBean would love to grab Prince's wig and flip it around,but those other cats are march mellow soft and it shows.
2660035, Verbal Penetration >>> Love Letters
Posted by Warren Coolidge, Thu Feb-09-12 09:37 PM

Does Kells even use a guitar player on his songs or in concert???

Morris Day and the Time in whatever formation would blow R.Kelly's sing-songy ass off a stage Right Today Maxx and you know it..

Morris Day has true charisma and is a true BAND leader.... The Drama is in the songs..in the funk....nobody has to act out no coming out the closet gospel plays with Cheryl Pepsi Riley, Stoney Jackson and Shirley Hempfil...lolol..


On the Original 7 DVD Jesse talked about how difficult it was to do a regular show with the Time in Vegas.... guys are older..they didn't have the energy...

it's a good look for Jesse to be rollin with D'Angelo.... Bringing some funk live on stage..and hopefully on record..

See maxx...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7O3C03qWz0&list=UUZXT9pyNA6WeDbJEq-b6buQ

you don't get that type of vibe at an R.Kelly show.... that raw energy....

Kells could be a back up singer like Anthony Hamilton or Bilal was for D'.....lolol.
2660040, JJ is a very good guitar player, can't sing 4 shit, weak songs
Posted by Mr.Ouija, Thu Feb-09-12 09:54 PM
JJ always thought he was on P's level
dude stay getting a reality check though
JJ comes off as a coward, letting them know over the internet
runs to do a D'angelo revival show, and there JJ is overplaying guitar solos
and noodiling on stage with some guitar he gave D'angelo
sure JJ has some talent, but so do alot of niggas
but he aint on that level
JJ pulled a bitch move

JJ and D'angelo belong in a band together though
two "coulda beens"
2660054, go flush yourself
Posted by Dr Claw, Thu Feb-09-12 10:44 PM
2660067, big Jesse Johnson fan, however alot of what you say is true
Posted by mistermaxxx08, Thu Feb-09-12 11:13 PM
Jesse should have easily had a Lenny Kravitz type of career if he had vision and a goal as a solo artist, but it didn't come to pass.

Jesse is still the baddest guitar player from the Minnapolis scene IMO and he did have some good ideas because it was Jesse with rocking Pink before Prince and Purple, but while Jesse had moments and is very talented, he never got all of it right as a solo artist and that is true.

decent vocalist

alright songwriter

alright arranger and Producer

good showmanship

good on the keys and programming

beast on guitar


however hit and miss album act at best.

d'angelo can sing at times and play but everything else is spotty at best IMO.D'angelo at the keyboard is at his best.

his songwriting leaves alot to be desired and he rides on vamps and grooves as to have some structure.

2660063, turkey please Warren you on that double crack playa
Posted by mistermaxxx08, Thu Feb-09-12 11:05 PM
>
>Does Kells even use a guitar player on his songs or in
>concert???
>
>Morris Day and the Time in whatever formation would blow
>R.Kelly's sing-songy ass off a stage Right Today Maxx and you
>know it..
>
>Morris Day has true charisma and is a true BAND leader....
>The Drama is in the songs..in the funk....nobody has to act
>out no coming out the closet gospel plays with Cheryl Pepsi
>Riley, Stoney Jackson and Shirley Hempfil...lolol..
>
>
>On the Original 7 DVD Jesse talked about how difficult it was
>to do a regular show with the Time in Vegas.... guys are
>older..they didn't have the energy...
>
>it's a good look for Jesse to be rollin with D'Angelo....
>Bringing some funk live on stage..and hopefully on record..
>
>See maxx...
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7O3C03qWz0&list=UUZXT9pyNA6WeDbJEq-b6buQ
>
>you don't get that type of vibe at an R.Kelly show.... that
>raw energy....
>
>Kells could be a back up singer like Anthony Hamilton or Bilal
>was for D'.....lolol.


