>I'm not going to say that they are *exactly* the same thing,
>but then again... why should they be?

Miniature golf isn't exactly the same as real golf either... nor does it have to be. But I know damn well just because you can put doesn't mean you can golf. A lot of these dudes are learning only a small fraction of what the real game is supposed to be about.

>In any case, I don't think that we're talking about different
>things. You're suggesting that cats look for an image before
>they develop a sound and I'm saying it's not true. Seeing as
>the image is one of the most transient things, it's usually
>the last thing the artist really finds... A lot of acts go
>through loads of different images during their grinding period
>before they find the one that catches on.

Yeah we are talking about different things... honestly after reading that I don't know what else to say to you. You are staying focused on artists here and their process and I'm looking at this from the fan side. The only thing I can add to speak to what you're talking about is a lot of artists now are not fully formed because they don't have a system in place to nurture what real talent they may possess... but again thats an off shoot of what this post was about.
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