by an artist/group who came to prominence before BIG?

I think Nas is the only contender. I know I am going to eat those words.

Don't know why niggas act like Face doesn't exist here.

freddie foxxx - industry shakedown
erick sermon - chilltown, ny
erick sermon - music
large professor - 1st class
gangstarr - the ownerz
ll cool j - the g.o.a.t.
black moon - total eclipse
a.g. - get dirty radio
kool g rap - the giancanna story
dj quik - under he influence

>freddie foxxx - industry shakedown

good pick


>erick sermon - chilltown, ny

nope


>erick sermon - music

nope


>large professor - 1st class

not a bad choice


>gangstarr - the ownerz

this shit was great-let Dilla use something else besides hi-hats to drive the beats like Primo did and watch these assholes go nute


>ll cool j - the g.o.a.t.

fuck no


>black moon - total eclipse

no


>a.g. - get dirty radio

dope, but nope


>kool g rap - the giancanna story

good pick


>dj quik - under he influence

hell no
>
>

>>erick sermon - chilltown, ny
>
>nope

imo, better than grind date.

>>black moon - total eclipse
>
>no

this was as good as grind date imo.

>>black moon - total eclipse
>
>no

Out of all the BCC releases the only albums I have ahead of it are "Enta da Stage" and "Da Shinin'".


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I don't like the beat anymore because its just a loop. ALC didn't FLIP IT ENOUGH!

Flip it enough? Flip these. Flip off. Go flip some f*cking burgers.(c)Kno

Allied State of the National Electric Beat Treaty Organization (NEBTO)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fh1vz243y84

this one song is more satisfying to me than anything on grind date.
but i realize that's subjective.

there was at least 6 dope joints on total eclipse.
it was better than their 2nd one.

Because Dah Shinin' isn't even the best release by THAT GROUP.

I place that album in the A- list right behind Illmatic, Cuban Linx, Infamous and albums like those.

Easily Top 20 hip-hop album from the mid-90s, if not 10.

>I place that album in the A- list right behind Illmatic,
>Cuban Linx, Infamous and albums like those.
>
>Easily Top 20 hip-hop album from the mid-90s, if not 10.


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I don't like the beat anymore because its just a loop. ALC didn't FLIP IT ENOUGH!

Flip it enough? Flip these. Flip off. Go flip some f*cking burgers.(c)Kno

Allied State of the National Electric Beat Treaty Organization (NEBTO)

it tanked.

I thought is was a great record. That Nottz joint was crazy.

I also liked SNW's Reloaded and I really like Monumental as well.

*shrugs*

maybe that's just because those albums are true to their sound and a lot of people are past that?

I don't know but I liked all of those albums.

>it tanked.

I woulda been in there if I saw it.

>I thought is was a great record. That Nottz joint was crazy.
>
>I also liked SNW's Reloaded and I really like Monumental as
>well.
>
>*shrugs*
>
>maybe that's just because those albums are true to their sound
>and a lot of people are past that?
>
>I don't know but I liked all of those albums.

Yeah, I guess it might be that.

"Total Eclipse" and "War Zone" both had that thick boom-bap I still love.

"Reloaded" was really good, too.

"Monumental" I only listened to once and it didn't stick at the time, but I'll revisit at some point. It came out around the time I had a lot of other stuff in rotation.

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I don't like the beat anymore because its just a loop. ALC didn't FLIP IT ENOUGH!

Flip it enough? Flip these. Flip off. Go flip some f*cking burgers.(c)Kno

Allied State of the National Electric Beat Treaty Organization (NEBTO)

Monumental is a dope record. I feel Pete gave them tracks that they could excel on.

There are some great moments on that album and really no bad ones.

There are a few songs that if released by (insert popular rapper here) produced by (insert popular producer here) it would be a hit.

Reloaded was really dope imo. The production on that album is great hip-hop.

no way.

common sense - be
pete rock - petestrumentals
and of course, we could count jaÿ-z of hawaiian sofie fam...

New king.

i realize why i don't dig your ideas on music, because ur taste is so damn suspect/awful

and when i say better they might not be better albums in the tradional way people try to judge albums. "cohesiveness" or whatever...
i got more spins out of all of those either for 1 or 2 songs that hooked or whatever the reason might be than i did out of grind date.

grind date is one of those albums where the instrumental version is more enjoyable than the retail imo.

one of those, though imo they all could be the best album.

....some might say LOONG HOT SUMMER as well

...not as good as grind date, but its up there along with Gang Starr's "The Ownerz"

everyone

...the individual songs had more life when they came out prior to the album ...but yeah, it was on some "already heard this..next" shit when the album dropped

Nas - The Lost Tapes
Masta Ace - Disposable Arts
Masta Ace - A Long Hot Summer
Raekwon - Only Built 4 Cuban Linx Pt. II
Scarface - The Fix
Big Boi - Sir Lucious Left Foot
Del tha FUnkee Homosapien - Both Sides of the Brain
Deltron 3030 - Deltron 3030
Common - Be
Nas - God's Son
Ghostface Killah - Fishscale
Ghostface Killah - Pretty Toney Album


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"This is the streets, and I am the trap." © Jay Bilas

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>Raekwon - Only Built 4 Cuban Linx Pt. II
>Big Boi - Sir Lucious Left Foot
>Nas - God's Son
>Ghostface Killah - Fishscale

i just think Grind Date is that good

~Austin

You've got to get out of your own head sometime, Austin.

