hope its okay to start a new one since the old one was at almost 600

https://news.yahoo.com/news/maga-civil-war-erupts-laura-122438156.html


Loomer was on the plane with Trump on the way to the debate and all up on his ear telling him to push the crazy shit and ignore his advisors. So now you have these broads beefing over who can be the raciest racist.

Clearly MTG is pissed and has been pushed to the left by an even worse extremist so now she wants to defend Kamala from racist tweets.

These fools gone!!!

All that campaign money, and they apparently couldn't be bothered to hire graphic designers.

Obama's logo & graphics are iconic.

its like when a team is way under .500 and there's no chance at winning a chip this year

You turn inwardly

Laura Loomey got her seat

imagine taking your advice from this:

https://x.com/fishontherun2/status/1833665865684021362?t=wnmN1P9R_2A9yM_LY2Ox3g&s=19

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-says-no-third-debate-193521433.html

He’s like that Charlie Zelenoff troll who would go around challenging boxers to fights, get his ass whupped while trying to cheat, and then would claim he won.

I need access to this world where nothing that I directly fuck up is anything close to my fault.

https://x.com/GermanyDiplo/status/1833808396618764327

Like it or not: Germany’s energy system is fully operational, with more than 50% renewables. And we are shutting down – not building – coal & nuclear plants. Coal will be off the grid by 2038 at the latest. PS: We also don’t eat cats and dogs. #Debate2024

in canton. by an american. not an immigrant.

https://youtu.be/yDDMGC4NzNY?si=RVenWxEdHUWdH7ev

it's probably what he 'saw on tv"

but yeah, not in Springfield and by an American citizen

not surprising that the Tom Hanks eats babies crowd is still sharing this video as proof trump was right

but we all know pets are off limits and this video will be all the proof they need.

.

.

He's going full student body president campaign.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-says-he-will-end-all-taxes-overtime-2024-09-12/

Sept 12 (Reuters) - Republican U.S. presidential candidate Donald Trump said on Thursday that he will end all taxes on overtime pay as part of a wider tax cut package, if he is elected in the Nov. 5 election.
"As part of our additional tax cuts, we will end all taxes on overtime," Trump said in remarks at a rally in Tucson, Arizona. "Your overtime hours will be tax-free."
Trump, who faces Democratic Vice President Kamala Harris in what polls show to be a tight race, has previously said he would seek legislation to end the taxation of tips to aid service workers. Harris has made a similar pledge.

>He's going full student body president campaign.
>

some last ditch bs they've come up with to sway votes. he's gonna end costing us more money like he did before.

but this county... smh....

did their parents make them wear Trump shirts while Biden is visiting?

https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/1feziur/biden_poses_with_kids_wearing_trump_tshirts_in/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4gdgw0v3dxo

and will say or do anything for a vote.

no one, and I mean no one is going to change the mind of anyone who wears campaign merch. once you get into the merch its over.

https://x.com/Phil_Lewis_/status/1835311953767546887

He really posted that on Truth Social.

20 years ago Howard Dean was turned into a joke because he yelled in excitement.

I say this often: I cannot believe any of this is even real.

>He really posted that on Truth Social.
>
>20 years ago Howard Dean was turned into a joke because he
>yelled in excitement.
>
>I say this often: I cannot believe any of this is even real.

I can’t believe it’s a close race. And that they originally had an AI Swift endorsing him. And Vance recently telling CNN he’s making up stories to get their racist message out.

Again

I was told they were responsible for all of the bad things in the country.

this MIGHT not have even been an attempt.

...the guy with. So far it's owning a machine gun as a convicted felon and filing off a serial number to a weapon. But because it's Florida, you can take a gun wherever the hell you want. So I imagine unless he confesses, they'll have difficulty with charging him for an assassination attempt.

i'm not saying that wasn't his goal. it could have been.

but, from all the reporting, he also seems like the kinda guy who would go stand outside of Mar A Lago with a gun and hand out conspiracy theory flyers...and he coulda been doing exactly that. LOL.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/trump-is-safe-after-gunshots-were-reported-in-his-vicinity-in-florida-campaign-says

"U.S. Secret Service agents posted a few holes up from where Trump was playing noticed the muzzle of an AK-style rifle sticking through the shrubbery that lines the course, roughly 400 yards away."

Does that count as pointing a gun at someone? Can you be charged with pointing a gun "at" a golf course?

If someone is in the direction it's aggravated assault, but if not isn't that just the 'freedom' the supreme made up when they changed the clear meaning of the second amendment?

Right now outside your house in Florida someone can legal have an AK and be sitting in a bush and I guess the muzzle has to be pointed SOMEWHERE, doesn't it?

Imagine not letting folks roam the streets with guns at all times and this would be a little clearer.

"Ryan Wesley Routh faces charges of possessing a firearm despite being a convicted felon and possessing a firearm with an obliterated serial number."

These charges don't depend on intent, so this guy's going be COOKED even if he was just pointing at the ground and didn't have bad intent.


Also I didn't see this detail before:
"An FBI affidavit accompanying a criminal complaint shows how law enforcement officials, during their investigation, used his cellphone information to place him at the golf course from 1:59 a.m. Sunday until about 1:31 p.m. A digital camera, a loaded rifle with scope and a plastic bag containing food was recovered from the area where Routh had positioned himself, according to the affidavit."

I'd go with BAD INTENT - but it might be hard to prove with what *WE* know right now.

so unless this dude just camps out there all the time hoping Trump shows up one day it seems unlikely this was a planned hit

Secret Service says dude had no line of sight/fire on Trump and didn't take a shot, and there's no way he could have known Trump would even be there (outside of someone with knowledge of Trump's movements telling him and that seems HIGHLY unlikely).

like i said, this guy, who is definitely weird, coulda just been down in that area doing weirdo shit.

clearly this is Trumps attempt to move on from Springfield and Laura Loomer

and it worked

>so unless this dude just camps out there all the time hoping
>Trump shows up one day it seems unlikely this was a planned
>hit

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/09/16/trump-golf-assassination-secret-service-00179422

So while not entirely reliable it's predictable that if you want to find Trump on a sunny day there's a better chance of seeing him there than at another random place.

And since it's a public course the PUBLIC can see the course from the street - it's not an easy place to guard.

So he's doing something predictable that makes it very hard to protect him and doing it often. JD Vance might cynically refer to this as a 'soft target.'

No one should be shooting at politicians, but politicians also need to listen to their security detail - which I'm SURE have told him it's not a good idea.

Going to the same place over and over without a schedule (so the police can fortify the place) isn't looking like the best idea.

>No one should be shooting at politicians, but politicians also
>need to listen to their security detail - which I'm SURE have
>told him it's not a good idea.
>
>Going to the same place over and over without a schedule (so
>the police can fortify the place) isn't looking like the best
>idea.
>

https://x.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1835482958649540717

Reminder that yam tits is not even American. He’s dangerous and has way too much power though. Lotta money that could do a lot of good for America too, if he actually cared about that. These MAGAts are too fucking stupid to see that though.

>https://x.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1835482958649540717
>
>Reminder that yam tits is not even American. He’s
>dangerous and has way too much power though. Lotta money
>that could do a lot of good for America too, if he actually
>cared about that. These MAGAts are too fucking stupid to see
>that though.

They should ban X . This is simply illegal it would seem.

Him and Trump’s stupid asses being rich shows how rigged capitalism is. These dickheads aren’t even smart or good at anything! They’re also fat, ugly, and weird. Literally nothing going for them on their own merits.

Trump and Vance said fuck it, lets just hype up the bigots and hoped its enough to win

She's Black, Indian & A Woman

I saw a post from some right wing nutjob who made a comment about her making Curried Collard greens, which actually sounds delicious

and Marjore Greene said it was the most racist thing she had ever read and in my greedy Black ass mind I’m like.. “mmmh, curry chicken… oh wait, das racists!”

Right?!

Governor of my home state.

Seems like a pretty ostentatious thing to say.

Perhaps I'm triggered because I've never been a parent.

Still undecided though. The outlandish things that the right says doesn't get me to side with 'the lesser of two evils.'

A nigga just get confused © Young Buck

anyways, she's terrible.

which is silly enough on its own, then judge someone else's life choices in the same sentence

ozempic bug eyed cretin

But you stay confused, it's your right as an American!

This week it's YOU CAN'T DO SHIT UNLESS YOU HAVE KIDS.

Last week this was her headline:
Arkansas’ gov says Medicaid extension for new moms isn’t needed. Advisers disagree

https://www.npr.org/sections/shots-health-news/2024/09/13/nx-s1-5110236/arkansas-medicaid-postpartum-12-months-sarah-huckabee-sanders

LOL

She's as dumb as the goobers who voted for her. Only my home state of Louisiana is worse -well maybe Mississippi.

Headline:
Sarah Huckabee Sanders jabs Harris for not having biological children
https://www.politico.com/video/2024/09/19/sarah-huckabee-sanders-jabs-harris-for-not-having-biological-children-1440073

“My kids keep me humble. Unfortunately, Kamala Harris doesn’t have anything keeping her humble,” Sanders said at an event with Donald Trump in Flint, Mich.


She's saying in pretty stark terms: Your ONLY VALUE is to be a baby factory, and if you haven't shit out any then you are less good than those that have.

Couple this with JD Vance's shit, and Leon Musk's and it's not a whisper - they are screaming it.


She's an UGLY, stupid, and deplorable nepo-baby.

But good on her for losing some weight!!!!

You should understand that some are conspiratorial and questioning of the U.S. and perhaps rightfully so.

It biased to not see it that way.

Keep fighting the good fight though

non-partisan which can be ipso facto seen as hubris.

To be concise, I’m concerned with the perception of Black men by the government. Not saying Black women or other groups of people are unimportant, I just feel like they have stronger bases and there may be a need for more radical change.

Plenty of people are undecided because they may feel as if their needs aren’t being met. I believe that I need to consume more information before fully committing but as of now I don’t feel as if I’m being courted by either party and I am uncertain about supporting a system that may not be fixed in the way that many of the larger portions of society may find sufficient.

I’m working on me.

Do you listen to UrbanView?

Ionno, just seems like a weird time to demand more for your vote given the options

Dont get me wrong, we should ALWAYS want more but I’ve heard Black men saying this and I just wonder if its because its Kamala.

I was undecided in the last 2 elections so it can’t be just because it’s Kamala

And as you know not voting Kamala ≠ supporting Trump

Seriously asking about Urban View though. I listen. They’re pretty much the only reason I have Sirius but they’re HARDCORE liberals

local elections you can go hard but it gets you into trouble once you are on the big stage.

like wanting Kamala to speak on reparations or go hard for Palestine.

Gotta win first and you can’t win telling America you are going to give Black folk a shit ton of money or start choking funds for Israel.

On a side note, I should’ve wrote ‘A nigga just get conFUSED’ with the emphasis cause that’s how it was said

But I didn’t wanna redo it and get that icky red edit message on my clean post

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/kodak-black-reacts-donald-trump-153549305.html

continues to be dumb.

https://www.tiktok.com/@meganwolf15/video/7414908552919272735?embed_source=121374463%2C121451205%2C121439635%2C121433650%2C121404359%2C121351166%2C72778571%2C121331973%2C120811592%2C120810756%3Bnull%3Bembed_share&refer=embed&referer_url=iframely.publishing.yahoo.net%2FjJ0Uk4e%3Fapp%3D1%26v%3D1&referer_video_id=7414908552919272735

cause why the fuck they going out of their way to say this shit?

or will need them.

some just think they're being edgy.

and some are getting paid.

