Sometimes you give an artist the opportunity to make up for a stinker, but sometimes an album puts you off so much that you just accept the fact that you don't want ever want to hear another full-length from them. That albums have turned you off of an act?

I didn't like LWFC or Things fall apart, but I gave both acts one more chance, and they let me down. I still enjoy the Roots as a live act, but I don't ever want to hear another Roots LP.

AOI: Whichever the first one was

Nastraudamus

The Roots are on the run of their career right now with the last 3 albums.

Not my thing.

then why are you here?

since LWFC came out in 2000 and you're registered in 2002, the same year Phrenology came out

I mean if you were DONE with those artists, why come to the site?

as a place to discuss hip hop, and music in general. That's what brought me here. I'm not a huge Roots fan either - the last album I bought by them was "Phrenology" and I think I only own three (that one, "Things Fall Apart," and "Do You Want More").

i never understood why so many ppl didn't like it.. i thought it had just about everything you could be looking for...

i promise i'm not gonna shit on your opinion, but u think u could enlighten me on that one??

full-blown retreats are unseemly.

I give everything a chance regardless of who the artist is, what they do outside of the music, or their past work; b/c the music is all I care about.

the music IS what matters, but sometimes you can get a hint that it just might suck..

loved mixtape about nothing, but it was just evident he was going in a different direction than I thought after hearing it and that seems to be confirmed

I gave up on Jay at Kingdom Come.

horrible album.

this is when you knew Coldplay wasn't forreal... sucks too, cuz ROBTTH was pretty damn good... it's always a pivotal moment w/ that album right after the HUGE one.. i think Coldplay failed that test and let everyone know they weren't the band many ppl thought they could be.. and i don't even think it's cuz the music on X&Y sucked that bad... it was just a watered down rehash... which imo is a lot worse... if they came out w/ just a shitty album or experimented and failed, i'd be MUCH more willing to give them another shot... but that shit just left a bad taste

>sucks too,
>cuz ROBTTH was pretty damn good...

AROBTTH was my favorite album of 2002. epic. classic. i woulda took a bullet for chris. he showed that a sappy guy can make a powerful album.

>i think
>Coldplay failed that test and let everyone know they weren't
>the band many ppl thought they could be.. and i don't even
>think it's cuz the music on X&Y sucked that bad...
>it was just
>a watered down rehash... which imo is a lot worse... if they
>came out w/ just a shitty album or experimented and failed,
>i'd be MUCH more willing to give them another shot... but that
>shit just left a bad taste

i agree 100%. take a risk! look at beck, he changes all the time!

basically, with gwenyth in the picture, he showed that a happy guy can make a weak album.

I don't know if it was because Aquemini was a million times better and dropped that same day or because I could NEVER deal with those processed Swizz Beatz style productions.

there is absolutely NOTHING that I like about that album.

other than the Primo intro, but the fact that Jay didn't rhyme on it made it bad. lol

After that, I said, I'm done with this dude.

I didn't get Vol 3 or Dynasty when they dropped.

I wasn't back on board until Blueprint (which I think is overrated) but still a great album.

That style of production he had for the majority of the songs sounded bad to me then and worse now.
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I don't like the beat anymore because its just a loop. ALC didn't FLIP IT ENOUGH!

Flip it enough? Flip these. Flip off. Go flip some f*cking burgers.(c)Kno

Allied State of the National Electric Beat Treaty Organization (NEBTO)

... definitely up there with my faves behind Black Album.

Vol. 2 is the album that really introduced me to Jay-Z (got into his music really late). Definitely not as good as some of his material that's come before or after that, but Vol. 2 still had some bangers on it. To me, Vol. 3 is worse.

but I liked Vol. 3 even if it didn't was a lil scatterbrained.

but Jay has this weird thing...

where he'll drop an album or two I like, then follow it up with some straight POO POO then come back hard.

Bought at the time it came out because I was a big fan of the couple before it, and I remember thinking through at least half the disc, "What the fuck is this shit?" Especially the 11 minute "Bop Gun" - I liked Parliament even then but it seemed like a bizarre thing to put on a Cube record. The whole album just sounded all wrong to me. Ironically, I ended up re-buying it years later and like it pretty well now (though not as well as any of its predecessors), but my overall instincts were correct, considering what he released from the mid-90s on.

