I didn't do a lot of speculating about the next whatever when the Dems were killed in Minnesota, so I'm not going to start speculating about any futher developments after this assassination.


https://www.yahoo.com/news/us/live/charlie-kirk-shot-dead-at-utah-campus-event-person-of-interest-is-in-custody--follow-live-updates-213655536.html


Yahoo News


Charlie Kirk shot dead at Utah campus event; person of interest is in custody — follow live updates


The Turning Point USA cofounder was speaking in front of a large crowd at Utah Valley University

Yahoo News Staff


Updated Wed, September 10, 2025 at 7:37 PM EDT


Charlie Kirk, a popular conservative commentator, was fatally shot while speaking to a large crowd at Utah Valley University in Orem, Utah, on Wednesday. He was 31.

"The Great, and even Legendary, Charlie Kirk, is dead," President Trump wrote in a post on Truth Social. "No one understood or had the Heart of the Youth in the United States of America better than Charlie. He was loved and admired by ALL, especially me, and now, he is no longer with us. Melania and my Sympathies go out to his beautiful wife Erika, and family. Charlie, we love you!"

A spokesperson for Turning Point USA, an organization that advocates for conservative politics on high school and university campuses, confirmed that Kirk died following the shooting. "Charlie went to his eternal reward with Jesus Christ in Heaven," the group, which Kirk cofounded, said in a statement.

Kirk, who was a prominent conservative activist and Trump ally, was speaking at a planned open-air rally at the school when a single shot rang out, striking him in the neck.

An unnamed person of interest is in custody, but authorities are not yet referring to them as a suspect, Utah Gov. Spencer Cox said Wednesday afternoon. A possible shooter dressed in dark clothing was captured on surveillance footage firing from a rooftop, according to Beau Mason, commissioner of the Utah Department of Public Safety. Authorities are trying to determine if the person of interest they have taken into custody is the same person spotted on the CCTV footage, he said.

The university had initially reported that a suspect was in custody shortly after the shooting, but that person was released after being booked for obstruction of justice, Mason said.

This is a developing story. Please refresh this page for updates.

The school announced that all classes (including virtual ones), on-campus events and administrative operations are being postponed.

"We appreciate your understanding and invite the campus community to demonstrate exceptional care towards one another at this time," four of the university's administrators wrote in a public notification.

Students will have the opportunity to make up any coursework or tests that they miss, they wrote.

The campus was closed immediately after the shooting. The school instructed anyone who was still present to shelter in place and call the police in order to be escorted to safety.

During a press conference Wednesday, law enforcement officials said that Charlie Kirk's "possible shooter" had been spotted on closed-circuit TV and had likely fired from a rooftop at long distance.

"The only information we have on the suspect — the possible shooter — is taken from closed-circuit TV here on campus," said Beau Mason, the commissioner of Utah's Department of Public Safety, adding that the low-quality security camera footage was currently being analyzed. "We do know (they were) dressed in all dark clothing, but we don't have a much better description, other than that."

Asked where the shot came from, Mason said, "Here on campus" before adding that it was "potentially ... a longer-distance shot from a roof."

Authorities are currently trying to "decipher" if the person of interest they've taken into custody is the same person spotted on the CCTV footage, Mason said.

Utah Gov. Spencer Cox: 'We have a person of interest in custody'
Utah Gov. Spencer Cox told reporters, "We have a person of interest in custody that is being interviewed right now," but noted that authorities are still looking for anyone else with information related to the shooting.


During a press conference Wednesday evening, Utah Gov. Spencer Cox referred to Kirk's death as a "political assassination."

"This is a dark day for our state. It's a tragic day for our nation. I want to be very clear that this is a political assassination," he said.

Cox continued, "Today, a life was taken. Charlie Kirk was first and foremost a husband and a dad to two young children. He was also very much politically involved, and that's why he was here on campus. Charlie believed in the power of free speech and debate to shape ideas and to persuade people. ... When someone takes the life of a person because of their ideas or their ideals, then that very constitutional foundation is threatened."

Turning Point USA, the organization that Kirk cofounded in 2012 when he was 18 years old, said in a post on X that "Kirk has been murdered by a gunshot."

“May he be received into the merciful arms of our loving Savior, who suffered and died for Charlie," Turning Point wrote in a social media post. "We ask that everyone keep his family and loved ones in your prayers."

Kirk was speaking on the campus of Utah Valley University as part of Turning Point’s American Comeback tour when he was fatally shot.


Sen. Mike Lee: 'This murder was a cowardly act of violence'
Utah members of Congress are reacting to the news of Kirk's death in statements posted to their X accounts.

Sen. Mike Lee sharply condemned what he called a "murder" as "a cowardly act of violence."

"The terrorists will not win," Lee wrote. "Charlie will."


Others, including Rep. Blake Moore and Rep. Celeste Maloy, said they were devastated by the loss.




Erika Kirk, Kirk's wife and the mother of his two children, is the founder of the BibleIn365 ministry and host of the Midweek Rise Up podcast.

Hours before the shooting, she posted this verse to X:


Texas Gov. Greg Abbott offered his condolences to Charlie Kirk's family on behalf of himself and the state's first lady. "Cecilia and I are heartbroken by the assassination and passing of Charlie Kirk," Abbott, a Republican, wrote. "This senseless act of violence has no place in America."


New York Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez said that there is "no place" in America for "gun violence and political violence."

Before Kirk's death was confirmed, the Democrat offered her condolences on X, writing, "The scourge of gun violence and political violence must end. The shooting of Charlie Kirk is the latest incident of this chaos and it must stop. We cannot go down this road. There is no place for it in America and we wish for his recovery."


Charlie Kirk speaks before he is shot during Turning Point's visit to Utah Valley University. (Tess Crowley/The Deseret News via AP)
Charlie Kirk was asked about U.S. mass shootings seconds before he was shot in the neck on Wednesday, videos circulating on social media show.

"Do you know how many mass shooters there have been in America in the last 10 years?" a person asked Kirk. "Counting or not counting gang violence?" Kirk replied moments before he was shot.

Charlie Kirk was one of the most powerful voices in conservative media. He cofounded Turning Point USA in 2012, the day after he graduated high school. The organization's mission is to promote conservative political ideals on America's college campuses. His campus activism frequently led him into heated debates against liberal students, which were often captured on camera and celebrated by conservatives online.