His 15 minutes are long gone, and a scrub act like that will never get the long term tour money. I guess he’s gotta eat. I find it hard to believe that there’s anybody who would value that idiot’s opinion about anything though, so not sure it’s money well spent?

And the blockage of certain inalienable rightswill be taken away, blocked via maga and p2025 that’s a true trickle down theory. They think it’s all about Trump and his gangster etc.


>cause why the fuck they going out of their way to say this
>shit?
>
>

MAGA d*ckrider

Well, that train is never late.

He also said this at a rally/speech about anit-semitism. An event with a lot of Jews Behaving Badly cheering him on.

The fact that Stephen Miller and Laura Loomer are both MOT is so infuriating.

Nearly everyone there is presumably Ashkenazi.

From what I can tell, they’d prefer Trump over Harris; however, I don’t feel comfortable calling them Trump supporters. Some may be

I wanna know if these comments shift their perspectives.

I’m thinking it won’t but I still wonder.

Also, I wanna know how they feel about the pagers and walkie talkies blowing up.

There are worlds within worlds amongst other worlds.

I’m csuave03

Act like you know

You disagree. You can leave it at that

If your views make you feel superior, have at it

I’m just sharing my experiences

Because most polling show Jews saying they’re voting for Harris; like anywhere from 68% to high 77%.

Trump also said that Israel will lose the war if Harris wins

Could that be perceived as fear mongering?

>Trump also said that Israel will lose the war if Harris wins
>
>Could that be perceived as fear mongering?

He says Isreal will cease to exist. Of course it's fear mongering just like everyone crossing the border will rape your daughters, and hatians are eating the pets.

Trump only speaks in extremes. everything is the best or worst in history of our country. Is this man new to you or something?

Truthfully there isn't *that* much daylight between Isreal policy with these two administrations other than how they talk about it.

Perhaps a bad rhetorical question and for that, my bad

I meant to note it’s distinction from what I feel to be extremes coming from the left

‘This is the most important election of our lives’

‘Not voting for our candidate can lead to the fall of democracy’

Etcetera

I do find Trump’s statements more inflammatory.

Be easy.

I’ve been an election detractor for a few years.

Don’t blame me, I too am an American.

and he is once again saying if he loses its because its rigged.

not sure how you can act like the left is being extreme.

dude said he would be a dictator on day one.

and thats not even left vs right

once you compare right wing extreme vs left wing extreme, its not even close

I don’t think a Trump presidency would be much worse that the left winning

Hence my reservations

This ‘if you aren’t with us, you’re against us’ attitude ain’t cutting it

I do respect that Harris graduated from HU as well as some other things

It would be worse.

I'm sure Hillary would have staged a coup if she bet him in 16 and lost to him or any Republican in 20. That sounds like the left.


I know the Dems got a 2025 waiting for the next Dem President.

and now in the post below, he is the voice of the "working man"

I'm legit curious what your answer is.

For the record....regardless.... a Harris admin would clearly not be left wing. It appears she would be a continuation of Biden on most issues. Maybe even to his right on some domestic policy, so I assume you would vote for her because.... Biden has not been left wing.

I am curious what you fear in a "left wing" admin either way though.


Even if you think the "end of democracy" shit is overblown, Trump legit tried to throw out election results. What is the left-wing equivalent of that?

I was making the case that I don’t see a right wing presidency as much worse

As I’ve alluded to in other posts, I lean toward a Harris presidency because Trump does appear to be problematic

Just not overly enthused with either candidate

I mentioned a synagogue earlier and though it may appear antithetical I do agree with some Muslim views that the system is rigged

I have doubts about each party but I’m getting older and I’m starting to feel like if you can’t beat em join em

I represent the working man

I’d support Cornel if he was a viable candidate

Sue me ©️ Wale

but I don't think Trump being a threat to democracy is one of them.
I didnt even think too much of the 'bloodbath', or dictator on day one comments. It's just trump saying trumpy shit.

But he is the first president who wouldn't commit to the peaceful transfer of power, he still claims he won in 2020, and called his VP a coward because he certified the election, he still claims he won the popular vote in 2016, his rhetoric was directly responsible for January 6th, and he takes zero responsibility for it, he does suck up to dictators, etc...
There's a 100% chance he's going to say this election is rigged no matter how badly he loses

Plus he also literally said the other day Kamala is a threat to democracy, and he's been saying the country is over if she gets elected

The wackiest shit on the left is coming from the left flank of the party, Kamala's out here talking about fracking, and how her and Walz are gun owners and how she'll shoot anyone who breaks in her house. Yeah she talked more wokish in 2020, and she's a chameleon but so is just about every politician outside of bernie sanders

and they stormed the fucking capital and they wanted to throw a celebration bash for the jailed Jan 6 prisoners

BUT THE LEFT!!!!

man foh with anyone trying to compare the far left to the far right.

they want to overthrow the gov if they lose. That can’t be compared to annoying internet folk who argue for cleaner energy or higher wages

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/OIq5yetr9tM

Kamala said: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpnxR0UZqPg

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/janet-jackson-apology-kamala-harris-not-black_n_66f05a8ae4b0af9094c4a2b3

“Well, you know what they supposedly said? She’s not Black. That’s what I heard. That she’s Indian,” she told the outlet in an interview published Saturday.

After the reporter clarified that Harris is mixed, Jackson doubled down on echoing the right-wing conspiracy theory captained by Harris’ presidential opponent Donald Trump


she apologized and said she got some of that good ole misinformation

Arab or Black?

some of these Black people don’t want to be Black

She also went on to say…

“Her father’s white. That’s what I was told. I mean, I haven’t watched the news in a few days. I was told they discovered her father was white,” she responded.



Oh boy!

should only talk about what made them famous. That quote is terrible, smh.

The apology is messy too

https://variety.com/2024/music/news/janet-jackson-apology-kamala-harris-not-authorized-1236152776/


After a confusing turn of events on Sunday, reps for Janet Jackson tell Variety that an unusually worded “apology” for the singer’s ill-informed comments about Democratic presidential candidate Kamala Harris’ racial background was made by a person who is not the singer’s manager, as he had claimed, and thus was not authorized to speak on her behalf.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/chelseastewart/janet-jackson-kamala-harris-comments-apology


Amid the backlash, BuzzFeed spoke to Mo Elmasri, a man who claimed to be her manager and is a credited producer on her upcoming documentary. He has given statements about Janet in the past. In a statement to BuzzFeed, Mo said Janet's remarks were "based on misinformation" and said she apologized for "any confusion caused." However, reps have since told Variety that Janet did not authorize him to make the statement. When reached by Variety for comment, Mo clarified, "I no longer work for her. I was fired by Janet and Randy, after attempts to improve her image in front of public opinion and her fans, and this is something I do not deserve."

not that i blame him.

but yeah, Janet just doubled down.

kinda wild for that take on Kamala to be coming from her of all people.

Because their "real life" persona will disappoint you.

I remember ?uestlove saying that about sly stone some years ago.

Not for the same reasons here cuz I don't think he ever explained why.

But Kamala was Janet's senator and attorney general for the state of California -- where Janet resided -- for years. And somehow Janet didn't own a TV to know whether Kamala is black or not.

Or own a smartphone in 2024 to google a photo of Kamala's Afro-Jamaican father.

She's being willfully ignorant.

And it's a shame.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36ovmQj7gbQ

I'm sorry but after the first few minutes about silver platters and hard work she might as well say "Trump eats cats and dogs, so vote for me".

Anyone who works hard in this country and is smart with their money can make it. It sounds easy as its just 2 things you have to do, but its not. ITS WHAT IT IS. Taxing a billionaire their "fair share" wont change that.

Bill Gates saying he'd pay more means nothing because he's a fucking man cunt. Go ahead and do it then Bill.

The US government is a crack head for spending money. giving it more money isn't going to help it kick its habit.

I think regardless people will criticize but comparing this to cats and dogs is just crazy talk.

history. The fear of paying taxes has turned the radio waves into a brain-rotted, anti-government, pseudo-libertarian (govt bad only if Jesus is not in charge), cesspool of right wing nonsense.

read: https://substack.com/inbox/post/149324614

relevant point:

A few years ago, a billionaire acquired one of the largest networks of these stations (800+ stations) and a senator I’ve known for years invited him and me to meet in his office near the US Capitol. The Senator asked the billionaire — who then owned several hundred stations programming exclusively rightwing content — if he’d ever considered putting some progressive content on the air.

The billionaire leaned back in his chair, took a deep breath, tented his fingers in front of his mouth, and then said, carefully but emphatically:

“I’ll never put anybody on my air who wants to raise my taxes.”

Same with the podcast bros. They are easy to co-opt and exploit to redirect focus from taxing the shit out of the wealthiest americans (which an overwhelming number of voters support) to culture wars and men's rights activism.

Anybody with a brain can see the strategy Kamala is employing. "We are going to improve quality of life and American industry by making the bloated billionaire class pay their fair share and increase YOUR access to the wealth this country has created from your work."

and when I say broke.. I mean middle class on down.

it makes them heroes to the have nots.

they are the goal to strive to be like.

don't wanna "tear down" our heroes by making them pay their fair share.

so then you get dumb, rural poor people talking about "it's fair that Elon pays 2% taxes, look at everything he's done for society!"

https://x.com/mattyglesias/status/1837111621518287151

who should any poor schmuck give a shit if BILLIONAIRES get taxed a few more dollars. Their investments replenish those taxes overnight.

That’s it.

Same with Trump.

None of these people cared about politics at all until Obama won, and they lost their racist minds. Trump played on that, and here we are.

>That’s it.
>
>Same with Trump.
>
>None of these people cared about politics at all until Obama
>won, and they lost their racist minds. Trump played on that,
>and here we are.

It's so fucking telling.

is what it does.

your fave sicked her dogs on Janet Jackson like a racist LMAO

the fuck?

I'm your asshole cousin

https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=which+billionaire+bought+hundreds+of+radio+stations

Is a real honest to God liberal democrat, right?

Why is talk radio the last bastion of conservative, Christian, and libertarian 'news' in this country, but Soros the Democrat bankroll is controlling the programming?

Get your story straight

in order to control narratives yet my basic search said progressive Soros just made a major purchase of 200 stations as well.

don't blow a gasket lol

https://www.cato.org/commentary/talk-radio-turning-millions-americans-conservatives

https://www.americanprogress.org/article/talk-radio-by-the-numbers/

https://www.quora.com/Why-is-most-Talk-Radio-conservative-in-politics-rather-than-liberal-or-middle-of-the-road-Conservative-ALREADY-have-FOX-News-the-Wall-Street-Journal-and-other-right-of-centre-media-outlets-so-why-have-not-just-one

buying up the "town square", it seems weird to cry foul when lefties play dirty back

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/social-media/elon-musk-shared-tenet-content-thought-part-russian-plot-rcna171520

a conservative bought up radio stations and local tv stations. great.

have we only had republican presidents and politicians since this happened? no.

a progressive buys other stations, great.

are we all living in pods and eating bugs? no.