R.kelly has donnie lyles play guitar for him and he is a good guitar player. Kellz himself plays guitar i saw him on a billboard event playing guitar with Buddy Guy FYI 1)

Jesse Johnson ain't never made an album as good as any of R.Kelly's and if he had have he wouldn't be backing up a made believer Ghetto Superstar in 2012. I love Jesse Johnson's musicianship and a few of his songs, but if Jesse had any real game then ain't no way in the world a cat like Lenny Kravtiz would have blew up. 2)

morris day and the time today would be lucky to audition for a new installment of trapped in the closet. Morris and the time today would be good bit players in a tyler perry film called "lost in a time warp and Permed out" 3)


you must have the same jerri curl activator bottles by your mP3 player which is corrupting your brain cells. ain't nobody thought about no Morris day like that since you had matching Jerri curl activator and Goggles like your football hero Eric Dickerson. Morris ain't counted on the real since "oak tree" and while he was cool with the time, he was a Lemon as a solo artist. i respect Morris musicianship, but lets not get carried away he was a Never was as a Solo act and we both know that. Playa 4)



the original time don't want to mess with the routine and they are window dressing and fronting. Jesse wants to rock and do his thing and I don't blame him. Morris and Jerome still doing there Laverne and Shirley routine 40 years later equals a Massive "L" and Jesse doesn't want to put out a new album and have to be stuck doing 95% of old butt songs. that is a Major "L" and studio expense. 5)

oh wow a relic show in 2012 that never happens? D'angelo knew best to start over in europe because stateside he would be lucky to sell out a Fingerhut convention!!!!!!!!


the way D'angelo sings he needs to do backup for R.Kelly to get some harmony in place. Anthony Hamilton got more of a career than D'angelo now interesting and Blial even does a little though he is still pooty tang. 6)
2660080, you shook... maxx....you nervous....
Posted by Warren Coolidge, Thu Feb-09-12 11:33 PM
you know the album and the us tour gonna bubble.... just take deep breaths man.... don't hyper ventalate...

D' will be funkin on stage near you soon.... go check it out and release yourself from that lip syncing dat singing-over shit...

step to this homie..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gbGEQFPsVk

2660090, yo if I want a chitlin circuit oldies but goodies act i got plenty to attend
Posted by mistermaxxx08, Thu Feb-09-12 11:57 PM
ain't nobody trying to hear and see no young relic and hearing relic music on top of that.

D'angelo is a featherweight studio artist and that is his legacy in the real world. he had a chance at so much more. RIp Van Winkle aka D'angelo will go back to sleep after his little tour and tired album drop.

meanwhile R.Kelly will just add another chapter to his Hall of Fame Career.

as long as you remember that R.kelly is Kobe Bryant to D'angelo's Penny hardaway and even with a Puppet 1995 ain't coming back then all is cool.
2660209, Come on Maxxx
Posted by OldPro, Fri Feb-10-12 11:07 AM
>Jesse Johnson ain't never made an album as good as any of R.Kelly's

This is a bridge too far bruh

You really trying to tell us Jesse's first solo album isn't even as good as TP2? Born into the 90s? Untitled?

Like I can't accept even you believe this
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2660625, Jesse's debut over Born into the 90's but if we are talking about
Posted by mistermaxxx08, Sat Feb-11-12 01:18 AM
classic Kellz Albums then Naw. but if you put the Jesse Johnson revue against born into the 90's then yeah. i'm a Huge Jesse Johnson fan, however i dug his playing more than his albums per se. and i dug his Grooves more than his songwriting Man.

had he done more stuff like "nights like this" and "can you help me" along with a "free world" and Be your man" then yeah his game would be sick and every now and then a "every shade of love" type of cut.

but we hardly ever got his best on a whole roll, however as a musician that is where he shinned.
2660042, Morris Day >>> D'angelo
Posted by Mr.Ouija, Thu Feb-09-12 09:57 PM


