>>I'm not confusing the issue, you are. The OP named
>Radiohead
>>as a band that hides poor musicianship behind good
>>songwriting. I responded saying they can play.
>>
>>Now you're looking for "excellent musicianship", lol. All I
>>said was they can play. That video more than showed that.
>>They weren't playing like Weather Report because they're a
>>rock band. They're not supposed to!
>>
>>Buddy, we're cool. I'm calm. Don't get upset over a little
>>snark. Let's hug it out. :)
>>
>
>Haha, ok then we're cool. But I'm still not confusing the
>issue on this one - the OP in question did say he was looking
>for "great" musicianship, and his exact words were none of
>them were *great* at what they do , he never once said they
>were poor musicians - that's on you! And to a certain degree,
>he has enough of a point. People react to Radiohead in such
>an extreme way, and I'm just trying to be objective to what I
>see - so I was reacting to that too. And for the record I
>like Radiohead a lot, I got respect for them for sure.

Fair enough! Although there's a special kind of musicality that it takes to arrange & perform the types of compositions Radiohead come up with. The most important aspect of musicianship is listening. A lot of "virtuosic" cats have a problem doing that. In that respect, they may have chops for days, but I consider them lesser musicians.


And also, I don't really see cats throwing that virtuoso label on Radiohead like that, save for Rolling Stone.


>>It tends to be the go to question for douchey musicians (not
>>calling you one) to try to flaunt their self perceived
>>superiority over other cats on this board, as if its the end
>>all/be all for being able to talk music.
>>
>>Yes, it's relevant but what a lot of musicians that harp on
>>chops & the like fail to understand is most artists aren't
>>making music for musicians. I mean, would you rather
>Paranoid
>>Android sounded like a Victor Wooten record? :/
>>
>>
>>
>
>I see. Yea, definitely did not mean it like that, and chops
>is definitely not at all what determines whether I like
>something or not. I mean, I love hip hop so what does that
>say?!

Hmmmm... Well hip hop's got its own definition of technical skill & "chops". The hip hop version of this argument has always been "Q-Tip is not a great MC" or something like that because he doesn't have a crazy tongue twisting vocal gymnastic style. I tend to defend him just like Radiohead in this case, as what he does suits the song PERFECTLY.



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