Kirk was an early backer of President Trump's 2016 presidential campaign, earning himself a speaking slot at the Republican National Convention that year at just 23 years old. Turning Point USA has continued to grow alongside the MAGA movement. The group says it's now represented at more than 3,500 colleges. Total revenue at Turning Point USA and Turning Point Action grew from $4.3 million in 2016 to $92.4 million in 2023.

At the time of his death, Kirk had more than 5 million followers on X and 3.8 million subscribers on YouTube.

Kirk claimed to have visited Trump at the White House "a hundred-plus" times during his first term and became part of a small group of loyal advisers when Trump returned to office earlier this year.

"No one understood or had the Heart of the Youth in the United States of America better than Charlie," Trump wrote on Truth Social on Wednesday.

Ben Shapiro says he's 'heartbroken and sick to my soul'
Conservative commentator and podcast host Ben Shapiro posted his reaction to the news of Kirk's death on X, writing that he was "utterly stunned and heartbroken and sick to my soul".

"I met Charlie Kirk when he was 18 years old, a young man so eager and determined that I immediately turned to a friend and said, 'That kid is going to be the head of the RNC one day,'" Shapiro wrote on X, adding, "Charlie became even bigger and more important than that."

Shapiro's statement went on to say that "We must pick up the baton where Charlie left it, fighting for the things he believed in so passionately. And we must fight for a better America — an America where good people can speak truth and debate passionately without fear of a bullet."

Shapiro had been a guest on Kirk's podcast, The Charlie Kirk Show, in an episode that dropped yesterday.

Former President Barack Obama shared his condolences on X. Obama condemned the "despicable act of violence" against Kirk, adding that it "has no place in our democracy."

"We don’t yet know what motivated the person who shot and killed Charlie Kirk, but this kind of despicable violence has no place in our democracy. Michelle and I will be praying for Charlie’s family tonight, especially his wife Erika and their two young children," Obama wrote.


Actress and conservative Candace Cameron Bure is sharing her sorrow over the death of Charlie Kirk. On Instagram, the Full House actress posted a photo of Kirk with the words, "We love you Charlie. Well done good and faithful servant." Bure captioned the post with three broken heart emojis.


Turning Point USA, the nonprofit Charlie Kirk started in 2012, sent out a letter to supporters and employees confirming its cofounder had died, according to a copy shared with CNN.

“It’s with a heavy heart that we, the Turning Point USA leadership team, write to notify you that early this afternoon, Charlie went to his eternal reward with Jesus Christ in Heaven," the note said.

Turning Point USA describes its mission as helping to "identify, educate, train, and organize students to promote the principles of fiscal responsibility, free markets, and limited government." The youth organization holds conservative events and meetups at high schools and colleges all over the U.S.

President Trump said in a post on Truth Social that he is ordering “all American Flags throughout the United States” to be flown at half-stafft until 6 p.m. on Sunday in honor of Charlie Kirk, whom he called “a truly Great American Patriot.”

In a previous post in which he broke the news of Kirk’s death, Trump expressed his sympathy for Kirk’s family and wrote that “No one understood or had the Heart of the Youth in the United States of America better than Charlie.”

Neia Balao
Today at 5:17 PM EDT
Neia Balao
Donald Trump Jr. says Kirk 'gave so many people the courage to speak up'

On X, Donald Trump Jr. reposted the announcement from his father, President Trump, that Kirk has died.

"I love you brother," Trump Jr. wrote. "You gave so many people the courage to speak up and we will not ever be silenced."


House Speaker Mike Johnson led members of Congress in a moment of prayer in honor of Charlie Kirk and his family on the House floor Wednesday afternoon.

Gov. Spencer Cox said he has spoken to President Trump and vowed to bring the shooter to justice.

The governor said he was "heartbroken" by news of Kirk's death and is praying for his family.

blaming Democrats and crazy leftist, but they don't have a shooter yet...

C.O.N spiracy...