>a few negtative comments towards him on his facebook page
>after he left the Original 7.... guess eventually he saw them
>too...lol.
>
>Don't see why anyone who would be a fan of Jesse would
>begrudge him for joining up with D'Angelo....I'd assume a
>person who was a big Jesse fan would tend to be a fan of
>D's...but maybe I'm wrong... But yeah.... can't see why anyone
>wouldn't see the opportunity as a big positive....
>
>I'm sure...like me fans of his were concerned with the abrupt
>tone and the finality of his statement about the Original
>7..but not being privy to exactly what was going on..and why
>he bounced..it seems pretty presumptious to diss Jesse's
>motivations..
>
>I'm sure he'll play with the Time again..... but his working
>with D'Angelo has tons of potential and is a win-win for both
>D' and Jesse..
2660066, RE: Morris Day >>> D'angelo
Posted by mistermaxxx08, Thu Feb-09-12 11:08 PM
Morris would take D'angelo's scarf and clean off his stacy Adams it ain't even close.

had D'angelo not choked it away then it would have been a different story, but watching Rip Van Winkle D'angelo wake up 12 years later with the same ole tired garbage and trying to act like he is back?? NAW!!!!!!!!
2660057, didn't Jesse leave the D tour already?
Posted by Bombastic, Thu Feb-09-12 10:54 PM
.
2660081, RE: didn't Jesse leave the D tour already?
Posted by murph71, Thu Feb-09-12 11:37 PM


Yep...but he's back...
2660512, haha, been quite a roller-coaster with Jesse since this post started
Posted by Bombastic, Fri Feb-10-12 06:21 PM
>
>
>Yep...but he's back...
2660213, Yeah I think you're wrong on this
Posted by OldPro, Fri Feb-10-12 11:15 AM
>I'd assume a
>person who was a big Jesse fan would tend to be a fan of
>D's...but maybe I'm wrong...

I mean of course there is some cross over but thinking about a lot of that cats I know that you'd call Jesse fans from back in the day... D really isn't even on their radar. Especially now. Unless you're coming to a board like this every day and getting D updates, he's just another "where are they now" google search. Not trying to diss D or anything... that's just how it be.
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2660233, true..it's hard to be a fan of a guy who hasn't released a record
Posted by Warren Coolidge, Fri Feb-10-12 11:47 AM
in 10 years...

but I don't think that Jesse Johnson fans would be generally dissapointed in him playing with D' as far as him doing a music that is totally opposite or contradicting the type of music Jesse is associated with...

it's not like he left the Original 7 to go play with Brittney Spears or Fergie or someone like that...lol
2660259, well, Jesse hadn't released one in 14 before VP...
Posted by Dr Claw, Fri Feb-10-12 12:25 PM
but at least Jesse had 4 others before that, so it's not quite the same


>but I don't think that Jesse Johnson fans would be generally
>dissapointed in him playing with D' as far as him doing a
>music that is totally opposite or contradicting the type of
>music Jesse is associated with...
>
>it's not like he left the Original 7 to go play with Brittney
>Spears or Fergie or someone like that...lol

I think there would be some intersect (I'm a fan of both, Jesse moreso)
but yeah.
2660266, true...but a Jesse Johnson fan would have to be over a certain
Posted by Warren Coolidge, Fri Feb-10-12 12:32 PM
age to even know who he was.....that person over that certain age would know who D'Angelo is...and I doubt D would be on a list of artist that person doesn't check for....even though it's been so many years.
2660098, More details from Jesse (swipe)
Posted by Warren Coolidge, Fri Feb-10-12 12:10 AM
Jesse Johnson

Just walked into my hotel room (5:30am) in Amsterdam and whewww!!! The show easi amazing because Amsterdam parties very, very hearty!

I send a real thank you, love & hugs to the commenters who are simply just fair and compassionate. I think it bothers me more now when people uneducatedly, say nasty and untrue things about me because now my children who love, adore, and are fiercely protective of me, are upset by said bullshit.

