And to be clear..."overrated" as in the song that you feel is seen as one of their best songs, if not best, whether commercially or by their own fanbase. And try not to do the usual, like "I think ALL 2Pac/Jay-Z songs are overrated"...just name the one that you really don't understand the hype about. It can even be a song that you like, but don't feel is as great as folks say.

So yea...we can do this one for Rappers only...just list the artist as a direct reply to this post.

Also, "Empire State of Mind" annoys the fuck out of me, but I think that's a result of everyone and everywhere playing it to death. I've never gotten so sick of a radio single without actually ever hearing it on the radio.

>Also, "Empire State of Mind" annoys the fuck out of me

this song, when I first heard it

"nice drums"

"...good lord this shit is FLAMBE, DAMN JAY"

Because 'Ain't No Nigga' did NOT do it for me and I had never heard 'Dead Presidents' (sue me). From there, I went back to RD and heard 'Politics as Usual' and was hooked ever since...

Not realizing it was me making the original response.

At least I'm consistent.

I'ma start doing this regularly. Just heavy co-signing myself for effect.

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"To Each His Reach"

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The sample is classic, but the song is just a dud is every imaginable way.

I think "Off That" was one, but I never hear/read anyone mention it.

fucking song

most overrated song of his (and thats saying something)

How you don't like Lyrics to go. I was expecting to heard Get a hold.

I like a LOT of tracks like "Everything is fair" and even some from The Love Movement more...I'd never skip it in the flow of an album, but never listen to it on it's own.

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for me, it's a case of having heard the original Minnie song they sampled

can't get past it.

and if you think that it is and it takes away from the enjoyment of the song, I'm curious as to why you feel that way

I don't even have words for a real response....

I dont get it at all... and im 30... Never liked that song.

It was a good song but never cared for it, even when it dropped, all my friends liked it, except me; the rest of the album is dope though.

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Stressed out or anything off Love Movement.

I kissed hella chicks to the remix in 4th grade. I didn't get the actual album until the reissue a few years ago, and was like EW! It's weird seeing people hype it up on here, cuz it's so ugly to me.

It's just one of those "you only like radio bullshit" elitist type attitudes that make it seem better

Similarly with Method Man's "You're All I Need", although I don't dislike the original version at all, just like the remix a hell of a lot better.

Glossy is what you get with the single...

I like both.

Guess they couldn't clear it, so we got what was on the album (which I didn't care for too much either). Even then, the Debarge beat wasn't epic.

Long story short, I agree.

Even if I did it twice. Again... consistency...

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it really doesn't do anything for me.

It felt like some lazy sampling to me. The original was TOO familiar.



Since 1976

If I never heard it again I'm good.

..definitely nothing off the first LP.

Yeah I liked a few songs especially the Premier produced songs but other than those and the original "Juicy" by Pete Rock and "Who Shot Ya", I wasn't diggin' his music.

That loop is just grating to me.

I use to ALWAYS skip "Raise It Up" for mad years, but once in a while I would let it play thru when listening to "Fantastic Vol.2" but the same goes for the released version of "Forth & Back" after listening to the leaked version of "Forth & Back" with the "Funkin' For Jamaica" sampled version.

if it weren't for this (and pharrell) this nigga would've faded into severe obscurity after 2001

And I think it's a cool-good song, just don't LOVE it, especially for a Snoop song. It was really a Neptunes song that ANYBODY at that level woulda made a hit on, such as Fabolous.

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Beautiful sucks balls.

The remix was way better, and the OG to me is played out and boring.

I still feel like there's a better answer here though.

It was cool, but I wasn't impressed by any of Tims beats from that album.

That song on Stillmatic, I think it was called rewind. The concept of telling a song in reverse was good but the story/plot and execution were terrible.. I wish someone like ghosface, biggie, or confusion had thought of the idea as they would have executed it a lot better..

Concepts alone do not make good songs.

doesn't hold up well over time.

I meant Organized Konfusion..

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yeah

Since 1976

similar to Rewind where the concept was better than the execution.

I remember when the album dropped and my boy thought I was going to love those songs and I was just like "they're cool" but the song doesn't live up to the concept.

lol

I see Nas wanted similar production to "Lose Yourself" with the calmness to loud vibe of the beat, I didn't even like Em's song but I can tell hip-hop fans wanted all their favorite rappers to go that route (or jump the bandwagon) and that's what Nas did.

His lyrics were okay but that beat sucked ass, I've heard remixes for both songs that were WAAAAAYYYYY better than those beats.

Good message, but kids singing the chorus gets annoying after the first listen.

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I love Nas, but yes. The sample is obvious. The chorus is painful.

These joints were some of the most hyped up of the I Am/Nastradamus era leaked tracks. They eventually made it onto Lost Tapes and are probably my 2 least favorite tracks on Lost Tapes.

A lot of Nas enthusiasts (and I count myself among that group) will still list these tracks when talking about Nas' best work, but they are both boring to me. Probably because of the lame beats, and the lazy ass flow on No Idea's Original. People love to quote this track as some sort of classic example of lyrical mastery, but I find it to have one of the most disjointed fragmented flows. The first half of the verse is pretty weak, the 2nd half picks up and has some quotables, but this shit wouldn't even be in my top 50 Nas verses.

>These joints were some of the most hyped up of the I
>Am/Nastradamus era leaked tracks. They eventually made it onto
>Lost Tapes and are probably my 2 least favorite tracks on Lost
>Tapes.
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>A lot of Nas enthusiasts (and I count myself among that group)
>will still list these tracks when talking about Nas' best
>work, but they are both boring to me. Probably because of the
>lame beats, and the lazy ass flow on No Idea's Original.
>People love to quote this track as some sort of classic
>example of lyrical mastery, but I find it to have one of the
>most disjointed fragmented flows. The first half of the verse
>is pretty weak, the 2nd half picks up and has some quotables,
>but this shit wouldn't even be in my top 50 Nas verses.

fullback from the Raiders.
The beat might not be everyone's taste but the story is highly engaging. And "No Ideas Original" didn't even get that much hype.

