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Topic subjectsongs that were too weird to get on the radio (but did anyway)
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2600545, songs that were too weird to get on the radio (but did anyway)
Posted by Joe Corn Mo, Tue Sep-13-11 02:28 PM
sometimes, we hear a song so often
that we forget that it's actually a very, very strange record.

examples:

"when doves cry" stormed the radio without a bass line.

"crazy" is so out there, that the first time i saw the
video i thought to myself, "what a great record. too bad
it's too bizare to ever blow up..." man, was a i wrong,
that song is a monster.



so add on.


btw, does anybody else think that anita baker's "rapture"
album as very unusual production sensabilities?
the entire album has a jazzy vibe to it that you wouldn't think
would make it on the radio.

but not jazzy in a boring, kenny g sort of way...
it's a dynamic album. but nothing else really
sounds like that.

i mean, if somebody said "hey, i like this anita baker album.
can you recoomend similar stuff?" then i would be at a loss...
because nothing else really sounds like "rapture."

not even her later material... which got TOO laid back.



anyway... add on.
2600547, i thought Madonna's 'Music' would bomb.
Posted by SoWhat, Tue Sep-13-11 02:31 PM
i didn't think her fans would be into it. *i* loved it from the start (i heard the leaked demo) and i thought it was too not-like-Madonna and too funky for her gay white fans to embrace it. i was totally off.
2600849, Thought the same thing
Posted by zuma1986, Tue Sep-13-11 09:05 PM
Especially didn't know why there was that annoying limo driver in it either (Guess I was wrong in 2 ways).
2600563, a little ditty called "Rapper's Delight"
Posted by jamesL, Tue Sep-13-11 02:56 PM
also "Smells Like Dirty Teenage Sex Orgies" by The Nirvana
2600570, Tom's dinner" "Strokin" Clarence Careter
Posted by mistermaxxx08, Tue Sep-13-11 03:00 PM
where i use to live we had this female dj that mocked the dumb blonde jokes and when i first heard that song, i thought ain't no way that is a real song i thought it was a studio joke and little did i know that song ended up blowing up.

"Strokin" Clarence Carter that cracked me up because this is going to be a CHitlin and pigsfeet local Hit at best, wrong again, that thang blew up and got much play.
2600628, "strokin'"cracks me up to this day.
Posted by Joe Corn Mo, Tue Sep-13-11 03:43 PM
2600790, RE: "strokin'"cracks me up to this day.
Posted by hunuh, Tue Sep-13-11 07:25 PM
co-mf-sign.

"I stroke it to the east
And I stroke it to the west
And I stroke it to the woman that I love the best
I be strokin'

Let me ask you somethin'...
What time of the day do you like to make love
Have you ever made love just before breakfast
Have you ever made love while you watched the late, late show
Well, let me ask you this
Have you ever made love on a couch
Well, let me ask you this
Have you ever made love on the back seat of a car
I remember one time I made love on the back seat of a car
And the police came and shined his light on me, and I said..."
2600611, Rock me Amadeus...
Posted by ChanEpic, Tue Sep-13-11 03:32 PM
Anything Biz Markie got on the radio
2600678, my ding a ling by Chuck Berry til this day I'm like WOW!!!!!
Posted by mistermaxxx08, Tue Sep-13-11 04:27 PM
out of all of his songs that is his biggest hit(nu pun intended) and how it made it WOW!

also "double dutch Bus" frankie smith couldn't believe it and yet it was a big hit.
2600686, 'Rapture', yeah.
Posted by Dr Claw, Tue Sep-13-11 04:37 PM
I think it was a natural progression of the "elegant" R&B style that had developed at the tail end of the 1970s and carried throughout the 1980s until artists decided they were going to join the DX7/Simmons Drums/Snap-Bass bandwagon.

I don't think a lot of people followed Anita with that style and those that did were doomed to night-time radio but it was definitely a breath of fresh air in that regard.

2600700, well Sade in that regard
Posted by mistermaxxx08, Tue Sep-13-11 04:47 PM
the whole career because in truth there have been some big hits but the fans stayed loyal and kept it moving with whatever she does.