Which on its own is rich
Conservatives are whining about how unfair it is

Bur you're only bringing it up to be objective. If you say so 👍🏽

>Which on its own is rich
>Conservatives are whining about how unfair it is
>
>Bur you're only bringing it up to be objective. If you say so
>👍🏽

whats this other guys talking about with all his links then?

maybe everyone needs to stop being a bitch about everything.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57XMW6B99M8&t=446s

what a fuckin idiot

Sam Seder is a delusional fake communist.

one of them is good enough at what they do, which is entertainment, that he got spotify to cough up millions to host his show. The other relies on the poors to send him a few bucks every month to listen to him and his always right opinions.

I wonder what Seder's millionaire daddy thinks about his income tax ideas.

again, its bad when one rich person buys radio stations but not bad when another one does the same thing?

Like right now, what are these points you're making:

Seder's dad's a millionaire but Seder's a fake communist! (How do you even know this)

Ok, talk radio is 90% right leaning BUT Soros the super J** bought air space too (what kind of deep thinking iconoclastic rebel reads news about George fuckin Soros)

You sound like Rogan is why I linked the clip. You brought up one example of a liberal rich guy that all the right wing media hold up as a totem as your 'gotcha', but when you're confronted with the actual, larger truth you just kick rocks, change the subject, and keep moving the goalposts

The fact that you dismiss Seder as being supported by 'the poors' (or coastal elites? I can't remember) while Rogan, along with his buddies Pool and Shapino, have spun Russian and American oligarch bucks into roadside Big Gulp Grift that is consistently dismantled by simple Google searches, makes you a fake populist

no I just don't care about what you're trying to prove and decided to talk about Rogan.

rogan thought the donor class for democrats was big tech is it? who gives a fuck. Seder thinks if you earn more than 3mil you shouldn't need a 4th and 5th million and it should just go to the government so that a few hundred people YOU worship and another few hundred people YOU can't stand can fight over how to filter it all into THEIR pockets. I think seder has a more dangerous misconception.

its like you're stuck in the last post where i said the media leans left. I'm just pointing out how its funny when I googled to figure out who the big bad conservative was that was buying radio stations, and out comes the conservatives boogie man. stop making this what you WANT it to be, where I'm some racist and just believe whatever right wing grifters say. respectfully FUCK OFF.

also I THINK SHE STINKS!

She's a shit candidate who stands for nothing and has flip flopped on almost every stance she puts out. No tim pools or ben fucking shapiros convinced me of that, I've been alive and am of sound mind.

you don't get to dictate how I think, nor anyone else.

go find more links that support your credo.

nah son, disrespectfully, you go fuck off to wherever you were at before this election cycle when you wanted to come around and both-sides it out and tell people they are obsessed with race after pandering to them.

I didn't call you a racist at any point, you just showed your ass, as you continue to do the more you are pressed on your little talking points, you free-spirited, unbiased rebel who likes to ask questions

I see it in the horizon

everything in this reply is bullshit and irrelevant.

High taxes on the rich turned to income tax on the middle class. This is a fact.

Her tax plan WILL increase for everyone. not just the millionaires and billionaires. Everyone, unless you just don't pay them I guess.

besides that, the high school brain theory that you'll just tax the fuck out of the rich will eventually trickle down to the middle class is never going to work.

44% on Long term Capital Gains: Moronic and dangerous. People are going to see their retirement funds TANK when the people who own the majority of the stocks and index funds get pulled out right before they put this into law.

25% unrealized gains tax: While this might just be an Elon/Bezos tax at the moment(big dawgs who get paid in stocks), reference my second sentence up there... even an idiot can see this isn't a good idea or sustainable.

in 10-20-30 years when they start taking "just a modest 10% a year" from your unrealized gains as a person making under 400k you think that money is going to go to better school lunches or windmills? its going to proxy wars and death like it is now.

she's a bimbo with bimbo ideas. That's what most of the democratic party has become, on the outside at least. Student loan forgiveness ring a bell? They're reeling in the dummies and gullible people the same way you say JOE FUCKING ROGAN who has no actual power is reeling in the OTHER dumb/gullible people.

No?

then stfu

High school brain theory, meaning a model that has worked with great success in the past, as you learned in history class? The fear tactics you're employing by saying with 100% certainty that taxation of the wealthiest Americans will affect the middle class was either instilled in you by conservative pundits, or you fear taxes paid by all the upstanding white small business owners will be used to line the coffers of welfare queens. Taxation should be fair and equal and the social benefits of a well-funded government can't be denied. The people who fight taxation the hardest happen to be, maybe coincidentally and not causally, racists, conspiracy nuts, or wealthy. I don't know why you take up with them, but you do.

The proxy wars we are fighting are being fomented by two madmen afraid of losing control who are willing to let the world burn to keep their control, Putin and Netanyahu. I would say with confidence if these two were removed, the US would spend much less in funding war (yes, still too much). Trump being elected pretty much guarantees that these folks will not only continue to govern but thrive.

Bimbo, again, is a dumb meathead way to demean Kamala. You didn't have any of this disparaging energy with Biden. You were still pretending like you were just an unbiased question-asker on here when he was the candidate.

It's hard to discern the reason you are so negative on Kamala when she most likely will be less susceptible to the hawks in Washington, because you can only go in one direction from Biden (as a democrat, at least) when your supposed key issue is foreign diplomacy (lol), other than it's because you are a dumb meathead.

Are you saying they didnt because i'll delete my account right now lol. old people dont always have "time" for it to bounce back. Every bad idea has bad consequences and they've come from both sides.

Also we've never had an unrealized gains tax in this country. So miss me with what it will and wont do.

Its commie horse shit from someone who possibly has commie daddy issues. Add misogynist to your list of veiled assumptions.

Every time some bozo protects the honor of capital gains I wonder if their immigrant contractor or small business owning daddy from some poor eastern european country brainwashed them into believing that making the rich pay their fair share in their new country is going to lead to them getting deported or something

the 2008 crash did happen, because of lack of government regulation, not because of it

please google it

Unrealized gains do not affect regular people outside of, as you say, the exposure to the risk of their retirement accounts tanking if Big Capital, whose money is making money passively, start getting their earnings on that money taxed at a higher rate. They suddenly pull all their money out of the market, out of the banks, and start stuffing it into their downy mattresses in panic! (LOL)

You really think the benefits of passive income to the capitalist class are going to be totally upended by a higher tax on their earnings?

I can't believe you would fall for that

>You really think the benefits of passive income to the capitalist class
>are going to be totally upended by a higher tax on their earnings?

>I can't believe you would fall for that

>Every time some bozo protects the honor of capital gains I
>wonder if their immigrant contractor or small business owning
>daddy from some poor eastern european country brainwashed them
>into believing that making the rich pay their fair share in
>their new country is going to lead to them getting deported or
>something

no they said we're here with these crazy people because the commies back home ruined everything.

>the 2008 crash did happen, because of lack of government
>regulation, not because of it
>
>please google it

sometimes bad things happen from good intentions like the Clinton affordable housing act which our not so smart government(s) eventually decided to let wall street figure it out and boom, mortgage crisis.

>Unrealized gains do not affect regular people outside of, as
>you say, the exposure to the risk of their retirement accounts
>tanking if Big Capital, whose money is making money passively,
>start getting their earnings on that money taxed at a higher
>rate. They suddenly pull all their money out of the market,
>out of the banks, and start stuffing it into their downy
>mattresses in panic! (LOL)
>
>You really think the benefits of passive income to the
>capitalist class are going to be totally upended by a higher
>tax on their earnings?
>
>I can't believe you would fall for that

I know its never been done here or anywhere else probably for good reason.

if you were getting taxed similarly would you just leave your nest egg there? your progeny's future inheritance thats going to get vultured by the government when you die anyways?

before you say that will never happen, this is how it starts, look that up.

everyone pays a "fair share". there might be a VERY few who dance around it, guys like musk who will get paid in stock(which can tank at any moment) but musk also employs over 100 thousand people who also pay taxes. if he decided to take his ball and go home thats 100k+ less jobs and $0 taxes.

fuck it lets say he got taxed 50% of his "income". Thats 140ish billion dollars. Wheres that going? medicare for all? student loan forgiveness? meals on wheels?

we need to stop thinking of ways to tax more and pull on the poor peoples heart strings and focus more on scrutinizing where the money is getting spent now.

Causes of the mortgage crisis are as follows:

Predatory lending: Large banks targeted vulnerable minority communities with subprime mortgages, which led to high default rates.

Financial engineering risks: Underestimation of risks in financial engineering, such as collateralized debt obligations (CDOs), which were created from low-grade mortgages.

Excessive borrowing: Households and Wall Street took on too much risk and borrowed excessively.

Poor financial regulation: The Federal Reserve failed to stop the flow of toxic mortgages, and there were widespread failures in financial regulation.

Poor corporate governance: Financial firms took on too much risk and acted recklessly.

Derivatives: Derivatives led to a rapid devaluation of mortgage-backed securities and credit default swaps, which contributed to the collapse of financial institutions.

Housing asset bubble: The housing market was massively inflated.

Credit rating agency failures: Credit rating agencies failed.

lets trust the same government to make even more stupid decisions.

the way out of this mess we've been fueling since Bush 1 is tightening the belt, not taking more money from everyone(yes, everyone, not just a handful of billionaires). it's like telling a morbidly obese person the more you eat of something the more weight they would lose.

"sometimes bad things happen from good intentions like the Clinton affordable housing act which our not so smart government(s) eventually decided to let wall street figure it out and boom, mortgage crisis"

Brother are you special?

>Brother are you special?

"I'm sorry but after the first few minutes about silver platters and hard work she might as well say "Trump eats cats and dogs, so vote for me"."


Nah not even close.


https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/09/22/emmett-till-political-campaign-00180137

I don't know who Effa thinks he's working for lol

NYers voted in Adams and immediately complained about him. they voted for him though because they are tethered to their set.

How do you "crackdown" on the rich yet expect them to open factories and businesses?

Been waiting for this crackdown for 20 years.

>How do you "crackdown" on the rich yet expect them to open factories and businesses?

uuuhhhh stiffer government regulations and higher taxes?

who are out here running Tik Tok livestreams to their 37 followers with a MAGA background image, talking about how Kamala is gonna be the downfall of America.

those companies shit on people as soon as the stock takes a little hit.

they got you good..

“they won’t give us jobs if they get taxed at a higher rate”

sucker

When they start quoting Jordan Peele's Us you are deep in the youtube comments section.



>NYers voted in Adams and immediately complained about him.
>they voted for him though because they are tethered to their
>set.
>
>How do you "crackdown" on the rich yet expect them to open
>factories and businesses?
>
>Been waiting for this crackdown for 20 years.
>
>
>
>
>


**********
"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

I didn't see this movie.

You're going off track.

bottom line is she stinks and is full of shit

>I didn't see this movie.
>
>You're going off track.
>
>bottom line is she stinks and is full of shit

Super hero NFT cards and High Top kicks and SHE is full of shit.

This country is fucking weird.

with stupid merch than our current gov has generated with all the taxes they are collecting.

unless aiding in blowing up muslim and eastern european folks counts monetarily.

You have put forward nothing of substance in these posts except Kamala bad, Trump not so bad

Big government bad

Media mean to Trump

Trump peace candidate

Taxes hurt America

You don't have any examples or citations. You just have your gut reactions to people who you perceive as wielding control over you

unless I vote blue my vote means nothing.

my local vote means nothing too. They love voting blue here even though our politicians are scumbags.

but lets say I stand in line like a fool and vote Jill Stein is that any less bad in your eyes?

