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2622312, A$ap Rocky: LiveLoveA$ap (link) Posted by mrshow, Mon Oct-31-11 06:36 PM
http://www.mediafire.com/?maubqoggkmo7fr9
Shit's DLing slow as fuck.
tracklist: Palace (prod. Clams Casino) Peso (prod. ASAP Ty Beats) Bass (prod. Clams Casino) Wassup (prod. Clams Casino) Brand New Guy (feat. ScHoolboy Q) (prod. Lyle) Purple Swag: Chapter 2 (feat. SpaceghostPurrp & ASAP Nast) (prod. ASAP Ty Beats) Get Lit (feat. Fat Tony) (prod. Soufein3000) Trilla (feat. ASAP Twelvy & ASAP Nast) (prod. Beautiful Lou) Keep It G (feat. Chace Infinite & Spaceghost Purrp) (prod. Spaceghost Purrp) Kissin’ Pink (feat. ASAP Ferg) (prod. Beautiful Lou) Houston Old Head (prod. DJ Burn One) Acid Drip (prod. Soufein3000) Leaf (feat. Main Attrakionz) (prod. Clams Casino) Roll One Up (prod. DJ Burn One) Demons (prod. Clams Casino) Out Of This World (prod. The Olympicks)
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2622322, 2 hours, 30 minutes left downloading. lmao Posted by im_freshhh, Mon Oct-31-11 06:43 PM
this shit just broke the internet. i'll try again later.
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2622329, clams casino, dj burn one, chace infinite, schoolboy q...damn i Posted by Hellyeah, Mon Oct-31-11 07:13 PM
might download this one
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2622338, If you can find a better link Posted by urbgriot, Mon Oct-31-11 07:26 PM
that would be cool that link ain't working
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2622350, try this Posted by mrshow, Mon Oct-31-11 07:43 PM
http://www.livemixtapes.com/download/15168/asap_rocky_liveloveaap.html
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2622342, 3 songs in. It's fucking dope. Posted by themaddfapper, Mon Oct-31-11 07:30 PM
Leaf Get Lit Peso
i started on shuffle, so after peso I'll listen to it in order as intended.
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2622348, artwork so sick Posted by Heinz, Mon Oct-31-11 07:37 PM
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2622351, alternative 6min link Posted by astralblak, Mon Oct-31-11 07:43 PM
http://www.nodjzone.com/2011/11/01/aap-rocky-%E2%80%93-live-love-aap/
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2622353, first impression...this is kinda corny Posted by Phreak, Mon Oct-31-11 07:50 PM
Its not like this kid doesn't have potential but this stuff feels forced. i don't know what it is, maybe its the south new york thing. Whole thing is just kinda corny and forced. And not really hitting like that. Theres a few ok tracks tho. But overall..theres a hipster vibe here thats just not dope
am i hatin???
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2622354, Well... Posted by mrshow, Mon Oct-31-11 07:53 PM
I don't think you're hatin but I think not being down with a NY artist making more or less "Southern" music is definitely going to inhibit your enjoyment of it.
>Theres a few ok tracks tho. But >overall..theres a hipster vibe here thats just not dope > >am i hatin???
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2622422, Yeah that might be the divisive issue Posted by lakai336, Mon Oct-31-11 11:55 PM
here. Kind of like OF and other new hip-hop acts, the hipster side of this shit is pretty obvious. I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing or takes away credibility. These young kids grew up in the internet era so of course what their exposed to is going to expand greatly.
If you prefer your hip-hop to be more, I don't know, I guess isolated. Like if you want your NY to be about NY Streets and sound like it was influenced by NY Producers and Rappers....then you're not going to like it.
Personally, I think this "hipster" bullshit is really pushing rap forward. Now you got producers that know about a lot more than hip-hop and their incorporating in their beats and making some dope shit.
Then again, I'm mostly talking production/overall sound here, if how ASAP Rocky raps doesn't appeal to you, then none of this matters lol.
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2622356, this nigga Rocky is cold. Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Mon Oct-31-11 07:55 PM
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2622363, YEP Posted by DaKidFromHaiti, Mon Oct-31-11 08:49 PM
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2622357, this is thumpin...can't wait to put this in the whip. Posted by PROMO, Mon Oct-31-11 07:56 PM
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2622457, RE: this is thumpin...can't wait to put this in the whip. Posted by trickescotto, Tue Nov-01-11 02:16 AM
touche. its already passed the headphone and weed test. tomorrow the whip and headphones on campus test.
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2622359, One listen in... Posted by mrshow, Mon Oct-31-11 08:14 PM
It's alot of fun. You kinda know what you're getting but it's enjoyable. The production/beat choice immaculate. ASAP isn't an amazing MC but he manages to synthesize all his different influences into something VERY listenable.
Clams Casino is about to be a very big problem. I'd love to hear him do some shit with Curren$y.
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2622396, When did it become less about the producer... Posted by BSharp, Mon Oct-31-11 11:04 PM
...and more about giving the rapper credit for "Beat choice."
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2622398, RE: When did it become less about the producer... Posted by Goose, Mon Oct-31-11 11:14 PM
Game and Rick Ross have been lauded for years for their "beat selection." and nas has been ridiculed for selecting bad beats. I think its one of the weakest ways to judge a rapper, but a lot of people do it and i guess there is some logic to it. but id rather give props to the beat maker, not the rapper for picking the beat.
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2622420, it's a great way to judge a rapper. Posted by Guinness, Mon Oct-31-11 11:49 PM
the beat is a big part of a song. rappers make songs.
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2626759, agreed! Posted by astralblak, Fri Nov-11-11 03:54 AM
that's why on pure skill/lyrics alone I don't hesitate to say Nas numero uno in the MC list, BUT when i think about that discog, he has a hard time cracking my top 10
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2622377, man A$AP is cool but i swear if Clams provides a beat Posted by LES, Mon Oct-31-11 09:37 PM
i'm pretty much fucking with the song
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2622475, RE: man A$AP is cool but i swear if Clams provides a beat Posted by Hellyeah, Tue Nov-01-11 05:37 AM
>i'm pretty much fucking with the song
^knows his shit...them clams beats is next level
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2622379, come collect your Ls, haters. Posted by Guinness, Mon Oct-31-11 09:45 PM
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2622383, killa kyleon makes this fool sound like a idiot. Posted by Binlahab, Mon Oct-31-11 10:04 PM
if you trying to get on some houston shit...like get ON the shit.
dont get w/ some half ass side bar cat thats just mimicing what he heard or thinks he heard! wtf is wrong w/ yall
this is like CLEARLY why nyc is wack in 2011
yall cosigning this kid
i mean...lol
its sad
dudes shit is...ok, shouldnt have even made it out the internet for real
*shrug*
do or die
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2622386, Disagree with you about Asap but... Posted by mrshow, Mon Oct-31-11 10:08 PM
that last Kyleon tape was so fucking slept on.
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2622388, stop crying. Posted by Guinness, Mon Oct-31-11 10:10 PM
rocky is the only dude that's made houston seem relevant since 2005.
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2622390, nigga killa kyleon been a weedcarrier since slim thug was hot. Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Mon Oct-31-11 10:13 PM
nobody gives a fuck about him.
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2622393, His shit is forced as hell Posted by COOLEHMAGAZINE, Mon Oct-31-11 10:58 PM
Only people in New York dropping a cosign on this dude are hipsters. "Peso" was cool but that's a great beat, the rest of his stuff is forced and forgettable.
