killa season intro prod. by pro-v 2006

http://youtu.be/kFYv4mF2NSI?t=10s

straight cash prod. by j. cardim 2009 or 10

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdK-jwjXXuY

Atmosphere - Watch Out (2005)

and

Fat Joe - Damn (2006)

I didn't see it as a jack though. I just figured it was a coincidence. I was young and didn't know much about sampling, plus this is still like 5 years before mainstream artists and underground artists started collaborating frequently. So back then I honestly would've assumed that someone like Fat Joe would have no fucking clue who Atmosphere was.

Apparently both beats were created using samples from this song.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkkpschVGSs

i still want answers to how this was allowed

...who is more than willing to cash in on that formula in the hopes of gaining attention. Billy Joel's "Just The Way You Are" sounds too close to 10cc's "I'm Not In Love", Elton John's "Rocket Man" is very close to Pink Floyd's "The Great Gig In The Sky".

Artists try to recreate what is hip, and a lot of times they fail. Sometimes they make it through, but barely. Let's not forget that some felt R. Kelly's early work sounded like rehashed Guy. Say what you want about R. Kelly, but he eventually moved away from that and created a style that may not have been unique to him, but he became his own artists so that when you hear him, you think of him and only him.


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>...who is more than willing to cash in on that formula in the
>hopes of gaining attention. Billy Joel's "Just The Way You
>Are" sounds too close to 10cc's "I'm Not In Love", Elton

I mean I guess I can hear the Gmaj, Gmin thing, but they are in different keys and structured a little different...I guess there are a few similarities but I never caught that...now that I think about it the phrasing is suspect...
but 10cc's tune just plays on major/minor relationships of chords, which is something that a lot of songwriters do...
I think that one could just be coincidence...but its not like I would be surprised if it were a blatant bite...there are only so many notes on a piano though...

I would have never put those two songs together before. But it's there. I think the other things going on in the Morrison song I kind of tuned it out. The songs are mixed totally differently, and "Games" has the music more up front than "Mack"

planet phatt module drums timbaland would later on rape

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“The other dude after me didn’t help my case. It was just like…crazy nigga factory going on.”
Dre makes no apologies for his own eccentricities. “I was young, and searching, trying to find myself,” he says. “Never did.”-- Andre B

This song by Missin Linx which came out in like 98 I think

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSpRJ9pRiaU

and this song by Dre which came out later.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZXc39hT8t4

>This song by Missin Linx which came out in like 98 I think
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSpRJ9pRiaU
>
>and this song by Dre which came out later.
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZXc39hT8t4

Wow....I've never heard this but it's unmistakably a rip-off or straight copy.

I think I even like this version better...maybe.

Good post

David McCallum's "The Edge"
http://youtu.be/P7adIorf3XY

next episode was his best track off of 2001

He's not the first and not the last.

theres much better (and legit) reasons to hate on dre

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“The other dude after me didn’t help my case. It was just like…crazy nigga factory going on.”
Dre makes no apologies for his own eccentricities. “I was young, and searching, trying to find myself,” he says. “Never did.”-- Andre B

Members from Slave produced the Oddssey record.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQvUBf5l7Vw&ob=av3e

is clearly ripped off by

are you gonna be my girl - jet
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuK6n2Lkza0&ob=av3n

but then

ray manzarek of the doors claims that lust for life ripped off

touch me - the doors
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PECk9A-07Pw

with "Break On Through (To the Other Side)
http://youtu.be/3dLAv0NklTg

which is built off of "What'd I Say?"
http://youtu.be/xPP8w0wMRgQ

yoshimi battles the pink robots

fight test
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EbrMAZbFpo

shamelessly jacks

father and son - cat stevens
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q29YR5-t3gg

>yoshimi battles the pink robots
>
>fight test
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EbrMAZbFpo
>
>shamelessly jacks
>
>father and son - cat stevens
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q29YR5-t3gg


shamelessly??




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taurus - spirit
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhKUfiohxEY

Not including the same sample examples, when you get a melody in your head, its easy to forget where it came from.

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the test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposed ideas in the mind at the same time, and still retain the ability to function.

first there was...

timex social club - rumors

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRte0S2a_dA

then...

chromeo - needy girl

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5JoePzqwg4

not really a bite, but the overall feel of the song is very similar. i guess it could just be kinda influenced by the og.....still like both songs tho nh

did that ever get explained? didnt they came out the same year too?

had just blaze recreate it. the black moon version is 100 times better imo

ok

Same way they all swear Missin Linx song is "A LOT" doper than "Next episode"

...MIA is a far better song, and Stay Real was better too ...Dre's shit isnt even debatable because its incredibly corny sounding (rhymes & beat) ....Stay Real beat just sounds way better, the hov song was decent but Jay sounds forced over it (typical HOV steez I know)

PSA is regardeed as one of Jay's top 20 songs, Stay Real is barely remembered within Black Moon's catalog

but okay

in that debate plus had already been bumping Total Eclipse at the time but c'mon, 'PSA' is murderous.