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I didn't say it was wack. Overrated is highly subjective.


Blaze a 50 wouldn't sniff my top 100 Nas joints, neither would No Idea's Original.


And the latter had plenty of hype, especially when Lost Tapes came out. The internets was riding that song hard. I used to frequent multiple Nas message boards at that time as well as places like SOHH and AHH, any place you found Nas stans you found people raving about that song.


All I'm saying is, they're my 2 least favorite songs from Lost Tapes and wouldn't clock my 100 favorite Nas joints.

boring ass beat, and Nas undermined our intelligence with the intro, "it's like I'm a gun." oh word?!

besides, OK executed the concept better 2 yrs prior with Stray Bullet.

Primo's piano keys/one note bass hit/offbeat drum programming is masterfully executed and propelled the story moreso than Nas' lyrics in my opinion

The whole of immobilarity...

It was pretty much panned

I always thought it was the weakest song on 36 Chambers and Cuban Linx. Just kinda uninteresting and convertional compared to the rest.

My favorite song on the album!

In fact, I've often called him the most criminally UNDERRATED artist in rap history. And I don't even think it's debatable.

Obvious answer. Good song, but not close to the cream of the crop when it comes to his catalog.

Shit was an ANTHEM. Party song.

PAC fresh outta prison. Ready to take over.

Dre pre Aftermath top tier status. Amped up beat. Even the remix.

Selling all those DOUBLE CDs off the strength of that single. back then double CDs were DOUBLE THE PRICE. Still bought it. Even the poor kids at school bought that album.

in all of that shit you typed, that's pretty telling

Cool song, but of the good songs on AEOM, it's my least favorite.

If it's not Biggie than it's Tupac kats seem to idolize like they really was spittin' something super lyrical, but then clown kats who do rhyme complicated double meaning phrases.

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never liked it

LOL but nah, that song bangs, although I think that album as a whole is SEVERELY overrated....I just do NOT see the appeal with 90% of the songs on it. Those random floaty fast boring beats, ehh!

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I actually hate to hear current rappers quote that shit, lol. And "Teach the truth, to the young black youth" always bothered me, especially when it was on the Teen Summit theme song.

That song is still great.

>I actually hate to hear current rappers quote that shit, lol.
>And "Teach the truth, to the young black youth" always
>bothered me, especially when it was on the Teen Summit theme
>song.

that is one of the best songs in hip-hop history.

that Deck verse is beyond great.

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I'm not going to front, I didn't care for it at first but after listening to the album a month or so (when it first dropped), it grew on me, but it being overrated is a negative.

It's not the norm for them so it fits to me, The Wu doesn't always have to be on some serious shit (ODB for example was fun with it), so to have a fast pace beat with them still spittin' the same stuff they usually spit was nice to me; plus the video is hilarious.

i still like it.

Most music listeners can't get with songs that don't have a catchy hook or chorus; and "Triumph" doesn't have one at all; but to me that's the whole genius of the song cause it reintroduced the members as Wu-Tang for their second album and it was just straight up lyrics being spat.

I damn sure wasn't a lyrical head back then, but even EYE learned that shit and was amazed...shit even made me look up Socrates in my Encyclopedia (remember those big ass books that inspired Wikipedia?)

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all this time i thought the song was bad, its actually not bad playing it again

That guitar riff is brilliant in its simplicity - pure hype in music form. And the rhyming is some of his best if you like internal rhyme.

Maybe a little too epic for abusive radio/video play (it dampens the message a little), but still that song is always going to be a classic.
What exactly is your issue with the song?
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while doing it over a beat that PEEEEEEEEEEEEERFECTLY matched the mood

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I hate that 'My Name Is' pigeon-holed him into having to make singles like that.

Chorus sucks, beat is typical eminem overproduced garbage. Not feelin it.

Like Horrendous.

n/m

I'd go with "Elevators" (good song but it's like my sixth favorite on just that one album) or "Ms. Jackson" (again - good song, but about my sixth favorite on that album; also the chorus and the "forever? forever ever?" bit were so catchy that they became instantly over-exposed).

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Yuck.

good choice.

I basically hate The Fugees version of this song, I barely liked Roberta's version.

never got into that one and i dug me some Cube back in the day.

I'd have to say Public Enemy: Fight The Power. Although I regard it as a high-caliber song, it really wasn't as lyrically powerful as some people seem to think. It was a load of angry-sounding sloganeering alongside the one line that grabbed a substantial degree of attention: "Elvis was a hero to most..."

93' Til Infinity

Production, flows, all on point

if anything, it's underrated.

I never cared for SOM either, their voices annoyed the hell out of me, back then east coast rappers had a deep voice while the west coast rappers had high pitched voices that irritated my ears.

Plus I had the Billy Cobham album with "Heather" for mad years since I was a kid so I knew about playing it on 45rpm to rhyme over it, so when somebody finally rhymed over it I was pissed it was these clowns ruining it.

It was six jazz albums I had when I was a young kid and played and rhymed over certain songs before I knew about sampling:

(1)Chico Hamilton "Chico & The Players"
(2)Young-Holt Unlimited "Oh Girl"
(3)David Newman "Front Money"
(4)Tom Scott with California Dreamers "Honeysuckle Breeze"
(5)Billy Cobham "Crosswinds"
(6)Herbie Hancock "Headhunters"