Laydown
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Interview
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The Beautiful Ones
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You're the One for Me (D Train cover)
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i aint even watched the youtube since it's 11:59 here in the west coast and i wanna watch rosario pretty ass on the big screen.

best believe i'll be at one of them 21 shows.

yeah

Maybe that hip stuff is true.....

He had on real heels in his interview with George. And after seeing him at MSG in December, I'm convinced he had the surgery. He's wearing real heels more and he was on top of the piano and moving all around at MSG. He was moving unlike any way I've seen him in years.

The way dude is staying true to his classics now is just a beautiful thing
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Did he ask D train if he can do this song? One thing I don't like about Prince is his hypocrisy. He always makes a stink when someone covers his songs, but he has no problem covering other people's songs in concert AND on record.

Dude covers people all the time.... then he rolled out D-Train's jam to close Lopez. Seriously does this dude not listen to what he's saying?
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>Seriously does this dude not listen to what he's saying?

I love his music, but I can't clap to everything he does and stuff like this pisses me off.

>I love his music, but I can't clap to everything he does and
>stuff like this pisses me off.

Prince is hands down my favorite artist ever but I'd stop short of saying I actually like the dude.
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"HE is an ass."

that line cracked me up.

he's not going to do that without clearing it first.

Prince is selective about who performs his songs....he should be. I see nothing wrong with that. He's cleared plenty of folks to remake his tunes.... he just doesn't want his music presented a way that's below what he sees as a certain standard. I totally respect that about him...

Him doing you're the one for me..I mean that's a classic electro funk song...and if I'm not mistaken isn't there a minneapolis connection to the group D-Train?? Which again would make even more sense.

and in the music world he's right

still doesn't change the fact he's an ass for saying some of the shit he does
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out of line last night during the interview?

>out of line last night during the interview?
>
He said during the interview how he didn't like people playing his music.

b/c he doesn't want amateurs playing his music.

LOL

he's a complete asshole. lol

Warner Brothers....on his older music I believe..

Most of us work with all types of people we might have issues with... it's called being an adult.
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pride is pretty strong.... I think if WB came at him the right way there's a possibility...but I wouldn't hold my breath.

it would be a great move for him though....

that fence would be easier to mend than the one it would take to make a P-Funk Guitar hero happen...which to me would be a no-brainer because you already have a fictional storyline that involves sci-fi and characters...

but them legal issues are in the way.

Why and for what reason?

>pride is pretty strong.... I think if WB came at him the
>right way there's a possibility...but I wouldn't hold my
>breath.
>
>it would be a great move for him though....
>
>that fence would be easier to mend than the one it would take
>to make a P-Funk Guitar hero happen...which to me would be a
>no-brainer because you already have a fictional storyline that
>involves sci-fi and characters...
>
>but them legal issues are in the way.

he's an entertainer.

and, of course, to make money. he's a businessman.

teach them how to actually play guitar. It's more asshole-ish to go
calling the man an asshole without knowing his reasons for doing and
saying what he does. He said he'd be all for it if it actually taught
the skill of guitar playing.

and yeah, that does take his assholia down a notch.

but only a notch. lol

He doesn't want his music used in ways that he disagrees with. He has
that right and he exercises it. God forbid a man have standards on
how is own creations are used. Having different standards for his work
doesn't mean he thinks he's better than everyone else.

and then doing a cover in the very same show is hypocritical at the very least ... the arrogance of saying that and doing something else is the sign of a prima donna for sure.
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Who cares.

>and then doing a cover in the very same show is hypocritical
>at the very least ... the arrogance of saying that and doing
>something else is the sign of a prima donna for sure.
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My point is, he gets mad when people cover his songs. He even talked about it in the interview last night. But he has no problem covering other people's songs. He made a big deal about the Glee thing. Saying he didn't give permission, but yet they performed it. Maybe D-Train didn't give permission. I don't know. But is hypocrisy starts to wear on me.

and i'm 100% sure he knows this.

griping about these usages of his songs just makes him look like an ass, imo.

he got paid for the Glee usage, i'm sure. if he didn't, he's got beef.

Do you niggas listen to anything?

>he's not going to do that without clearing it first.
>
>Prince is selective about who performs his songs....he should
>be.

he has no say in that, as far as i know. i believe ppl are free to sing his songs (and any copyrighted song) in concert and on record whenever they want. but he has to be paid a mechanical license fee via Harry Fox.

>Prince is selective about who performs his songs....he should
>be. I see nothing wrong with that. He's cleared plenty of
>folks to remake his tunes.... he just doesn't want his music
>presented a way that's below what he sees as a certain
>standard. I totally respect that about him...