That song holds up as one of Hov's better bangers ten years later & I can't recall the last time I put that particular Black Moon album on & I'm a big Bootcamp fan.

....and the beat is a half assed version of the Black Moon joint ...i get it, when people finally hear Hov over decent beat they get a little silly ..but really, that song isn't that special besides the fact that its far better than most of Hov songs

of the decade, probably Top 3. SOON AS folks hear "Allow me to reintroduce myself.." folks go NUTTY and sing word for word.

I mean, you hate Hov so it's no way to expect props...so it's no reason to argue it. But yeah.

...i dont hate hov ...BP is a favorite album of mine ...but its like thats the ONLY album of his where he gave it his all ...not only is the beat selection top notch (for once) but the vocals are great

because of supposedly not being paid for some work he did on Buckshot's BDI thug album.

And Blackmoon's version is definitely NOT better

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I don't like the beat anymore because its just a loop. ALC didn't FLIP IT ENOUGH!

Flip it enough? Flip these. Flip off. Go flip some f*cking burgers.(c)Kno

Allied State of the National Electric Beat Treaty Organization (NEBTO)

if its true

but that doesn't make it better by default, and vice versa
if I had to pick one to listen to forever, it'd be the Moon jaint

Pete Rock - Hip 2 Hip
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmdme7eFYe0


9th Wonder and Talib Kweli and Terrance Martin - Never Stop Loving You

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4Eq___q4xk

http://youtu.be/g4RU_Prknh8

jacked Fatback's "I Found Lovin"
http://youtu.be/Xu-gYmOyRi4


I'm still trying to figure out the story behind that

Best of my Love the Emotions and Cheryl Lynn got to be real 1)

do it again steely dan and Michel Jackson billie jean 2)

Car Wash Rose Royce and the time's Cool 3)

stand Sly and the family stone and i'll be good to you the brothers johnson and jack and jill Ray Parker jr and Raydio 4)

shes a bad mama jamma Carl Carlton and Michael Jackson PYT Pretty young thing 5)

Keni Burke Keep rising to the top and the Mary Jane Girls All Night Long 5)

the supremes you can't hurry love and phil collins two hearts 6)

Rick James mary jane and the Isley Brothers floating on your love 7)

Bobby Womack if you want my love put something down on it and Rod Stewart's do ya think I'm sexy 8)

meshall nedeocello outside your door and Brian Mcknight anytime 9)

Black Street and Dr.Dre No Diggity and 2Pac Toss it Up 10)

>do it again steely dan and Michel Jackson billie jean 2)

I don't really hear it... and Darryl Hall says MJ told him that he jacked "I Can't Go For That (No Can Do)"

is "Time Out Of Mind" but that's just the drums

http://youtu.be/B_MIzitimSc

jacked "Frantic Moment" by Eddie Hazel

http://youtu.be/Ej41zcmRfPg

until I put that song on for myself.
that does sound eerily similar, just played with different instruments

I never noticed that... That beat is just generally a very yacht rock kind of rhythm but Mike darkened it up quite a bit.

This response was meant for Claw's observation of "Billie Jean"'s drums sounding like Steely Dan...

>This response was meant for Claw's observation of "Billie
>Jean"'s drums sounding like Steely Dan...

(Steely Dan that is) I was like... "damn, this kinda sounds like Billie Jean"

But the main part of the melody is almost fully lifted, though more clearly articulated in Prince's song.

http://youtu.be/GKaqj4ksVlQ

T. Rex - "Bang a Gong (Get It On)"

http://youtu.be/y0ZjmTvaEZQ

Cigarettes & Alcohol:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SaeLKhRnkhQ

Still like both songs though.

~Austin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsBtQCDbTWc

Yes, I'm a nerd.

This has never been in dispute.