I know I'm no where near President Obama's level, plus i'm well aware that critiquing ones work comes with both of our jobs, but one can imagine what the President's wife and children must go through hearing all the garbage said about someone the love so dearly.

My family adores and loves me deeply, so when someone speaks ill of me, especially lies, it hurts them very much. So that the next time when someone wants to shoot off the mouths about something they know absolutely nothing about, please think of a few things first:
1) Innocent people you hurt. Everything we do/say good or bad affects other lives always. So you must at all times try to be mindful of what we do and say.
2) KARMA, KARMA, KARMA! Just because these socalled forums for speaking our minds exist, doesn't mean or shouldn't mean you should abuse a wonderful opportunity to be an hurtful asshole.

So i try very hard every day to do unto others as I wish them to do unto my black ass! I say thank you to everyone one from the cab driver, the fan at the show, and or the janitor sweeping up the joint. Because I know I'm no better than anyone else...Just a little bit fortunate than some...at times...not all the time...but some times.

So thank you for your love in way of fairness, compassion, and understanding. With all do respect if you don't dig me, it's okay, it really is and you are intitled to your opinions, just please take that stupid bullshit to some other site so that my loved ones are not subject to your ignorance.
LovePeace,
Jesse Johnson

P.S.
I was on a conference call with the O-7 and I asked the following questions in early December; " Do we have any shows for December? answered "No" I continued to ask the the same question regarding January and Febuary, and I received the same answer, which was a resounding "NO" I then asked when was the the first royalty accounting coming up? And the answer was, " I don't know" and with Allah as my witness, I respectfully made the announcement that I could no longer AFFORD to participate in an organization that personally cost me thousands of dollars (Gear, Clothing, Travel, etc...) and further more shows no signs of taking premptive measures (Sponsers, Touring, etc...) in helping to see a return on our investment. So help me god, the people on whatever sites that state they were not informed of exit should feel very, very ashamed of them selves to seek sympathy from unknowing fans. Am I angry, I feel sad for people that have to lie to seek unwarranted sympathy. Sad! Do ever post or ask me at anytime or place about this subject.

As I stated in an earlier post the whole truth is to rife with ugliness that would affect he lives of "Purely innocent children of people I thought loved and cared about me"

2660165, well, after reading this, #TeamJesse
Posted by Dr Claw, Fri Feb-10-12 08:30 AM
cmon brothers, get it together.

I don't blame Jesse for going on stage with another one of his friends... you gotta make a living somehow.

I'd like to hope that this will all be resolved somehow that ends with the 7 back together and touring. Without speculating too much about the specifics, it sounds like they had no problem making actual music together, but when it came to the business side of things they had some real issues. Par for the course.

I've got some ish to say about Kells up there, but I think I'm going to chill. LittleX needs to go log off though.
2660210, obviously Jesse wanted a concrete gameplan as far as touring
Posted by Warren Coolidge, Fri Feb-10-12 11:09 AM
with them.... That's not asking too much...both from a financial aspect and being away from one's family ..you would want the schedule written in pen not pencil..

plus if you're going to do all the work to put an album together....you need to promote it and work the angles to bring in some revenue....if everyone was being whatever about that...can't blame Jesse for bouncing to something that was already set up with D'...
2660215, I'm not sure what really went down
Posted by OldPro, Fri Feb-10-12 11:29 AM
But I honestly feel like the problem is Jesse after reading this post. Well let me rephrase that... Jesse is a good pat of the problem. I mean to post some shit like that on Facebook of all places... basically as a response to what some people (he don't even know) are saying about him, just doesn't make him look like a person with both feet on the ground. It's way too reactionary and tells me dude is somewhat of a time bomb. Again I'm obviously speculating here (and I guess this is the type of shit that pissed him off in the first place lol) but it gives more validity to the Time's official statement on this a few weeks back. The part about them being blindsided by Jesse just up and leaving after the had a conference call that morning where Jesse never voiced any concerns, really does ring true to me now. I'm sure we've all known the quiet dude that doesn't say shit, keeps it all inside then just explodes. In two statements Jesse went from being low keyed to cussing mutha fuckers out. That's just not a stable dude any way you cut it.