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2622459, I read a really interesting article about regionalism earlier Posted by Nodima, Tue Nov-01-11 02:31 AM
about New Yorkers and Texans fighting to hold onto what they believe is rightfully theirs via Twitter/message boards
my stance is though, make good music
haven't heard this album yet, but Peso and Purple Swag are ridiculously good songs
I don't really care what city birthed them
Jadakiss is five hundred times the rapper ASAP is and every time he jocks a southern style on his albums it sounds like shit so
I say Rocky is doing right. oh well
~~~~~~~~~ "This is the streets, and I am the trap." © Jay Bilas
http://www.last.fm/user/NodimaChee
http://www.popmatters.com/pm/archive/contributor/517
http://rateyourmusic.com/list/Nodima/run_that_shit__nodimas_hip_hop_handbook
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2622496, what?! i'd love to read that, hit me w/ a link if you can find it Posted by Binlahab, Tue Nov-01-11 07:38 AM
far as im concerned the shit is blatant swagger jacking. something that at its core hip hop supposed to detest
you make your OWN lane, sounding like YOU & rapping abt shit that YOU & your friends wanna hear & if the marketplace likes it finds it dope then u win if not then you die, the end.
this cat rapping abt candy cars while living in manhattan? foh asap rocky
that would be just like a htown rapper...rapping abt taking the train to long island
the shit is stupid
do or die
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2622499, its actually done well tho... Posted by urbgriot, Tue Nov-01-11 07:56 AM
and thats not his entire sound.. Clams Casino sound is rather unique more like Wiz/Curre$y vibe than Screw..
I'm not really trippin about it, and I doubt a lot of Southern cats gonna really trip on it either..
He embraces a lot of regions too.. West Coast is repped as well..
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2622508, clams is actually from Jersey or some shit. And his shit is not Posted by T Reynolds, Tue Nov-01-11 08:10 AM
Southern at all, some people claim it's not even Hip-Hop it's electronic etc.
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2622587, yea i was gonna say some of these beats are pretty original Posted by mwasi kitoko, Tue Nov-01-11 10:19 AM
but the raps aren't moving me much *shrug*
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2622865, Local Twitter Slang & All That Jawn (swipe) Posted by Nodima, Tue Nov-01-11 10:09 PM
http://www.theawl.com/2011/10/local-twitter-slang-and-all-that-jawn
It's CRAZY long though.
~~~~~~~~~ "This is the streets, and I am the trap." © Jay Bilas
http://www.last.fm/user/NodimaChee
http://www.popmatters.com/pm/archive/contributor/517
http://rateyourmusic.com/list/Nodima/run_that_shit__nodimas_hip_hop_handbook
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2622502, Earlier NY rappers Posted by lakai336, Tue Nov-01-11 07:57 AM
who tried to rap over southern beats really fucking sucked on them. Jadakiss is definitely a prime example.
I think it's the often overlooked being able to ride a beat. This where NYer's can get mad lol. Super lyrical east coast rap doesn't really require much rhythm. They don't really ride over beats the way southern rappers do. They used to, like 80's and older NY rap did. But post illmatic, everybody just wanted to straight spit through songs and didn't care whether or not it really fell on the beat. Plus the production they used didn't really leave room for riding the beat anyway, it was like slow songs built to basically talk-rap over.
Southern beats, to do right, really do require rhythm. It's akin to dancing in a way (another reason rap nerds won't get it, they hate dancing lol), you have to time your shit correctly and flow just right to have that sound. You can't just straight spit through songs and achieve that.
Gucci Mane is better than nearly everyone at this, Lil' Wayne can do it, Rick Ross is presently doing it to everything he touches. East coast rappers weren't doing it.
This new breed gets it though and knows how to rap over those beats. Meek Mill and ASAP Rocky, if anything, show that East Coast heads should actually be proud of what these cats are doing. They bring more complicated East Coast rhymes to that smooth beat riding style.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgAsTLmdDk0
Specifically listen to 36 seconds in...that shit sounds perfect and is exactly how you should handle a beat like this. Smooth and shit. Other NY Rappers would've wasted this beat trying to rap through it with no sense of rhythm.
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2622509, ^^^Thiss Posted by Delajoo, Tue Nov-01-11 08:14 AM
my man, yes.
Don't forget Big Boi and Dre, twisting their flows into damn instruments basically.
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2622515, meek mills got his own thing tho. i fuck w/ him Posted by Binlahab, Tue Nov-01-11 08:23 AM
this cat...ok, fine im a hater whatever but cmon
do or die
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2622517, lol I'll give you that Posted by lakai336, Tue Nov-01-11 08:28 AM
Meek Mill does the same thing as far as rapping over southern ass beats but he doesn't do what seems to irk you most about ASAP Rocky....talk about topics usually related to regions he's not from.
He might rap over southern ass, lex luger (and similar) beats, but he generally talks about Philly and that life.
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2622525, thats what im saying! Posted by Binlahab, Tue Nov-01-11 08:42 AM
like i want rap to give me that portrait of how YOUR life is, give me the reality
if the reality is you on the subway & you got a mom & dad & hella suburban ala fresh prince..ok, COOL! thats your life, thats whats up
dont hit me w/ no fantasy land bullshit, thats not hip hop to me thats fairy tales
do or die
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2622524, i don't know where yall get this idea that most ny rappers are Posted by mwasi kitoko, Tue Nov-01-11 08:41 AM
'super lyrical' lol :/
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2622552, this is a good discussion. Posted by Guinness, Tue Nov-01-11 09:24 AM
i would argue that east coast rappers who thrived in the post boom-bap era have all been artists who were comfortable over diverse tempos. jay-z, fabolous, 50, camron, busta, minaj, etc. guys like nas or mobb deep who had more static deliveries struggled.
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2622575, this is why southern rappers are better. Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Tue Nov-01-11 09:59 AM
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2624289, overplayed your hand here, G. Kid ain't got it. Posted by Bombastic, Sat Nov-05-11 07:17 AM
.
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2622381, link to Complex interview Posted by astralblak, Mon Oct-31-11 09:47 PM
http://www.complex.com/music/2011/10/who-is-asap-rocky#1
so many quotables
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2622400, mmmm alot a filler Posted by DolphinTeef, Mon Oct-31-11 11:16 PM
his good shit i dope but i wasnt particularly feeling most of these new joints
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2622401, shit knocks Posted by trickescotto, Mon Oct-31-11 11:17 PM
kids nice, it doesnt hurt to have rediculous beats. lookin forward to hearin his shit with the hybrid.
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2622403, There are some good tunes on here... Posted by BSharp, Mon Oct-31-11 11:20 PM
One thing I'm confused about: Why the excessive use of the word 'trill'?
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2622414, for the folks beefin re: the southern influence... Posted by PROMO, Mon Oct-31-11 11:39 PM
i don't remember hearing the same complaints when drake dropped. maybe people did riff about that but i don't recall it.
it was definitely there.
just saying.
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2622421, thats like half the shit niggas bitch about regarding drake. Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Mon Oct-31-11 11:53 PM
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2622426, do they? Posted by PROMO, Tue Nov-01-11 12:28 AM
i don't remember hearing it. if so cool.
i was just thinking he's from Toronto which borrows the NYC sound...and is even FURTHER away from the south than NYC.
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2622431, he be channeling koopsta and lord infamous on some of these joints Posted by trickescotto, Tue Nov-01-11 12:49 AM
along with the obvious biggavell influence. people are gonna be throwing clams bread for beats of this.
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2622482, his daddy from Memphis tho and he spent time there Posted by Menphyel7, Tue Nov-01-11 06:55 AM
and he from CAnda so ain't no real Candian infulence we can say so he could come out sounding like anything.
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2622626, difference is htown basically adopted drake Posted by SeV, Tue Nov-01-11 11:55 AM
i doubt asap has even been to the city yet
he makes good music but its like i get the feelin he dont kno bout half the shyt he raps about
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2622418, After hearing Purple Swag for the first time Posted by lakai336, Mon Oct-31-11 11:46 PM
tonight and then seeing they got a version with Spaceghostpurrp now. Well it's done deal, I'm downloading.
Besides, I'm not from NY and I don't listen to TX rap enough to care whether or not he's channeling it. Same reason I don't care Spaceghostpurrp is busy being raised in Miami and making music like he's in Memphis Tennessee in the early 90's.
If they do it well and it's interesting music (What I've heard of ASAP is), then I'm all for it.
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2622443, This is dope as fuck Posted by Metal Face, Tue Nov-01-11 01:09 AM
some chill music. i prefer more lyrical shit but the vibe here is undeniable. i'm from nyc and i dig the houston/bone influence on here. it's a fresh sound and he managed to seperate himself from the stagnant nyc scene.
