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Topic subjectThis doesn't annoy me at all.
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2517140, This doesn't annoy me at all.
Posted by AFKAP_of_Darkness, Sat Feb-26-11 09:33 AM
>All this D/L talk won't even matter anymore in a few years.
>Right now, there are dozens of website on which you can LEGALY
>stream every single album for free (Deezer, Spotify ...). So,
>are we entitled to get a taste of the music before we buy it ?
>Apparently yes. What's even more interesting is that you can
>suscribe to those website for like 15 $ / month and get an
>complete access to all of their catalog on your smartphone.
>Which means you can LEGALY listen to 90% of the music being
>released for FREE on your smartphone.

I've said already in this post that time marches on, and if the industry wants to survive then it has to find some way to adapt to that reality.

I've got no problem with that whatsoever.

>Why do you think music is different from other goods ? It
>actually isn't.

If you read my posts throughout this discussion, I have said that many times.

If you could dematerialize any other goods,
>they would also be subjected to the same treatment (look at
>movies, TV shows, and soon books). It's the job of of the
>industry to give the consumer a reason to buy the physical
>object or the mp3, and that too takes some creativity.

I know this too, and with the releases on my label I have tried to do this. I'm very much in tune with the reality that the music is essentially free so like 70% of the effort goes into devising some compelling packaging and other supplements that will hopefully make this artifact something worth paying for.



So back
>to my point, shitty food get bought because you don't have the
>means to taste it before you buy it. If you buy it one time
>and you don't like it you won't buy it a second time.

People eat McDonald's a million times and they still go back to pay for it. You'll probably say that maybe they actually LIKE McDonald's so it's not shitty to them, but the fact is that if they found a way to get McDonald's for free, they would suddenly say it sucks and they don't have to pay for it.

Clothes
>? You try them before you buy them. Of course you can't use
>that analogy with cars and other capital goods, but Im sure
>you got the point : it's the means that are different.

The problem here is that the whole "I sample the music to see if I like it or not and if it sucks then I don't buy" thing is a LIE. Because people still don't buy the music they DO like.

Let's just be real here: people don't wanna pay for music, period. That's a reality.

>As for the artist getting paid ? Don't they get paid before
>they actually released their album ?

Not always. Not these days.


>The music system is actually not that bad economically. I
>mean, you have a market where one is able to buy ONLY what he
>really wants/need/like with pretty much all the information
>needed (which means your money really goes where you want it
>to go). But at the end, it doesn't matter if this system is
>healthy or not. AraQual is right, it's a reality, more and
>more people are going to get a taste of your music before they
>buy it.

And again: that's not my problem.

My problem is with araQual acting like musicians are assholes for wanting to recoup the investment they put into creating the album that you downloaded for free and claim that you LIKE, and saying shit like "when are they gonna grow up?"

That really offends me.