I'm fond of the bol K.Dot and all his success is pretty amazing to witness. His whole crew Black Hippy -- consisting of Schoolboy Q, Jay Rock and Ab-Soul -- is tough and it's clear Kendrick Lamar is being shot out as the breakout star of Top Dawg Entertainment...and he deserves his shot.

But I been checking out Ab-Soul since last year and was amazed nobody gave Soul Brother #2 the same listen and shot folks give Kendrick and even Jay Rock (who was signed to a major). I'm gonna try to hip you good people to Ab-Soul if you don't mind.

This track is from Ab's free LP Long Term 2 featuring Kendrick Lamar "Turn Me Up" - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WfZ7AQOA8c

This track is from Ab's debut Long Term 1. Dope video actually mirroring the concept of the song too. "Day In A Life" - http://youtu.be/-uowKCItkjI

This is the opening track on Long Term 2, "Still A Regular Nigga" - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdXIKGXP3wM

Ab-Soul's first for-sale project Longterm Mentality was dope and here's a song featuring one of his Black Hippy cohorts Schoolboy Q "Hell Yeah" -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHApiAnSHx8

Another collabo with Kendrick Lamar, "Moscato" -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZF0NEkdd4ag

Ab-Soul is on a come up. Let me know what ya'll think.

Bonus: Gonna add some Black Hippy joints too.

Black Hippy Freestyle: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ycAvy0ESE0
"Zip That Chop That" -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRY1k6aSE0g
My current fave Black Hippy song "Constipation" -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v478owEdYxo

After the outro track on Section 80 i will def. check this brotha out.

The whole Black Hippy crew is dope, but if I had to rank all their releases, Kendricks are easily the weakest.

ScHoolboy's Habits & Contradictions is coming up in November

frankly, I still don't get all the hype for KL. dude is cool but he's no better than 75% of rappity rap cats out right now. *shrugs*

I hear what folks enjoy though.

I kinda agree, but not really.

Lyrics - Ab > K.

Voice - JR > K.

Smoothness - Q > K.

But what Kendrick has that the others don't is the total star package.. He stands out in a unique way, is versatile and intelligent, aims to be the voice of the people, and projects a youthful energy.

Yes, he sounds like Elmer Fudd on helium, looks like he's in the 8th grade, and dresses like he's kindergarten.. but he makes it work for him.

Also, his "albums" stand alone as fully realized pieces of work.. Not just collections of songs with album titles that don't really represent the music within.

Also, it does not hurt that he's from Compton. LOL



White Bronco.

I'm such a lyrics fiend and I think Ab-Soul has had the sharpest bars out of the whole crew since day one. Jay Rock's voice is undeniable. Schoolboy Q is a pleasant work in progress who takes risks and I like that in a rapper.

Kendrick Lamar is a complete songwriter and he's managed to impress strictly on presence alone. He has that "it" factor.



>I kinda agree, but not really.
>
>Lyrics - Ab > K.
>
>Voice - JR > K.
>
>Smoothness - Q > K.
>
>But what Kendrick has that the others don't is the total star
>package.. He stands out in a unique way, is versatile and
>intelligent, aims to be the voice of the people, and projects
>a youthful energy.
>
>Yes, he sounds like Elmer Fudd on helium, looks like he's in
>the 8th grade, and dresses like he's kindergarten.. but he
>makes it work for him.
>
>Also, his "albums" stand alone as fully realized pieces of
>work.. Not just collections of songs with album titles that
>don't really represent the music within.
>
>Also, it does not hurt that he's from Compton. LOL
>
>
>
>White Bronco.

* Best verse on Section.80 on an outro named after him.

* Best verse on Murs' album, spittin between Murs and O.C.

* Best verses on Black Hippy songs..

those are heavy shoes to fill

I rock with all of them, except Jay Rock. The man is signed to a major and still angry at the world for no apparent reason

Not clowning, but he really does look like an Australian Aborigine.

I just figured it's short for Absolute, though.