Clams Casino is a beast.
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2622448, Congrats to Beautiful Lou Posted by mrshow, Tue Nov-01-11 01:38 AM
Dude posts here a bit and is about to get alot more attention.
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2622729, This. Posted by rhymesandammo, Tue Nov-01-11 03:30 PM
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2622869, you're not the Lyle in the credits right? Posted by Nodima, Tue Nov-01-11 10:12 PM
for a moment I assumed but I haven't heard it yet and I figure you might have taken credit for it if true.
~~~~~~~~~ "This is the streets, and I am the trap." © Jay Bilas
http://www.last.fm/user/NodimaChee
http://www.popmatters.com/pm/archive/contributor/517
http://rateyourmusic.com/list/Nodima/run_that_shit__nodimas_hip_hop_handbook
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2623053, Nope. Oddly enough, a different Lyle who makes beats. Posted by rhymesandammo, Wed Nov-02-11 12:10 PM
The beat is hot, though, so I'm not complaining.
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2622461, i been listening to this shit all night since it dropped. Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Tue Nov-01-11 02:38 AM
i smoked to it. i chilled to it. i chopped it up w/ the niggas & bitches to it. i worked out to it.
this nigga Rocky is something special.
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2622472, RE: i been listening to this shit all night since it dropped. Posted by Hellyeah, Tue Nov-01-11 04:46 AM
>i smoked to it. i chilled to it. i chopped it up w/ the >niggas & bitches to it. i worked out to it.
you had a pretty intense night, didn't you?
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2622518, lol, exactly my thoughts reading this Posted by IslaSoul, Tue Nov-01-11 08:30 AM
I have to yet hear the album, I'll get to it in an hour or so.
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2622519, LOL! Posted by CMcMurtry, Tue Nov-01-11 08:31 AM
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2622630, lmao Posted by SeV, Tue Nov-01-11 11:57 AM
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2622652, naw it aint that deep Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Tue Nov-01-11 12:40 PM
Rocky just works in multiple settings. I couldnt listen to that Gibbs tape more than once yesterday even though it was aight.
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2622923, Meh, that's how I feel about this one Posted by Abstract8, Wed Nov-02-11 07:23 AM
>I couldnt listen to >that Gibbs tape more than once yesterday even though it was >aight.
been bumpin CDH a lot though
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2622696, *dead* Posted by quakka1, Tue Nov-01-11 02:08 PM
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2622500, Southern rap without Southern rappers??? I'M ON IT © Posted by T Reynolds, Tue Nov-01-11 07:56 AM
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2622527, album is dope as shit as much as it is corny tho Posted by Heinz, Tue Nov-01-11 08:46 AM
i'll keep bumping it and I'm rooting for the kid but lets not act what he's doing isn't lame and corny.
I know some NYers and more specifically Harlem kats are gonna ride for this guy cause you want him to blow up and Harlem can have another star. Trust me I get that. But what he's doing (even tho its done very well) is fucking corny. If this guy was from Philly all the NYers would be calling him on his shit. If he was from any city other than NY y'all would be saying the same shit. Stop pretending like you don't think its corny he jocking Houston so hard. (Again it sounds really good but thats besides the point). The same kats who complain about Drake doing Houston/southern joints. But guess what at least he had some kind of roots in Memphis lol
He should've had Bun, KRIT or Gibbs on this btw.
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2622555, ah, okay. Posted by Guinness, Tue Nov-01-11 09:27 AM
then you'll admit that a jewish kid from CANADA having a southern accent is "lame and corny," right?
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2622674, I already said that. Posted by Heinz, Tue Nov-01-11 01:25 PM
thanks for playing tho.
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2622704, Ummmm.... Posted by CMcMurtry, Tue Nov-01-11 02:22 PM
>jewish kid
What does his, or any artist's, religion have to do with anything?
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2622576, hurt alert. Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Tue Nov-01-11 10:00 AM
if all that concerns you (a general you, not you specifically) then you're overthinking it.
just listen.
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2622672, LMAO @ that Posted by Heinz, Tue Nov-01-11 01:25 PM
wow.
thanks for proving my point. Its only over thinking if its being critical of an NY rapper. awesome.
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2622679, its overthinking whenever. dead the victim complex b. Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Tue Nov-01-11 01:31 PM
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2622582, If the album is dope none of that extra shit matters Posted by Metal Face, Tue Nov-01-11 10:12 AM
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2622583, don't sweat it. Posted by Guinness, Tue Nov-01-11 10:14 AM
once he finds out that ASAP are drake are homeboys, he'll start slobbing the purple swag.
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2622675, I already knew that. Still doesn't make it cool. Posted by Heinz, Tue Nov-01-11 01:27 PM
So keep trying. Stop acting like you are hipping people to ASAP. smh.
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2622692, not sure where i "pretended" that. Posted by Guinness, Tue Nov-01-11 02:04 PM
except when i did.
http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=5&topic_id=2572808&mesg_id=2572808&listing_type=search#2574165
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2622589, thanks...thats all im hollering nm Posted by Binlahab, Tue Nov-01-11 10:20 AM
do or die
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2622565, i haven't smoked in 3 weeks so i don't get it. maybe if i was high Posted by mwasi kitoko, Tue Nov-01-11 09:41 AM
it's not horrible but it's not exactly amazing shit either *shrug* no hate. keep doing what ya do asap
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2622732, maybe im trippin. didnt you say this about The Weeknd shit too? Posted by DolphinTeef, Tue Nov-01-11 03:38 PM
lol
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2622747, lmao not at all i actually like the weeknd. i did say that after a Posted by mwasi kitoko, Tue Nov-01-11 03:57 PM
while i didn't feel like listening anymore but that's cause i played it out for myself. i revisited and i still like it.
you might remember me saying i have to get high to listen to thursday (at that point i hadn't even heard it yet i was just sayin the weeknd is good to get high to lol)
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2622761, oh ok lol Posted by DolphinTeef, Tue Nov-01-11 04:13 PM
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2622591, He's never been to Houston, he's a bonafide douche Posted by atruhead, Tue Nov-01-11 10:22 AM
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2622594, i really laughed out loud just now Posted by mwasi kitoko, Tue Nov-01-11 10:37 AM
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2622634, so for the cats dissing asap for sounding southern Posted by d-bwoyFLOW, Tue Nov-01-11 12:05 PM
what were yr opinions when masta ace dropped sittin' on chrome?
do ya'll think sittin on chrome a classic?
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2622926, Sittin on Chrome was a concept album though Posted by Abstract8, Wed Nov-02-11 07:28 AM
and was intended to have a west coast sound.
this is the sound asap's had
and yea I love Sittin on Chrome
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2623361, or Dialated and Little Brother for that matter Posted by mrshow, Wed Nov-02-11 10:15 PM
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2622659, cant wait to hear, and hate on this. Posted by woe.is.me., Tue Nov-01-11 12:57 PM
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2622701, From listening to this cat Posted by soken, Tue Nov-01-11 02:10 PM
maybe I am just out of the loop on the ear for his music or his music is just not for me. pass.