>Bought at the time it came out because I was a big fan of the
>couple before it, and I remember thinking through at least
>half the disc, "What the fuck is this shit?" Especially the
>11 minute "Bop Gun" - I liked Parliament even then but it
>seemed like a bizarre thing to put on a Cube record. The
>whole album just sounded all wrong to me.

hearing that album, I had the same exact reaction.

>Bought at the time it came out because I was a big fan of the
>couple before it, and I remember thinking through at least
>half the disc, "What the fuck is this shit?" Especially the
>11 minute "Bop Gun" - I liked Parliament even then but it
>seemed like a bizarre thing to put on a Cube record. The
>whole album just sounded all wrong to me.

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Lethal Injection is Death Certificate by comparison to either of those.

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And he was one of my fav's til like 99-2000...I actually thought War & Peace Vol. 1 was great at the time, SMH.

"AmmeriKKKa's Most Wanted" and "Death Certificate"? Certifiable classics.


I actually HATED Cube when he was in NWA. But once I heard "AMW", I had to bow down and admit he was ridiculous. One of the best MC's ever. Definitely in my Top 20, if not Top 15.

Honest question.

I just never liked the whole concept of pointing out the worst things in our community for entertainment. I thought it was irresponsible.

I'm not gonna get into it, because we had a post on it a couple years back and it turned into a shitstorm.


But let's just say, I wasn't a big fan of Gangsta Rap, and NWA are the Godfathers of that genre.


*EDIT*

but to be fair, I won't sit here and act like I never listened to it. On a purely *musical* level, there were some decent songs here and there. But I just don't like the legacy it created...

Not trying to be snarky or anything but I remember you said you dig them and they were pretty much doing the same thing, weren't they?

However, I understand somewhat; I have often given the pass to east-coast gangsta rap for reasons I can't explain (maybe it comes across as less glamorizing and more focused on individuals rather than the gang aspect) but at the end of the day, it's the sound of the music that makes me enjoy it more. Like you, I never liked NWA too much and Ice T, Spice 1, Mack 10, Above the law, CMW and all the other ones never did shit for me while I thought (early) Ice Cube was dope as fuck. I wonder why? Maybe it was the Bomb Squad production on "AMW" but I LOvE ''Death Certificate" too and the beats on that one are west coast as fuck (P-funk samples in almost every song, handclap drums etc.)

but to be fair, it's all about the production. Because them dudes ain;t doin' SHIT on the mic.

Also, considering that Q-Tip is rumored to have produced "The Infamous", it's kinda obvious that there's a steady decline in quality since then.

>However, I understand somewhat; I have often given the pass to
>east-coast gangsta rap for reasons I can't explain (maybe it
>comes across as less glamorizing and more focused on
>individuals rather than the gang aspect) but at the end of the
>day, it's the sound of the music that makes me enjoy it more.
>Like you, I never liked NWA too much and Ice T, Spice 1, Mack
>10, Above the law, CMW and all the other ones never did shit
>for me while I thought (early) Ice Cube was dope as fuck. I
>wonder why? Maybe it was the Bomb Squad production on "AMW"


that's pretty much my EXACT sentiment.

If I'm honest he was starting to slip a lil with the Predator, taking on other rappers' styles and shit. Though, that album probably had Cube's best known single on it, and it opened in classic Cube style: the first track after the opener was always a big "Fuck You" song.

From NWA through Death Certificate... Cube was one of my favorite rappers for real.

...as one of those Hip-Hop songs that just crush everything in its path; I don't like the Predator too much either but that song has always slayed to me; it's the type of Hip-Hop song that could substitute for some crushing metal when I'm in *that* mood...

>...as one of those Hip-Hop songs that just crush everything
>in its path; I don't like the Predator too much either but
>that song has always slayed to me; it's the type of Hip-Hop
>song that could substitute for some crushing metal when I'm in
>*that* mood...

and good looks on that PE track, that was one of my favorites on FEAR OF A BLACK PLANET... the video was a classic too.

