Just fyi, this really is less about the study of hip-hop as music and more about how TIRED I am of reading about hip-hop as culture from people that can only look at the music through sociological microscopes. I'm not really prepared to go into hip-hop as valid musically, and while I understand why you raised it, it's taking things further off course. Nevertheless....

>It's too young. AND it has no real rules, as relates to
>"teachable" forms of music.

You're putting me in a catch 22 cause in this post I'm really like fuck it all. But only because they don't give a fuck about music. I don't care about teaching or any of that. My point is you motherfuckers shut the fuck up unless you show you can talk about the music, not just posit about a culture that doesn't really exist.

>Isn't THAT a "Hip-Hop" argument? "It's whatever you want it to
>be" or "You can't teach Hip-Hop...this shit is just IN you".

Except it's inverting the statement. Like yeah you're right. Can't teach it. Therefore its not music. Thanks hip-hop.

>You can't have it both ways.

Fucked if you do fucked if you don't.

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