When you write and record a song, the shit is out there and it's free for ANYBODY to do their own version.

You don't want people to sing your song? Then keep your song to yourself.

I can't even imagine the enormity of insecure assholishness that would even motivate someone to try and control people in that way... Incredible.

accomplishments as Prince is doing something wrong by feeling protective of his own work..

I find it admirable really. He should feel that way about his music.

Prince's arrogant, self-absorbed, perfectionist attitude made him who he is. The world of music would have been a lot better if more people had that same attitude and could actually back it up as he's done.

Prince came up in an era where you needed a certain quality and skill about what you do....in the studio and live on stage. Bring it or find another line of work....and the guy has backed it up for over 30 years.

Prince is an extremely talented performer of iconic status

Prince is a self-absorbed ass

One doesn't excuse or negate the other
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I'm also not sure he would have been as successful without that part of his personality being so strong...

as a fan there are times it gets in the way of him maximizing his output....but it's kind of an accept part of who he is...

not to speak ill of the deceased.....but I mean Michael's "short-comings" were certainly more detrimental to his later career than Prince's have been to his. Prince has improved some in that area...but obviously it's still there...

and I honestly think in his mind that's part of what he needs to do to keep going and produce....and that I'm not mad at.

>I'm also not sure he would have been as successful without
>that part of his personality being so strong...

the byproduct of assholish ways still doesn't change the fact he's as ass. It's like a 400 pound cat winning a pie eating contest... his size may have helped him but he's still fat.

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i called Prince an asshole.

big difference.

>accomplishments as Prince is doing something wrong by feeling
>protective of his own work..

Bottom line: there is no valid legal or ethical basis for barring anybody from singing your songs.

Cry about it.

But we already know Prince is a self-absorbed asshole... We're used to that. the problem is this:

>I find it admirable really. He should feel that way about his
>music.

You stay cosigning bullshit instead of calling it what it is. That's a sign of a weak mind... Prince is a genius, and hence everything he does is right.

Please.

>Prince's arrogant, self-absorbed, perfectionist attitude made
>him who he is. The world of music would have been a lot
>better if more people had that same attitude and could
>actually back it up as he's done.

Whatever.

Stevie Wonder has accomplished a lot in his career too and he somehow managed to do it without being a massive dick.

Stevie don't give a shit who sings his songs because he's secure enough to understand that no matter how great or terrible a cover of his song is, it doesn't in any way affect the brilliance of his own version.

>Prince came up in an era where you needed a certain quality
>and skill about what you do....in the studio and live on
>stage. Bring it or find another line of work....and the guy
>has backed it up for over 30 years.

...and all that has WHAT to do with acting like a spoiled baby?

>>accomplishments as Prince is doing something wrong by
>feeling
>>protective of his own work..
>
>Bottom line: there is no valid legal or ethical basis for
>barring anybody from singing your songs.
>
>Cry about it.

Nor is there any reason on earth why it should bother YOU that Prince has the opinion that he doesn't want people covering his music unless it's something he agrees with.

Why should that bother anyone?



>
>But we already know Prince is a self-absorbed asshole... We're
>used to that. the problem is this:
>
>>I find it admirable really. He should feel that way about
>his
>>music.
>
>You stay cosigning bullshit instead of calling it what it is.
>That's a sign of a weak mind... Prince is a genius, and hence
>everything he does is right.


I have no need to analyze the guy that deep. I don't know what he's thinking, nor really care. See, you spend a lot of time forming opinions about things. That's fine, but you seem to think that YOUR opinion about an artists music is more important than their own opinion of it. That is honestly dellusional to me.

Prince has done a lot of things I don't agree with. He has yet to call Warren Coolidge and ask "Hey Coolidge, what do you think I've done wrong?" So there is no need for me to run and talk about what I don't agree with about the guy.

but in this case...I don't see anything wrong with his view on this. And again, I admire Prince having that attitude about himself. That guy took every challenge and barrier towards his success and he overcame it all through mostly his will and work ethic. And the music world would be a better place if more artists had that view of themselves, and the ability to make it happen.




>Please.
>
>>Prince's arrogant, self-absorbed, perfectionist attitude
>made
>>him who he is. The world of music would have been a lot
>>better if more people had that same attitude and could
>>actually back it up as he's done.
>
>Whatever.
>
>Stevie Wonder has accomplished a lot in his career too and he
>somehow managed to do it without being a massive dick.

Prince isn't Stevie Wonder....he's Prince. 2 different people who will obviously handle things differently.


>
>Stevie don't give a shit who sings his songs because he's
>secure enough to understand that no matter how great or
>terrible a cover of his song is, it doesn't in any way affect
>the brilliance of his own version.

so...lol.