It blows my mind when people think this way in 2024.

But I guess if you don’t vote anyway, you wouldn’t care about the ability to continue to vote, election integrity, etc.

>But I guess if you don’t vote anyway, you wouldn’t care
>about the ability to continue to vote, election integrity,
>etc.

"ability to continue to vote" is wild man. the oogie boogie republicans waited until trump turned the party upside down, won, then lost, then ran again to try this diabolical scheme? I mean listen to yourself.

>unless I vote blue my vote means nothing.
>
>my local vote means nothing too. They love voting blue here
>even though our politicians are scumbags.
>

I assume you’ll be moving to Mississippi or somewhere they love voting Red, somewhere soon then? Think that’ll go better for you?

Just making unproductive "both sides bad" arguments, while not committing to anything openly.

Doesn't look like you are acting in good faith, just sowing doubt

n/m

This is a black/white issue now?

What a joke. Whats her stance on reparations then?

It wasn't a black/white issue when the convict and his vp clown started pushing Birth of Nation part 2 ?

She gave her answer on reparations during the NABJ interview.

they really love “them” more than us.

what’s HIS status on reparations and “the Blacks???”

like Michelle Obama said, they on that Goldilocks syndrome. The Dem always has to be juuuuust right or its trash. Especially if its a Black or Brown person or a woman.

White man tho.. he can say anything and still get the benefit of doubt bus as soon as its US all a sudden they have standards.

>they really love “them” more than us.
>
>what’s HIS status on reparations and “the Blacks???”
>
>like Michelle Obama said, they on that Goldilocks syndrome.
>The Dem always has to be juuuuust right or its trash.
>Especially if its a Black or Brown person or a woman.
>
>White man tho.. he can say anything and still get the benefit
>of doubt bus as soon as its US all a sudden they have
>standards.
>
>

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ All that


They never run out of passes to give, no matter how much damage is done.

Like when Vader sensed Kenobi was in the Death Star

they are doing a great job of shielding her though, if netflix comes out with a project2025 doc she might win in a landslide.

and nobody ever talks about him. Until me right now, reminding everyone he’s dead.

Nothing he did had any value. That’s why nobody ever brings him up.

He’s the epitome of the Republican Party…..just a worthless piece of shit, stirring up hate and anger.

Get chomped by them worms, hoe.

>

They already being harmed?

Without the Muslim vote?

I get their frustration tho

>Without the Muslim vote?

Arab - Americans in Michigan make up a small percentage of the overall voting block, although highly influential ... it's really only limited to Detroit/Dearborn/Hamtramck

btw

One of the largest Muslim political organizations just endorsed Kamala Harris


https://emgageaction.org/emgageendorsement/

👀

but Muslims doing anything other than voting for Kamala will turn out badly for them (here and abroad).

voting green, which you're so excited to do, just pushes Trump closer to victory, and we've seen how much he loves Muslims.

https://www.aclu-wa.org/pages/timeline-muslim-ban

and

https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/01/politics/trump-immigration-what-matters/index.html


But hey, FREE COUNTRY!!!, MY RIGHT!!!!!!, I'd vote for Cornel if it was viable!!!!

The differences isn't between grey and grey - it's light grey and BLOOD RED.

I'm sure that will help.


Keep telling people how short sighted they are if they feel completely betrayed by democrats.

We need more chubby white dudes in California telling people how to think- especially people who have family and/or friends who have lived in absolute terror for nearly a year. You are desperately needed.


Since The Ozempic is making you even more mental than usual, let me help you out. If Palestine was your biggest issue, there is no difference between the two parties at this point. None. Trump would not be worse on this. The same? Sure. But not worse.

Thank your shit-for-brains demented hero for that. For some reason, Catholic Joe is to the right of even Reagan on Israel. He has refused to check them at all, and a lot of people are dead or traumatized.

I know you are so deep in this team sports politics shit, that you will tune this out and go back to doodling "President Hillary Clinton" in your food journal, but please know...Joe Biden has not only failed morally, but politically.

Because if he had put even the slightest check on Israel, this issue would not be as damaging for Kamala...who I actually give some benefit of the doubt to here because she can't realistically campaign against her boss.

On this particular issue, the difference is between BLOOD RED and BLOOD RED with UKRAINE and PRIDE FLAGS OMG YASS


PS No one even mentioned Cornell West you fucking weirdo.

You got TWO choices in this election and it's CLEAR which will be worse for their issue.

And you're still in some fantasy shit about "If the dems were just a *little* more vocal then XXXX would change." Whether it's Machin , Israel, the border, etc. etc. "Check on Israel?"


Trump statements:
https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/04/politics/trump-israel-comments/index.html
https://www.nbcnews.com/now/video/trump-says-biden-should-let-israel-finish-the-job-213855813942

We *know* what the 'JOB' is that Trump is urging Netayhu. Is there any possible confusion? IS recognizing that DEMANDING FEALTHTO A DEM? Is it TELLING THEM HOW TO THINK?? It's point out the most OBVIOUS SHIT ever.

And the day after the election I hope to see support your preferred candidates for local, state, and national offices so they may have small chance of actually being able to implement any of your agenda.

But thanks for all the insults, race shit, fat shaming, etc. Shows you really CARE about the issues.

Good you threw in some pro Russia and pro Homophobia shit in there too!!

and I would have been genuinely worried...

She would have checked so many boxes

women
white women
conservative women
Southerners
a large percentage of South Asian votes (shes very popular in the Punjabi and Guju communities, two factions of the South Asian population which generally lean right wing / conservative, ie Modi Trump rallies in Texas, Sikhs for Trump etc)


...but instead he chose a vp candidate who hates women without children, immigrants , and behaves like a creepy robot cyborg around everyday working people.


edit , This debate vs Tim Walz is going be fun. I forgot its coming in a few days

And you should be worried

I don't know what you're seeing that makes you comfortable

now, that could be fools gold.

but, something just smells too fishy.

it's weird when you see a poll that says Kamala is up by 3 points somewhere then a day later she's down 1 in the same place.

it's almost like we're being taken on an emotional roller coaster to keep us all invested and tuned in to the news.

(this might be the most conspiracy-y thing i've ever said on these boards)

and my theory/hope is its just to keep us engaged in an election that won’t be newrly
as close.

but its America and you know the GOP is going to work overtime suppressing and tossing votes in swing states.

If GA has to count the election by hand.. GOP will easily win GA.

>And you should be worried

I'm definitely concerned , but not like I was in 2016/2020


>I don't know what you're seeing that makes you comfortable

just a hunch...

the general fatigue of americans and the far right "sky is falling" rhetoric, the indifference / absence of the undecided/ apathetic voter and (rightfully so ) disappointed muslim/arab voters/far left that will abstain from this voting in this election , and I fully believe this upcoming debate is going to expose JD Vance as way over his head and out of touch..I think that choice is what will be his downfall.

just my .02

I doubt it.

This election is razor thin as is.

Unless you are talking about Cali I can’t see how anyone thinks this isn’t going to be a close election.

My hope is the media and polls are shit once again and they aren’t polling younger voters.

And the political options within the south Asian voters as a whole (this includes Pakistanis Bangladeshis Afghans Sri Lanka Nepal Burma Myanmar ) are wide and varied to even say that this block of voters votes one way or another,

Edit shameless plug this book covers that topic really well, (author is a friend of mine)

Desis Divided: The Political Lives of South Asian Americans

https://www.upress.umn.edu/9780816681167/desis-divided/

I was just highlighting how much more wildly popular she would have been across the board compared to this guy

>I doubt it.
>
>This election is razor thin as is.
>
>Unless you are talking about Cali I can’t see how anyone
>thinks this isn’t going to be a close election.
>
>My hope is the media and polls are shit once again and they
>aren’t polling younger voters.

he is a misogynist so it would make her look just how she looks now.. pathetic.

>And the political options

https://www.threads.net/@acynig/post/DAeuGXvyPN8/?xmt=AQGzqu65jx-BbKVtrxGLQHzvEdxyX45Axf9yfK_XQysUYA

Something seriously wrong with this senile lunatic.

https://youtu.be/jucDFrO89Ko?si=mtX0XnZzVdxFCneV

expect similar shenanigans this year but in multiple states...

https://apnews.com/article/cbs-debate-vice-president-fact-check-7a3b31c98ab092dd44915df57a359d10


CBS News says it will be up to Vance and Walz to fact-check each other in veep debate


NEW YORK (AP) — CBS News, hosting vice presidential candidates JD Vance and Tim Walz for the general election campaign’s third debate next week, says it will be up to the politicians — not the moderators — to check the facts of their opponents.

The 90-minute debate, scheduled for 9 p.m. Eastern on Tuesday in a Manhattan studio that once hosted the children’s program “Captain Kangaroo,” will be moderated by the outgoing “CBS Evening News” anchor Norah O’Donnell and “Face the Nation” host Margaret Brennan.

During ABC’s debate between presidential contenders Kamala Harris and Donald Trump earlier this month, network moderators on four occasions pointed out inaccurate statements by Trump, and none by Harris. That infuriated the former president and his supporters, who complained it was unfair.

Last spring, CNN moderators did not question any facts presented by Trump and President Joe Biden in the debate where Biden’s poor performance eventually led to him dropping out of the race.

On Friday, CBS said the onus will be on Vance and Walz to point out misstatements by the other, and that “the moderators will facilitate those opportunities” during rebuttal time. The network said its own misinformation unit, CBS News Confirmed, will provide real-time fact-checking during the debate on its live blog and on social media, and on the air during post-debate analysis.


Walz has experience on a debate stage pinning down an abortion opponent’s shifting positions
With its plans, CBS News is clearly indicating it wants to take a step back from the heat generated by calling attention to misleading statements by candidates. Some argue that offstage fact-checking is too little, too late and not seen by many people who watch the event.

It’s not the first time

Angie Drobnic Holan, director of the international fact-checking network at the Poynter Institute, said she has seen examples of moderators who have successfully encouraged candidates to keep their opponents honest.

“I’ll be interested in seeing how this works in practice,” she said. “Having said that, you’re basically off-loading one of your journalistic responsibilities onto the candidates themselves, so I don’t think that it’s ideal. It takes journalistic courage to be willing to fact-check the candidates, because the candidates are absolutely going to complain about it. I don’t think the moderators’ first goal is to avoid controversy.”

During the ABC debate, moderators David Muir and Linsey Davis corrected Trump statements on abortion, the 2020 election, crime statistics and reports that immigrants in Ohio were eating pets.

Unlike the two presidential debates, the two sides agreed that the vice presidential candidates’ microphones will not be turned off while their opponent is speaking, increasing the chance for genuine back-and-forth exchanges and the risk that the two men will talk over each other. CBS says it reserves the right to shut off a “hot mic” when necessary. Each candidate will have two minutes for a closing statement, with Vance winning a virtual coin toss and choosing to get the last word.

The stakes are high for CBS News
It’s a big moment for CBS News, long mired in third place in the evening news ratings. O’Donnell just announced she was stepping down from the role. Brennan is considered a rising star.

Like with the presidential debates, CBS is making its feed available for other networks to televise, and many are expected to take advantage of the opportunity.




.
There will be no audience when Vance and Walz meet at a West Side studio that, in its past, has hosted editions of “60 Minutes,” “CBS Sunday Morning,” “Inside the NFL,” “Geraldo” and “Captain Kangaroo.”