~Austin

http://youtu.be/jN2AdOjI4FI

Hall & Oates - Maneater

http://youtu.be/zMk_OYEQW7U

the beginning.

figured this one out as a DJ when Part-Time Lover was the only other track that could mix with Maneater other than Modern Love by Bowie...

http://youtu.be/xR1ozlayzk8

BS&T - 'I Love You More Than You'll Ever Know'

http://youtu.be/nMp4bedPF1o

http://youtu.be/scWHIX5m6XE

The Isley Brothers - 'This Old Heart of Mine (Is Weak For You)'

http://youtu.be/CsdTjuj6fps

http://youtu.be/iQit3Euq_IU

Parliament - Getten to Know You
http://youtu.be/g9yTCma_2ZA

http://youtu.be/2JYuuk4L2Vc

Janet Jackson - Let's Wait a While
http://youtu.be/K_WkOxyxYvE

http://youtu.be/i5As5yoTMxE

Funkadelic - One Nation Under a Groove
http://youtu.be/pNoj-PZbcO8

BEP - Where is the Love

http://youtu.be/lvLTtT6xodE

az - once again:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPy7n7xShQw

onyx - slam harder:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ox3xUOEiQio&feature=fvst

he never even heard AZ's joint.

Sample clearance took 100% though lol.

http://youtu.be/0Z_D1hXI7wg

Cameo - She's Strange

http://youtu.be/aoiu3RhQ3ZI

De La Soul "Much More"

not even jacking the same beat but listen to how eerily similar those two songs sound

Jeff Porcaro even admitted to such (he said he got that shuffle from Ed Green, but whenever I hear it played like that I immediately think Jeff)

http://youtu.be/v4JUCNTAN-g

SAME DAYUM BEAT


People under the stairs - Give love a chance
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBc9JaAY500


vs


DJ Premier - Too Complete
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFb4pNhjPEA&feature=related


...your Auntie Clarisse!

lurkin since 1999. werd.

It's a song called 'Too Complex' by L the Head Toucha.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dL4p9XN0KPg

Produced by the mighty Vinyl Reanimators.

Premier just put it on his mixtape.

~Austin

Midnight Star - No Parking On The Dance Floor
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gomCkCbKHA4

vs.

The Bar-Kays - Freakshow On The Dance Floor
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9FCYlGDAc4&ob=av2n

>The Bar-Kays - Freakshow On The Dance Floor
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9FCYlGDAc4&ob=av2n

is this an Allen A. Jones production?

Bar-Kays have a bunch of sound-alike shit,... There was never any shame in their game where biting was concerned.

Which is why to me they are 3rd tier at best, despite the fact they sold a lot of records.

dirty dancer= Billie Jean

and a whole bunch more. but i gotta say they are 2nd tier because not only they sold but had hits and also them boys were nothing nice to have follow on a stage. Bar Kays in there prime live was the sho nuff truth even White boys gave them dap and took a cue from them ask David Lee Roth and Axel Rose about Larry Dotson on stage?

Bar Kays were the truth on stage and kept hits, etc.. 3rd tier to me is a act who might have a out of body hit or two or album and maybe a few decent tours and then faded, but the Bar Kays were in the running for quite a while.

>Which is why to me they are 3rd tier at best, despite the fact
>they sold a lot of records.

I think their records before Allen A. really went hard w/the biting other acts were worthy of a tier above 3rd... but when the late '70s and '80s hit... dude was not ashamed at all who he ripped off. Which is kind of funny to me, because Leroy Dotson was kind of like Rick James before most of (Black) America knew who the hell he was....


on the subject of Allen, man. that biting. I remember OldPro tipped me to some of the records he produced. Ebonee Webb, Kwick...

Ebonee Webb's first album was hilarious. When they weren't biting Prince, they were biting EWF. And sometimes, those two concepts were bridged together ("Keep On Steppin", where you had a dude singing like Prince's falsetto... but on the chorus a dude who sounded just like Maurice White). Like, what kind of Nutter Butter shit...

Kwick had a straight up BITE of 2 Michael Jackson songs, wholesale. There were some original cuts, but I couldn't believe how badly they went at MJ. Then they did Rick James (vocal styling) and all on another cut. Won't even talk about how both Ebonee Webb and Kwick were vying for the title of "who can bite The Time" more. I love that album FOREPLAY (and it's getting reissued soon), but man. Put the Purplesaurus Rex down, man.

It sounds hilarious.... that said, I don't doubt that it's actually fonky too!

rips off "Working Day and Night". Might be on Youtube...

the other one, I can't remember the title, but I think it was their second album, it was a Jacksons song that was ripped -- I want to say "Shake Your Body".

www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRr6W-zVCdw


www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4p8-JhWMRw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qifX4qsEARs

www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcP96KbFIIU

Nuthin but a G Thang (Dre):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhr5UBZh1rY

I want to do something freaky to you (Leon H.):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVqOa309We0&feature=fvsr

Challenger-

Lol

What about the Police ''Every breath you take'' vs. Puff Daddy's ''I'll be missing you''?