>
>>Prince came up in an era where you needed a certain quality
>>and skill about what you do....in the studio and live on
>>stage. Bring it or find another line of work....and the guy
>>has backed it up for over 30 years.
>
>...and all that has WHAT to do with acting like a spoiled
>baby?


I honestly think it's childish to put this much effort into analyzing other people's personality. Either dig the guys music or don't. It's not like he's a child molestor or anything. Not sure what his personality has to do with anything...other than the fact I believe his personality pushed him to put the type of imprint he has on the world of music...

and for that I'm appreciative.

It doesn't require any analysis to realize that you can't and shouldn't keep anybody from singing your songs and anybody who throws hissy fits over this reality is a bitch.

As is anybody who cosigns those hissy fits.

No analysis necessary... it's very basic.

and what is he doing to keep people from singing his songs???


from my perspective he's simply saying he doesn't like for people to, or saying he preferred they not do it.

seems to me that Prince is expressing a feeling about his music, and folks are getting pissy about his feelings..

people catching feelings over Prince's feelings.

so it's not like he's passively stating a preference.

"action" he did in that regard...

(I mean other than him rolling his eyes at the BET awards when Trey Songs starting singing purple rain. I thought that was hilarious)

you catching feelings over someone elses feelings about their own work.


so prince is an hole....ok.... because he doesn't like people remaking his music...

and folks who agree with them are holes too.....

ok..

so what were you saying when Mike had them kids in his bed...or R. was getting with middle schoolers???

I don't recall you getting as agitated at those 2...

but Prince??? he doesn't want anyone singing purple rain so he's just terrible...lol.

That was a piece of shit version of Doves if I ever heard one

But I'm not saying P doesn't have the right to talk shit about bad covers of his music... I just think he should word it in a way that doesn't sound like he's against all covers when he's in the business of doing them himself.
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doesn't mean you can be me...lol.

>That was a piece of shit version of Doves if I ever heard
>one

Agreed, and Little X called it on Foley doin Prince covers
I'd rather hear him doin prince than prince lately

Dude, had a hint of bitterness in his interview with Lopez
Cuz, both Sinead & Chaka made those songs of his HITS
Whereas he couldn't for whatever reasons

Prince said it was cool is HIS friends covered him ?!?
WTF ?!??

Fuckin SPOILED nut-job that guy

it even allowed that song to be in rotation in his live show, which if she had never remade it, it would probably have never been heard again.

again...you're proving my point bro...

"Bottom line: there is no valid legal or ethical basis for barring anybody from singing your songs"

that's what you said..

I asked you to show me where Prince's ACTIONS.. (not his expressed feelings about it...his ACTIONS) Where did Prince's actions show that he believes that remaking his music is either illegal or unethical..

you're catching feelings about Prince's FEELINGS..not actions...

yet said nothing when other Artists who you like more committed....ok...allegedly committed heinous crimes..

don't act all high and mighty with me my n*gga when using such incredible double standards..... save that for people whoe know that you're full of shit..lol.

Whether or not you believe that he actually hit her, as she seems to suggest (I don't, by the way), it is clear that a very real altercation did occur between them.

That is an ACTION... not feelings.

Prince himself admits that he saw Ginuwine at an event and went right up to him to tell him off for covering "Doves."

ACTION... not feelings.

longer than she hasn't been...lol.

I would like to see a celebrity death match cartoon of Prince vs. Sinead though.... wouldn't be an easy match for prince..you got to watch them ballheaded hoes like Willie D used to say..lol.

you just don't like Prince...

he's an arrogant asshole...as have a lot of artists....it's like seasoning salt to his funky music.....

again not to try to read dudes mind..but I honestly believe that's been part of his confidence and drive..and rather than be critical of it...I just try to understand it..

he's a gemini..

so was Miles...


and so is Warren Coolidge dammit!!!!

ANYBODY who pitches a fit over people singing their songs is lame, and so is anybody who cosigns it.

The end.

>accomplishments as Prince is doing something wrong by feeling
>protective of his own work..
>
>I find it admirable really. He should feel that way about his
>music.
>
>Prince's arrogant, self-absorbed, perfectionist attitude made
>him who he is. The world of music would have been a lot
>better if more people had that same attitude and could
>actually back it up as he's done.
>
>Prince came up in an era where you needed a certain quality
>and skill about what you do....in the studio and live on
>stage. Bring it or find another line of work....and the guy
>has backed it up for over 30 years.
>
>

>Him doing you're the one for me..I mean that's a classic
>electro funk song...and if I'm not mistaken isn't there a
>minneapolis connection to the group D-Train?? Which again
>would make even more sense.

but he and "D-Train" hooked up in NYC (which is where I associate that "sound" Hube had geographically)

>Did he ask D train if he can do this song? One thing I don't
>like about Prince is his hypocrisy. He always makes a stink
>when someone covers his songs, but he has no problem covering
>other people's songs in concert AND on record.