It’s not known whether there will be other opportunities to see Trump and Harris together on the same stage before the Nov. 5 election. Harris has accepted an invitation from CNN for another debate on Oct. 23, but Trump has rejected it. In a poll taken by Quinnipiac University and released earlier this week, likely voters said by roughly a two-to-one margin that they’d like them face off again.

CBS’ “60 Minutes” is looking to land both Harris and Trump for back-to-back interviews that will air on Oct. 7, but neither candidate has committed to it yet.

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David Bauder writes about media for the AP. Follow him at http://x.com/dbauder.

https://youtu.be/-pZIqYUfcHg?si=q_cakPPsAuo-RoCR

in LL voice anytime he thought some shit was a lie.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/project-2025-corey-deangelis-gay-adult-films-porn_n_66fb2ef8e4b029b6b7a7126c/amp

man says he was a victim of poor decisions. All these GOP hypocrites screaming abiht the dangers of shit are the one’s who engage in these activities.



A prominent school privatization activist who has been praised by former President Donald Trump and who has contributed to Project 2025 has spoken out for the first time after videos surfaced that appeared to show his involvement in gay pornographic videos earlier this month.

“As an activist for parental rights and school choice, my passion is personal,” Corey DeAngelis wrote on X, formerly Twitter, on Monday morning. “I was a victim of poor decisions and poor influences. I have turned that experience into the fuel that fires me to save young people from being put in the same position I was put in and to help parents protect their children.”

Earlier this month, a blog called Str8 Up Gay Porn, which shares reviews of gay porn and articles about the adult entertainment industry, first reported that a person who resembles DeAngelis appeared in several gay adult films.
The performer, who appears under the name “Seth Rose,” is in at least three gay adult films on the pornography website GayHoopla, dating to 2014. In the videos, “Rose,” appears masturbating solo and alongside other men.

DeAngelis’ post on Monday appears to acknowledge his appearance in these films, and that he was a “victim of poor decisions.” His post went out to his 163,000 followers on X, and received praise from conservative writers like Richard Hanania and Chris Rufo, who is largely credited with fabricating the panic over critical race theory.
DeAngelis has been a fierce critic of what he views as “pornographic” content in school literature, often referring to any education materials that include discussion of LGBTQ+ people and their experiences.

The day that Str8 Up Gay Porn posted its blog, DeAngelis shared a graphic on X illustrating a satirical lesson plan of the “radical left” in 2024, including “drag queen story hours,” “mandatory pronoun recognition,” and “boys participating in girls sports.”
DeAngelis did not respond to HuffPost’s request for comment though he did post a screenshot of this reporter’s inquiry to X, and said that the article is “a hit piece against me because I don’t want porn in schools.”

The self described “school choice evangelist” is also listed as a contributor to Project 2025 on behalf of the American Federation for Children. Project 2025 is a policy roadmap for a second Trump presidency, authored by the Heritage Foundation and a network of conservative organizations.

we've literally seen it with these people a thousand times.

>https://www.huffpost.com/entry/project-2025-corey-deangelis-gay-adult-films-porn_n_66fb2ef8e4b029b6b7a7126c/amp
>
>man says he was a victim of poor decisions. All these GOP
>hypocrites screaming abiht the dangers of shit are the one’s
>who engage in these activities.
>
>
>
>A prominent school privatization activist who has been praised
>by former President Donald Trump and who has contributed to
>Project 2025 has spoken out for the first time after videos
>surfaced that appeared to show his involvement in gay
>pornographic videos earlier this month.
>
>“As an activist for parental rights and school choice, my
>passion is personal,” Corey DeAngelis wrote on X, formerly
>Twitter, on Monday morning. “I was a victim of poor
>decisions and poor influences. I have turned that experience
>into the fuel that fires me to save young people from being
>put in the same position I was put in and to help parents
>protect their children.”
>
>Earlier this month, a blog called Str8 Up Gay Porn, which
>shares reviews of gay porn and articles about the adult
>entertainment industry, first reported that a person who
>resembles DeAngelis appeared in several gay adult films.
>The performer, who appears under the name “Seth Rose,” is
>in at least three gay adult films on the pornography website
>GayHoopla, dating to 2014. In the videos, “Rose,” appears
>masturbating solo and alongside other men.
>
>DeAngelis’ post on Monday appears to acknowledge his
>appearance in these films, and that he was a “victim of poor
>decisions.” His post went out to his 163,000 followers on X,
>and received praise from conservative writers like Richard
>Hanania and Chris Rufo, who is largely credited with
>fabricating the panic over critical race theory.
>DeAngelis has been a fierce critic of what he views as
>“pornographic” content in school literature, often
>referring to any education materials that include discussion
>of LGBTQ+ people and their experiences.
>
>The day that Str8 Up Gay Porn posted its blog, DeAngelis
>shared a graphic on X illustrating a satirical lesson plan of
>the “radical left” in 2024, including “drag queen story
>hours,” “mandatory pronoun recognition,” and “boys
>participating in girls sports.”
>DeAngelis did not respond to HuffPost’s request for comment
>though he did post a screenshot of this reporter’s inquiry
>to X, and said that the article is “a hit piece against me
>because I don’t want porn in schools.”
>
>The self described “school choice evangelist” is also
>listed as a contributor to Project 2025 on behalf of the
>American Federation for Children. Project 2025 is a policy
>roadmap for a second Trump presidency, authored by the
>Heritage Foundation and a network of conservative
>organizations.

that everyone has to resist

you're just gay, bro

https://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=114409494

Special counsel Jack Smith has outlined new details of former President Donald Trump and his allies' sweeping and "increasingly desperate" efforts to overturn his 2020 election loss, in a blockbuster court filing Wednesday aimed at defending Smith's prosecution of Trump following the Supreme Court's July immunity ruling.

Trump intentionally lied to the public, state election officials, and his own vice president in an effort to cling to power after losing the election, while privately describing some of the claims of election fraud as "crazy," prosecutors alleged in the 165-page filing.

"When the defendant lost the 2020 presidential election, he resorted to crimes to try to stay in office," the filing said. "With private co-conspirators, the defendant launched a series of increasingly desperate plans to overturn the legitimate election results in seven states that he had lost."

When Trump's effort to overturn the election through lawsuits and fraudulent electors failed to change the outcome of the election, prosecutors allege that the former president fomented violence, with prosecutors describing Trump as directly responsible for "the tinderbox that he purposely ignited on January 6."

"The defendant also knew that he had only one last hope to prevent Biden's certification as President: the large and angry crowd standing in front of him. So for more than an hour, the defendant delivered a speech designed to inflame his supporters and motivate them to march to the Capitol," Smith wrote

The lengthy filing -- which includes an 80-page summary of the evidence gathered by investigators -- outlines multiple instances in which Trump allegedly heard from advisers who disproved his allegations, yet continued to spread his claims of outcome-determinative voter fraud, prosecutors said.

"It doesn't matter if you won or lost the election. You still have to fight like hell," Trump allegedly told members of his family following the 2020 election, the filing said.


According to prosecutors, Trump "laid the groundwork for his crimes well before" Election Day, including by sowing doubt among his supporters and planning to declare victory immediately, despite multiple advisers telling him that the results were unlikely to be finalized on Election Day.

Prosecutors allege that Trump and his allies "sought to create chaos" at polling places -- including one instance when a campaign employee encouraged a colleague to "make them riot" at an ongoing vote count in Detroit -- which the former president later used to support his claims of voter fraud.

"The throughline of these efforts was deceit: the defendant's and co-conspirators' knowingly false claims of election fraud," the filing said.

In addition to outlining the instances when Trump was directly corrected about his allegations of voter fraud, the filing said Trump privately called allegations of voter fraud made by his lawyer Sidney Powell as "crazy" -- despite employing similar arguments to cast doubt on the legitimacy of the election, prosecutors allege.

MORE: What constitutes an 'official act' by a president?
Trump last year pleaded not guilty to federal charges of undertaking a "criminal scheme" to overturn the results of the 2020 election in order to remain in power. Wednesday's filing comes at a pivotal moment in the case, as U.S. District Judge Tanya Chutkan is set to begin considering whether any of the allegations included in the government's case are protected by presidential immunity after the Supreme Court ruled in a blockbuster decision that Trump is entitled to immunity from criminal prosecution for official acts undertaken while in office.

In August, Smith filed a pared-down indictment that removed allegations likely to have been considered official acts -- including Trump's interactions with Justice Department officials to interfere with the election -- while still charging the former president with the same four criminal counts he originally faced. Last week, Smith filed a sealed brief seeking to justify the superseding indictment, then sought to file a redacted version for public release.


Trump's lawyers opposed Wednesday's lengthy filing -- which they described as "tantamount to a premature and improper Special Counsel report" -- and argued that public release of the allegations would improperly influence the election and violate Department of Justice policies. Judge Chutkan -- who has long stated that the election does not play a factor in her decision making -- ordered the filing be publicly released Wednesday.

In justifying his case against Trump, Smith alleged that Trump acted as an office-seeker rather than an officeholder when he committed crimes, and that he "must stand trial for his private crimes as would any other citizen."

"Although the defendant was the incumbent President during the charged conspiracies, his scheme was fundamentally a private one," Wednesday's filing said.

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.258148/gov.uscourts.dcd.258148.252.0.pdf

if we lived in a fair and honest society.

seems open and shut but of course it won't be. could amount to nothing w/ the way the courts have been set up to favor trump and his cronies.

if Trump wins
I'm not saying hes gonna go after everyone but he's def gonna go after him

nothing he does will change the mind of anyone who supports him. like not one thing

he won't ever not be white & male and named Trump.

the best thing that man can do for his people is dye.


d

"i do more for both our communities than you'll ever know." - Heinz
"But rest assured, in my luxurious house built on the backs of people darker than me, I am sipping fine scotch and scoffing at how stupid you are." - bshelly

and lose nobody.

People would blame "Them".

The Dems.
The Deep State.
Antifa.
Crazy Nancy Pelosi
The Biden Crime Family
Hilary Clinton
Some Mexican
You name it, his people will blame anyone but him

Or they'll go all in with dystopian fiction

It's a body double to fool the liberal elites, just like dinosaur bones were placed there to fool scientists.

In fact, we could sit here and just make up all kinds of outlandish scenarios, and no matter how batshit insane they are, they'd STILL be plausible scenarios that, if presented by one of them, those fucking morons would believe it and run with it, just like the birds aren't real idiots.

And yep. You're right.

>and lose nobody.
>
>People would blame "Them".
>
>The Dems.
>The Deep State.
>Antifa.
>Crazy Nancy Pelosi
>The Biden Crime Family
>Hilary Clinton
>Some Mexican
>You name it, his people will blame anyone but him
>
>Or they'll go all in with dystopian fiction
>
>It's a body double to fool the liberal elites, just like
>dinosaur bones were placed there to fool scientists.
>
>In fact, we could sit here and just make up all kinds of
>outlandish scenarios, and no matter how batshit insane they
>are, they'd STILL be plausible scenarios that, if presented by
>one of them, those fucking morons would believe it and run
>with it, just like the birds aren't real idiots.
>
>

must be king james version, leatherbound, have the Declaration of independence and the Pledge inside.

what bible has all those specific things?

a $3.3 Mill tax payer gift to Trump.

These people have zero shame.