>I didn't do a lot of speculating about the next whatever when
>the Dems were killed in Minnesota, so I'm not going to start
>speculating about any futher developments after this
>assassination.
>
>
>https://www.yahoo.com/news/us/live/charlie-kirk-shot-dead-at-utah-campus-event-person-of-interest-is-in-custody--follow-live-updates-213655536.html
>
>
>Yahoo News
>
>
>Charlie Kirk shot dead at Utah campus event; person of
>interest is in custody — follow live updates
>
>
>The Turning Point USA cofounder was speaking in front of a
>large crowd at Utah Valley University
>
>Yahoo News Staff
>
>
>Updated Wed, September 10, 2025 at 7:37 PM EDT
>
>
>Charlie Kirk, a popular conservative commentator, was fatally
>shot while speaking to a large crowd at Utah Valley University
>in Orem, Utah, on Wednesday. He was 31.
>
>"The Great, and even Legendary, Charlie Kirk, is dead,"
>President Trump wrote in a post on Truth Social. "No one
>understood or had the Heart of the Youth in the United States
>of America better than Charlie. He was loved and admired by
>ALL, especially me, and now, he is no longer with us. Melania
>and my Sympathies go out to his beautiful wife Erika, and
>family. Charlie, we love you!"
>
>A spokesperson for Turning Point USA, an organization that
>advocates for conservative politics on high school and
>university campuses, confirmed that Kirk died following the
>shooting. "Charlie went to his eternal reward with Jesus
>Christ in Heaven," the group, which Kirk cofounded, said in a
>statement.
>
>Kirk, who was a prominent conservative activist and Trump
>ally, was speaking at a planned open-air rally at the school
>when a single shot rang out, striking him in the neck.
>
>An unnamed person of interest is in custody, but authorities
>are not yet referring to them as a suspect, Utah Gov. Spencer
>Cox said Wednesday afternoon. A possible shooter dressed in
>dark clothing was captured on surveillance footage firing from
>a rooftop, according to Beau Mason, commissioner of the Utah
>Department of Public Safety. Authorities are trying to
>determine if the person of interest they have taken into
>custody is the same person spotted on the CCTV footage, he
>said.
>
>The university had initially reported that a suspect was in
>custody shortly after the shooting, but that person was
>released after being booked for obstruction of justice, Mason
>said.
>
>This is a developing story. Please refresh this page for
>updates.
>
>The school announced that all classes (including virtual
>ones), on-campus events and administrative operations are
>being postponed.
>
>"We appreciate your understanding and invite the campus
>community to demonstrate exceptional care towards one another
>at this time," four of the university's administrators wrote
>in a public notification.
>
>Students will have the opportunity to make up any coursework
>or tests that they miss, they wrote.
>
>The campus was closed immediately after the shooting. The
>school instructed anyone who was still present to shelter in
>place and call the police in order to be escorted to safety.
>
>During a press conference Wednesday, law enforcement officials
>said that Charlie Kirk's "possible shooter" had been spotted
>on closed-circuit TV and had likely fired from a rooftop at
>long distance.
>
>"The only information we have on the suspect — the possible
>shooter — is taken from closed-circuit TV here on campus,"
>said Beau Mason, the commissioner of Utah's Department of
>Public Safety, adding that the low-quality security camera
>footage was currently being analyzed. "We do know (they were)
>dressed in all dark clothing, but we don't have a much better
>description, other than that."
>
>Asked where the shot came from, Mason said, "Here on campus"
>before adding that it was "potentially ... a longer-distance
>shot from a roof."
>
>Authorities are currently trying to "decipher" if the person
>of interest they've taken into custody is the same person
>spotted on the CCTV footage, Mason said.
>
>Utah Gov. Spencer Cox: 'We have a person of interest in
>custody'
>Utah Gov. Spencer Cox told reporters, "We have a person of
>interest in custody that is being interviewed right now," but
>noted that authorities are still looking for anyone else with
>information related to the shooting.
>
>
>During a press conference Wednesday evening, Utah Gov. Spencer
>Cox referred to Kirk's death as a "political assassination."
>
>"This is a dark day for our state. It's a tragic day for our
>nation. I want to be very clear that this is a political
>assassination," he said.
>
>Cox continued, "Today, a life was taken. Charlie Kirk was
>first and foremost a husband and a dad to two young children.
>He was also very much politically involved, and that's why he
>was here on campus. Charlie believed in the power of free
>speech and debate to shape ideas and to persuade people. ...
>When someone takes the life of a person because of their ideas
>or their ideals, then that very constitutional foundation is
>threatened."
>
>Turning Point USA, the organization that Kirk cofounded in
>2012 when he was 18 years old, said in a post on X that "Kirk
>has been murdered by a gunshot."
>
>“May he be received into the merciful arms of our loving
>Savior, who suffered and died for Charlie," Turning Point
>wrote in a social media post. "We ask that everyone keep his
>family and loved ones in your prayers."
>
>Kirk was speaking on the campus of Utah Valley University as
>part of Turning Point’s American Comeback tour when he was
>fatally shot.
>
>
>Sen. Mike Lee: 'This murder was a cowardly act of violence'
>Utah members of Congress are reacting to the news of Kirk's
>death in statements posted to their X accounts.
>
>Sen. Mike Lee sharply condemned what he called a "murder" as
>"a cowardly act of violence."
>
>"The terrorists will not win," Lee wrote. "Charlie will."
>
>
>Others, including Rep. Blake Moore and Rep. Celeste Maloy,
>said they were devastated by the loss.
>
>
>
>
>Erika Kirk, Kirk's wife and the mother of his two children, is
>the founder of the BibleIn365 ministry and host of the Midweek
>Rise Up podcast.
>
>Hours before the shooting, she posted this verse to X:
>
>
>Texas Gov. Greg Abbott offered his condolences to Charlie
>Kirk's family on behalf of himself and the state's first lady.
>"Cecilia and I are heartbroken by the assassination and
>passing of Charlie Kirk," Abbott, a Republican, wrote. "This
>senseless act of violence has no place in America."
>
>
>New York Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez said that there is "no
>place" in America for "gun violence and political violence."
>
>Before Kirk's death was confirmed, the Democrat offered her
>condolences on X, writing, "The scourge of gun violence and
>political violence must end. The shooting of Charlie Kirk is
>the latest incident of this chaos and it must stop. We cannot
>go down this road. There is no place for it in America and we
>wish for his recovery."
>
>
>Charlie Kirk speaks before he is shot during Turning Point's
>visit to Utah Valley University. (Tess Crowley/The Deseret
>News via AP)
>Charlie Kirk was asked about U.S. mass shootings seconds
>before he was shot in the neck on Wednesday, videos
>circulating on social media show.
>
>"Do you know how many mass shooters there have been in America
>in the last 10 years?" a person asked Kirk. "Counting or not
>counting gang violence?" Kirk replied moments before he was
>shot.
>
>Charlie Kirk was one of the most powerful voices in
>conservative media. He cofounded Turning Point USA in 2012,
>the day after he graduated high school. The organization's
>mission is to promote conservative political ideals on
>America's college campuses. His campus activism frequently led
>him into heated debates against liberal students, which were
>often captured on camera and celebrated by conservatives
>online.
>
>Kirk was an early backer of President Trump's 2016
>presidential campaign, earning himself a speaking slot at the
>Republican National Convention that year at just 23 years old.
>Turning Point USA has continued to grow alongside the MAGA
>movement. The group says it's now represented at more than
>3,500 colleges. Total revenue at Turning Point USA and Turning
>Point Action grew from $4.3 million in 2016 to $92.4 million
>in 2023.
>
>At the time of his death, Kirk had more than 5 million
>followers on X and 3.8 million subscribers on YouTube.
>
>Kirk claimed to have visited Trump at the White House "a
>hundred-plus" times during his first term and became part of a
>small group of loyal advisers when Trump returned to office
>earlier this year.
>
>"No one understood or had the Heart of the Youth in the United
>States of America better than Charlie," Trump wrote on Truth
>Social on Wednesday.
>
>Ben Shapiro says he's 'heartbroken and sick to my soul'
>Conservative commentator and podcast host Ben Shapiro posted
>his reaction to the news of Kirk's death on X, writing that he
>was "utterly stunned and heartbroken and sick to my soul".
>
>"I met Charlie Kirk when he was 18 years old, a young man so
>eager and determined that I immediately turned to a friend and
>said, 'That kid is going to be the head of the RNC one day,'"
>Shapiro wrote on X, adding, "Charlie became even bigger and
>more important than that."
>
>Shapiro's statement went on to say that "We must pick up the
>baton where Charlie left it, fighting for the things he
>believed in so passionately. And we must fight for a better
>America — an America where good people can speak truth and
>debate passionately without fear of a bullet."
>
>Shapiro had been a guest on Kirk's podcast, The Charlie Kirk
>Show, in an episode that dropped yesterday.
>
>Former President Barack Obama shared his condolences on X.
>Obama condemned the "despicable act of violence" against Kirk,
>adding that it "has no place in our democracy."
>
>"We don’t yet know what motivated the person who shot and
>killed Charlie Kirk, but this kind of despicable violence has
>no place in our democracy. Michelle and I will be praying for
>Charlie’s family tonight, especially his wife Erika and
>their two young children," Obama wrote.
>
>
>Actress and conservative Candace Cameron Bure is sharing her
>sorrow over the death of Charlie Kirk. On Instagram, the Full
>House actress posted a photo of Kirk with the words, "We love
>you Charlie. Well done good and faithful servant." Bure
>captioned the post with three broken heart emojis.
>
>
>Turning Point USA, the nonprofit Charlie Kirk started in 2012,
>sent out a letter to supporters and employees confirming its
>cofounder had died, according to a copy shared with CNN.
>
>“It’s with a heavy heart that we, the Turning Point USA
>leadership team, write to notify you that early this
>afternoon, Charlie went to his eternal reward with Jesus
>Christ in Heaven," the note said.
>
>Turning Point USA describes its mission as helping to
>"identify, educate, train, and organize students to promote
>the principles of fiscal responsibility, free markets, and
>limited government." The youth organization holds conservative
>events and meetups at high schools and colleges all over the
>U.S.
>
>President Trump said in a post on Truth Social that he is
>ordering “all American Flags throughout the United States”
>to be flown at half-stafft until 6 p.m. on Sunday in honor of
>Charlie Kirk, whom he called “a truly Great American
>Patriot.”
>
>In a previous post in which he broke the news of Kirk’s
>death, Trump expressed his sympathy for Kirk’s family and
>wrote that “No one understood or had the Heart of the Youth
>in the United States of America better than Charlie.”
>
>Neia Balao
>Today at 5:17 PM EDT
>Neia Balao
>Donald Trump Jr. says Kirk 'gave so many people the courage to
>speak up'
>
>On X, Donald Trump Jr. reposted the announcement from his
>father, President Trump, that Kirk has died.
>
>"I love you brother," Trump Jr. wrote. "You gave so many
>people the courage to speak up and we will not ever be
>silenced."
>
>
>House Speaker Mike Johnson led members of Congress in a moment
>of prayer in honor of Charlie Kirk and his family on the House
>floor Wednesday afternoon.
>
>Gov. Spencer Cox said he has spoken to President Trump and
>vowed to bring the shooter to justice.
>
>The governor said he was "heartbroken" by news of Kirk's death
>and is praying for his family.