LOL oh I wish that was the ONLY contradiction he's guilty of *coughthebullshitassfreethemusicsermoncough*

His interviews are more enjoyable to watch if we could shrug off stuff like that. I loved that interview/performance though, simply because it generated new fans and the fact that he seems more relaxed with giving "small talk" interviews, and the brother has not really been keen on small talk.

>
>LOL oh I wish that was the ONLY contradiction he's guilty of
>*coughthebullshitassfreethemusicsermoncough*
>
>His interviews are more enjoyable to watch if we could shrug
>off stuff like that. I loved that interview/performance
>though, simply because it generated new fans and the fact that
>he seems more relaxed with giving "small talk" interviews, and
>the brother has not really been keen on small talk.

It was one of his better TV interviews. He didn't go on a diatribe about the industry and didn't speak in religious mumbo jumbo.

>Did he ask D train if he can do this song? One thing I don't
>like about Prince is his hypocrisy. He always makes a stink
>when someone covers his songs, but he has no problem covering
>other people's songs in concert AND on record

I think he is talking about folks who make a career out of a hit cover or who doesn't do it justice by making a truly awful version lol

>I think he is talking about folks who make a career out of a
>hit cover or who doesn't do it justice by making a truly awful
>version lol

He made the argument that a cover erases the original. Beyond that being a dumb statement it means he's been erasing music by everyone from Joan Osborne to Delfonics.


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>>I think he is talking about folks who make a career out of
>a
>>hit cover or who doesn't do it justice by making a truly
>awful
>>version lol
>
>He made the argument that a cover erases the original. Beyond
>that being a dumb statement it means he's been erasing music
>by everyone from Joan Osborne to Delfonics.


<---sings Controversy as Contradictory

we know he loves making waves

but even if he really believes what he say it doesn't matter in the end... as I keep saying over and over we pay attention to him because of the music not his philosophies. He can talk all the crazy shit he wants and as long as it don't hurt nobody I don't give a damn... just kept entertaining me and we good.
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>we know he loves making waves

he loves making waves..always has..even moreso now...he loves the do as I say not as I do approach..its the imp in him


>but even if he really believes what he say it doesn't matter
>in the end... as I keep saying over and over we pay attention
>to him because of the music not his philosophies. He can talk
>all the crazy shit he wants and as long as it don't hurt
>nobody I don't give a damn... just kept entertaining me and we
>good.


the Wright brothers cant fuck with that(c) Morris Day/The Bird

He just says shit to say it. I don't think he believes half of the shit he says and he knows that no one is really going to check him on it. He likes to manipulate the public and people in general so he just says shit like "covers take away from the original". I thought it was funny watching George Lopez say "what can we do about this?". Yeah handle that George.

> I thought it was funny watching George
>Lopez say "what can we do about this?". Yeah handle that
>George.

For some reason I like Lopez but dude really is an awful talk show host
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and I really like him. He comes across like a really good dude and I loved his sitcom but he is not a good host. I feel about him the same way I feel about Monique...I dig them as comedians and people but they can't host a show to save their lives.

>Did he ask D train if he can do this song? One thing I don't
>like about Prince is his hypocrisy. He always makes a stink
>when someone covers his songs, but he has no problem covering
>other people's songs in concert AND on record.

>Did he ask D train if he can do this song? One thing I don't
>like about Prince is his hypocrisy. He always makes a stink
>when someone covers his songs, but he has no problem covering
>other people's songs in concert AND on record.

cool thanks for sharing

the cover part has been covered, pun intended.

But LOL @ 'there's only one version of Law & Order' as his example.

Also LOL @ him bigging up Live Nation to slam TicketMaster when they're now the same company.

Regardless, I'm going to see The Midget for 25 bucks with no service fees next week so however he deluded himself of Live Nation into making that possible I am thankful.

>Also LOL @ him bigging up Live Nation to slam TicketMaster
>when they're now the same company.

I see why people would find his attitude about other people playing his music self-centered ...and even hypocritical considering he played a cover on the show he said this... (their version of You're the one of me was funky...I'm sure D Train didn't mind)


but here's the real question..


Shouldn't a person who wrote a song..or from a legal standpoint...shouldn't the person who has the copyright have to approve of someone performing their song or recording it?

how does it make him an asshole to think that he should have that right??

seems pretty reasonable to me...

and his examples of music being the only artform like that is telling...

the law allows covers...Prince thinks he should have that right over his own work..

seems pretty reasonable to me...

maybe he could have worded it different..but I totally agree with his premise..