I'm not optimistic about Harris' chances right now. I'm getting Clinton 2016 vibes about the rust belt states.

I think Biden 2020 was better positioned to win those due to his Scranton roots, working class rhetoric, and (unfortunately) being a man. I don't know if Harris can keep them.

And unions are key to winning the rust belt and it seems like they aren't giving Harris the enthusiastic support that she needs. The old labor democrats have been dwindling away for a while now.

Because 'Murica.

Also, the Biden presidency has done her no favors.

Inflation is down
Jobs are up
Unemployment is down
Inflation reduction Act has been kicking ass and created 330K new jobs, medicine prices are capped.

The problem is people believe its all shit because Trump keeps repeating it over and over again.

None of what he is saying is true. The man is selling junk to his supporters which they buy WHILE he swears the economy is shit.

this is going to be a very close election, and she will be very lucky to win.

>> Still Amerikkka- racist and sexist as fuck.

>> The Middle East stuff by Biden is going to hurt Kamala. Its not just Arab Americans. Its young people. Its anti-war people. Its people who are informed enough to know that Biden has not used any of his leverage/power in the situation- even compared to previous Republican presidents. This alone is enough to hurt her chances.

>> People are stupid- especially when it comes to inflation. "Inflation is down" means, to a lot of people, that prices should be going back down when, of course, they never will. Unfortunately, people are particularly uninformed when it comes to inflation. The Biden admin did no favors by denying and downplaying inflation for years. They should have been more honest and empathetic about it. The gaslighting backfired.

>> The macro-economic numbers are a hard sell when people can't afford the shit they used to, can't buy a home, etc.

>> The Harris campaign has made some very odd- Clinton-like decisions. Backing off the attacks on Trump and Vance for being extreme. Having Walz play nice and try to find common ground with a guy who wants to force pregancies. Etc.

>> I don't think they Cheney endorsements are going to net anything. Dick Cheney left office with like a 13% approval rating. No one- left, middle, right- likes that motherfucker.

>> She seems more focused on convincing republicans to vote for her. She should have hired her own people, because this isn't 2004. The game is turnout your voters.


She was given a difficult task, but the party should have greenlit her to separate from Biden on at least a few issues.


Either way, its going to be close. And it shouldn't be close at all.

and rambling so much people are leaving his rallies.

there was no gaslighting on inflation. Trump AND Biden printed a ton of money but recent job numbers, unemployment and the Inflation Act have all eased inflation and talk of a recession.

Middle East stuff may hurt a little but I think most folks know the Middle East is a shit show and regardless of who is president, they gonna fight.

I didn't like Walz being nice but that is his appeal. They want to get older white people to see Walz as a moderate and it worked. Everyone loved the debate because it was civil and "nice" Walz is for Michigan, Wisconsin and the middle of Pennsylvania.

I don't understand why you all keep talking about going further left. You don't win general elections going further to the left. You win primaries and local elections going to the left. The left shit is what Trump and them pounce on in the general.

maybe I'm too scarred by 2016. But shit is giving me Hillary vibes, man.

>and rambling so much people are leaving his rallies.

Yeah, but then again did you see the crowd he pulled in PA?

Underestimating Trump voter turnout is starting to sound like "oh he's going to prison this time" or whatever.




>
>there was no gaslighting on inflation.

There absolutely was, man. Administration downplayed it for months and months.


Trump AND Biden printed
>a ton of money

I don't blame either of them for inflation, that's not my point. My point is the Biden admin tried to pretend it wasn't there for too long.




but recent job numbers, unemployment and the
>Inflation Act have all eased inflation and talk of a
>recession.

Like I said, those macro numbers aren't as meaningful on an individual level when they can't afford a house. Or rent. Or the groceries they used to.

Inflation is easing for a variety of reasons- but dumbass Joe Sixpack in rural PA hears that an expects his Bud Light to be as cheap as it was.

Inflation can be election killers, man.

The only things I think the Biden admin could have done differently is recognize it earlier in an empathetic way ( a strength of Joe's before he started sundowning) and going after price gougers.

My point isn't a critique of the Biden admin, though. Its that anyone expecting the good macro numbers to carry Kamala are missing a big picture- and giving Americans too much credit.


>
>Middle East stuff may hurt a little but I think most folks
>know the Middle East is a shit show and regardless of who is
>president, they gonna fight.

Yeah, I think you seriously underestimate the impact this will have.


>
>I didn't like Walz being nice but that is his appeal.

Yeah that's part of his appeal, but the only reason we know his name is because he did an excellent job going on cable news and calling these dudes weird.

Literally, the only reason you and I are talking about him.

No, the campaign got a memo from consultants that they should be nicer. There's a reason people think that debate was a tie or a Vance win.

Should have let Walz be Walz.

They
>want to get older white people to see Walz as a moderate and
>it worked. Everyone loved the debate because it was civil and
>"nice" Walz is for Michigan, Wisconsin and the middle of
>Pennsylvania.

I don't know - or have read- a single democrat who "loved the debate"


>
>I don't understand why you all keep talking about going
>further left.

Where did I say move further left !?!?!???

I'm not saying that. I'm saying turnout democrats first. Thats their first- and most important- job.

Instead, they seem more convinced that "for every rural vote they lose, they will pick up two moderate GOP votes in the burbs" like 2016.

And I think 2016 showed that Republicans aren't coming to vote for the democrat. This isn't 1996. They are at best wasting their time and energy on bullshit Cheney events, and are probably signaling even more to anti-war democrats that this isn't their party.

It also sends a bad message that she won't even meet with the uncommitted movement- but is willing to praise Dick Cheney. How is the tent big enough for a guy who literally everyone hates, but not for loyal democrat voters who just want to talk to her about the situation in the Middle East?

Did you see one of the reasons the Teamsters decided not to endorse is because she refused to promise not to replace Kahn?

Unions. Anti-ware people. Young people. Arab-Americans. Dreamers. etc etc. All traditionally loyal democrat groups.

Not a lot of love for those groups from this campaign.

But neocons who have been hellbent on leveling the middle east for decades? Public praise.

I think its going to backfire.


You don't win general elections going further to
>the left. You win primaries and local elections going to the
>left.

Again, no one said move left. But her campaign right now is eerily similar to Hillary's. I think you are too big of a Biden/Harris fan to see it.




The left shit is what Trump and them pounce on in the
>general.
>
>
>

This is a weird argument. Harris has come out with endorsements from plenty of establishment Republicans. Even embraced the GOP framing of the border- and wants to pass a bill that includes funding for Trumpolini's fucking wall.

He still calls her radical and even mentally deranged. Trump doesn't operate on what his opponent does or doesn't do- he just makes shit up either way.

"Do this so Trump doesn't say mean things about you" is a weird and losing strategy.

re: people leaving his rallies and tiring of his bullshit, I think that some of us are underplaying that for sure. I'd be shocked but not particularly surprised if Kamala won semi-easily. I'm just trying not to get my hopes up.


>and rambling so much people are leaving his rallies.
>
>there was no gaslighting on inflation. Trump AND Biden printed
>a ton of money but recent job numbers, unemployment and the
>Inflation Act have all eased inflation and talk of a
>recession.
>
>Middle East stuff may hurt a little but I think most folks
>know the Middle East is a shit show and regardless of who is
>president, they gonna fight.
>
>I didn't like Walz being nice but that is his appeal. They
>want to get older white people to see Walz as a moderate and
>it worked. Everyone loved the debate because it was civil and
>"nice" Walz is for Michigan, Wisconsin and the middle of
>Pennsylvania.
>
>I don't understand why you all keep talking about going
>further left. You don't win general elections going further to
>the left. You win primaries and local elections going to the
>left. The left shit is what Trump and them pounce on in the
>general.

https://www.newsweek.com/kamala-harris-trump-truth-social-rally-crowd-size-1964081

lies vs reality

he said the place was packed.. then the camera pans and the building was 2/3 empty.

but who knows.
in 2020 people were sick of the chaos, and Biden seemed like a steady hand to enough people.
but i think alot of people look back on the pre-pandemic trump era as not being all that bad, despite the freak outs over him... that yeah he tweeted and ran his mouth, but it was generally ok, and things cost less, border was more secure, crime wasnt as bad... that Biden didn't bring the stability people were hoping for, and Kamala doesn't really inspire any confidence that things will improve (I'm not making any of these arguments, just talking perception)

Some of this i base on my own bubble and observations, which I think everyone does to a degree, where while most people haven't changed, but I've only seen people trending either towards trump, or dems suck more, or they both suck... and no one the other direction. My bubble means nothing in California, but i gotta wonder how things are in states that matter.

Happy to be dead wrong. I certainly was about the midterms... maybe things like abortion will factor heavily, but I'm pretty much resigned to Trump 2.0.

repeat 2016 mistakes/overconfidence/etc

AND


call every poll they don't like "fake" or garbage or whatever.


this time out. Its the worst of both worlds.


So the polls that have them up are right and show they are going to win and support their confidence. The polls that have them down are fake news. Oh, and the 12 people out there who don't hate Dick Cheney are going to seal this thing. Its just...insane.


Maybe/hopefully there is a Roe wave coming still. Or an unaccounted-for Taylor Swift effect or some shit.

Who are the Dick Cheney fans? I give Liz credit for having integrity on J6, but the man is still an evil PoS
Even George W, who's rep improved vastly because of Trump, legit seems like a nice guy but he was an objectively horrible president who did way more damage than Trump.. (though he had 8 years)

Taylor Swift may actually have some influence, but that 400K registered voters was an inflated stat because they haven't said how many actually registered. But even 400k clicks to voter registration off a Swift IG story is insaaane.

But agreed on the overconfidence and being selective on what polls and sources actually matter... ones that always happen to align with what people want to happen

and y'all keep buying into it.

Trumps handpicked people got stomped but you're picking people like Herchel Walker and Dr Oz.. but you also had people like DiSantis over performing. It gave people the impression that he was the heir apparent but he flopped too. Thing is none of these people are Trump. People thought the fever had broken and maybe it did to a degree, but truthfully the indictments helped him tremendously. They all circled the wagons around him.

Even repubs or indies who don't like him aren't going to switch to Kamala. Her only real sell is she's not trump. That's enough for me, but my vote doesn't matter

and they fell flat because people are jumping ship. They stayed home.

You think if Trump was up big he would be looking for ways to steal Georgia? Dude knows these numbers are a problem right now.

But Trump preemptively crying foul and trying to cheat shouldn't be taken as a sign that he's surely going to lose. He's gonna do all this anyway.

Even when he won, he said dems cheated

aren't there.

Sure, polls have it close but we know polls ain't worth a dam these days.

I think not admitting they lost 2020 is going to make for an even worse loss this time.

"Trump wouldn't cheat if he was winning"...what? Have you not paid attention to this man?!?!???


The polls that don't show what we want aint worth a damn?


So we shouldn't look at history. Or polls. Or the size of his rallies. Or the tech billionaires lining up behind him.


And we should ignore how inflation can hurt the incumbent party. And ignore how an unpopular war can hurt the incumbent party.


We should look at 2022 where Dems over-performed polls. But not 2016 or 2020 when Trump over performed the polls.


There's optimistic and just closing your ears and eyes.


Now, I'm not saying Trump has it locked by any means. But I have no idea how any retional person can think Kamala has it locked.

just because he is Trump and not because he knows the truth about Georgia.

The internal numbers ain’t good. This is why he is doing all he can to steal GA.