**********
"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

in another post, and it should be centralized there.

it's not like this is some complete offshoot post that's bringing something new to the discussion. it's a news swipe.

And open a new one, since it’s so long.

Not exactly a fan of the “just gonna leave this here” manner of the OP, but I think it makes sense to have a dedicated post because it’s only going to grow as information comes out.

If you accidentally click on freestyle he owns that one. PTP front page is mostly him. Now he's set his sites on GD

Also, I dont think we actually have active mods

Someone has to keep things popping.

I can't avoid him for the most part so when I get a chance to not discuss him, I am going to take it.

This feels like it disserves it's own discussion (which geting numbers already kinda proves).

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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

He was a blatant racist and had a horrific impact on any of the dumbasses that listened to him.

This nation is fucking insane.

Much deeper than they did w/ Minnesotan politicians being shot and murdered. And very much more than the 11yr old child they continued to state as ‘male’ that was shot to death in his back for playing dingdongditch in texass.

Despicable. An openly racist, hate mongering influencer, and they’re acting like it’s just a matter of “difference of opinion.”

I think it’s important for those with a voice to push back on the lies and gaslighting.

I hope they all continue to show their true colors.

Is another reason why I like this place. When this boards gets to banning words, I’ll jump ship for good.

not to be THAT guy, but.... felt like it could have been a stunt gone wrong? The fact it hit the vest but the ricochet is what killed him, and now they cant find the shooter.

Either way he was a terrible person but I feel bad for his mourning loved ones.

stuff regarding the hand signals from two dudes on his right that are kinda suspect. Could have nothing to do with the shooting.

i don't even wanna get into it.

Sounds like a Cohen brothers film.

https://www.cpr.org/2025/09/10/evergreen-high-school-shooting/

does anyone care about the kids or is this just the price they paid so we can continue to keep and bear arms?

school shootings have almost become normalized in this country. So wild, especially given how Agent Orange is posting AI generated imagery to demonize Chicago, yet do attention to given to school shootings that have gotten worse and worse in the last 5-10 years.

Have to feel sorry for the parents of those involved in yesterday's shootings to see this Charlie Kirk dude's news almost erase any coverage of yesterday's school shooting.

.

no idea who this guy is btw

from what i can tell the anti CK folks are upset over his Palestine takes

the pro CK folks seem to cite religion

yikes all around, lol

got a black coworker thats non-religious citing these ‘truths’ that come from CK

i may do digging for these truths i keep hearing about

Used to be a CO and is religious / won't take his kids to Brooklyn during the month of June in case they get turned gay, type of dude

At the same time stopping by my desk in ear shot of management "white people crazy"

Dude this morning talking about "that was my dude"

Which is very interesting given this guy's track record.

Felt the urge to get in the kitchen and mix it up but Irish Bar etiquette as they call it is the best at work (no religion, no politics)

and I didn’t see a lot of Palestine stuff with him.

It was mostly the DEI and shitting on Black folks qualifications that made me not give a fuck about him.

I do know a few years ago white dudes on sports boards and fb starting weaving the Black pilot/DEI bullshit out of nowhere. Now I realize these dudes were listening to CK and repeating his bullshit.

It would take me a while but eventually I'd always realize when someone was a big CK guy. They try to mimic his style but no one was nearly as good at being that brand of arrogant piece of shit.

he will ask a question and give you 2 options and both of them give him the advantage.

Finish your dinner or go to bed. Which would you rather do?

the question was about transgender mass shooters over the last 10 years.

Per usual, his disingenuous ass was devolving a reasonable question into his typical racist hatred. Poetic that the shot rang off right after he pulled his standard bullshit.

I accidentally saw a video of the assault from the Instagram stories from Freddie Gibbs' account of all things yesterday.

It was quite gory, so I don't suggest go out and search for it, but it was interesting the moment right before he got hit, he was talking about mass shootings in the US. Make of that what you will, folks.

>It was quite gory, so I don't suggest go out and search for
>it, but it was interesting the moment right before he got hit,
>he was talking about mass shootings in the US. Make of that
>what you will, folks.

... it all just seemed too coordinated, too convenient.

Either way, to be very clear he wasn't just talking about mass shootings. He was deflecting and gaslighting about being racist and anti-trans, as always.

is that it seems the shooter was a professional. From what I've heard, the suspect only took one shoot and hit what was seemingly the intending target without hitting anyone else.