I don't think he was saying he doesn't want people to do it...he doesn't agree with the process by which it's currently done.

They mad at anything and everything he says or does, yet it's the same reason they became fans in the first place.

Very simple STFU, and go get you 25$ tickets and enjoy the GOAT for 21 days in LA.

Same mofos up in here will be in section 25$ screaming like a bitch, when the show begins and ends.






>I see why people would find his attitude about other people
>playing his music self-centered ...and even hypocritical
>considering he played a cover on the show he said this...
>(their version of You're the one of me was funky...I'm sure D
>Train didn't mind)
>
>
>but here's the real question..
>
>
>Shouldn't a person who wrote a song..or from a legal
>standpoint...shouldn't the person who has the copyright have
>to approve of someone performing their song or recording it?
>
>
>how does it make him an asshole to think that he should have
>that right??
>
>seems pretty reasonable to me...
>
>and his examples of music being the only artform like that is
>telling...
>
>the law allows covers...Prince thinks he should have that
>right over his own work..
>
>seems pretty reasonable to me...
>
>maybe he could have worded it different..but I totally agree
>with his premise..
>
>I don't think he was saying he doesn't want people to do
>it...he doesn't agree with the process by which it's currently
>done.

>They mad at anything and everything he says or does, yet it's
>the same reason they became fans in the first place.
>
>Very simple STFU, and go get you 25$ tickets and enjoy the
>GOAT for 21 days in LA.
>
>Same mofos up in here will be in section 25$ screaming like a
>bitch, when the show begins and ends.


hahahaahah

Man I don't want to have to disrespect you and I damn sure ain't interested in starting some board war over this but you posting like a 13 year old Justin Beiber fan.

News flash.... it's possible for people to dig an artist's music and not agree with everything they do or say. You going in on everyone that dares to criticize Prince is some seriously juvenile shit.
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>Man I don't want to have to disrespect you and I damn sure
>ain't interested in starting some board war over this but you
>posting like a 13 year old Justin Beiber fan.
>
>News flash.... it's possible for people to dig an artist's
>music and not agree with everything they do or say. You going
>in on everyone that dares to criticize Prince is some
>seriously juvenile shit.

I just don't understand these fools sometimes
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>I just don't understand these fools sometimes
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you should ask live nation if you could by a STFU ticket for 25$




>Man I don't want to have to disrespect you and I damn sure
>ain't interested in starting some board war over this but you
>posting like a 13 year old Justin Beiber fan.
>
>News flash.... it's possible for people to dig an artist's
>music and not agree with everything they do or say. You going
>in on everyone that dares to criticize Prince is some
>seriously juvenile shit.
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this act is tired and worst of all boring
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>I see why people would find his attitude about other people
>playing his music self-centered ...and even hypocritical
>considering he played a cover on the show he said this...
>(their version of You're the one of me was funky...I'm sure D
>Train didn't mind)
>
>
>but here's the real question..
>
>
>Shouldn't a person who wrote a song..or from a legal
>standpoint...shouldn't the person who has the copyright have
>to approve of someone performing their song or recording it?

No because that's now how it works and he knows that. He grew up playing covers in bands just like every other artist did.
>
>how does it make him an asshole to think that he should have
>that right??

Because he does covers of other artists songs! If he didn't do covers in concert and on record and he had that thought process then at least I could say he's consistent. Then I love the way he tried to blame the "evil" record companies for this. Record companies have absolutely nothing to do with artists covering another artists song. WB donesn't get one penny from TLC or whoever covering a Prince song.
>
>seems pretty reasonable to me...
>
>and his examples of music being the only artform like that is
>telling...

It's not the only artform that allows that. Plenty of artists pull from other artists work in other forms of art. Comedy allows for parody of another artists work and there are tons of other examples.
>
>the law allows covers...Prince thinks he should have that
>right over his own work..
>
>seems pretty reasonable to me...

The entire history of popular music from Classical, to Jazz, to Rock N Roll to R&B is based on different musicians versions of songs whether it's standards or public domain songs like Merry Christmas. It's something that existed long before record companies or the music industry as we know it even existed.
>
>maybe he could have worded it different..but I totally agree
>with his premise..
>
>I don't think he was saying he doesn't want people to do
>it...he doesn't agree with the process by which it's currently
>done.

That's exactly what he was saying. It was a rant and then him going on and performing a cover just made it even more funny. Just because someone is a great artist doesn't mean they can't say silly shit. He also said the internet was "over", people shouldn't vote and plenty of other shit that makes no sense. He's an artist and he's all over the place. That's fine but stop acting like he can't be wrong about shit or contradictory.