New registration for voters in GA popped right after Biden stepped down


——-


The polls from Georgia have been showing Trump marginally up over Kamala. Could they be missing a whole bunch of naturalized citizens?

One phenomenon seen in Georgia from July 21st when Biden dropped from the race was an increased voter registration. Georgia has seen 120,000-plus new voter registrants from July 21 through September 8, encapsulating the first eight to ten weeks since Harris replaced Biden at the top of the ticket.

While more than half of those registrants are unaffiliated, Democrats outnumber Republicans 51,000 to 13,000.

Around 56% of those registering are under the age of 34; 20% of them turned 18 or are turning 18 in time for the election.


About 53% of the new voters registering are people of color; all are demographics that traditionally Democrat, though polling has shown Trump making headway with them in some cases.

——-

Biden won GA by 11,000 votes. Georgia is no longer red.

and we haven’t even factored in Roe vs Wade.

Kamala and Walz just way too beige for most people by all accounts.

Fuck Trump all day everyday, but he's somehow managed to serve as some sort of foil to what a lot of people look at as a party of snobs and has clearly ingratiated himself to the "every" man (despite EVERYTHING we know about him). Hell of a trick.

The narrative around Kamala and Walz seems a lot more positive than it ever did around Biden.

Trump was seen as fumbling it miserably, biden was seen as a steady hand.

He still got 74 million votes

Pandemic is an afterthought for most, but there aren't many people who think biden came in and 'fixed' it all.

Whatever improvements there have been, this admin has done a piss poor job of communicating it, and there's nothing really separating Kamala from the Biden admin other than she's young. I think she's done well so far, but her biggest selling point is being not Trump. Hopefully that's enough

Most people aren't on the internet being loud and wrong so that type of talk leads to delusion.

Most people recognize Biden wasn't a selfish POS who needs blind loyalty.

Trump has a shit ton of his loyal followers serving jail sentences.

Biden couldn't articulate his accomplishments because he aged out. Kamala has done a great job telling America what they did,

but what you and some others need to realize is the VP is not the President. She breaks the tie in congress.

Anyone running against Trump is going to have their biggest selling point not being Trump. That's the whole gotdamn point.

>Biden couldn't articulate his accomplishments because he aged
>out. Kamala has done a great job telling America what they
>did,

Didn't have to be Biden himself, and I don't really agree that she's done a great job of conveying that. I really think the only person who has been good at this is Mayor Pete.

>
>but what you and some others need to realize is the VP is not
>the President. She breaks the tie in congress.

Lol @ "what you and others need to realize" i know what a VP does.
She's in a weird place because she wants to be her own person but she's obviously tied to this administration. If she had done such a great job of big upping his accomplishments, she could walk in on fumes (could still happen).

>
>Anyone running against Trump is going to have their biggest
>selling point not being Trump. That's the whole gotdamn point.

I didn't say biggest selling point. I said only real selling point. She's the biden administration in different packaging. I'm fine with that, I just can't speak for swing state voters

the fact she isn't an 80 year old white man is a selling point.

being a former AG, prosecutor, senator and VP.

Polls have been weird to me before Biden dropped out and after so hard to really say.

I do think she added some energy that was severely lacking which I think means what we saw in the midterms will continue.

Don't think it's a given though.

Like, whatever services are available, I can’t imagine how he wouldn’t qualify?

I know that dumbasses and racists abound, but do we really have that much more of them since 2020? He gets dumber, older, and more insane every year.

Biden wasn’t even an exciting candidate, and he won easily because he wasn’t Trump.

Kamala seems like she’d be far more exciting to the women at least. How can she not win? The other guy is literally the worst candidate of all time and it’s not close.

But that subject line made me laugh.

i know that's not the proper way to say it, but I seriously think his brain is highly impaired at this point.

Like, if he was living on his own, isolated, with no help…..could he even find a grocery store, buy food, and then go home and make himself a sandwich for lunch? I have my doubts.

you pussies lol

My brother

go find a safe space and rage out

When you're a slob

I'm sorry I disagreed with you to drive you to this point.

was it retarded or pussies that upset you this much?

You're dumb

going off on tangents and now hurling personal attacks.

I'll do you a favor though I'll stop posting in your echo chamber, enjoy the Harris/Walz regime.

Allan Lictman said she's winning so she's winning. Argue with his 90% win rate.

Y'all are underestimating outrage in this country. This administration basically got away from scrutiny on this illegal immigrant debacle, the economy, and other issues.

It will be a close election and y'all democrat supporters better hope it doesn't come down to independents. She needs all support to win. Let's see if all the groups she prioritized for aid save her.

for why she should lose

we know your type

>for why she should lose
>
>we know your type

I mentioned criticisms. Vice President Harris can earn my vote right now if she wants it.

But I've got a bad feeling. A lotta supposed progressives are finding dumb things to complain about and it feels a lot like 2016.

In more direct terms: AZ is gone. GA is looking more and more remote. Our one good chance of a pickup is NC, and that isn't trending well. I could imagine the hurricane shifting the vote in GA or NC, but that could honestly go in either direction.

So once again, we need to win WI, MI, and PA. We appear to be ahead in each of them, but all of them are within the margin of error, and if just one of them doesn't go as expected, we lose. (I wasn't a fan of Josh Shapiro, but I'm starting to think his boosters were right.)

If we win those three, and the Nebraska district, we win the EC 270 to 268. And then we get to see just how much worse the Jan 6 riots could have been.

Win or lose, it ain't looking good.

Women were the biggest group among these newly registered voters, so that's good.

Also ballot initiatives related to Reproductive rights should help drive out more voters who are likely to vote blue

cautiously optimistic, anything can still happen

It was getting national coverage as his triumphant return to the site of the assassination attempt, and his big push in the state that's probably going to decide the election. He probably drew his biggest crowd of the cycle.

And now the only thing that people are talking about is Elon Musk jumping around on stage like a hyperactive four-year-old.

And they’re up there kissing each other’s asses. All because they both hate people with dark skin. Fucking weirdos.

This is some of the stupidest shit I’ve ever seen.

>RE: Trump hates EVs, said he should bow to him, and called him Leon

https://x.com/SonnyBunch/status/1842724785408651762

might be the day Trump lost the election

Elon hight AF

With the goofier look

>https://x.com/SonnyBunch/status/1842724785408651762
>
>might be the day Trump lost the election
>
>Elon hight AF

https://www.yahoo.com/news/elon-musk-mom-goes-dark-172456150.html

make up 10 fake names and vote 10 times..

smh

They all will in due time. Musk and many others will have a lot to answer to as well on some Alex Jones steeze

>https://www.yahoo.com/news/elon-musk-mom-goes-dark-172456150.html
>
>make up 10 fake names and vote 10 times..
>
>smh

laugh now..

but they know.

Elon taking his argument to the Supreme Court that his First Amendment rights were hindered by the order to not disclose that the DOJ obtained a warrant for Trump's Twitter DMs

In his speech in Butler, Elon made the false connection between the First Amendment and the Second Amendment. So basically he is kind of instigating a little with the crowd, getting them to connect armed resistance with people who view themselves as having the free speech rights violated.

This is the type of shit people who tie themselves to Trump end up doing: digging themselves into legal quagmires through desperation.

He is going to use Twitter and his wealth and influence to inflame election rhetoric if Kamala wins, and possibly push for violence. Not sure the proper preparations are being made by government agencies (I cringe saying this lol)

>They all will in due time. Musk and many others will have a
>lot to answer to as well on some Alex Jones steeze
>
>>https://www.yahoo.com/news/elon-musk-mom-goes-dark-172456150.html
>>
>>make up 10 fake names and vote 10 times..
>>
>>smh
>

and she was still defiant at sentencing.

“I’m a child of God so I shouldn’t be jailed”

this dude knows these evangelicals will drink the koolaid and demand seconds. Hundreds if not thousands have been arrested and jailed for this fool.

shit is a gotdamn cult.

https://www.newsweek.com/tina-peters-former-colorado-county-clerk-9-year-sentence-trump-1963513

all of them are praying he wins and pardons them. That shit aint happening.

Is she a Christian anarchist?

How does she feel about race?

What should done with derelicts that can’t be rehabilitated? Kill them?

I guess there might not be good answers for my questions coming from her, but I don’t mind being against jail in theory.

She deserved all of it and more. Dumbasses don't realize presidents can't pardon state crimes, so praying for a Trump win doesn't help them. Fuck all of these treasonous cunts.

Judge helped her Find Out.

So far so good and Howard is definitely for her and against Trump. His fans are going to have a coronary.. again.

Howard's been a Dem since Obama, and has only dug in more over the years, shitting on Trump supporters at every turn

It's a trippy turn around for him... he went neo-con after 9/11 at least on foreign policy

Was always socially liberal but the amount of racist shit Howard used to spit in his early years (which was quite a bit) has been pretty much forgiven/forgotten



>So far so good and Howard is definitely for her and against
>Trump. His fans are going to have a coronary.. again.

I should have said “the remaining fans he has left.” Which is still evidentially in the millions.

>Howard's been a Dem since Obama, and has only dug in more
>over the years, shitting on Trump supporters at every turn
>
>It's a trippy turn around for him... he went neo-con after
>9/11 at least on foreign policy
>
>Was always socially liberal but the amount of racist shit
>Howard used to spit in his early years (which was quite a bit)
>has been pretty much forgiven/forgotten
>
>
>
>>So far so good and Howard is definitely for her and against
>>Trump. His fans are going to have a coronary.. again.
>

interviewing Kamala isn't any kind of shift for him. It's been clear who he supports in this election

his current/remaining listeners clearly aren't bothered by his politics. They're not waiting for him to go back to slapping strippers asses with fish

those people been gone

>interviewing Kamala isn't any kind of shift for him. It's
>been clear who he supports in this election
>
>his current/remaining listeners clearly aren't bothered by his
>politics. They're not waiting for him to go back to slapping
>strippers asses with fish
>
>those people been gone
>

There’s still old school fans who are rabid aholes and being on the show isn’t going to make them vote for her even if Stern is. I was just saying. And just saying many if those who are still with him are against her and her being in which many comments in sights have stated. So let them have for coronaries because not all his fans left are progressive peaceniks as you claim.

>>not all his fans left are progressive
>peaceniks as you claim.

I said his fans are well aware of his current political leanings and have been for some time, so generally anyone who would so triggered by a kamala interview, is long gone

>>>not all his fans left are progressive
>>peaceniks as you claim.
>
>I said his fans are well aware of his current political
>leanings and have been for some time, so generally anyone who
>would so triggered by a kamala interview, is long gone
>

And I’m saying they aren’t all gone. Comments about his show and her coming on show that. The end. Geezus.

This is so fucking sickening and infuriating. Will these pieces of shit ever learn. Leave it to dems to take any energy and enthusiasm/momentum they had and set it on fucking fire for ... reasons ?

https://x.com/samstein/status/1843677657524846982?s=46

why vote for her if Republicans will be advising her? just vote for the Republicans...

She's obviously not talking about Trump supporters.

Progressives are not an electoral majority in this country. And every time we throw a tantrum and pretend we are, we lose.

>RE: Was it sickening & infuriating when Obama had Republicans in his cabinet?


>She's obviously not talking about Trump supporters.

Obviously.


>Progressives are not an electoral majority in this country.
>And every time we throw a tantrum and pretend we are, we lose.

