didn't listen the first time and say "Eminem murdered him"....I think it was more "damn, Eminem got off on that track" without us really putting Jay down. But Nas brought attention to it and made everyone say "oh shit.....he did get served on there, huh???"

And Jay's verse was like 8.5/10...dope, but nothing amazing. Eminem beat him in eeeeevery way on it...the content, lyrics, multis, delivery, flow...I mean it was literally his track with him making the beat. Jay's best contribution was "do you listen to music or just skim through it" which folks still say, so he definitely wasn't MURDERED to that extent. But Em clearly ran that shit.