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2622725, i wonder what the long-term affects of this tape will be Posted by bearfield, Tue Nov-01-11 03:25 PM
will it do for "cloud rap" what 'Flockaveli' did for lex luger-ish (for lack of a better term) beats? is this a legitimization of the sound that has been bubbling in the underground for a few years now? will we soon hear rick ross rapping over "light", quixotic, what-would-have-been-considered-soft-only-a-few-years-ago beats?
as for the content of the tape itself: meh. rocky is ok on the mic. he seems to have some charisma and good presence i guess. i wouldn't go out of my way to listen to him. i do like the fact that he's from NY and is heavily influenced by the houston and other non-NY sounds. might as well embrace your influences, right? look at krit. he sounds exactly like a kid that grew up listening to nothing but ugk and outkast all day and he seems to be accepted as being the direct product of his influences. regionalism in rap is just about dead anyway. ofwgtka sound pretty pan/non-regional to me and currensy would too, if not for his accent
the beats are good, but i feel like i've heard them all before on main attraktionz and lil b tapes. i'm glad clams is getting his and i hope this gets his name out there more
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2622730, What's your opinion on this tape vs Main Attrakionz shit? Posted by DolphinTeef, Tue Nov-01-11 03:37 PM
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2622745, this tape seems to be of a higher quality than MA tapes Posted by bearfield, Tue Nov-01-11 03:55 PM
meaning it looks and sounds like it was produced by a team of professionals, vs main attraktionz DIY/bedroom style (not counting '808s + dark grapes'). danny brown said it best: "main attrakt, cloud rap/lo-fi indie rap? dog i'm fuckin with that"
even though i can't stand to hear them rap at times (they're really not very good rappers + squadda's voice can be genuinely annoying), i like main attraktionz more than asap rocky. they seem very grounded and relatively humble, while rocky is cultivating a larger-than-life persona so he has something to live up to. the first time i heard rocky was on '808s and dark grapes' and he was rapping about being sick of being famous ("get off my dick!"? i didn't even think you were well known enough to have folks on there...) i was a little shocked to find that he hadn't even released a tape yet. MA raps through their lives or maybe they're just putting their lives on record. rocky is putting the life he wants on record
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2622760, Yup, I'm thinking the exact same thing. Posted by DolphinTeef, Tue Nov-01-11 04:12 PM
I actually hated Squadda prior to "808s..." but now im fuckin wit dude.
ASAP's hype just seems odd to me. Im beginning to think he must be managed by some dude who's inner circle is hella hipster bloggers. The NY Times piece was waay premature.
you can actually see MA's grind and trajectory
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2622728, The only critique/complaint Posted by lakai336, Tue Nov-01-11 03:26 PM
I have is that ASAP Rocky is biting a lot of people quite a bit. I'm not talking about the already established and explained Houston/TX Rap shit. He already cops to that, I'm pretty sure there's a song on here where he has a line saying Houston rap influenced him and such.
I'm talking about other shit he's biting that fans won't admit. He's biting Wiz Khalifa hard in terms of flow and lyrical content with that swagged out smoked out shit. Which since Wiz jocks Currensy so hard, it means he's also automatically biting Currensy lol.
He's also biting OF pretty hard with the whole anti-establishment, fuck your style of hip-hop attitude. His voice and flow really remind of Hodgy Beats, often times in excess.
Finally, he's doing this call myself a "pretty mothafucka" in a post Lil' B world. That's some heavy swagger jacking there indeed.
The only thing he really does to differentiate himself from the above mentioned is put in a lot of TX influenced shit and rap over fairly unique, extremely banging productions.
Not to say that this makes the album any less enjoyable as far as sound goes....but lack of originality is a fairly big thing for me so it will certainly prevent him from dethroning anybody in my top of 2011 list.
So you guys know I'm not a hater. I happen to like this album and think will be playing it quite a bit in the months to come I'm sure. I'm just keeping a realistic perspective and saying that the guy has to kind of grow into his own as a rapper if he's really going to be worthy of best of lists and that kind of acclaim.
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2622755, I think the similarities in his voice to Hodgy Posted by daskap, Tue Nov-01-11 04:08 PM
is what prompted Hodgy's "ASAP Copy" comment, he does sound like dude alot and the "Acid Drip" joint sounds just like an OF song.
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2622764, Didn't know anyone spoke on it Posted by lakai336, Tue Nov-01-11 04:16 PM
but yeah reminds of Hodgy for sure. Hodgy Beats it the only OF member that doesn't sound like he's from California (heard he's originally from NJ or spent his childhood there).
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2622765, those critiques are probably fair. Posted by Guinness, Tue Nov-01-11 04:19 PM
what's interesting is that his production choices have allowed him to create a "sound" without necessarily doing it vocally. that said, he's a very good rapper and we're talking about whether or not he's a fully formed artist despite having a grand total of one mixtape out for one day. shit, it took wiz six years of reinvention to find something that worked. my hunch is that rocky sheds a lot of the houston stuff when he drops his real debut album.
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2622781, True true, it is a bit soon Posted by lakai336, Tue Nov-01-11 05:10 PM
I do hope that the debut shows a lot more of who he actually is and less of what influenced him/what he likes.
http://pitchfork.com/news/44436-aap-rocky-talks-3-million-record-deal-mainstream-acceptance/
I like how he presents himself so I'm sure he's capable of using his own personality more and developing his own style.
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2622822, To me this shows his potential Posted by lakai336, Tue Nov-01-11 07:30 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1J5Y1lUSPE&feature=related
Like hearing him talking about that kind of shit.
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2625075, how when this is part of who he is Posted by southphillyman, Mon Nov-07-11 09:48 PM
>hunch is that rocky sheds a lot of the houston stuff when he >drops his real debut album.
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2622766, RE: The only critique/complaint Posted by mrshow, Tue Nov-01-11 04:19 PM
>I'm talking about other shit he's biting that fans won't >admit. He's biting Wiz Khalifa hard in terms of flow and >lyrical content with that swagged out smoked out shit. Which >since Wiz jocks Currensy so hard, it means he's also >automatically biting Currensy lol.
The Wiz influence is more about him being influences Max B (whose sing-song style Wiz bit). The Bone Thugs influence is incredibly prevalent on alot of these songs too.
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2623302, this is correct Posted by astralblak, Wed Nov-02-11 08:43 PM
its Max B, than er'body else
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2622731, his rapping doesn't work on these beats Posted by Reuben, Tue Nov-01-11 03:37 PM
he's really nor skilled enough nor is h interesting
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2622750, peso prolly the best hip hop song of 2011 Posted by d-bwoyFLOW, Tue Nov-01-11 04:03 PM
already a classic
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2622759, one yourself. Posted by atruhead, Tue Nov-01-11 04:12 PM
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2622763, CORRECTION: peso prolly the best hip hop BEAT of 2011 Posted by DolphinTeef, Tue Nov-01-11 04:15 PM
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2622770, ^^^^ give all these beats to someone else Posted by Reuben, Tue Nov-01-11 04:33 PM
asap sound like amateur hour
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2622775, the most egregious example is on "Demons" Posted by DolphinTeef, Tue Nov-01-11 04:41 PM
it sounds like one of those 'fan mashups' on youtube where they take an acapella and lay it on top of some random beat they like. Complete disregard for 'the pocket'.
Now I think ASAP is good where most rappers fail...having fun. But he still needs to put in work to reach a fully developed, undeniable sound.
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2622779, yeh he really needs to build his own style more Posted by Reuben, Tue Nov-01-11 05:03 PM
synthesis is cool but it usually works when its effortless and organic
something about his shit just don't hang together
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2622864, must be smoking sherm sticks nm Posted by Binlahab, Tue Nov-01-11 10:07 PM
do or die
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2622773, so is Aesop Rock pissed that this fool basically jacked his name? Posted by fontgangsta, Tue Nov-01-11 04:37 PM
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2622774, no. Posted by Guinness, Tue Nov-01-11 04:38 PM
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2622777, thx for clearing that up Posted by fontgangsta, Tue Nov-01-11 04:47 PM
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2622788, np Posted by Guinness, Tue Nov-01-11 05:23 PM
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2622780, The song with Schoolboy Q works better than I thought Posted by mrshow, Tue Nov-01-11 05:04 PM
The combo didn't make much sense to me when I first heard about it but Im enjoying the fuck out of it. The part where they go line-for-line in the end in particular.
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2622842, this is god fucking awful Posted by atruhead, Tue Nov-01-11 08:49 PM
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2622853, *scratches head* but you like Odd Future Posted by urbgriot, Tue Nov-01-11 09:33 PM
and this is awful... **shrugs**
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2622996, I can link up 2007-2008 OF shit that slays this mixtape Posted by atruhead, Wed Nov-02-11 10:30 AM
you cant be serious
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2623008, no you cant lol. and i'm an OF fan Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Wed Nov-02-11 11:00 AM
only OF stuff fucking w/ LiveLoveASAP is Earl, Bastard & the Mellowhype albums
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2623014, The Odd Future compilation > LiveLove ASAP Posted by atruhead, Wed Nov-02-11 11:08 AM
that's 2008 material
Casey Veggies at 15 was better than Asap Rocky as a rapper
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2623055, Get off that Posted by lakai336, Wed Nov-02-11 12:14 PM
OF birthed his style.