I hope things go well for Jesse with D but I really can't say I'm expecting this to go all that smoothly either. I just hope this dude can find some peace at some point.
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2660232, SMDH......lol
Posted by Silky1, Fri Feb-10-12 11:47 AM
>But I honestly feel like the problem is Jesse after reading
>this post. Well let me rephrase that... Jesse is a good pat of
>the problem. I mean to post some shit like that on Facebook of
>all places... basically as a response to what some people (he
>don't even know) are saying about him, just doesn't make him
>look like a person with both feet on the ground. It's way too
>reactionary and tells me dude is somewhat of a time bomb.
>Again I'm obviously speculating here (and I guess this is the
>type of shit that pissed him off in the first place lol) but
>it gives more validity to the Time's official statement on
>this a few weeks back. The part about them being blindsided by
>Jesse just up and leaving after the had a conference call that
>morning where Jesse never voiced any concerns, really does
>ring true to me now. I'm sure we've all known the quiet dude
>that doesn't say shit, keeps it all inside then just explodes.
>In two statements Jesse went from being low keyed to cussing
>mutha fuckers out. That's just not a stable dude any way you
>cut it.
>
>I hope things go well for Jesse with D but I really can't say
>I'm expecting this to go all that smoothly either. I just hope
>this dude can find some peace at some point.
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"i'm talking about *Balls Deep*....In Love (c)Cleveland Jr.

He was cultivating a fine nigga farm (c)Goldmind.

R.I.P Jamie Hubley
2660235, I know I just hate D
Posted by OldPro, Fri Feb-10-12 11:54 AM
smdh right back at ya
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2660236, lol, i guess so.............*whistle*
Posted by Silky1, Fri Feb-10-12 11:55 AM
>smdh right back at ya
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"i'm talking about *Balls Deep*....In Love (c)Cleveland Jr.

He was cultivating a fine nigga farm (c)Goldmind.

R.I.P Jamie Hubley
2660241, some of the comments being said on his facebook page
Posted by Warren Coolidge, Fri Feb-10-12 11:59 AM
were pretty rough....people that were his "fans" allegedly putting comments on his page like that....and it was a lot of them, and I think maybe he or his peeps didn't see them for a minute so it got a bit out of hand.... all that to say I don't think it's out of the ordinary for him to respond to those comments on facebook as they were made on his facebook page.

the other thing too you know Jellybean bounced and is touring Europe with FDeluxe right now...I mean Jess wasn't the only one to take a gig playing with a group that had dates already booked as opposed to sticking with a group that didn't have dates booked and one he had to pay out of pocket his own expenses to participate in.
2660243, Yep. Plus, if you gonna post some shit like that, on someone .....
Posted by Silky1, Fri Feb-10-12 12:04 PM
>were pretty rough....people that were his "fans" allegedly
>putting comments on his page like that....and it was a lot of
>them, and I think maybe he or his peeps didn't see them for a
>minute so it got a bit out of hand.... all that to say I don't
>think it's out of the ordinary for him to respond to those
>comments on facebook as they were made on his facebook page.
>
>the other thing too you know Jellybean bounced and is touring
>Europe with FDeluxe right now...I mean Jess wasn't the only
>one to take a gig playing with a group that had dates already
>booked as opposed to sticking with a group that didn't have
>dates booked and one he had to pay out of pocket his own
>expenses to participate in.

.........facebook page, you betta expect that type of a reaction. I mean, after all he is a human being just like the rest of us.

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He was cultivating a fine nigga farm (c)Goldmind.