>Shouldn't a person who wrote a song..or from a legal
>standpoint...shouldn't the person who has the copyright have
>to approve of someone performing their song or recording it?

no. copyright law exists to ENCOURAGE innovation via the use of other ppl's work. but it also seeks to protect the interest of the producers of various works by ensuring that they will be credited and paid for their work. if artists had to get permission from the copyright holder before they're able to record or play a cover, we'd rarely have any cover songs recorded or played. via copyright law, we as a society have decided to encourage the playing and recording of cover songs.

>how does it make him an asshole to think that he should have
>that right??

b/c he does the same thing, #1.

#2 b/c he's seeking to stifle artistic expression that doesn't harm him, his work, or his pocketbook. in fact, covers of his songs probably tend to help expose his music to a wider audience, increase ppl's appreciation for his original renderings, and result in various payments to him as the copyright holder.

>seems pretty reasonable to me...
>
>and his examples of music being the only artform like that is
>telling...

he's wrong about that. copyrights work this way w/everything. it's part of the point of copyright law.

>>Shouldn't a person who wrote a song..or from a legal
>>standpoint...shouldn't the person who has the copyright have
>>to approve of someone performing their song or recording it?
>
>
>no. copyright law exists to ENCOURAGE innovation via the use
>of other ppl's work. but it also seeks to protect the
>interest of the producers of various works by ensuring that
>they will be credited and paid for their work. if artists had
>to get permission from the copyright holder before they're
>able to record or play a cover, we'd rarely have any cover
>songs recorded or played. via copyright law, we as a society
>have decided to encourage the playing and recording of cover
>songs.


I can buy that argument.....but I'm wondering why that rule should apply to music and not other forms of creative art.

and I think you're leaving out a very important point. The law is not what it is to promote innovation through other people's work as much as it's a way for the RECORD COMPANY or the entity that controls the copyright of an artist song to continue to benefit financially beyond that one artist. Artists come and go...but a solid piece of work can continue to benefit the record company beyond the duration of one artist.




>>how does it make him an asshole to think that he should have
>>that right??
>
>b/c he does the same thing, #1.
>
>#2 b/c he's seeking to stifle artistic expression that doesn't
>harm him, his work, or his pocketbook. in fact, covers of his
>songs probably tend to help expose his music to a wider
>audience, increase ppl's appreciation for his original
>renderings, and result in various payments to him as the
>copyright holder.

I'm honestly not buying the "using other people's work encourages innovation" argument. Why can't people innovate their own original work?? I think this has really hurt the music in that there is too much relying on other people's work


>
>>seems pretty reasonable to me...
>>
>>and his examples of music being the only artform like that
>is
>>telling...
>
>he's wrong about that. copyrights work this way w/everything.
> it's part of the point of copyright law.

So I can put someone else's painting in my art show without asking them??? I can use Snoopy in a commercial without getting perimmission from the Schulz family?
>
>

>>>Shouldn't a person who wrote a song..or from a legal
>>>standpoint...shouldn't the person who has the copyright
>have
>>>to approve of someone performing their song or recording
>it?
>>
>>
>>no. copyright law exists to ENCOURAGE innovation via the
>use
>>of other ppl's work. but it also seeks to protect the
>>interest of the producers of various works by ensuring that
>>they will be credited and paid for their work. if artists
>had
>>to get permission from the copyright holder before they're
>>able to record or play a cover, we'd rarely have any cover
>>songs recorded or played. via copyright law, we as a
>society
>>have decided to encourage the playing and recording of cover
>>songs.
>
>
>I can buy that argument.....but I'm wondering why that rule
>should apply to music and not other forms of creative art.
>
>and I think you're leaving out a very important point. The law
>is not what it is to promote innovation through other people's
>work as much as it's a way for the RECORD COMPANY or the
>entity that controls the copyright of an artist song to
>continue to benefit financially beyond that one artist.
>Artists come and go...but a solid piece of work can continue
>to benefit the record company beyond the duration of one
>artist.