White Bronco.

does indeed stand for absolute. talks about his name chamnges on long term 1.


>Not clowning, but he really does look like an Australian
>Aborigine.
>
>I just figured it's short for Absolute, though.
>
>
>White Bronco.

didn't realize they had blown up like this.

Kendrick is no slouch though

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYRncPcUHM8

it has me checking for more of his stuff


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"It is better to be silent and thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt"

http://soundcloud.com/mixedbyali/schoolboy-q-oxy-music-prod-by

Kinda sounds like Danny Brown. I like it. The talent in this crew is impressive. They all can spit but also have a firm grip on songwriting. Their in-house producers are pretty great too.

That's a real talent.

...i head a joint from Ab awhile ago "tits n ass" and enjoyed i alot, but never checked for more...

...dug Kendrick from the BET Cypher and his verse on 9th's album....

..whole crew is EXTRA nice...

He's got a nice flow with it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oh8LMSJSk0s

this has been staying on repeat

They're both dope.

Why even compare? There's room in the collection for both.

Kendrick Lamar is dope.

One of the few young cats I can even listen to with my headphones on.

I got Q ahead of Soul right now, although I mess with all of them. Now it's like this

K>Q>A=J

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>K>Q>A=J
>

though i think Kendrick and Ab are the better pure rappers, i think Q's H&C is the best Black Hippy album so far.

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"It is better to be silent and thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt"

him and Q are battling it out for #2 though.

i feel kinda sorry for Jay Rock.

I used to think Soul was the best for a while. Post Section.80 then gave Kendrick that spot.
And while I enjoyed Setbacks, Q wasn't really on my radar like that until after H&C. Now he's battling for that 2nd spot for me

I feel sorry for Jay Rock too though. It aint even like Follow Me Home wasn't good. The others in the group are just that much better

Do a google run tho in the meantime...may be something out there.

Both are great mixtapes.

i found a couple of sites to dload but i'm not sure if they're safe. one of em's tellin me i gotta enable 'cookies'. i'm not computer savvy at all. don't even know wtf cookies is. so i really don't know what to watch out for.

does this look aight? http://www.filestube.com/f1UNGJOtFvmA9nPIGDSzNh/Ab-Soul-LongTerm-Mentality-2011.html

There's a mediafire link in the comments on that page that works as well

I like K.Dot. I've OD'd on his joints and mixtapes. I gave Q's album a spin and it didnt really grab me. He's obviously talented but the album didnt really do it for me. I'm downloading Ab-Soul now so i'll see how that goes.

I like how he addresses being the slept on one on this song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmvy_2-OFfA

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http://tinyurl.com/liberators2 - anarchy in two dimensions

Black Lip Bastard, Pineal Gland, Showin' Love and Terrorist Threats ft. Danny Brown?

ALL OF THEM go hard.

He's better. Be mad.

He's no slouch, but Kendrick is MUCH more well rounded, I think.

if you wanna use the last four Kendrick joints as a counter.

I don't see anyone mad about it tho unless maybe you are.

just a fun poast. lighten up, bro.

Did O_E hack your account? Did you leave your cell phone at the gas station in New Jersey?

>just a fun poast. lighten up, bro.

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are no where near as good as pineal gland, black lip bastard and empathy. yes, his pain tops those, but it's really BJ's song. Cartoon & Cereal was shoulders above damn near every rap song i've heard this year, until Big Kuntry linked up "Book of Soul" from Control System. That song is so dam vivid, emotional and well written, it's neck and neck with "cartoon and cereal" IMO

they're both just excellent rappers. i take Kendrick right now though

...FOR ME, let me stress that. TO ME, Ab-Solo is way doper and more relatable than Kendrick but by no means is Kendrick wack or FAR behind him. I just happen to prefer Ab-Soul as being well-rounded.

hip hop is in a great place right now if this kind of shit comes out.

need i say more

I think he's definitely the better rapper of the two.

Lyrically, vocally, and flow-wise.. he just is. I think his presence at TDE may be the thing that pushes the others to step their lyrics and flows up.