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2622854, *scratches head* but you like Odd Future Posted by urbgriot, Tue Nov-01-11 09:33 PM
and this is awful... **shrugs**
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2622936, odd future is waaaaaay more interesting than this nigga. Posted by mwasi kitoko, Wed Nov-02-11 08:17 AM
sonically and concept wise
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2622850, so garbage. Posted by Sunny D, Tue Nov-01-11 09:28 PM
get it together new york
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2622900, I'd put Meth & Rae on a "Bass" remix. Posted by JFrost1117, Wed Nov-02-11 12:12 AM
Shit sounds like a new-school Wu song (in a good way).
Rocky keeps resorting back to the same flow, but the beats are interesting enough to drown him out.
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2622908, It's enjoyable ,he raps alot like Dave Chappelle's 2pac impression Posted by IslaSoul, Wed Nov-02-11 02:29 AM
beats are cool
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2623009, And Rocky Doesn't Hate NY Rap (or gays) after all (My Swipe-Interview) Posted by murph71, Wed Nov-02-11 11:00 AM
VIBE A$AP Rocky Talks Debut Album, Musical Influences, and Accepting Gay Fans
link: http://www.vibe.com/posts/aap-rocky-talks-debut-album-musical-influences-and-accepting-gay-fans
When you’ve signed a $3 million record deal and are being pegged as New York’s next game-changing superstar by a bevy of artists and the music press, such unmitigated hype can be crushing. Yet 23-year old Harlem spitter Rocky A$AP welcomes all expectations. The spacey, slang-driven, highly southern rap influenced rhymer—who signed a lucrative deal with Polo Grounds/RCA and recently dropped his buzz-heavy mixtape LiveLoveA$AP—does not fit the mode of the conventional East Coast MC. At times his witty, stoner-guided music sounds like what would happen if Harlem World’s seminal clique The Diplomats were born and raised in Houston, Texas instead of the Rotten Apple.
“When I was 11, my favorite song was Three 6 Mafia’s “Sippin’ On Some Syrup,” he says to VIBE of the Dirty South classic. “I used to go crazy when that song came on! I didn’t known they were talking about that lean. I thought they were talking about pancake syrup . But I just knew I loved it. Honestly, I’ve been influenced by everything…from Dipset, Mobb Deep and the Wu-Tang Clan to No Limit, Cash Money, UGK and Bone Thugs N Harmony. I think with all of those influences I have been able to use them to my advantage because it helps me be more diverse as an artist.”
Rocky, who first made waves with his Internet hit “Peso” this past summer, says that cosigns by the headlining likes of Drake (he is set to go out on the Young Money MC’s upcoming Club Paradise Tour) and write-ups in such respected publications as The New York Times, won’t affect his grind. Rocky claims that he is already busy at work on his solo studio debut. “I’m going to give this whole mixtape some time to die out,” he says of his current underground release. “I can say that I’m about a good six tracks done for my Long Live A$SAP album. I’m not going to let the fans down.”
And those fans include a diverse cross-demographic base that may surprise some followers. “I’m respected by all the respected fashion blogs,” he says. “It’s all about diversity. I don’t give a fuck if you white, black, brown or yellow. I really just want to keep the peace. I really love people for who they are. I’m not gay or anything like that, but even gay people—they can be fans too. All the designer stuff I wear is made by gay people. I used to be an ignorant, homophobic cat. I didn’t know any better…I was young. Now that I’m knowledgeable about life all this shit has made me a better person. I feel like the world can be a better place if we learn how to accept each other for who we are.”—K. Murphy (murphdogg29)
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2623016, his publicist got in his ear after that Complex piece, I guess Posted by atruhead, Wed Nov-02-11 11:09 AM
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2623018, RE: his publicist got in his ear after that Complex piece, I guess Posted by murph71, Wed Nov-02-11 11:16 AM
Nah...the part I didn't put in there (saving it for another piece) is that he told me he HATES modern NY MC's...He hates modern NY Hip-Hop...He was even rapping (making fun of) some of that current NY rhyme cadence...He says he loves '90s hip-hop better... He said he is especially a DMX STAN...And he says he wished he was a member of the Wu...
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2623359, So he's a Lessonhead Posted by mrshow, Wed Nov-02-11 10:14 PM
> > > >Nah...the part I didn't put in there (saving it for another >piece) is that he told me he HATES modern NY MC's...He hates >modern NY Hip-Hop...
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2623491, RE: So he's a Lessonhead Posted by murph71, Thu Nov-03-11 10:00 AM
lol...
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2623153, *thinks of joke re: dj premier being from houston* Posted by Small Pro, Wed Nov-02-11 03:00 PM
I like this guy. He's a better rapper than people will give him credit for, and I applaud his vision for his music, this mixtape sounds as cohesive as an album where most sound cobbled together. I'll be bumping this from time to time for sure.
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2623305, posters callin' this terrible are full of shit Posted by astralblak, Wed Nov-02-11 08:49 PM
Rocky creates an atmosphere/mood throughout the record, and even though the Houston critiques are valid, they are over-stated. There is a lot of great music on this mixtape and it seems like he's only going to grow.
my critique is it's 3-4 songs too long and the guest kinda outshine him and he tends to get lost on his own record
7.5 maybe 8 out of 10
lastly, why the fuck was "Get High" NOT on this!?!! its easily better than half of the record
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2623320, For sure brother Posted by lakai336, Wed Nov-02-11 09:19 PM
This is one of those strange releases. Today I was listening on the way to school and I wasn't feeling it as much. The best song in my opinion is by far Trilla. Props to Beautiful Lou, I can't get enough of that beat. I also happen to like ASAP's flow on this more than a lot of other songs. So during that car ride, the only one I wanted to hear was Trilla, the rest (Including the much lauded Peso) sounding boring as hell to me.
The ride home was a different story . This album is perfect for a long, night time drive. All of sudden the vibe was clicking with me.
I was ready to say this isn't going to have any replay value, but I can see this sounding good in a variety of settings/moods, so if anything I expect to like it more with further listens.
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2623338, agreed. when i first heard it... Posted by astralblak, Wed Nov-02-11 09:41 PM
the night it dropped, i was like this will get a few spins, but this morning and later today i was like alright imma be playing a good 6-8 of these songs for a couple of months. right now my favorites are:
Peso Trilla Keep It G Leaf Purple Swag: Chapter Two
these are high quality as well: Bass Roll On Up Wassup Kissin Pink
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2623330, 11 songs in, and it's not really grabbing me. It's not wack though Posted by mrhood75, Wed Nov-02-11 09:33 PM
Not life changing or anything either. Probably need to listen to it at least once more to get a better feel for it.
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2623348, fuck this shit, b. this is dickhole rap, famz Posted by Mash_Comp, Wed Nov-02-11 09:46 PM
shit is deplorable and the fact the soot bunny never been to Houston is fucking wild although he got every style point ever made from the city.
i mean at this rate, the bamma should just say "hey i want some texas frankfurter in my brown eye" for all this cockpuffery of houston he's doing.
some of the beats is aight and schoolboy q had the best verse on the shits. i dunno, bro. i don't ever like to down rappers so hard but this dude fucking sucks and i smoke a lot of medicinal and i have sipped lean and definitely smoked boat and even none of them shits would make me like this fuck ass shit.