Anita made two strong records IMO and then hit that formula but had the right songs at the right time.

i love her whiskey and pinapple juice sounding voice.
2600734, dang, forgot Sade -- she definitely was a left turn from 1984 radio
Posted by Dr Claw, Tue Sep-13-11 05:32 PM
when it was all Jheri Curl and Creamy Crack All The Time
2600689, OUTKAST - HEY YA!
Posted by Mr Teeth, Tue Sep-13-11 04:38 PM
2600710, Yepp
Posted by -DJ R-Tistic-, Tue Sep-13-11 04:55 PM
2600737, I dunno...
Posted by Brew, Tue Sep-13-11 05:34 PM
yea the song was weird, but the second I heard it I thought "hit". So I think this only fits half of the criteria posed in the OP.
2600745, several Outkast tunes are sort of surprising
Posted by thebigfunk, Tue Sep-13-11 05:49 PM
but the one that still really surprises me is Bombs... it wasn't even a sleeper, that thing hit right away... with all the musical change-ups and the sort of outright schizophrenia of the tune, it's amazing it took on like it did. *on the other hand* it's not that hard to see why: catchy hook, that insistent, driving beat, and indeed the frenetic quality of the tune combined to make a real immediate epic.

man, that song is still epic.


-thebigfunk

~ i could still snort you under the table ~
2600749, I used to spit Dre's verse before HS basketball games...
Posted by Brew, Tue Sep-13-11 05:56 PM
my teammates would huddle around me and yell out the "1-9-9-9", and "hot" parts of the verse. Would get the team all hyped up before games.

Random memory. But yes, that song is 10000% epic. Both verses are insane. Beat is insane. Etc. etc. etc.
2600752, yes. definitely.. i laughed for about 5 min. solid after the first time
Posted by DonWonJusuton, Tue Sep-13-11 05:57 PM
i heard it... it was more of a "wow, andre has lost his damn mind" than " than "haha this sucks"... it was catchy, but i honestly didn't think ppl were ready for that.. i think the public love for ms. jackson helped ppl get over that initial hump to realize how cool that song is
2600711, Might sound silly, but "Grindin" at the time
Posted by -DJ R-Tistic-, Tue Sep-13-11 04:56 PM
2600720, i didn't think that shit would blow up, either.
Posted by Joe Corn Mo, Tue Sep-13-11 05:07 PM
at first, i kept waiting for the bass to come in...
you know, just waiting for the rest of the beat to drop.

then, it never did... clipse just kept rapping...


and all of a sudden it hit me...
this song is AWESOME!


then folks started playing it everywhere.

so yeah... that's a weird ass record.
2600721, LMAO! Funny thing is, I was on some random Realplayer type website
Posted by -DJ R-Tistic-, Tue Sep-13-11 05:09 PM
and they always had songs months before radio...so they had this, and the description said "This is the worst song the Neptunes have EVER done. This might be the beginning of their demise. The fuck did they do, just bang on a trashcan?" and I heard it in low quality, so I was like wow, yeah this is crap.

Then I saw the BET video n said "oh this shitty song? Well..............hmm, it's actually not that bad" and then I heard it at a party and said ohhh!!!

Even funnier was the production websites I went to back then, and how folks argued about it...some gave props for how the drums were, and even said "they really sampled themselves banging on a table!" n shit til somebody proved it was just a stock Triton kit.
2600736, L M A O
Posted by Dr Claw, Tue Sep-13-11 05:33 PM
>Even funnier was the production websites I went to back then,
>and how folks argued about it...some gave props for how the
>drums were, and even said "they really sampled themselves
>banging on a table!" n shit til somebody proved it was just a
>stock Triton kit.
2600722, RE: songs that were too weird to get on the radio (but did anyway)
Posted by denny, Tue Sep-13-11 05:13 PM
Burning down the house by Talking Heads

Pump up the Jam by technotronic

Johnny come Home by Fine Young Cannibals....and in retrospect...those guys had some really catchy songs.