R.I.P Jamie Hubley
2660248, and even though he posts a lot..I'm sure he's not the only person
Posted by Warren Coolidge, Fri Feb-10-12 12:07 PM
who adminstrates his site... could be one of his kids or another family member....he referred to his fam being upset by what was said so if my fam comes across something negative and/or unfair about me on my facebook, I'm gonna be more pissed than if I had found it there myself.
2660254, exactly.
Posted by Silky1, Fri Feb-10-12 12:16 PM
>who adminstrates his site... could be one of his kids or
>another family member....he referred to his fam being upset by
>what was said so if my fam comes across something negative
>and/or unfair about me on my facebook, I'm gonna be more
>pissed than if I had found it there myself.


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He was cultivating a fine nigga farm (c)Goldmind.

R.I.P Jamie Hubley
2660256, Mofos forget that
Posted by revolution75, Fri Feb-10-12 12:21 PM
I have had to catch myself many of time before I posted some neg shit about someone
Cats are indeed human
And I they didn't rob my mama while she wa gambling on the riverboat..what's the point?

Van Hunt had the same reaction.
His son read a message on the org about him
Folks were going in on Van for no valid reason
Then when Van responds letting them know who read it and why he's responding
Mofos still went in on him

2660253, Gotta disagree with ya bro
Posted by revolution75, Fri Feb-10-12 12:16 PM
Now there's always two sides to the story and then there's the truth
Going off of Jesses initial statement on December makes complete sense now
Dunno about you but if I have invested years of time and my own $$ in something that doesnt seem kosher, I'm out
And if it has to be with my boy, so be it.
But I believe Jesse would have split without the offer to tour with d
Business is business
And when cats get to uhh and duhhh on shit, im out before it gets personal
He didn't take that route
He only addressed the situation after reading 07s statement and what's on the chats
Which got pretty ugly

Jam and Lewis aint pressed for $$
Monte and bean have $$ coming in as well
Morris refuses to take time out of his half time schedule and focus on the 07
Yet he's still getting paid
Which leaves Jesse
Who is a major draw for the reunion in concert and in the studio
And I'm sure he was banking on the tour to recoup his $$ invested

Not pointing fingers but if I were to it wouldn't be in jesse's direction
2660277, You guys are forgetting one thing
Posted by OldPro, Fri Feb-10-12 12:55 PM
This was Jesse's original statement

"I don't really think I'll be performing with the Original any more! We simple don't see eye to eye on anything. Love the guys, but I feel in my heart it's "Time" to walk away while we're all still friends. Peace be with you all and them all. PeaceLove Jesse Johnson"

no mention of finances or needing to jump on another opportunity that is presenting itself.... dude said "any more" and dropped an "!" behind it. If it was as simple as some are trying to make it, he could have just left to do his thing and left the door open for future gigs with the fellas.... but he didnt.
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2660289, Not 4 me
Posted by revolution75, Fri Feb-10-12 01:14 PM



That statement makes MORE sense now
Dude was trying his best to keep it cool
That's what I'm getting out of it
It wasn't until a shit storm rained down on him
That he reacted
I'm guessing he's still getting it
So he addressed it as much as he could without getting too deep into and naming names

I have no clue what really down
No one but those dudes and those close to them will know