However, Kendrick remains the better all-around artist. His music is more captivating, and his albums and songs just feel more complete to me. His releases are what's pushing the crew to step the cohesiveness of their albums and sound as well as the overall theme of their work.

I think the real test will be on the Black Hippy album. Who of the 4 will shine the brightest? Who's going to steal the show?

>I think he's definitely the better rapper of the two.
>
>Lyrically, vocally, and flow-wise.. he just is. I think his
>presence at TDE may be the thing that pushes the others to
>step their lyrics and flows up.
>
>However, Kendrick remains the better all-around artist. His
>music is more captivating, and his albums and songs just feel
>more complete to me. His releases are what's pushing the crew
>to step the cohesiveness of their albums and sound as well as
>the overall theme of their work.
>
>I think the real test will be on the Black Hippy album. Who
>of the 4 will shine the brightest? Who's going to steal the
>show?

So he wins on this for example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JpJz-ghsqI

That's what you're saying?

>However, Kendrick remains the better all-around artist. His
>music is more captivating, and his albums and songs just feel
>more complete to me. His releases are what's pushing the crew
>to step the cohesiveness of their albums and sound as well as
>the overall theme of their work.
>

I think Kendrick covered a LOT of ground in Section.80 but his deficiency vocally detracted a lot. Not to say Ab-Soul doesn't have the same issues (He does, especially on earlier work), but Ab makes it work for him more IN MY VIEW of it. I'll agree that Kendrick has the best songwriting ability of the four Black Hippy members.

>I think the real test will be on the Black Hippy album. Who
>of the 4 will shine the brightest? Who's going to steal the
>show?

I think they'll all have standout moments. But I thik Ab's gonna be the one with the hardest bars.

Really though they aren't even close. And I mean rap ability. They are even further apart when it comes to musical output.


really though you wildin'. I don't like a single album he's put out and this new one isn't slappin me in the face off the first listen but I'm reserving judgement. I feel his features but I haven't really felt a full project from him.

Can you really listen to illuminate on the new ab soul LP and say ab soul raps better than kendrick? Really? I listened to the track and was like "ab soul went IN" then kendrick's verse happened.

I'm not saying ab soul isn't really dope. I think he's on of the better rapper's out and I think he raps better than schoolboy q even though I like q's music more.

shit i like setbacks more than section80

but I was never the biggest fan of section 80...I always thought

kendrick lamar freEP >>> OverlyDedicated >>> Section 80

section 80 never grew on me like i expected

though their are more songs on Section.80 that i play. H&C is my favorite of the click. i'm listening to Control System right now

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i don't really like these beats on this control system
they just don't move me

There's a staggering amount of talent in Black Hippy.

Ab's still my third favorite in the crew but that's more a testament to how much I like Q & Kendrick's music than anything wrong with Ab's.

i was checking for them back in 2006/2007 when nobody gave a shit and it's pretty great seeing how much they blew up

oh and ab soul was my least favorite of the group but this control system is heat or at least the first half of it...now it's jay rocks turn to show and prove

His music isn't as immediately accessible as Kendrick but repeated listens are more greatly rewarding.

its just not true.

People like what they like...and if you prefer Soul that's fine...but there is no way you can say Soul is hands down better.

Its just not true.

Control System sounds like Ab couldn't decide weather to be Q or Kendrick...he should have just been himself.

Terrorist Threats literally sounds like he tried to remake C & C.

I like songs/verses by Ab here and there...but he has yet to release a full project I love.


Maybe this will grow on me but for now it seems like he is benefitting from the Black Hippy love... because this sounds contrived to be honest.

And his flow is actually getting worse to me. Why is he yelling so much?

I'll spend more time with it...

Schoolboy Q > Ab soul

i agree
q > ab > kdot

i still bump that habits & contradictions more than gkmc & control system

Q is more entertaining to me but Ab got the knowledge and KL is technically more skilled but somehow not as captivating overall.