"In 1995, you'll twist to this"

Damn right.

Me too. Looks like we might have a winner...

I liked Lethal Injection more than Predator. I always compared Cube releases to Death Certificate and Predator was more of a let down. On Lethal at least Cube went back to more west coast sounding production.
Looking back now though i'd probably say Predator is the better album, sans the Das Efx and Cypress Hill biting...

...Redman LP's...duke is shell of what he was...sad really...

others:

Mobb Deeps last two to 3 LP's...how hard can one skinny crew be? How many cats have they claimed to kill on tracks, got old...not to mention the fall off in the beats department...
Jay Z--after Blueprint I was done...
Busta--don't really know which ones, but he just fell hard...duke always shines in spots, but as a whole project, can't do it...

I was a mega-Pharcyde fan with their first two albums, especially "Bizarre Ride" which I about played a hole in. Best free CD I ever got - I lifted it from our college radio station's promo stack in '93, and that's the copy I still own, worn as it is. Anyway, when they put out that EP in 2000 I was psyched to see them return, having no idea of the group's inner turmoil or any of that mess. I bought the EP, listened to it twice, and HATED it. But it was their first thing released after 5 years and it looked like it was just kind of tossed out there (that cover art... smh), so when "Plain Rap" hit I still snapped it up without having heard a lick of it.

Never again. Done with 'em. They fell off as hard as anybody has ever fallen off, in every phase of their game.

...no doubt...horrible product...

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>I was a mega-Pharcyde fan with their first two albums,
>especially "Bizarre Ride" which I about played a hole in.
>Best free CD I ever got - I lifted it from our college radio
>station's promo stack in '93, and that's the copy I still own,
>worn as it is. Anyway, when they put out that EP in 2000 I
>was psyched to see them return, having no idea of the group's
>inner turmoil or any of that mess. I bought the EP, listened
>to it twice, and HATED it. But it was their first thing
>released after 5 years and it looked like it was just kind of
>tossed out there (that cover art... smh), so when "Plain Rap"
>hit I still snapped it up without having heard a lick of it.
>
>
>Never again. Done with 'em. They fell off as hard as anybody
>has ever fallen off, in every phase of their game.


That album only had three of them on it, no? It def didn't have Fat Lip. So it doesn't count.


...your Auntie Clarisse!

lurkin since 1999. werd.

Does "Niggaz4life" not count as N.W.A.? I mean yeah, lack of Fatlip is a big part of why post-"Labcabin" Pharcyde sucks, but it's not like the group was called Fatlip and the Pharcydes. He was just one member out of a bunch of them - though as it turned out, he might have been the most important one.

I also don't get what happened to Imani. Probably my favorite on "Bizarre Ride" tied with Fatlip, and he induces sleepytime nowadays.

remember when BEP was like, an actual semi-underground rap group?

Yup, I remember when they made quality ish...saw them open for The Roots years ago...

(because I dug 20ten and some of his 3-piece suit(e) that he dropped the year prior)


"My Name Is Prince" was the warning shot, "Gangster Glam" was the time I had to start ducking.

but for a long time I missed a lot of his music because his early '90s period was so ... laughable.

"Gett Off" (a song I remember liking) performed at the MTV Music Awards with the booty-out pants.... the symbol, everything.

I was riding with him on the symbol album but Gold was it.

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I already knew that Nas sucked, but that really sealed the deal for me.

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>I already knew that Nas sucked, but that really sealed the
>deal for me.

It was actually a pretty decent album, and compared to Encore it was a work of art. But it was that album where I realized "I've probably heard everything I need to hear from this guy." Combination of him getting worse and me completely losing my desire to listen to shock rap (this album concided with, I believe my sophomore year of high school so I guess I was maturing beyond wanting to hear him talk about raping his mother anymore). I listened to Encore like twice and my feelings were confirmed. Have yet to give a single Eminem album post-Encore a single spin and don't plan on it.


Others:



Redman - Malpractice. Still love Red to death but he ain't even trying anymore.