The view really is much better when you consider opinions other than your own.

And it was not meant as knock on the album, as I thought it was a great record.

Just saying, for the way this place hyped it up when it first came out, you'd think it would've been mentioned a little sooner in a post like this.

~Austin

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Part of the Tribe binge I go through every couple of months.

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I don't like the beat anymore because its just a loop. ALC didn't FLIP IT ENOUGH!

Flip it enough? Flip these. Flip off. Go flip some f*cking burgers.(c)Kno

Allied State of the National Electric Beat Treaty Organization (NEBTO)

Was just bumping it on Saturday

one of my favorites from the 00s

Should we be surprised we are not listing a roots album here?

I vote Below The Heavens.

has the most reply value for me this side of 2000

...your Auntie Clarisse!

lurkin since 1999. werd.

Roots don't qualify I don't think, otherwise I'd have said Game Theory, How I Got Over, Phrenology

Blu definitely doesn't lol


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http://rateyourmusic.com/list/Nodima/run_that_shit__nodimas_hip_hop_handbook

>Roots don't qualify I don't think, otherwise I'd have said
>Game Theory, How I Got Over, Phrenology



technically the roots recorded organix in 93, I think. A year before Ready to Die. But I guess they really didn't come to "prominence" before then.


>
>Blu definitely doesn't lol
>

And I'm and idiot for not reading the OP correctly. I retract Blu!

>
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>"This is the streets, and I am the trap." © Jay Bilas
>
>http://www.last.fm/user/NodimaChee
>
>http://www.popmatters.com/pm/archive/contributor/517
>
>http://rateyourmusic.com/list/Nodima/run_that_shit__nodimas_hip_hop_handbook


...your Auntie Clarisse!

lurkin since 1999. werd.

dropped 11/99.

bun's "trill OG" was pretty good.

because BIG changed the direction of a lot of shit.

It came out in 2000. It counts.

SC is the best rap album of last decade hands down.
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Ghost "came to prominence." I say that happened either with Cuban Linx or Ironman.

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but since we're comparing it to another mediocre album, i figured i might as well mention it. this post is more a mental exercise than anything else. "the fix" ended the conceit within five minutes anyway.

>but since we're comparing it to another mediocre album, i
>figured i might as well mention it.

Supreme Clientele
Stankonia
The HNIC
The W
Like Water For Chocolate
Last Of A Dying Breed
Dirty Money
Stillmatic
Black Trash: The Autobiography Of Kirk Jones
Paid Da Cost To Be Da Boss
The Fix
Disposable Arts
Long Hot Summer
Madvillian
Speakerboxx/Love Below
Deltron 3030
Phrenology
Fishscale
Main Source
The Renaissance
Underground Kingz
Wu-Tang Chamber Music
Only Built 4 Cuban Linx 2
Sir Luscious Left Foot
Distant Relatives
Shaolin vs Wu-Tang
Book of David

>Supreme Clientele
yup
>Stankonia
ehh, maybe, more fun?
>The HNIC
no, but great
>The W
no but great as well, glad i'm not the only one who likes this LP
>Like Water For Chocolate
yes
>Last Of A Dying Breed
?
>Dirty Money
?
>Stillmatic
no
>Black Trash: The Autobiography Of Kirk Jones
still need to hear this. my cousin and one one of my boyz vouche for this record a lot
>Paid Da Cost To Be Da Boss
no
>The Fix
>Disposable Arts
>Long Hot Summer
need to listen to all 3 of those
>Madvillian
by his criteria i dont think it counts, even though DOOM was in KMD
>Speakerboxx/Love Below
no
>Deltron 3030
great, but no
>Phrenology
fuck no
>Fishscale
over-rated, good, but no
>Main Source
?
>The Renaissance
yes
>Underground Kingz
havent listen to
>Wu-Tang Chamber Music
no
>Only Built 4 Cuban Linx 2
maybe
>Sir Luscious Left Foot
>Distant Relatives
haven't heard
>Shaolin vs Wu-Tang
no
>Book of David
no

I love the whole cd (one of the few hip-hop cd's I play all the way through). I remember first hearing it and fell out of my chair when I heard the Yes sample ("Ritual" from Tales From Topographic Oceans and the Rick Wakeman sample from The Six Wives Of Henry The 8th.

Someone "borrowed" my cd years ago and I never got it back. I can't remember the name of the guy who spoke at the end of one of the title track "My father had two jobs but he loved his kids" or something like that.

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