2600595, RE: So should all R&B sound one way?
Posted by murph71, Tue Sep-13-11 03:17 PM
>So you don't think there have been great records that were
>deliberately made to sell records or pander to a mass
>audience? If the issue is if it sounds good or not that I get
>but to try and get in any artists head in the music "business"
>is a tricky thing. In general everyone is trying to sell as
>many records to as many people as possible.
No I'm looking at quality and pandering....It's bigger than just trying to gain a mass audience...
>>There is indeed quality cheese out there...I mean
>>"Celebration" by Kool & The Gang was cheesy as
>>hell....lol...But I loved the shit out of that song when I
>was
>>a kid...So no, that's not even the issue...
>>
>>It's the blatant distance that Richie went to crossing over
>>along with the quality of the music after his success with
>the
>>Commodores...And I understand that some folks have a
>different
>>opinion on that....Welcome to America...
>So I think you're saying that the music stopped being good
>right? That I get.
Yes...that's exactly what I'm saying....
>I got the point of the post but I did want OP to say what he
>defines as white bread so that we are clear. Plenty of popular
>Black music has been called white bread from Motown to Nat
>King Cole so I'm wondering how OP or others in here are
>measuring what is or isn't white bread.
Like I said...there's quality mass consumption pop music out there....I don't subscribe to the whole "it has to sound black" for me to dig music...
If you read any of my posts you know that I'm all over the place musically from funk to '70s punk to hip-hop to even some of that cheesy music that we name checked (from post Genesis Phil Collins to even the more beige, post big Luther Vandross)....
I think that Lionel's music after the Commodores (although I dug some of that first solo album) was generic bullshit music for middle of the road folks...
That's my beef with Lionel....Other than that, he was an exceptional songwriter when he wanted to be...He just happened to make some of the most dullest music known to man during that era...
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