2600852, I'd add "Once in a Lifetime" as well
Posted by zuma1986, Tue Sep-13-11 09:14 PM
I mean the chorus is catchy but mostly just a guy talking about his existential realizations, not exactly the secret to success.
2600733, The Whisper Song
Posted by Brew, Tue Sep-13-11 05:30 PM
I mean, now looking back and even shortly after it blew I was like "that's a clever ass record", but gimme that shit months in advance and I was like "these fuckin clowns...". So yea. Weird track.
2600738, I remember hearing it in the club and I couldn't hear a WORD they
Posted by -DJ R-Tistic-, Tue Sep-13-11 05:34 PM
said...we all just said "ohh....this beat kinda hard tho" and when the hook dropped, we were like ohhhh ok!
2600739, Haha yea.....
Posted by Brew, Tue Sep-13-11 05:35 PM
hearing it in the club changed my entire view on it, and obviously that's what it was meant for so it made sense.
2600753, Brooklyn Zoo
Posted by Teknontheou, Tue Sep-13-11 06:02 PM
2600786, ITS ME, B!TCHES
Posted by Small Pro, Tue Sep-13-11 07:22 PM
2600831, Tweet - "Oops, Oh My" i still don't get the beat/time sig
Posted by TRENDone, Tue Sep-13-11 08:30 PM
I didn't think Kreayshawn's "Gucci Gucci" would be played nationwide on urban radio, either.
2600863, A Millie was pretty off kilter for a radio single
Posted by Alphabet, Tue Sep-13-11 09:38 PM
Repetitive pitched down vocal sample that never ends,
unorthodox, pinball-type rhyme style by Weezy
no hook, chorus, structure or concept what so ever..

going by conventional wisdom..nothing about that song should translate into a radio hit..

Wound up being a massive smash and Lil Wayne's signature song..



2600867, Yea I had no idea it would be more than a mixtape cut
Posted by -DJ R-Tistic-, Tue Sep-13-11 09:52 PM
I remember Drama played it when he DJ'd at FAMU n I was like wow, an established DJ is actually playin this random mixtape Wayne shit?
2601186, yea, this is a great one... i think wayne knew what he was doing
Posted by DonWonJusuton, Wed Sep-14-11 01:21 PM
by saturating the market up til that point.. i think ppl were familiar enough w/ his voice to let that and his punchlines alone be the main sell.. i dug it the first time i heard it, but def. didn't think anyone would release a huge rap single w/ no hook.. cool shit tho
2600868, Would Soul II Soul "Back 2 life" count?
Posted by -DJ R-Tistic-, Tue Sep-13-11 09:54 PM
I remember it back then, and it was always weird to me that the song was like a minute acapella
2600890, Otis
Posted by AlBundy, Tue Sep-13-11 10:23 PM
n/m

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Dre makes no apologies for his own eccentricities. “I was young, and searching, trying to find myself,” he says. “Never did.”-- Andre B
2600896, Jesus Walks, Love Lockdown
Posted by theillestboYee, Tue Sep-13-11 10:34 PM
2601119, Love Lockdown for sure
Posted by zuma1986, Wed Sep-14-11 11:35 AM
I mean it wasn't his style at the time, not really a catchy chorus, very minimal especially compared to the other songs on radio. Not that I think it'd flop but it definitely surprised me when it went top 5. "Runaway" as well surprised me that it went top 20 but since it's in a similar vein of "Love Lockdown" it's not THAT much of a left turn. Just didn't think that in today's euro-pop and over-produced radio market that it would be pushed, which is why I was so surprised that "Paranoid" flopped since I thought that had all the makings of a hit.
2601330, Yeah, Paranoid is his lowest charting single to date.
Posted by theillestboYee, Wed Sep-14-11 04:00 PM
2601575, timmy t one more try, the lady in red chris deburgh
Posted by mistermaxxx08, Wed Sep-14-11 09:09 PM
some of the most you gotta be kidding tracks that got big on radio.

2601580, D.U.'s "Freaks of the Industry"
Posted by kevb, Wed Sep-14-11 09:17 PM
Kev