Mobb Deep - Blood Money. They've just run their course. Havoc should transition into a career of strictly producing, and Prodigy should probably retire.

50 Cent - Curtis. He completely lost all remnants of his "Power Of The Dollar" steez, combined with that ridiculous tiff with Kanye, he started to become extremely grating as a person and an artist. I've since come to appreciate him as a person (some of the shit he says and does is wild entertaining) but still don't fucks with his music anymore.



I'ma think up some more, give me a hot minute.

i thought it had a couple of joints (especially "say what you say"), but i couldn't vibe to the album too much.

i've heard eminem wreck it a few times recently, so i can respect that, but i can't see myself copping another eminem album. still own the first two, though.

There were many points made in my post.

Completely lost all interest in Mobb Deep at that point

Diamond D's second album.

BlackSheep's second album.

IMMOBILARITY. prior to OBFCL2, i hadn't had any desire to fool with Rae anymore. he's on time out status again, actually. Shaolin vs. Wu Tang didn't do much for me.

Prince - Musicology

infamy? is that what it's called?

bought it, listened to it once, now it's somewhere at the bottom of my storage bins.

didn't buy any mobb stuff after that.

Haven't bought a Mobb Deep album since Murda Musik.


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I hope they saved the money they stole from me... it's the last they'll ever get.


and even if I entertained the idea of them making things right, "Return of the Mac" convinced me that it was best that we all go our separate ways.

a LOT of you cats rode HARD for that album... *cough*MistaModerata and DJ Contact*cough


That shit was TURRIBLE. 45 minutes of babbling and cursing. mostly babbling...

"murda muzik" had some flashes of stuff that kept me interested--e.g. that alchemist song with kool g. rap. i kindly disliked the majority of that album though.

but going into "infamy" i thought, "man, i can't WAIT to see what kind of fire P is gonna give us coming off of 'the takeover'! he's gonna be motivated and take that crown back!!"

nuthin.

no matter how much positive attention "return of the mac" and that other P solo got, it wasn't enough for me after MM and infamy.

damn shame.

yeah. My cousin was in my car, and I left "Return of the Mac" on the seat...right where I knew he'd be sitting...with a 5 Dollar bill taped to it.

Me: "Man...I hope nothing EVER happens to this Prodigy album...it's so amazingly awesome that I'll NEVER stop listening to it!!!"


He didn't bite.

.

i love it. *still on the Prodigy/Mobb Deep bandwagon*

...I thought I was the only one that thought ROTM sucked, because the consensus around here seems to be that it was great.

That said, I still fuck with Mobb Deep. Free Agents and Amerikkaz Nightmare worked for me.

>That said, I still fuck with Mobb Deep. Free Agents and
>Amerikkaz Nightmare worked for me.

the bonus disc for Free Agents was better than the actual disc.

>...I thought I was the only one that thought ROTM sucked,
>because the consensus around here seems to be that it was
>great.

i still love ROTM. Blood Money had some solid joints on it, but i didn't hear it until way after it came out.

...I've been waiting for Detox since I finished college, so I'm kinda done waitin'. I know this isn't exactly what you all are discussing, but I think when an artist goes on a lifelong hiatus from his/her fans only leaving a sprinkle here and there, you become no longer interested in whatever it is you anticipated.

There are a lot of albums that leave you sour. Like some of you, Things Fall Apart was not great to me. And Electric Circus was my straw with Common. But you know what? A lotta artists f**k up. If I gave up on Nas after Nastradamus, I'd be one lonely hip-hopper. If you're a true fan of their work, you'll stay loyal...just not always content with what they put out.

Dre will fit perfectly into this post once "Detox" drops.

I still check for the occasional single or jay dee produced joint but as far as albums I just don't care anymore.


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and curtis

The only artists I don't check for is the ones that I didn't like from the beginning, but once in a while I'll peep out a tune or two by those kats as well just cause, I'm open to hear something if I think it might be worth a listen.

but yeah...I was straight after "A Funk Oddysey". To be fair, "Dynamite" was pretty damned good, but as far as "blind, day-it-came-out" purchases? Jamiroquai doesn't really top that list anymore...