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2623354, lol Posted by DolphinTeef, Wed Nov-02-11 09:52 PM
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2623360, ^^^This reply is kinda funny tho. Can't lie Posted by mrhood75, Wed Nov-02-11 10:15 PM
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2623364, lmao @ soot bunny Posted by daskap, Wed Nov-02-11 10:23 PM
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2623366, funny take, but i disagree. Posted by Guinness, Wed Nov-02-11 10:25 PM
think you're getting a bit caught up in the houston shit. rocky is a talented rapper, a reasonably good songwriter and the beats are dope. it's a very listenable mixtape unless you're hung up on things unrelated to the actual music.
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2623415, HAHAHAHAAHA at him being a talented rapper Posted by Reuben, Thu Nov-03-11 03:29 AM
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2623465, lulz? Posted by Guinness, Thu Nov-03-11 08:49 AM
i'm not sure what "talented" means to you, but he uses tons of multis, switches his cadence regularly and has a good vocabulary. you sound like a hater though.
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2623423, I'd say hes' a more "interesting" rapper than "talented" Posted by mrshow, Thu Nov-03-11 03:53 AM
I think theres the seeds of a potentially very good rapper in him though provided he really finds his voice. He's definitely improved since his last tape "Deep Purple" though
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2623802, RE: I'd say hes' a more "interesting" rapper than "talented" Posted by blakegriffin32, Fri Nov-04-11 12:35 AM
>I think theres the seeds of a potentially very good rapper in >him though provided he really finds his voice. He's >definitely improved since his last tape "Deep Purple" though
that's not a tape. this is his first release.
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2623487, to be fair, my loosie bro.... Posted by Mash_Comp, Thu Nov-03-11 09:48 AM
...I'm being harsh because it simply doesn't jive with me nor the hype of it all. That said, I could care less about the regional swipe/bite. I really think the kid is holding himself back and it's beyond obvious he has a command of words based on the two big interviews he just did.
I will give him this: it's really interesting/compelling stuff considering his whole style from fashion to rhymes to cadence.
But it also isn't very well done. It becomes rote. Fast.
>think you're getting a bit caught up in the houston shit. >rocky is a talented rapper, a reasonably good songwriter and >the beats are dope. it's a very listenable mixtape unless >you're hung up on things unrelated to the actual music.
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2623494, that's what's blowing him up Posted by atruhead, Thu Nov-03-11 10:13 AM
>think you're getting a bit caught up in the houston shit. >you're hung up on things unrelated to the actual music.
Mr. Muthafuckin Exquire didnt skyrocket with Huzzah because he's from New York and sounds like it
ASAP Rocky cooned his way to the top
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2623607, i really do wonder why exquire isnt as talked about Posted by Von Pea, Thu Nov-03-11 01:30 PM
maybe thats really what it is
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2623622, "publicist asked what's my gimmick, I said going in" Posted by atruhead, Thu Nov-03-11 02:10 PM
he just raps the best he can over hard beats
even the El-P connection only helped but so much with "real" music heads
people are impressed by everything other than the music, then they use that to pretend the music is good
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2623930, YEP Posted by mwasi kitoko, Fri Nov-04-11 11:12 AM
>people are impressed by everything other than the music, then >they use that to pretend the music is good
then turn it around on some 'you only don't like him for stuff that has nothing to do with his music' lol
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2624063, same way i feel bout them Fetal Alcohol Syndrome lookin niggas in yr avy Posted by Billy Mays, Fri Nov-04-11 03:15 PM
>people are impressed by everything other than the music, then >they use that to pretend the music is good
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2623804, Naw Posted by mrshow, Fri Nov-04-11 12:39 AM
Exquire's sound isn't as accesible as Rocky's. Also, a fairly large contingent of the people who would actually like Exquire pride themselves on disliking any new music.
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2623928, i fixed that for you Posted by atruhead, Fri Nov-04-11 11:08 AM
a >fairly large contingent of the people who would actually like >Exquire pride themselves on disliking any new trendy fuckboy hipster music.
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2623974, Lil B titling his album "I'm Gay" still make you angry, doesn't it? Posted by mrshow, Fri Nov-04-11 12:35 PM
For every hipster, there's 20 messagboard trolls thinking/worrying about him/her. Stop looking at some dude's skinny jeans and start listening to the music, dun.
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2624482, Im a Lil B fan, Asap Rocky sucks Posted by atruhead, Sun Nov-06-11 07:48 AM
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2623358, I don't see what lots of people are seeing in this guy Posted by Kosa12, Wed Nov-02-11 10:08 PM
he really isn't that good at rapping....or that bad either
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2623551, finally heard it. enjoy it for the most part. Posted by sweeneykovar, Thu Nov-03-11 11:57 AM
some people are maaaaaad lol
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2623605, yea the novelty has worn off already Posted by SeV, Thu Nov-03-11 01:29 PM
dude has some good songs and he aint no slouch on the mic
but the more i listen to the ish the more corny the ish gets
i seriously doubt he would kno what half the shyt he raps about is if it werent from urbandictionary.com
add on that hes never even been to houston just makes it worse
plus him having no clear style on his own is a problem too
last night i bumped this in the whip and my boy(who had never heard of him before) thought it was wiz until i said sutten
anyway
if he drops some heat imma still bump it
but its goin to be a struggle to take him serious ____________
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2624032, whatever this shit is, it's good to me Posted by Mgmt, Fri Nov-04-11 02:19 PM
Good for the ride. I see ya'll are all up in arms because he didn't make a pilgrimage to h-town. FOH (and I am born, raised, and live in Houston).
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2624288, Man This Kid's Shelf-Life Is Gonna Be Cottage Cheese Status Posted by Bombastic, Sat Nov-05-11 07:15 AM
this is the danger of the internet era, a kid who's obviously got some talent in terms of flow still hasn't developed any real pen game, identity or reason we should give a fuck about him.
'Peso' is cool but not really due to dude, 'Trilla' Lou laced but I couldn't tell you one word on it but the Das-EFX hook I've known since I was younger than ASAP, the rest of this shit is mostly boring or just bad & got worse as it went on.
Yet somehow this young dude has a 'movement' already & minions he's putting on.
It's akin to what if we heard a weak-voiced Jigga doing double-time rhymes about nothing at the dawn of the 90's & that was our album-length introduction.
Artists cook at different paces & this kid needed to be put back on the grill for at least 10 more minutes.
And *still* might give you salmonella poisoning.
The difference between this kid & a young kid like Kendrick Lamar is striking.
Honestly by sheer force of personality, humor, etc Based God kills this kid.
When the backlash comes this dude should hide out for awhile & come back years later when he has something to say.
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2624361, you in the minority with that opinion Posted by astralblak, Sat Nov-05-11 02:28 PM
he has a GREAT ear for beats and creates a great mood/atmosphere thru the whole record, which is something many younger artist don't know how to do. Is he a great rapper? NO, but he is good. does he have a presence personality? yes, in fact the way he changes cadences and flows is a strong quality.
and LOL @ anybody claiming the clown Lil' B got anymore anything than anybody. he is nothing but novelty, Rocky will be more popular and release better music than The Pretty Bitch.
Kendrick is a whole different animal... only Gibbs and Danny Brown better than him from the new crop
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2624414, I could give a shit if Im in 'the minority' by ur silly-ass measurements Posted by Bombastic, Sat Nov-05-11 06:29 PM
I already said there's some good beats on here plus he can flow a bit but he's got absolutely nothing to say & this shit has no staying power.
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2624435, this is key Posted by DolphinTeef, Sat Nov-05-11 08:15 PM
>he's got absolutely nothing to say & this shit >has no staying power.
Gibbs, Danny Brown, Kendrick, eXquire(!!!) and SOMETIMES Lil B all got shit to say.
Rocky is a kid with no real life experience. Kendrick is young but he's shockingly observant and introspective.
Rocky will get better with age...we could see him surpass all them dudes by next release...who knows.
