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Topic subjectI'll respond to this cause I respect you.
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2524777, I'll respond to this cause I respect you.
Posted by denny, Mon Mar-14-11 05:38 AM
but you're outta line and offsides.

>The sig in my quote is by a white man (duh) and he's simply
>(and cleverly) encapsulating the notion that America's unique
>notion of "hipness" is rooted in the cultural complexities
>resulting from the trans-atlantic slave trade. I think it is
>quite apt... however, if you want to start picking it apart in
>literal terms, be my guest. I just don't understand why any
>person of wit would do that.

That only makes that quote worse. It's patronizing. America's notion of 'hip' is alot more complicated than simply being of african origin.

>Finally... The reason I cal you willfully ignorant is because
>you have a habit of coming into posts to make some definitive
>pronouncements like "Michael Jackson is gay and Human Nature
>is evidence of that" and I'm thinking "wow... this kid must
>have done that super-heavy research or have some inside
>source," just to find out that all you have is your
>opinion--and not even one that is at least nominally supported
>by any objective evidence, or that is even reconcilable with
>known facts (eg the fact that MJ didn't write "Human Nature"
>and the straight man who did write it didn't write it with him
>in mind).

I never spoke of MJ being gay in direct relation to my understanding of 'human nature'. But MJ was gay. And so was Human Nature. That's how I said it.

>Or your hilariously ignorant arguments in the Fela/JB thread
>(which I've already alluded to) which did not so much upset me
>as they amused me. (Comparing Fela to Osadebe as an example of
>"NIgerian music before James Brown"? I'm like--what?)

If I remember correctly...I asked if that was a fair characterization. That Osadebe could stand as an example of Nigerian pop music before JB and Fela after JB's influence.

>I mean, right here in this discussion, you could have said "I
>don't think the Jacksons wrote these songs because _______"
>and it would have been cool... But instead, you come in saying
>"THEY DIDN'T WRITE THEM! Anybody who thinks otherwise,
>including those who have inside sources and have written
>extensively about such things? Those people are fools! My ears
>tell me that they didn't write them because they were not
>songwriters!"

Man...read my post. "Only speculating here but......" You're trying to paint me into something I'm obviously not. I don't search the internet for information....I don't have the facts. I've always indicated when I'm speculating.

>(Never mind that you admit you have no Jacksons compositions
>from the same period with which to compare the songs
>stylistically... but hey: you have EARS!)

Yah well hopefully we'll all learn the truth. You ask me? The J5 did not write those songs.