I quit *waiting* for new JMQI shit between "AFO" and "Dynomite"...


( and judging by the singles I heard from the "Dust Light..." album? it ain't too good...)

>but yeah...I was straight after "A Funk Oddysey". To be fair,
>"Dynamite" was pretty damned good, but as far as "blind,
>day-it-came-out" purchases? Jamiroquai doesn't really top that
>list anymore...

His shit ain't poppin' like that no more.
>
>
>I quit *waiting* for new JMQI shit between "AFO" and
>"Dynomite"...
>
>
>( and judging by the singles I heard from the "Dust Light..."
>album? it ain't too good...)

RDLS has a few joints like "White Knuckle Ride" and "She's a Fast Persuader" but overall I'm missing the upright bass and funk from Stuart Zender in theeeee worst way.
>
>
>


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but as Harriet Wheeler once said:

"here's where the story ends..."

after this, I don't really listen to anything post Black album.

Black Album to a degree
Battle of the Sexes
Last 2 Walk
Encore

But I just lost interest in him for some reason

"And Then There Was..." was the beginning of the end though. Then all the drug shit, it's like, this much bad shit should not be happening to one person, unless they're bringing it on themselves.

DMX - Flesh of My Flesh, Blood of My Blood
Eminem - Relapse
Lil Wayne - Tha Carter IV
Asher Roth - Asleep In the Bread Aisle
Rick Ross - Teflon Don
Van Hunt - What Were You Hoping For?
Georgia Anne Muldrow - Umsindo
Slum Village - Detroit Deli


On The Lookout 4:
some new music. WTF is going on this year?

i was thinking about going back and checking out his later stuff, but now i'm hesitant, i guess.

massive (looks at Myka 9, Prince types) but there are albums that have definitely made me feel like there's nothing an artist can do to make me like them as much as I used to anymore.

Eminem - Recovery (drained whatever small hope Relapse gave me forever)
Alicia Keys - whatever her last album was called, everything good about her was pretty much dead
Wiz Khalifa - Rolling Papers (to be fair I thought everything else he did besides Kush&OJ sucked too, but that tape was ROCKIN)
Method Man - Tical 0 or whatever the fuck that mess was called
Hold Steady - Stay Positive (this is an instance where I didn't even know they've released more albums, apparently two)



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Nas lost.

I think for people from Atlanta around my age, Luda feels like a close friend, since he was a radio personality that I'd been listening to since he was an intern. He just makes shittacular albums. His amazing guest features make his albums seem even more shitty.

Some other ones, just looking at my CD collection from my seat....

Whatever was the Ginuwine album after 100%, because there wasn't any Timbo production on there.

The first non-Bad Boy 112 album.

50's Curtis album.

Amerie's Touch album. I found I couldn't take a whole album of hers.

I don't really ever wanna hear another full Bone Thugs n Harmony album.

No more Chamillionaire albums or mixtapes.

No more Kelis albums if she's not gonna work with Pharrell or someone interesting.

I don't wanna hear Pimp C or Bun B solo again. It's evident when they don't have each other to play off of.

>I don't wanna hear Pimp C or Bun B solo again. It's evident
>when they don't have each other to play off of.

I stopped after the first Trill album.

Say what you will, but coming on the heels of Muddy Waters, I thought that LP was trash.

>Say what you will, but coming on the heels of Muddy Waters, I
>thought that LP was trash.

mostly because of production, even though the album was still pretty damn funny ("BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRUCK YOOOOOOOOOOU" and the Sooperman Lover song with the funny-ass beat)

He'd totally jumped the shark by then. Docs Da Name was pretty crummy too, and there were some okay joints on both of them, but the magic was gone. Unfortunately, the magic in his lyricism and delivery had left by the time he attempted a comeback.

He's still one of the all-time greats, though. Without a doubt.

I played it twice, never finished it once.