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2624548, who gives a flying fuck if hes got shit to say Posted by astralblak, Sun Nov-06-11 06:00 PM
it's rap. some rappers got insightful, profound, or political shit to say based on experiences and observations/readings, others (most) don't say a fucn thing but i'm fly, do drugs and fuck bitches. great critique there.
just say you don't like it, that's fine, but he will be around just as long as any of the new crop of rappers and i wouldn't be surprised if he ended doing albums that sounded more like the last song or in Wiz cross-over/sell-out lane
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2626620, I articulated my issues in the OG reply, aint my fault ur mad about it Posted by Bombastic, Thu Nov-10-11 06:40 PM
that was my bare-bones critical assessment of this shit & about what it's worth in terms of thought as a week later I'm already close to forgetting this 'album'.
but you keep coming back with these 'lots of other people like him!' and 'no rappers really say anything!' simple-ass replies.
FOH.
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2625919, There it is again. Posted by BSharp, Wed Nov-09-11 12:45 PM
"Great ear for beats"
How do we know he's picking these beats? And the concept of giving a rapper credit for picking good beats bugs the fuck out of me. He's not a DJ.
Rappers should be able to rap well, and with a unique style. It's clear that Clams Casino has created a style that he can ride off of. I don't think that ASAPLOVELIFE (is that what it's called?) is a bad listen, but to suggest that he's the savior of anything rap-related is absurd when he's barely being judged for the rapping.
>he has a GREAT ear for beats and creates a great >mood/atmosphere thru the whole record, which is something many >younger artist don't know how to do. Is he a great rapper? NO, >but he is good. does he have a presence personality? yes, in >fact the way he changes cadences and flows is a strong >quality. > >and LOL @ anybody claiming the clown Lil' B got anymore >anything than anybody. he is nothing but novelty, Rocky will >be more popular and release better music than The Pretty >Bitch. > >Kendrick is a whole different animal... only Gibbs and Danny >Brown better than him from the new crop
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2624727, I have a feeling that if Souls of Mischief dropped '93 Til Infinity Posted by T Reynolds, Mon Nov-07-11 08:51 AM
RIGHT TODAY
you would be like
what are they talking about? this is terrible. I hate it. the beat's ok i guess. but the guys rapping? seriously?
'chillin in the cooler, break out the ruler?'
'and plus it's famous... so hit the anus?'
is this what hip hop has come to?
lol
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2626715, ha, actually was never really a big Souls of Mischief fan then or now Posted by Bombastic, Thu Nov-10-11 11:57 PM
They were like a more rappity-rap/esoteric but less entertaining version of Pharcyde to me when they dropped.
But as for this ASAP shit, you & I can't even discuss it anymore, you think '4 Loko' is tough.
I honestly expected LiveLoveASAP to be better based off 'Peso' & 'Trilla' but by the time I was done it felt like I just sat through a movie where the two biggest laughs were in the trailer.
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2624318, RE: I Like What I Hear Posted by Robinson Pearl, Sat Nov-05-11 10:59 AM
... but as some previous posters stated, I don't know if ASAP deserves most of the credit for that.
The production is what really caught my ears. ASAP for the most part, just keeps things moving.
He's an average MC that can occasionally craft an above-average song. I can't really see anybody dying to have him make a guest appearance on a track unless they're trying to cash-in on his buzz, and/or he's bringing his producers with him.
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2624417, Everyone's take after 5 days or so? Posted by mrshow, Sat Nov-05-11 06:41 PM
I have to say im still enjoying the fuck out of it. As an MC, ASAP is still clearly finding his voice but the hooks and production more than make up for it (so far). Dude is definitely more in a Wiz Khalifa/Drake mode than guys like Danny Brown or Kendrick. As much as enjoy shit like Peso and Kissin Pink, I still appreciate an MC like Curren$y more. That dude's subject matter is pretty shallow too but he is able to say dumb shit in a "smart" way.
Clams, Beautiful Lou and Burn One deserve to get some major placement after their works on this (not that they already didn't). I'd love to hear Spitta over alot of these beats.
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2624432, I was going to make a post Posted by lakai336, Sat Nov-05-11 08:04 PM
about giving up on hating on Currensy and realizing he's potentially the GOAT of Swag Rapping lol (behind Jay-Z back when Jay popularized the style). He does rap about shallow shit, but he's so fucking good at it/detailed/clever that he makes it deep. I don't know, it's like a talented director tackling some issue in a film that you don't give a fuck about...you might wish he'd cover something more relevant...but you can't deny he did a good job.
As for LiveLoveASAP. It continues to grow on me/get stuck in my head. The beats are just undeniable. I still think he's average as hell on the mic, but it doesn't matter really 'cause this album is clearly built on sound, not content or technical ability. I mean even if he's biting heavy, he knows how to ride the beats well and the songs just seem to get better with repeated listens.
All in all, I'd say it's not really worth the buzz it's generated but definitely still counts as strong hip-hop release. I see the potential brewing and I hope him and the crew he rolls with realizes it. Kind of like one of his affiliates, Spaceghostpurrp, they're doing something new. People have done the NY throw back (see Roc Marciano), but nobody's really revived the old, raw south sounds yet, to me my knowledge. Spaceghostpurrps been doing it with the old 3-6 mafia sound. A little too close for my liking lol, wish he'd stop recording shit in such low quality to give it that vibe and would just record full quality tracks.
ASAP Rocky is clearly doing it with the TX sound. I do think that's something to consider, although he's biting TX rap, he's doing it from like a 90's TX angle.
Spaceghostpurrp - Fuck Taylor Gang (for anyone interested) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVDaQEClii8
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2624438, RE: I was going to make a post Posted by mrshow, Sat Nov-05-11 08:31 PM
I think we've seen Spitta become the closest thing we could have to a "consensus" rapper today much like Jay was in the early 00s. I do think the "blog rap" tag will forever damn him in alot of people's eyes, much like the people who wrote Jay off as just another "Hot 97 bling rapper" until "Blueprint". That being said, I think Spitta would have to make his Warner "debut" the best album of his career if he's going silence the remaining naysayers.
>about giving up on hating on Currensy and realizing he's >potentially the GOAT of Swag Rapping lol (behind Jay-Z back >when Jay popularized the style). He does rap about shallow >shit, but he's so fucking good at it/detailed/clever that he >makes it deep. I don't know, it's like a talented director >tackling some issue in a film that you don't give a fuck >about...you might wish he'd cover something more >relevant...but you can't deny he did a good job.
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2624505, ehhh. Posted by Guinness, Sun Nov-06-11 12:35 PM
>I think we've seen Spitta become the closest thing we could >have to a "consensus" rapper today much like Jay was in the >early 00s.
i would say that's ricky rozay. though well-regarded, currensy has no hits or personality to give him that kind of stature.
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2624695, RE: I was going to make a post Posted by blakegriffin32, Mon Nov-07-11 02:51 AM
he's doing memphis just as much as purrp. there is influence from all over the south, and huge max b influence as well.
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2625079, i feel the same about 2chainz Posted by bucknchange, Mon Nov-07-11 09:54 PM
people seem to like the image, beats, his 'approach' 'he's gonna get better' 'the production is what's doing it' dude isn't nice period. how many times he gonna say 'i be that pretty muthaphucka'
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2626665, the more i listen the better it gets Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Thu Nov-10-11 09:18 PM
this shit is fresh.
the beats is hot the swag is up.
Rocky dominates every track. his flows is tight. X_X @ the flows.
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2624419, The Needle Drop gives it a 8/10. http://youtu.be/NHnS2gDJEPY Posted by theillestboYee, Sat Nov-05-11 06:45 PM
http://youtu.be/NHnS2gDJEPY
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2624487, the SChoolboy Q verse is the only thing worht keeping Posted by Amritsar, Sun Nov-06-11 09:10 AM
wtf is going on?!
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2624551, the song is awful Posted by astralblak, Sun Nov-06-11 06:03 PM
it's one of the only two i skip. please expound on what's so great about that verse
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2624606, schoolboy q's verse isnt all that dope on paper... Posted by Small Pro, Sun Nov-06-11 10:31 PM
...but the way he switches his flow midverse to fit the time signature of the beat is not something one expected to find on an album like *this*
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2624608, ^^^exactly Posted by mrshow, Sun Nov-06-11 10:36 PM
His delivery makes the whole thing. I gotta admit that I was surprised Rocky was able to more or less keep up. Q can be way more lyrical than that but he sounds like he's really having fun shit-talking here.