>This was Jesse's original statement
>
>"I don't really think I'll be performing with the Original any
>more! We simple don't see eye to eye on anything. Love the
>guys, but I feel in my heart it's "Time" to walk away while
>we're all still friends. Peace be with you all and them all.
>PeaceLove Jesse Johnson"
>
>no mention of finances or needing to jump on another
>opportunity that is presenting itself.... dude said "any more"
>and dropped an "!" behind it. If it was as simple as some are
>trying to make it, he could have just left to do his thing and
>left the door open for future gigs with the fellas.... but he
>didnt.
>_________________________________
>Reunion Radio Podcasts
>Bringing Together Five Decades of R&B/Funk/Soul/Dance
>
>http://reunionradio.blogspot.com/
2660295, exactly. Tactful, even.
Posted by Silky1, Fri Feb-10-12 01:20 PM
>
>
>
>That statement makes MORE sense now
>Dude was trying his best to keep it cool
>That's what I'm getting out of it
>It wasn't until a shit storm rained down on him
>That he reacted
>I'm guessing he's still getting it
>So he addressed it as much as he could without getting too
>deep into and naming names
>
>I have no clue what really down
>No one but those dudes and those close to them will know
>
>
>
>
>>This was Jesse's original statement
>>
>>"I don't really think I'll be performing with the Original
>any
>>more! We simple don't see eye to eye on anything. Love the
>>guys, but I feel in my heart it's "Time" to walk away while
>>we're all still friends. Peace be with you all and them all.
>>PeaceLove Jesse Johnson"
>>
>>no mention of finances or needing to jump on another
>>opportunity that is presenting itself.... dude said "any
>more"
>>and dropped an "!" behind it. If it was as simple as some
>are
>>trying to make it, he could have just left to do his thing
>and
>>left the door open for future gigs with the fellas.... but
>he
>>didnt.
>>_________________________________
>>Reunion Radio Podcasts
>>Bringing Together Five Decades of R&B/Funk/Soul/Dance
>>
>>http://reunionradio.blogspot.com/
>


silk.later Reunion radio with Old P. & Silk http://reunionradio.blogspot.com/

"i'm talking about *Balls Deep*....In Love (c)Cleveland Jr.

He was cultivating a fine nigga farm (c)Goldmind.

R.I.P Jamie Hubley
2660290, maybe he was being on the low-low with it ?
Posted by Silky1, Fri Feb-10-12 01:15 PM
>This was Jesse's original statement
>
>"I don't really think I'll be performing with the Original any
>more! We simple don't see eye to eye on anything. Love the
>guys, but I feel in my heart it's "Time" to walk away while
>we're all still friends. Peace be with you all and them all.
>PeaceLove Jesse Johnson"
>
>no mention of finances or needing to jump on another
>opportunity that is presenting itself.... dude said "any more"
>and dropped an "!" behind it. If it was as simple as some are
>trying to make it, he could have just left to do his thing and
>left the door open for future gigs with the fellas.... but he
>didnt.
>_________________________________
>Reunion Radio Podcasts
>Bringing Together Five Decades of R&B/Funk/Soul/Dance
>
>http://reunionradio.blogspot.com

kinda like, when Sheila E. said she wasn't performing with Prince anymore !! but, because he was pushed to the wall, by fans, he felt like he had to spell it out to silence folks. i mean, you can't expect him to sit around, when their were no shows.

silk.later Reunion radio with Old P. & Silk http://reunionradio.blogspot.com/

"i'm talking about *Balls Deep*....In Love (c)Cleveland Jr.

He was cultivating a fine nigga farm (c)Goldmind.

R.I.P Jamie Hubley
2660306, Again his statement was about more than just this
Posted by OldPro, Fri Feb-10-12 01:36 PM
>i
>mean, you can't expect him to sit around, when their were no
>shows.


because as someone else pointed out Jelly Bean off doing his thing right now too... Jesse could have easily just went and done the gigs with D without all this fussing.
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2660307, at the end of the day those are still his brothers so he wasn't
Posted by Warren Coolidge, Fri Feb-10-12 01:38 PM
gonna put it on blast that there were money issues.... plus that puts himself on blast too..

the other thing in that 2nd statement he uses the term Allah for God so if Jesse is a Muslim now then there are rules about how you express issues about your friends...not saying that impacted what he said, but it's possible that played a role in how he framed his initial statement...
2660436, Wild hunnids, biaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaatchhhh !!!!! lol
Posted by Silky1, Fri Feb-10-12 04:38 PM

silk.later Reunion radio with Old P. & Silk http://reunionradio.blogspot.com/

"i'm talking about *Balls Deep*....In Love (c)Cleveland Jr.

He was cultivating a fine nigga farm (c)Goldmind.

R.I.P Jamie Hubley