Jay rock is 4th

I still need to hear Jay Rock's shit

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I don't like the beat anymore because its just a loop. ALC didn't FLIP IT ENOUGH!

Flip it enough? Flip these. Flip off. Go flip some f*cking burgers.(c)Kno

Allied State of the National Electric Beat Treaty Organization (NEBTO)

throw in Kendrick's album for good measure, neither has mine.

My younger brothers got me on to Black Hippy when they were in their mixtape phase in 2010. If any crew in hip-hop deserved some shine, it's these brothas right here. This is the "clique" I'd rather fuck with musically.

I think Ab-Soul's production is phenomenal. At the moment, Kendrick is a superior lyricist though; Ab-Soul is good too but might need a little more practice with tightening his flow. He definitely is getting better. So yeah, he could be that next dude, you never know.

hell na

He def had the best verse on section 80

Kendrick at the top, Q shaping up to be his only real competition because he's shaping up to make The Leap on this major-label debut, Jay Rock was first out but last in folk's thoughts once Black Hippy really got going but he's been killing features since Money Trees, Ab's still sorta just playing that 'esoteric one with the hair' part but hasn't put it altogether as a stand-alone artist yet.

If you caught a show on that Black Hippy/Stalley/BET tour it really hammered that point home.

Ab, like Stalley, was a dude up there rapping during his set.

Kendrick's was an actual show with pacing, crowd work, songs people knew (before GKMC dropped), in the case of the L.A. shows some big cameos from vets paying their respect, etc.

Ab-Soul is dope.....

But this thread still makes me laugh....Kendrick Lamar is the best young MC on the scene today....His last album made me a believer...

in one of those rare zones for a mc right now...

Just look at the UOENO remix...Kendrick killed that shit..AB soul didn't know what to do with the beat.

Jay Rock tho?

kendrick has the best overall verse.

But really hated his Chance the Rapper appearance and that UEONO remix verse was straight gahbage. But then again he'll snap on Mac Miller's joints and that Whale joint etc etc.. He still had one of the best albums of the year last year.

That crew is dope as hell.

from the limited stuff i heard from them up to this point, Ab better.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNaZ-uFHjRk

>from the limited stuff i heard from them up to this point, Ab
>better.


I like Ab....

But no.....

?? How come.. I think he's good

I think they are all in a good position and Ab will probably see a release date sometime soon. It's all one at a time over there so he's after Q

He's got 2 projects done already

I just mean in output.

I am only talking about output.

The way it seems that TDE works is they focus on 1 artist at a time. They probably understand that they will only get so much love in the Interscope building so they focus that.

Kendrick was up first.. Now Q and next Absoul.

I don't even know if his budget is even open yet

But now with the major situation, it's probably a bottle neck effect of sorts.

yea.. he def had a run. But once they saw Kendrick go. they are probably trying to concentrate their efforts.

I betting on the GKMC follow-up.

>I betting on the GKMC follow-up.

GKMC follow up no doubt. You see how long it took Q to get his release date. Soul probably won't be out until spring/summer 2015

http://www.2dopeboyz.com/2013/12/23/tde-albums-2014/

@dangerookipawaa

WE RAN 2013 WITH OUT DROPPING 1 ALBUM. I WONDER WUTS GONE HAPPEN IN 2014 WHEN I DROP 6.. THEY NOT READY 4 THIS #TDE #HiiiPoWeR TAKE OVER

you mean Kendrick's FOURTH full length?

and Ab's third full length (technically 5th)

all this "mixtapes" (all with original production, concepts, and in depth lyrics) not counting shit is silly.

but I agree. I think we'll see Q's some time in the first quarter, than Kendricks, than Ab and then Jay Rocks

MASH COMP STILL WRONG TOO

You know exactly what I mean.
Since going major.

it'd still be his 3rd...

he was on interscope before section 80.. they just didn't want anyone to know

Suga Free is on it. Color me excited.

even more amped/ready

Such a dope ass song. That's all I have to say.