One shot and seemingly resulted in instantly killing this Charlie Kirk dude. Would be wild if this person never gets caught.

n/m

this seems SUPER professional.

i feel like back in the day this kid doesn't make it 24 hours.

the delay made it look professional.

a military person with basic rifle training could do it.

The Feds say they got the rifle and and image from video of the suspect.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/11/charlie-kirk-shooting-police-search-for-suspect-amid-condemnation-of-targeted-killing

aka not far at all.

the old dude they originally showed as the suspect, who apparently confessed to the shooting and was yelling for the Police to kill him before being let go and another guy with a pellet gun in the crowd.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/11/msnbc-fires-matthew-dowd-charlie-kirk-shooting

Not that it matters because nobody watches MSNBC anymore...

They’ve been normalizing these lunatics for awhile now. Cannot trust or believe anything coming out anymore - it’s all right wing propaganda.

they don't like.

That’s all Republicans in office and their voters, respectively.

They’re rewriting history on Kirk right before our eyes.

Not even taking about his comments about what kind of person Kirk was

But the idea that maybe this was somebody shooting off is gun in celebration. like if Yosemite Sam was in the audience like "whoohoo you tell em Charlie!!... woops"

>https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/11/msnbc-fires-matthew-dowd-charlie-kirk-shooting
>
>Not that it matters because nobody watches MSNBC anymore...

Seems like it always comes to that.

there is a push to say transgender people are mentally deranged and should be disarmed.

This is a way to start disarming the population…

Just heard that trans rights and antifascist writing was inscribed onto the gun

>Just heard that trans rights and antifascist writing was inscribed onto the gun

https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/charlie-kirk-shot/card/photos-of-person-of-interest-in-kirk-shooting-released-by-fbi-wJ83p6Z7mEuF4Fle64D0

then again when I stopped at Kroger and I might have passed him walking on the river front by my house




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at that point they didn't even have a suspect. his face looks droopy today it looks like he had a stroke.

Crazy!

https://www.mediamatters.org/charlie-kirk/charlie-kirk-fantasizes-about-children-watching-televised-executions-certain-age-its

KIRK: It should be public. It should be quick. And it should be televised.

Like the price we have to pay for the second amendment?

https://x.com/slimjosa/status/1965891820308803996

He had so much to say about how black people are messed up because we are raised by single mothers, now his children have a single mother.

His last words were making a joke about black gang violence, and he it looks like he was killed by a white person.





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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

this was the point behind my previous response in this post.

this won’t end well.

When their is video of him running away without a gun?


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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

This sadly goes to show just how stupid way too many Americans are, because they’re eating it all up.

which is common for bullets made by Turkish bullet manufacturer Turan


(Even if this turns out to be the case, I fully expect them to somehow tie the shooter to Trans People, Turkey and Iran somehow)

Yeah right...

still not sure wtf a groyper is but it sounds like the far right is turning on each other.

.

I donno screams antifa to me brah

https://www.rawstory.com/charlie-kirk-killer-flight/

"Speculation on social media has pointed to a private jet that left the airport shortly after the single shot that killed the conservative activist rang out," the publication reported. "Flight tracking data shows the jet left the airport shortly after 2pm and headed south towards the Arizona border before it disappeared from radars."

Also to be noted, supposedly 48 hours before the assassination, Kirk was in convo with Ben Shapeeno and started saying maybe Israel is NOT to be believed about the Gaza narrative

Nosfera I mean Netanyahu was one of the first to publicly mourn Kirk in a statement that looked oddly synchronized to Trump's social medial

Claiming that Epstein had ties to Mossad to blackmail world leaders

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https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/live-blog/rcna230762

If they change the story up once in a while,it might sound more believable..

someone said House Dems should propose the Charlie Kirk Gun Control Act.

then you'd get to watch Republicans vote against it proving how deeply unserious they are about this issue.

https://youtu.be/B46km4V0CMY?si=9PtV0hsPgrqMso5X

https://x.com/drmistercody/status/1966547923090764161

This vile cunt.

The Governor of Utah, Spencer Cox, just said, "For the last 33 hours, I had been praying that this person (who murdered Charlie Kirk) was from another country. That he was not one of us because we are not like that. But it was one of us."
https://x.com/shannonrwatts/status/1966526377550606798

honestly this shit gets funnier with every new detail

of course it fuckin was moron

who killed Kirk for not being conservative ENOUGH.

also, before i even heard this, i saw a thread on twitter about most people not knowing that there's a bunch of Nick Fuentes people who always hated Kirk for not being conservative enough, and that it was only recently that Kirk moved MORE right wing so then those people saw him as a "fake conservative."

i'm sure more will come out so take this as you will, but i'm seeing a bunch of online confirmation of all this.

i didn't know there was conservative beef like that cuz i try to pay attention to those people.

Groyper are a group of Nick Fuentes fans and otherwise online trolls. It's real heavy-duty far right, Christo-facist, incel culture. They were very involved and well represented on Jan. 6 (as was Kirk's Turning Point USA). And it's sounding like the stuff that was written on the bullets (including the "If you can read this, you're gay" inscription, as mentioned below) is frequently used Groyper jargon/slang/meme bullshit.

As you alluded to, apparently Fuentes thought Kirk was a fake conservative. So these are ultra-ring wing shitheads eating each other.

Right wingers in that lane are anti Isreal less because of Palestinian suffering but because they blame all the world's ills on jews. Fuentes, Candace Owens, Tucker bringing on 'historians' who say Hitler was the good guy in WWII. Kirk being pro Isreal excluded him from their treehouse


>i didn't know there was conservative beef like that cuz i try
>to pay attention to those people.

Dems need to go hard. All Dems. Every one of them. Every one of them who quickly tweeted "both sides need to stop" etc etc. Walk that shit back ..even if its just a little.

I get that many of them still have to be civil- but correct that shit.


The right had folks convinced the shooter was going to be a transgendered Black illegal immigrant ANTIFA sleeper agent with pro-nouns on the casings and who's mind was radicalized by *checks notes* the same party currently led by Chuck fucking Schumer.

Nah. Clap back once this is 100% known.

>Dems need to go hard.

Why did I bust out laughing during the press conference?

I'm thinking, is the next bullet going to say Oliver Pantsoff? Or Is your refrigerator running?

What’s wrong with his eyes?

The kid was turned in by his dad. Why is he pretending the FBI solved anything?

Why did he say he would meet Kirk in Valhalla? Isn’t Kirk suppose to be Christian? And Patel is not Nordic. What the helly?