They get nothing, ziltch, nada. In fact record companies don't want covers because that will take away from the sales of their master recording. Covers have existed before record companies existed. Artists cover songs because they love the songs or artists not because record companies are forcing them to. That's a complete fallacy. Cover bands don't exist because of some record company conspiracy...they exist because musicians are fans of other musicians and want to play their songs it's that simple.
>
>
>
>
>>>how does it make him an asshole to think that he should
>have
>>>that right??
>>
>>b/c he does the same thing, #1.
>>
>>#2 b/c he's seeking to stifle artistic expression that
>doesn't
>>harm him, his work, or his pocketbook. in fact, covers of
>his
>>songs probably tend to help expose his music to a wider
>>audience, increase ppl's appreciation for his original
>>renderings, and result in various payments to him as the
>>copyright holder.
>
>I'm honestly not buying the "using other people's work
>encourages innovation" argument. Why can't people innovate
>their own original work?? I think this has really hurt the
>music in that there is too much relying on other people's work
>
>
>
>>
>>>seems pretty reasonable to me...
>>>
>>>and his examples of music being the only artform like that
>>is
>>>telling...
>>
>>he's wrong about that. copyrights work this way
>w/everything.
>> it's part of the point of copyright law.
>
>So I can put someone else's painting in my art show without
>asking them??? I can use Snoopy in a commercial without
>getting perimmission from the Schulz family?
>>
>>
>

and I kinda like the album version

shit didn't translate live at all
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album version didn't translate well in the studio at all

>and I kinda like the album version
>
>shit didn't translate live at all
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that you liked it speaks volumes.

But I resolved that I'm just on another planet and I don't get it... So I'll keep my mouth shut.

("Lay It Down" was particularly shite, though)

but i believe you.

that speaks volume that you like that

which isn't saying very much at all.

His current line-up is pretty sick, man... and he keeps the preaching out of it nowadays. Word up.

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Sung the Hades out of that song.

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There are folks over on the org bitching about how bad he sounded... Prince is one of the most polarizing musical figures in my lifetime. There are those that think he can no wrong and other hurt ex-fans that take shots at him like some ex-girl friend.
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Seeing Prince perform now is really a testiment to his greatness ...not many artists of his stature have been able to perform at the level he does and sound that good at this age and time in his career..

I thought he sounded really good...He aint 25 any more.

80% are either wild-eyed Prince fanatics or biter ex-fans. It's one of the reasons I won't engage in discussions about P over there.

I loved that version of The Beautiful Ones... It had more warmth than the original but stayed true to it at the same time.
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that I attribute the recent renditions being better & that he doesn't truncate the ending into another song, medley-style. He dropped it (live) eons ago but the climax doesn't have the same effect without "Would that be cool" and such.

>There are folks over on the org bitching about how bad he
>sounded... Prince is one of the most polarizing musical
>figures in my lifetime. There are those that think he can no
>wrong and other hurt ex-fans that take shots at him like some
>ex-girl friend.

Yeah, that must be leftover hate. He sang the shit out of that song.

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Goddamn:

DMSR
Pop Life
Prince & The Band
Extraordinary
Uptown
Raspberry Beret
Cream
Cool (with Don't Stop 'Till You Get Enough interpolation)
Let's Work
U Got the Look
Purple Rain
Let's Go Crazy
Delirious
1999
The Beautiful Ones
Little Red Corvette

1st Encore:
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Kiss
When Doves Cry / Nasty Girls / Sign Of The Times / Darling Nikki / 777-9311 / Single Ladies
If Eye Was Ur Girlfriend
Insatiable
Scandalous
Adore

2nd Encore:
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A Love Bizarre (with Sheila E.)
Play That Funky Music (Wild Cherry cover)
Controversy (with Housequake chants)

3rd Encore:
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The Glamorous Life (with Sheila E.)
Peach (with Sheila E.)

4th Encore:
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Dance (Disco Heat) (Sylvester cover)
Baby I'm a Star

5th Encore:
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Stratus (Billy Cobham cover)
Sometimes It Snows in April

6th Encore:
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Laydown
Endorphinmachine
She's Always in My Hair
Dreamer (mostly instrumental)
Welcome 2 America

It also reminds me of how special the Oakland shows were because I wouldn't have traded that for what I saw... even though it's an great set list itself.
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He sounded great and he seemed really happy and like he was having a good time. I was surprised he did some of his more risque songs like DMSR and Cream. And I loved him doing Time songs and even playing and acknowledging songs like Darling Nikki. It wasn't completly sold out but the crowd was great and I'm really glad that I went the first night.

damn.

i might fuck around and go to like 3 of these forum shows.

or why Da Queen thainks The Ruuts are "too soulful"?

or how ?uest forgot to anchor his own post? lmao.

and then there's the fact his show is god awful
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I thought he would have done the show during his Madison Square Garden shows. And come on OP...Fallon sucks but he's no worse than Lopez.

>I thought he would have done the show during his Madison
>Square Garden shows. And come on OP...Fallon sucks but he's no
>worse than Lopez.

and it's not like he doesn't know The Roots (?uest, in specific).

I can't resist any opportunity to express my disdain for a dude that makes Carlos Mencia look like Richard Pryor.

>and it's not like he doesn't know The Roots (?uest, in
>specific).