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2624730, why? rocky can flow his ass off. Posted by BrooklynWHAT, Mon Nov-07-11 09:05 AM
>I gotta admit that I was >surprised Rocky was able to more or less keep up.
so what he aint really saying shit, it sounds dope regardless.
Palace convinced me of that when the song flipped a bit and he did the "Give me the title, then give me the cash" bit. the punch on that part is incredible.
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2624550, anybody got a fresh link? Posted by southphillyman, Sun Nov-06-11 06:03 PM
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2624552, check reply 7 Posted by astralblak, Sun Nov-06-11 06:05 PM
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2624574, thanks Posted by southphillyman, Sun Nov-06-11 08:50 PM
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2624714, Kissin Pink & Houston Old Head are great Posted by atruhead, Mon Nov-07-11 06:24 AM
I concede 2 songs from this prick hold any weight
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2625071, wow 2 days in and this is sounding like the best stuff out of nyc since Posted by southphillyman, Mon Nov-07-11 09:38 PM
max b i've heard enough. i think dude can blow up this is like OF shit but more accessible
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2626639, a week and some later: this shit is still DOPE. Posted by PROMO, Thu Nov-10-11 08:03 PM
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2626646, love it man. Posted by Nodima, Thu Nov-10-11 08:27 PM
LiveLoveA$AP (Produced by Clams Casino unless noted)
1|Palace|2:43 3 - 3.75 2|Peso|2:48 (Produced by ASAP Ty Beats) 4 - 4.5 3|Bass|3:17 4 - 4.75 4|Wassup|2:38 5 5|Brand New Guy (feat. )|4:48 (Produced by Lyle) 3.5 - 4 6|Purple Swag: Chapter 2 (feat. & )|2:47 (Produced by ASAP Ty Beats) 5 7|Get Lit (feat. )|2:59 (Produced by Soufein3000) 4 - 4.5 8|Trilla (feat. & )|4:04 (Produced by Beautiful Lou) 4.75 - 5 9|Keep It G (feat. & )|3:50 (Produced by Spaceghostpurrp) 4 - 4.25 10|Kissin' Pink (feat. )|3:31 (Produced by Beautiful Lou) 3.5 - 4 11|Houston Old Head|4:19 (Produced by DJ Burn One) 4.75 - 5 12|Acid Drip|2:44 (Produced by Soufein3000) 3 Apparently, Hodgy Beats calls him ASAP Copy for this track. I can see it, but as a counter, this is definitely my least liked song on the LP. 13|Leaf (feat. )|4:52 5 14|Roll One Up|2:40 (Produced by DJ Burn One) 4 - 4.5 15|Demons|3:01 3 - 3.5 16|Out of This World|2:48 (Produced by the Olympicks) 4.75 - 5
Overall: 67 - 69 4.25/5 84 - 86%: Exceptional; repeated listens demanded; BUY IT
With the release of LiveLoveA$AP, the positive influence of the internet on the next generation of hip-hop has finally taken form in a way much more easily manageable and accessible than Lil' B. So allow me a bit of token regional exploration before we get to the actual meat of what makes this mixtape so enjoyable. ASAP Rocky is, already famously, a descendant of Harlem and all that entails (Dipset!). His main producer to this point, Clams Casino, hails from the college life of northern New Jersey. Clams' major claims to fame have come via production work for the aforementioned Lil' B and fellow Californians Main Attrakionz. And yet this album opens with a track, "Palace", whose most captivating moment finds Rocky rapping like a forgotten member of Three 6 Mafia's horrorcore era (I vote Koopsta Knicca), and quickly makes inroads on a soundscape that sounds way more Swishahouse circa-1995 than New York, or Jersey, or California circa-anytime. Well, besides the ethereal "Wassup" that brings to mind previous Clams Casino masterstrokes like Lil' B's "I'm God".
The point is, if you care at all about drawing lines in the sand with your hip-hop, LiveLoveA$AP offers a lot of contradiction to your hypothesis. Because in a world where certified technician-style MCs like Jadakiss and Fabolous have spent the past four-ish years trying to bring New York to the sounds of Atlanta, ASAP, Clams and the rest of the people involved with this realized bringing anything anywhere doesn't matter. What's important is that your music feels natural and your persona free of shoehorning. What's absolutely crucial is that you aren't chasing anything, particularly as a rap artist. Granted, it's easier to fake your way to authenticity in hip-hop these days - just ask Rick Ross. But then ask yourselves whether you'd find Ross so easy to deny if the truth didn't deny him for you, or if he's actually quite believable as a decadent Freeway-Ross-that-wasn't-caught behind the veil of Oz. If you come to the conclusion that fantasy is oftentimes more desirable in music than reality, you're ready to focus on what makes ASAP Rocky such a great addition to the scene: his music is awesome.
"Purple Swag" was inescapable in its previous form as a two minute Youtube video, but with added features from fellow Three 6 fanatics SpaceghostPurrp (from Florida of all places, if you're still trying to connect dots) and ASAP Nast it becomes even more of an anthem for lazy summer Sundays than it already was. Elsewhere, "Houston Old Head" is a slow rolling ode to the more earthy knowledge bases of past-generation southern black males, "Leaf" flirts with the upper echelon of 2011's odes to dope smokin' while "Get Lit" and "Roll One Up" act as perfect smoking buddies and, well, "Bass" lives up to its given name. For some, a lack of so-called substance could work against LiveLoveA$AP. Rocky's definitely a young kid talking about the things that please him and little else, which could effectively turn away listeners that hope their hip-hop can take a little timeout from enjoying life every so often to complain about some stuff. But it's this writer's opinion 'realness' doesn't deserve to be confined to ghetto street corners and hyperreal town hall meetings. Sometimes, it can be as simple as sitting in a freshly waxed car, windows dropped, speakers on blast, the world by all accounts your oyster. That's how Rocky and his fellow ASAPs (Always Strive and Prosperers) sees it on "Trilla", and how LiveLoveA$AP allows me to see the world also.
Sometimes, that's all anyone should want to ask for. LiveLoveA$AP is the sort of album that clocks in at nearly an hour but feels like it's over in half that. It's always hard to believe the airy, saxophone-drenched "Keep It G" is our halfway point, or that the slightly darker, inward-looking tones of "Demons" and "Out of This World" are really where we have to part ways. Luckily, that's what repeat settings were designed for, something I've been abusing a bit lately (especially the repeat one function on "Leaf", which is most likely the first instance of Wiz Khalifa's laugh coming off subtly). There are more impressive rapping performances in 2011, from Kendrick Lamar to Jay-Z to Big K.R.I.T. And there are probably a few more notable production jobs as well. Quite frankly, it's hard to argue that LiveLoveA$AP does any one thing better than its closest peers. But by its powers combined, Rocky's debut free album/mixtape/whatever turns in the equivalent of a top-of-his-game Scottie Pippen performance. It looks effortless, and possibly insignificant in comparison to the much more obvious greatness of his closest peer...until you check the stat sheet and realize it adds up to something pretty amazing in its own right.
~~~~~~~~~ "This is the streets, and I am the trap." © Jay Bilas
http://www.last.fm/user/NodimaChee
http://www.popmatters.com/pm/archive/contributor/517
http://rateyourmusic.com/list/Nodima/run_that_shit__nodimas_hip_hop_handbook
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2626691, Great review Posted by mrshow, Thu Nov-10-11 10:25 PM
I've definitely kept coming back to it over the course of the week. Too many criticisms of this album have been along the lines of "...but what's the next album going to sound like"?
I do think ASAP is still figuring out his identity but his growth since "Deep Purple" is undeniable.
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2721898, definitely one of the more interesting and significant projects of Posted by howisya, Thu Jul-19-12 12:21 PM
recent memory
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2756900, late as a muthafucka but I just heard Wassup for the first time Posted by Nick Has a Problem...Seriously, Sun Nov-18-12 06:52 PM
and I love it. Not feeling the rest but I'm late as fuck so who cares.
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