What the fuck is happening? I want off this timeline.

testosterone therapy. To say the least.

I read a tweet that said this dude's entire personality makes sense if you assume all he does is watch b-level action movies while doing blow.

Book about Trump


https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/71C3eqO8t9L._SL1250_.jpg


Dude just has perpetual crazy eyes

It doesn't stop getting crazier everyday...

https://bsky.app/profile/bornmiserable.bsky.social/post/3lyp2ydie4s2p

https://bsky.app/profile/matthew.flux.community/post/3lypeuxyvfc2v

Sounds very much like a sermon from There Will Be Blood...

and they quote a cousin twice removed and an 11 year old who knocked on his door asking about odd jobs.

They are determined to make this trans motivated.

So my conspiracy brain is thinking all this is fabricated for the purpose of targeting who the Nazi right wants to target.

I don't think they are gonna like where that takes them..

"Transmaxxing"

The word “transmaxxing” is a mash-up of “trans” (short for transgender) and “maxxing” (a slang term that suggests maximizing or optimizing some aspect of one’s life). The concept typically revolves around men—often from certain internet subcultures—who believe that transitioning to female will allow them to “maximize” their lives. Some proponents claim they are motivated by perceived benefits, such as escaping societal pressures placed on men, gaining more social acceptance, or taking advantage of what they believe are “privileges” of being a woman.

On the surface, it might sound like just another edgy internet phrase. But dig a bit deeper, and you’ll find that it often emerges in circles associated with the so-called “manosphere,” where incel culture (involuntary celibate) overlaps with anti-feminist sentiments. In many of these spaces, womanhood—and transgender womanhood in particular—is hypersexualized. For these communities, “transmaxxing” can be a fetishization of trans identity rather than a genuine journey of gender exploration. This approach strips away the profound lived experiences of trans women and instead commodifies our identities into a sort of quick-fix or life hack.

https://www.piratewires.com/p/transmaxxing

I feel like Frediculous was an OKP no?

https://x.com/MostlyPeacefull/status/1966638445717258549

I've seen a few of these. Conservatives are at the height of their power right now. Their leaders can make jokes about Nancy Pelosi being attacked in his home and they can get every day people fired for not giving a sh*t about Charlie Kirk.

They should enjoy it while it last.

The only thing I look forward to in the next year politically is the Dems regaining the House and going buck wild with their subpoena power and making Trump's last two years miserable.




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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

I thought doxxing would be if it wasn't there and they found out or they dug up his address (which maybe will/or did happen)

that said, its funny watching everyone talk about Charlie as a free speech champion who was killed for wanting open and free debate, then the same day running around the internet trying to cancel everyone who disagrees. People have already been fired. Companies have had to issue public apologies. Woke right in full effect

oldheadfred does sound like an okp name

posting their information like that. first thing i did when trump was reelected was lock down my socials. and posting freely on shitter also?

That account that buddy posted is running around tagging employers with screen grabs of their anti Kirk tweets and trying to get them in trouble.

Idk how much that particular account has accomplished but I have seen several "this doesn't reflect our values" apologies from various organizations

These people love cancel culture

I think his X profile mentioned he was a government lawyer (which probably wasn't smart). Somehow they linked his X profile to his LinkedIn profile. I think that's Doxx'ing.


And then they are suggesting people contact his employer.


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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/charlie-kirk-tributes-divide-opinion-at-nfl-games-as-five-teams-decline-to-take-part/ar-AA1Mxg1M?ocid=winp2fptaskbarhover&cvid=9cda45ea15e047978fc024d240020a84&ei=28

Charlie Kirk tributes divide opinion at NFL games as five teams decline to take part

Story by Jarrod Castillo
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There were teams around the NFL that chose not to honor Charlie Kirk after his assassination, a decision that was made after the league announced it was up to each team's discretion whether they wanted to honor the late pundit.

On the eve of the Sept. 11 terror attacks, Kirk was shot dead by a sniper, identified as Tyler Robinson, as the conservative pundit was speaking at an event at Utah Valley University. Tributes from around the sports world quickly flooded social media, with stars posting their condolences and prayers to Kirk's family.


Before the Green Bay Packers' Thursday night matchup against the Washington Commanders, a moment of silence was observed, with flags flown at half-staff. That said, the Arizona Cardinals stadium is set to host a memorial service for Kirk at State Farm Stadium in late September.


The Cincinnati Bengals and the Detroit Lions did not observe a moment of silence before their games against the Jacksonville Jaguars and Chicago Bears, respectively. The Baltimore Ravens, who played against the Cleveland Browns, also did not.

As the late afternoon games kicked off, the Indianapolis Colts became the fourth team that did not honor Kirk as they hosted the Denver Broncos - before the Minnesota Vikings followed suit ahead of their Sunday Night Football game with the Atlanta Falcons.
Carolina Panthers v Arizona Cardinals © Getty

On the other hand, the Tennessee Titans held a moment for Kirk, with a photo of him with his family being shown on the Jumbotron. Before the Dolphins faced off against the New England Patriots, Miami took a moment to remember Kirk and the victims of 9/11.

In the San Francisco 49ers' matchup against the Saints, New Orleans observed a moment of silence for Kirk and all affected by gun violence. The New York Jets also flashed numerous photos of Kirk on the videoboard before its matchup against the Buffalo Bills.


The Kansas City Chiefs held a moment of silence before the national anthem, though no specific reason was given as to why there was an observance. In Pittsburgh, the Steelers held a moment of silence for former star Craig Wolfley, who died in the offseason, while flags were flown at half-staff.

Lastly, the Dallas Cowboys also observed a moment before their game against the New York Giants by showing a photo of the late pundit on the Jumbotron. Of note, while fans observed the moment, there were scattered cheers in the stadium.

In a statement released Friday, the NFL reiterated that each franchise was responsible for determining whether and how to honor Kirk. "Last night's moment was the league's decision. It's up to the clubs for this Sunday's games," the statement began.

Yep this is awful. The whitewashing continues.

“he died for his beliefs and for our first amendment rights” type of replies on social media is staggering.

It makes me think they’re mostly bots, with a bunch of uncurious simple minded mouth breathers following the bot lead.

Zero mention of what his “beliefs” actually were, and zero mention that a lunatic right winger actually killed him.

and it's easy to lead those idiots when they don't question anything

and believe what they are spoon fed.

>a bunch of uncurious simple minded mouth breathers following
>the bot lead.

