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2697935, as much as I like The Beatles, I gotta disagree...
Posted by disco dj, Sat May-12-12 07:30 AM
>i feel putoff when i feel an artist is making 'Black' music
>and is apeing the aesthetic but doesn't respect the social
>conditions or emotional space that made the original Black
>artist(s) make the music they made.
>

Ennh. there's a lot of TERRIBLE non-Black Bluesmen, but I do believe they "Get it". People who grew up in shit conditions and have the same world view as Black Bluesmen...they just suck at playing Blues.


>i guess i ought to and kinda would feel putoff if I heard a
>European Country artist. i would think, they have 'their' own
>circumstances of their life, how could it be that they could
>make authentic American Country music. but then again,
>Americans make well-crafted European Classical music and i
>wouldn't think, 'those musicians are bougie or wannabees.'

To be fair, I think 'Country' is just what we call it. But I think all corners of the world have regional ( read: Rural) music that would fit the same criteria and should be judged fairly. Now obviously it would *sound* like American Country Music, but the ethos would be the same...
>


>i also don't feel that acts like The Beatles or maybe The
>Rolling Stones or even modern day Rock acts who have musicians
>that are White are apeing Black music. in the case of The
>Beatles or The Rolling Stones, i think it's because they at
>least really respected the music of the people they were
>influenced by and also added a unique, authentic part of
>themselves in the music and in the case of the White Rock acts
>i feel they're just not really serious musicians or that they
>just have a different take on things.


Nah. The Beatles started off their careers playing a shitload of Covers of old Soul and RnB songs. But once they blew up? They never went back to it. That's kinda telling, don't you think?
As far as the Stones? I'm not really a huge stones fan, but they did it too, to some degree. Their biggest hit is probably "Satisfaction", and they took their name from Muddy Waters. Shit, they first place they went when they landed here was Chess Records.

I'm sure they liked the music and it obviously influenced them, but there (was) a little bit of thievery goin' on...