Or Zapp's ''More bounce to the ounce'' vs. EPMD's ''You gots to chill''?

Or Jean-Jaques Perrey's ''EvA'' vs. Gang Starr's ''Just to get a rep''?

I THINK there's a couple of other Hip-Hop songs that jacks older songs but i'm not sure...

>I THINK there's a couple of other Hip-Hop songs that jacks
>older songs but i'm not sure...

I wanna do something freaky to you and Smiling faces back in 71.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9We2XsVZfc

huey lewis - i want a new drug

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6uEMOeDZsA&ob=av2n

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rosemary's babydaddy
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TWICE???

Same chord progression....
Same bridge...
Same exact vamp at the end???

Sheesh!
LOL

Matter of fact:

Glenn Jones' 'We've Only Just Begun' and Surface's 'Closer Than Just Friends' sound like dead ringers for that song.

'Sexual Healing" and the Isley Brothers "Between the sheets"

Led Zeppelin are the rulers of straight up jackery. They stole from way too many people to count.. and its made even worse by the fact that they would use the same exact title or a slightly different one... and the same lyrics and melodies.. cant believe they were the first inductees of the "rock and roll hall of fame" and continue to get a pass for this shit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiiY4ciKFQA is a decent rundown of some good examples but there are more.
ps. bert jansch is the shit

see post #14 for a famous example.

they were almost like hip-hop producers.

(among other stuff)

Diehard Zep apologists continue to argue that the fundamental raison d'etre of Led Zeppelin was to cover and update old blues tunes to begin with... but that don't explain why they jacked more recent stuff like "Dazed & Confused" and "Taurus." Or why they credited all compositions (and publi$hing) to Page & Plant.

Fucking disgusting.

I mean, the things I like best about them are the things they **didn't** steal.

Houses of the Holy contains no plagiarized material, to my knowledge. And that's clearly their best album.

**shrug**

I-IV are all pretty spotty albums, if you ask me. I hate I and II. III and IV are uneven, at best. Just musically speaking. With the plagiarism, they're worse off.

Houses of the Holy is a really good album though.

~Austin

dont know if it was straight jacked but..

Everytime - Toi

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5kp6GVtpME

Get Dis Money - Slum Village

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-oLqMwzvBY

. . .with a few meaningless overdubs.

Considering how much Jay Dee changed the sample, that seems pretty obvious to me.

~Austin

http://youtu.be/7-rjW3hDPFg


Michael Jackson - Off the Wall

http://youtu.be/YcZeoEztSog

in fact, Ray and 'em were in a real zone from like '79-81 (well, that was the last year of Raydio). The way they arranged their music, and when Ray produced/wrote for others (Herbie Hancock, Cheryl Lynn), that feeling carried over.

I just have to *smh* sometimes at how shameless Ray was with his hit-cloning.

I think he even bit "Off the Wall" twice (or was the other one a bite of "Grooveline"?)

- The Evasions

Passage - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9A7Ub7ho-vg

Message - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4o8TeqKhgY

I still don't know what the science is behind this

which came first

did the same band do both

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpT7iI1d_1E


Gap Band - Party Train
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFLyjyqdJVQ

COULD ANYBODY PLEASE EXPLAIN WHY THESE ARE THE SAME EXACT SONGS!

SMILE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLAZg6nFsLU
ANGEL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Enc-QoXTxBc


Why rip off yourself?! gross

Thief's Theme

lol

Them niggas stole songs they heard on the radio earlier that day.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4-N3ZT9Zrs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVYlhBTC0JE

Beyonce- Sweet Dreams http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlxByc0-V40

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“The other dude after me didn’t help my case. It was just like…crazy nigga factory going on.”
Dre makes no apologies for his own eccentricities. “I was young, and searching, trying to find myself,” he says. “Never did.”-- Andre B

both classics to me.

ditc - day one (prod. diamond d)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxGVdpZnGsI

puffy and fam - young g's (prod. tumblin' dice)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ka--C2cDaXY

rashad smith's flip of the oliver slain "on the hill" is more lush than the diamond one, which is raw as fuck, but they both go.

and the single with Styles P- Rick Ross

yall know what im talkin about

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“The other dude after me didn’t help my case. It was just like…crazy nigga factory going on.”
Dre makes no apologies for his own eccentricities. “I was young, and searching, trying to find myself,” he says. “Never did.”-- Andre B

All Eyes on Me

didn't see mentioned yet

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vt2Cja2YuBc

surprised no one has brought up the whole charles hamilton/ black spade shinin controversy... couldn't find black spade's version on youtube though...