Christians voting for the guy who said

Trump: "I moved on her actually. You know she was down on Palm Beach. I moved on her, and I failed. I'll admit it. I did try and fuck her, she was married."

Unknown: "That's huge news there."

Trump: "No, no, Nancy. No this was and I moved on her very heavily in fact I took her out furniture shopping. She wanted to get some furniture. I said I'll show you where they have some nice furniture. I moved on her like a bitch. I couldn't get there and she was married. Then all-of-a-sudden I see her, she's now got the big phony tits and everything. She's totally changed her look."

let them have that shit

you cant can you

Seems like there is far less pushback this time, and clearly the Trump admin. is far worse than it was the first time around.

Makes me wonder what’s causing it. Is it fear?

Couple quick examples: Snoop was shitting on Trump back in 2016/17, now he performed for him a few months back.

Mookie Betts skipped out on going to the White House in 2019, he went this year though.

I don’t hear much music saying much about this shit, even from artists I know don’t fuck with Trump at all.

It will be interesting to see what happens with the NBA champions in the coming years. Will the Thunder go? Will they even be invited? NBA definitely has been far more outspoken against Trump/racism/etc. than other sports, in the past.

I’m bringing this up because regular people are being fired for merely saying that Kirk doesn’t deserve to be honored. The right is clearly trying to indimidate regular people into shutting up. Would be nice if those that are rich and don’t have to worry about losing their jobs, and have a bigger platform and voice would speak up IMO.

shit was so abnormal and new, people thought Mueller would bring him down, or he'd get impeached and removed, or he'd die of covid, or that there were still some adults in the room that could talk him down from his worst instincts... now its just a matter of how bad it gets till he drops dead.

Im not sure if its worth much for celebrities to go on about Trump all the time. At this point it influences nothing

Im a nobody but I remember first term id drop Trump fb posts.. not alot but maybe something every 3 or 4 weeks, id get likes from everyone who agreed and occasionally get in pointless back n forths with old friends who didn't. Looking back it all feels like time wasted

I haven't posted Trump shit in years, outside of here or occasionally on X where I have maybe 6 followers who arent bots. I have friends who drop 10 posts a day about Trump on fb, ig...alot of it is shared tiktok videos. I dont see the point. Its like a hobby to them. They just seem unwell.

All that said i do hear your point that it seems like many are selling out or laying down

there are 5011 photos of this dude holding all types of guns.. even a rocket launcher.

The lies they tell themselves is ridiculous

FOX News Brian Kilmeade says homeless should be Euthanized, still has job
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Cd25QMtLyFg

Megyn Kelly blames Obama for being divisive
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8nExLAyA2Y&t=102s

and the the last full-time Black opinion writer at the Washington Post gets fired because she quoted the racist troll.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/washington-post-fired-charlie-kirk-karen-attiah-b2826734.html

why waste the energy on it

they know, and dont give a fuck

i literally told him this:

"these people are the biggest fucking hypocrites it is what it is they ain't even gonna acknowlegde it fuck them. they are the "whats good for thee, is not good for me" crowd. it's all "fuck this and fuck that" until it happens to them or one of their "tribe""


like you said, they KNOW and they don't care. don't waste your time and energy. they don't operate from a place of honesty and reality.

as in that is a waste of time. Not sure but the topic is CL so of course we will be in here talking shit

IRL.. def a waste of time.

bunch of liars and idiots who think we are the idiots for wanting healthcare for all and a livable wage

https://youtu.be/l1OGMDub8H0

https://youtu.be/rcXDvOW0diw

https://youtu.be/JA0XvLvXNd4

regarding the rifle and his clothing in different footage

he walks with the rifle in the pant leg, assembled,

he climbs to the rooftop with the rifle in his pack, unassembled

he runs across rooftop and jumps down after the shooting, rifle disassembled?

the rifle is found in the woods, assembled

the clothing is inconsistent in various footage supposedly

It may be that they scrambled to make the narrative but then got screwed when it didn't fit together, vs. purposefully presented misinformation as fact, but interesting points

Also the older fella that they apprehended seems to have been in too many important places at once. Why did he draw attention to himself and why was he present when the shooting occurred?

The conflict between the Kirk and the pro-Israel lobby and Netanyahu himself apparently is worth noting. Some of the earliest backers of TPUSA represented the pro-Israel lobby. His recent about-face to accommodate his viewership may have made him a liability.

The trans roommate thing. If you look at actual footage of the kid (who may or may not be his roommate since they say the shooter was living at home) he seems like a cis presenting kid who wore a lot of weird animal hats, but not a transitioning person.

That said Imma watch the vids you posted

Questions whether there was a second shooter standing close in the audience to the right of Kirk. Which makes sense with the exit wound being on the left of his neck.

All what you wrote was mentioned in these videos.

the texts between the shooter and the roommate are fabricated

It would be some masterful shit to have Kirk assassinated for turning on his masters and then blaming it on the left with the help of an FBI and DOJ headed by corrupt actors

i thought he confessed in a note that was under his keyboard?!?

Is this trans/furry/partner/roommate/lover/girlfriend ever going to speak publicly?

this person doesn’t have a school photo?

the way they manipulate folks is wild.

and those text messages sound like Downton Abby.

“Oh my love, I must retrieve my vehicle yet still”

wtf

Not that we need AI to tell us what we can see with our own eyes, but you know, just in case.

The amount of factual boxes they checked in such a short time with their convo, aside from the manner everything was discussed, is just impossible for an authentic interaction

https://youtu.be/JbOsU-3jiXY

https://youtu.be/ZFvXQCQKnH4

https://youtu.be/onElfDyeoks

https://youtube.com/shorts/RwoB9BU4q2c

https://youtube.com/shorts/hOT5NFo6SO4

The idea that we are going to react to mass shootings differently based on the ideology of the shooter feels like a brand-new phenomenon.

Like, would we be this divided if the Oklahoma City Bombing happened today?




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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

So he can call Marshall law and not have the next major election. Or just round up Democrats and lefties...

We appear to be in JFK level conspiracy at this point. I think he was that important to "their" network. I think I'll mostly move on from all this based on that assessment.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/17/business/media/abc-jimmy-kimmel.html

Did they forget that Robinson said this in his text: "since trump got into office (my dad) has been pretty diehard maga."

I don't see any reason for optimism here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qc1PsYs-j14

Next court hearing will not be in person. Will be by webX.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gW0YM8uI7kg

Public executions was Charlie’s thing. Let me honor him.