We never know what state that relationship is in either.
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>and then there's the fact his show is god awful
>
I never liked Fallon but the bottom line is there's been more 'moments' on that show in the past six months or so then Lopez's show will have during its entire run.

That show is truly shitty & I actually kinda liked Lopez a bit as a stand-up at one point.

and the show is in LA... the same city he is trying to sellout 21 shows in. And I can almost bet Lopez's audience has a greater number of Black and Latino viewers than say Leno, Conan or Kimmel. Plus it's such a big score for Lopez he basically let Prince take over the whole show... In many ways it was one long infomercial. If you look at this as a marketing tactic it makes perfect sense.

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Maybe he hates Fallon as much as you do? Fallon would have done the exact same thing for him for the NY shows...let him take over the whole show so it does surprise me that he wouldn't do it. I thought I read that Quest was at the NY show so that lead me to believe they were on good terms but with P%&$ you never know. I thought he would have done Letterman too.

I don't think it came anywhere close to 21 dates. I figure P knew he could just show up there and sell out a half dozen shows or so... 21 dates requires a little work even for an icon.
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I think the late-night talk show format as a whole is pretty asse at this point, but there's hardly anybody at least trying to keep it more fresh than Fallon & the gang.

I bet you be watching Dave though, right? wtf man!

Even when i flip over now and then it's for no more than a segment or two... and that's usually just when there is someone I want to see on his show.

I just find Fallon neither likeable or funny... hated dude on SNL and he seems just as bad any time he's on the big screen... even in a small role. The day him and that shit eating grin disappears from TV will be a day for celebration that's for sure.
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But I think his persona works on a talk show.

I really think he's the closest thing we've got today to NBC-era Letterman.

The show is far from perfect but more often than not, it's a lot of fun... I just don't get the hate people have for it.

And then went back a few times months later... mainly just to see Quest and them. It seemed the show got a little tighter but I still didn't find it funny really.


>I really think he's the closest thing we've got today to
>NBC-era Letterman.

When he rolls out a character even half as funny as Larry Bud Mellman we'll have this talk again.

>The show is far from perfect but more often than not, it's a
>lot of fun... I just don't get the hate people have for it.

If you enjoy it more power to you.... I'm just telling you why I hate the dude's comedy. I'm not alone either.
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i haven't made it through a complete episode yet.

i'll fall asleep during the monologue and wake up when it's going off, or fall asleep during an interview and wake up during a musical performance, etc., etc.

but it's actually not a bad show, in fact it's the best network or cable late-night show going right now (due in no small part to The Legendary's contributions but also because Fallon's kid-in-a-candy-store persona actually works in this context).

It started rough but now that he's gotten comfortable it's gotten a lot more watchable.

I don't often watch it straight through but where else are you gonna see The Roots backing Springsteen one night & Rae/Ghost the next along with some 'viral' type of sketches like Fallon's on-point Neil Young imitation or the other week's classic 'Doin Lines' Soul Train send-up.

I WOULDA *BEEEEEEN* CLICKED THEM LAINKS!!

You going to have her out there and least give her some shine... instead of giving that Vulcan Shelby the mic why not let Sheila do one of her jams.
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I thought the same thing during the Lopez taping but Sheila was out front and center drums and all during one of the encores playing Glamourous Life and she looked and sounded great.
Did you just call that woman a Vulcan?? Ouch.

But she was right in the middle of P's set at the shows here. When she came up through the trap door in the stage the house went nuts... she played a full version of GL then did Love Bizarre with Prince. From that point on she stayed up there playing with the rest of the band and even took over Blackwell's kit on Purple Rain.
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She was the featured guest and did her 2 big songs and then stayed out with the band.
The crowd went nuts and they looked like they were having a ball together. Oh and I'm really glad that he has John Blackwell back on drums...that dude is no fucking joke.

he's ever had. *Almost*

I don't understand it either
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and Wendy played acoustic guitar with him, he didn't say her name at all.

I shared this with a few of my other friends.

Why do older artists' tastes turn completely cheeseball over time?

The recorded version of this song is so raw and dirty. Electric guitars blaring and all. This shit sound like some lite fm smooth jazz shit with those horrible string patch stabs.

Reminds me of the story ?uest told about how Stevie wanted to work with him but wanted him to program some drums for him. NOOOOOOOO, Stevie!!!




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prince is amazing! He needs to come back to London for another residency! I went to 3 of them when he did the 21 nights in london and they were all completely different, the shows were rammed! We love Prince over here and his shows sell out! I would love so much to be at one of the LA shows...he is a legend. I don't give a damn if he's an a'hole, he isn't the only artist who can be accused of this. I just want to hear his music and see him perform.

The Lopez clips were brilliant
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