Without pain, without sacrifice, we would have nothing.-Tyler Durden

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I remember I bought UMC on the Zune marketplace for $1, that was when they were first launching. I bumped that shit front the back once, said "What the fuck?" (literally, out loud, by myself) and gave it another spin to make sure I wasn't trippin'. Never listened again; would've rather spent that $1 on a double cheeseburger.

People hate Finding Forever, but I fuck with that album tough. At least that had great records like Black Maybe, Start The Show, etc. UMC had nothing, IMO.

blu...stopped caring about him 3 wack/unofficial/unmastered lps ago

and a bunch of west coast veterans have been dropping nothing but garbage recently so yeah...i'm not checking for them anymore

still i feel like i'm giving these artists way too many chances...lol

but it kinda just showed that Common really wasn't going to be doing this "rapping" thing for much longer

he got lazy and it showed. Had it's moments but it was clear his focus was elsewhere.

and that Jennifer Aniston line was the death of him in my eyes.

...and he is one of my top 5 all time.

I just stopped caring after I heard those two lines.

But that album *was* pretty good. I liked it a lot better than Be, believe it or not.

its just rap music fellas, geez.

and the fact that he followed this up with UMC just proved it was a precursor to complete cornball status.

I haven't heard any of his new shit yet. I will eventually, but he lost me with that piece of buffalo.

I understand they just rushed something out to eat off of before he went back to prison, but still, that was disgustingly bad. Still boggles my mind that they didn't just put out a greatest hits album instead - would've done numbers, less money to spend, they could've added 1-2 new tracks as bonuses, and IMO, Tip arguably has the best singles catalog of any rap artist.

Hopefully the new shit is dope though. He's been sounding hungry on what I've heard him on recently.

.

they have a new album coming out really soon, and i barely care. SMH.

i was disappointed by Stakes Is High, but i gave them another shot w/Mosaic Thump. it was their last.

.

Mosaic Thump was pretty bland, but besides a couple tracks on Bionix, it's a really solid back to basics album.

And it has 'Trying People.' Automatic win.

~Austin

Well, in the context of Hip-Hop as a whole, I didn't hate it but in the context of the musical universe that De La Soul had created for themselves, it was so underwhelming it's not even funny... NOTHING I like about that band except some solid emceeing is there to be found, terribly dull record...

it hasn't aged that well though. i was listening to it recently and couldn't wait for it to go off.

...after those wack ass "Kamaal the Abstract" and "Live at the Renaissance" demos.

"The Renaissance" is one of the best hip hop albums of the past decade IMO. Love that shit.

>"The Renaissance" is one of the best hip hop albums of the
>past decade IMO. Love that shit.


Yep. I agree one hundred percent.

. . .and these flip-flopping mofos tried to take me to task for it:

http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=5&topic_id=2621948&mesg_id=2621948&listing_type=search#2622057

So be careful there, Mr. Haley.

~Austin

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>
>>"The Renaissance" is one of the best hip hop albums of the
>>past decade IMO. Love that shit.
>
>
>Yep. I agree one hundred percent.
>
>
>

totally in agreement. if people cant hear the beauty of that album
their ears are full of shit

The Renaissance was my favorite album the year it came out. It is basically the solo album Q-Tip/Tribe fans have been waiting for from him all along.

That Kamaal the Abstract album, although well made, was just not my style. Maybe I'll revisit it if I remember and I am in the mood, but my musical AD/HD prevents me from playing it all the way through.. It's not that it's bad, I just don't have the patience to let the songs ride out.


White Bronco.

I first heard it because my boy talked me into buying it for him back in like '96 but i didn't get what was so fly about it until like 3 months ago. i had bought the Black Album so that was more of my intro to Jay-Z than Reasonable Doubt, but I went all those years doubting the hype.

I was a big Chemical Brother's fan until Come With Us and i thought they fell off with that album...until I heard it a couple of years later and it was like listening to a completely different album. now i feel the same way about the Push the Button album.

I also stopped following De La after the Bionix album. i think i'm gonna have to give it another go, if only for the Grind Date.

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(or whateva the fuck that weedplate wuz called)

Heavy Mental was my shit, and I was really disappointed w/ this album. Haven't fucked with KP since.