I will say, I hate gore, hate guns, hate violence. I shivered when I saw the video. But considering it happened to *him*, I also can't stop thinking about it and how perfect and poetic it was/is. Hate can certainly change a person I guess, in certain instances.

Where’s the link?

Saw it within minutes of his being killed, and it's since been scrubbed. My guess is it's on the dark net.

now all I find are videos talking about how it was so widely available on social media.... ok... WHERE?

I’m going to ask a high schooler, they find EVERYTHING online.

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x9qbyzy

I saw an even better one from his left side where you can really see the life leave his nazi ass.

https://media1.tenor.com/m/7EsBSqS5lt4AAAAd/i-would-like-to-see-it-monique.gif

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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

And part of that is diminishing MLK. Can't let them do that.


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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

national day of rememberance.

i feel like i'm already living in a dystopian hellscape.

Kirk day.


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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

Haven’t seen or heard anything about that. We’ve seen Trump get mostly booed at sporting events over the years - can’t imagine you’d get an entire crowd of 75,000 at a football game to respect a moment of silent for this scumbag.

I’d be yelling, fake coughing, doing the Doug Heffernan hand fart, etc.

... that they didn't do a moment of silence. My buddy and I were talking about how we'd have def sat down and booed had they done it. Kraft lucked out that the Pats were away last week when everyone was doing them. So he was able to dodge criticism, as I'm sure he would've ultimately done a moment of silence for him had the Pats been home last week.

Including leadership. Including Mr bootleg Obama himself Hakeem Jeffries, who won't endorse the guy who won the primary for NYC mayor. The guy who won his own district like 2 to 1. Blue no matter who am I right?

Gee wiz, I wonder why some people feel like there isn't a major difference between dems and the GOP?

There is literally no opposition party. At this point, that is just an objective fact. There is no plan. No fight. No message. No leadership. Just...nothing.

Now the question is why?

Are they really this out of touch and incompetent? Compromised by domestic and/or foreign blackmail? Bought and sold? There is no way this is an actual strategy.


It boggles the mind.


They stand for absolutely nothing. It has been discouraging/depressing/infuriating but at this point I legit have 2nd hand embarrassment for them sometimes.


What does the democratic party stand for? (other than institutions- the same institutions that have allowed/embraced Trumpism by the way)


I mean, being only "not Trump" lost them 2 out of the last 3 national elections, so the message they took from what was to just drop the "not Trump" part and go along?


They stand for nothing. No one knows what they want to accomplish. I'm at the point where I don't believe a group of people can be this horrible at their jobs. There has to be another reason. Blackmail must be wide spread.

Put some respect on Beto's O'Roarke's name

He said denigrated every black american that passed tragically.

He said empathy does not exist.

He said black americans were better off enslaved.

He advocated stripping rights from black americans.

His fans now target black americans for violence.

Why should anyone from my specific lineage show empathy for this man?

Where are the democrats condemning his anti-black rhetoric?

I want to share with someone who was asking exactly what did CK say that's so offensive.

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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

these folks know he said fucked up shit but since they agree with it they don’t see it as offensive.

All they do is say its being taken out of context because its not full clips


https://www.instagram.com/reel/DOmAXeQkbW_/?igsh=MWs2ejIzZ2hnNjFjdA==

It's an older cat who I wanted to make it easier for them to hear first hand.


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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

anybody find the surgeon's report reminiscent of the BS they put out after the Trump shooting?

There were a good amount of right-leaning weapons content creators that debunked the Trump ear wound, now looks like they are calling bullshit on the FBI narrative on CK

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onElfDyeoks

https://youtu.be/MbaQadkqkzI

lines up with this sound map to locate shot origin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gNPJADBUUI&t=673s

if god gave him a special neck that could stop bullets, wouldn't he still be alive?

trump's magic ear didn't stop the bullet from killing some other poor shnook

I went through it twice, but didn't catch him saying that they were separate theories.

Apart from the back being covered- though I can accept that technology would negate that- the angle from the bush appears very different from the angle he shows in the beginning.

The first portion shows a downward trajectory from the right- which is a fitting, though unintentional pun- whereas the bush isn't far enough to the right to account for that trajectory. It's nearly directly behind him, but the first portion suggests they would be much further right than that. Not quite Groyper right, but further out from the bush.

Frankly, this would be a fun way to fuck with MAGA.

"The "Bush" was once further right, but is now the center, and CK was taken out by something much, much further to the right. CUE GROYPERS. The shooter is a known Groyper, which is a group much further right than CK, who felt that CK wasn't right enough......"

I could do a video about that in a pair of sun glasses and a red hat and be viral by Saturday.

Jokes aside, based on what I can glean from this video, if either is true, the other cannot be.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IULzG9bD7SM

Basically, who knows who killed CK. But the current narrative (as with the Anti-ICE slogan written on the bullets at the Dallas ICE facility shooting today), is just more outlandish with every detail investigated just a little bit further

The sound report, the testimony of the kid right after it happened that drew his attention up and to the left, the blood spray on the side of head along with what looks like an exit wound in the neck

accompanied by the surgeon having to claim the bone was ultra-strong Jesus-fortified calcium

accompanied by the laughable framing of the patsy

accompanied by the impossible narrative of rifle disassembly and make and later claim it was antique and untraceable

It's just funny that now I'm getting full blown black rifle coffee ex navy seal content creators in my feed and I'm not opposed (until they start talking about how Soros had a funding party that Tyler Robinson attended the night before or some other wacko shit)

Put over a picture of him lifting his arm up.

Predictably, the comments were filled with simple minded right wingers losing their shit in anger, on some “he NEVER said that!!”

This might be the way to go. Attribute kind, loving, inclusive made up quotes to him, so his fans can freak out about how he never said that.

and no sleep was lost.

and was driving around with 4 people the evening of the shooting, but he is somehow still a lone shooter… How does that work?

Wish he could've been murdered in public twice. Or more.

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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

>Wish he could've been murdered in public twice. Or more.

https://youtube.com/shorts/ZPhTzERHrVo

Anyone see the original?

This explanation makes sense since people kept wondering why his shirt moved the way it did and the neck looked like an exit wound.

and he handed it to someone else and dipped

which was weird.

Also, Charlie’s right hand man was sprint walking away tight after it happened.

which was weird.

but the weirdest thing was hearing how this happened right in front of Erika when she was’t even at the scene. Why lie about that shit?

of the guy that asked Kirk the trans gun violence question practicing being shocked before the event began.

That did seem a little convenient lol.

I just did a quick search for Hunter Kozak practicing…

https://youtube.com/shorts/2Pu7r4P-aKk