Who said we were ? We are *part* of an electoral majority, tho. And growing, quickly.

>We are *part* of an electoral majority,
>tho. And growing, quickly.

No, we really aren't. Unless, of course, you're willing to include **some of the dummies who would like an administration to be bipartisan!** Of course they're wrong, but it doesn't change the fact that we need their votes.

the whole reason for Walz is because he is supposedly folksy and can win over older repubs and midwestern independents

And they belong nowhere near power under a dem presidency.


>the whole reason for Walz is because he is supposedly folksy and can win over older repubs and midwestern independents

Picking a folksy midwestern *democrat* for VP =/ tapping a full on repuglican for your cabinet.

but I think what some fail to see is some of these GOP folk are not fucking with Trump AT ALL.

This idea that Dems can do it all by themselves is a pipe dream. That isn’t how DC works.

>but I think what some fail to see is some of these GOP folk
>are not fucking with Trump AT ALL.
>
>This idea that Dems can do it all by themselves is a pipe
>dream. That isn’t how DC works.

... pandering to reasonable repugs in swing states (a task which Walz ostensibly has covered), and agreeing to put a damn republican in your cabinet. The thing I always come back to is that I know dozens of reasonable, more moderate republicans in state politics who *loathe* trump. I may disagree with them on just about every single possible thing under the sun, but these people at the very least have brains enough to know that trump is a nazi authoritarian wannabe dumb fuck, and so they act accordingly.

But those people are not Republicans in the capital letter/national sense, in that once you reach the point of being a Nationally Known Republican, you have to toe the party line. And the party line right now is fascism. So why would Harris or any democrat even consider *saying* something this dumb, nevermind consider doing it ? To my mind all it does is alienate your own base. Myself included. I won't withhold my vote for her, but I know some people who might. And I can't imagine they're alone.

I just don't think it was or ever is necessary for her or any other dem to pander to these people *that fucking hard*. Who asked for this ?!

Not to mention that if she actually goes thru with it, she risks impacting her own agenda by having a repug who will undoubtedly do repug things in that position. Why ?!?? Why do dems so desperately want to just voluntarily hand over power to these horrible people. I'll never understand it.

Harris needs to get out there and start promising no tax on random things too. No tax on food. No tax on gass. No tax on Air Force Ones

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/10/10/trump-car-loan-tax-deductible-harris-election.html

Donald Trump on Thursday will support making interest on car loans fully tax deductible, the latest in a suite of tax-cut promises the Republican presidential nominee has made in the weeks before Election Day.

Trump, in a speech to the Detroit Economic Club, will compare the plan to an existing tax deduction on mortgage interest, according to excerpts provided beforehand by the Trump campaign.

When tax revenue is cut it has to be made up with taxes elsewhere, cuts to services, or fees.

Trump will use of combination of the last two and these suckers with new car payments, TAX FREE, will pay higher registration fees, and newly installed tolls.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/a-trump-backed-bible-seems-a-suspicious-fit-for-oklahoma-s-narrow-school-text-criteria/ar-AA1rIoXZ

nothing to see here. just a little indoctrination.

the bibles are also made in china for $3, but sold here for $60.

crazy shit

i would love to see some trumpers asked about his anti-Chinese stance re: his bibles being made in China for three bucks then sold to you doofs for sixty.

FUCK I HATE IT - how did 10s of millions of Americans lose all common sense?

making excuses for why it isn't hypocritical and a spit in the face of USA manufacturing.

heard the print is all fucked up and hard to read and some of the pages are stuck together and rip when you try to separate them.

but none of that matters.

Trump supporters see a businessman who is just doing business the smart way.

Deep down they know this fool is lying to them but they are in too deep.

and listen to dummies on facebook or unknowingly spread white supremacists who were paid by russia you could keep up.

He's losing and needs money for appeals

that is some weirdo shit and has to be his last chance at a huge money grift.

Why else would he hold a rally in NYC right before the election?

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/09/us/politics/trump-presidential-transition.html


Just like last time he's not bothering with actually trying to run the government.

Last time: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presidential_transition_of_Donald_Trump

Still not endorsing Harris. (And they got exactly JACK SHIT form either campaign because of how they did it.)


Pro-Palestinian ‘Uncommitted’ Group Comes Out Firmly Against Trump
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/08/us/politics/palestine-uncommitted-trump.html

https://x.com/uncommittedmvmt/status/1843642889823498488

Uncommitted, the national group of Arab Americans, Muslim Americans and Palestinian rights activists that emerged from primary-season voters protesting President Biden’s Middle East policy, took a big step Tuesday toward encouraging supporters to vote for Vice President Kamala Harris.

In a video detailing the plans and suggestions of Trump advisers to expel or displace Palestinians from the West Bank and Gaza, Lexi Zeidan, a Dearborn, Mich., resident and co-founder of the group, stopped short of endorsing Ms. Harris. But she concluded, “We have to orient less toward who is the better candidate and more toward what is the better antiwar approach in building our collective power.”

The message, posted on all major social media platforms, was a marked shift for the group, which has made significant demands of Ms. Harris with little result. Those demands have included an arms embargo against Israel, prominent speaking slots for Palestinian rights groups at the Democratic convention and a change to the party’s platform that would move U.S. foreign policy away from Israel.

But in the video, Ms. Zeidan, a Palestinian American, bluntly said a second term for former President Donald J. Trump would be worse than a Harris victory. She detailed how Mr. Trump tilted U.S. foreign policy strongly toward the Israeli government in his first term and floated plans that “effectively dismantled any pathway to Palestinian self-determination.”

The video takes particular aim at Project 2025, the Heritage Foundation blueprint for a Republican presidency that was crafted in part by allies of Mr. Trump, who has tried to distance itself from its proposals, which include eliminating humanitarian aid to Gaza and the West Bank while stifling pro-Palestinian protests at home. The video includes clips of David Friedman, Mr. Trump’s former ambassador to Israel, and Jared Kushner, his son-in-law, who have proposed expulsions from Gaza and annexation of the occupied territories by Israel. It also shows a top Trump donor, Miriam Adelson, promising that the former president would pursue the Israeli far right’s policy aims without regard to world opinion.

“It’s clear Netanyahu will be doing everything in his power to get Trump elected,” Ms. Zeidan concluded, referring to Benjamin Netanyahu, the Israeli prime minister. “And we have to do everything in our power to stop him.”

Uncommitted’s shift could be significant in a key swing state, Michigan, which has more than 300,000 residents of Middle Eastern or North African ancestry. Polling of those voters is scant, but anecdotal information indicates many are reluctant to vote for Ms. Harris, and some are shifting to third-party candidates like the Green Party’s Jill Stein.

The Democratic Party of Michigan and the Harris campaign have made overtures intended to bring those voters back into the fold, but the Trump campaign has quietly courted them as well.

Never understood the Pro-Palestinan for Trump angle.


https://x.com/keithedwards/status/1844109702764036515
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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

You have an unqualified white man being put on the same level as a qualified black woman. Make it make sense.


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Trump tends to outperform his polls. I'd want to see Kamala up by alot more.

How they determine who is a 'likely voter' is going to crucial - and not all polls are created equally.

Here's two headlines from Newsweek:

Kamala Harris Is Leading Majority of Battleground States: New Poll
https://www.newsweek.com/kamala-harris-swing-state-poll-trump-1967690

Is Kamala Harris Crumbling in the Polls? Digging Into the Data
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-kamala-harris-polls-swing-states-1967606

It's very close in any matrix, and how the poll runners tweak the data for "Likely voters" and their sampling method -and the margin of errors can change just a little and then giant earthquake inducing headlines will be written.

Trump's going to get 99% of the voters he got last time.
Harris is going to get fewer Biden voters.

It'll be very close.

Meanwhile *some* polls are going to start showing Trump up by 11 because those polls will be FAKE and BOUGHT for by Trump to use after he loses to try to get the election process fucked up.

There will be SOME fake, bought and paid for polls coming out soon designed to make Dems panic and Trump to sow division.

The only thing you can actually do is vote, and try to get your friends and neighbors to vote.

https://www.electoral-vote.com/

They have a feature where you can look at the polls from the same date as whatever day you're looking from the past few elections.

In both 2016 and 2020 Trump was way behind in terms of the electoral college at this point in the campaign. We know how 2016 turned out. And even though he lost in 2020 his final EV margin was way closer than what the polls showed.

He outperforms his polls. She needs to be way, way further out ahead of him than what she is now.

this is why polls ate shit these days.

sample size is too small.

pollster and basically they left out/didn't poll Philadelphia. And then, when pressed, tried to hand wave it away. TIPP just turned their name to mud. Lol.

The fact that they still had Trump up by only 1 pt or whatever and they DIDN'T include fucking Philadelphia....fam.

These crackers are trying to juke the stats.

Since September 30 there have been 32 non-partisan polls and 27 Republican-aligned polls. It's flood the zone with shit time.

It's 2022 all over again.

Look deeper and look broader and put things in context.

Don't let them sell you a horse race featuring a three-legged mule.

Years from now it will come out that she was taking money and being propped up by the Republican Party. Trump doesnt sniff the White House in 2016 without her old grifter ass taking votes in swing states. Same shit is about to play out again. Third party people still fall for her bullshit like idiots. Trump will be the first human to lose the popular vote three times...and he will still be back in the White House. We're fucked.

I doubt she will have any impact on the 2024 election. Anyone that chooses to vote for her was never going to vote for Harris.

When he said that I almost had to look her up to confirm I remembered who she was lol.

runs for Prez in a few states.

Him and a couple other lefty friends of mine are like that. But they are consistent.

Shit I even was on public access interviewing Rosa Clemente when she was running on the Green ticket, on behalf of my organization.

Green Party is good in theory, but not in today's political climate

She is absolutely going to be a factor in swing states, just like 2016. She's admitted to purposefully targeting the middle eastern and "abandon Biden" voters in swing states by using the conflict in the Middle East.

Dems seem intent on trying to do a remix of the 2016 election.

once again largely based on "not being Trump" as their main selling point...rather than campaign on policies that people actually care about ....universal health care, stoping genocide, etc....

so when Dems lose, they can blame Jill Stein and 3rd parties instead of any type of self-reflection. or they can tell themselves the party has gone 'too left' and they should move more to the center......shiiiiiit we already there when Dick Cheney is being thanked for the service he's done to this country.

Green party isn't taking away votes from Harris or Trump....many wouldn't have voted for either.

but sure, call her a grifter....and ignore all the special interest money, Super PACs, and millions of ads where Harris and Trump are pleading for us to send them 'just $5'


https://www.commondreams.org/news/harris-michigan-2024

Harris is campaigning on issues like Abortion, Health Care, Democracy, etc. The "im not Trump" thing is useful at times, but pretending that has been her entire focus makes you sound ignorant as fuck.

Either you are Jill Stein's burner or you believe a person that has accepted campaign donations from LOCKHEED MARTIN, APPLE, MICROSOFT, and AMAZON. And has worked with Trump associated lawyers and Republicans to appear on ballots in swings states, dined with Putin, and pops up every four years to raise money for a no-chance Presidency...is somehow not a grifter and a noble person. Its weird that Jill Stein has never bothered to run for Congress or Public Office during the three or so years in between always playing the narcissistic third party spoiler. Youd think if she was the champion you believe she is, shed take on some sort of role in the law making process....rather than pull the grift.

I mean, does she have any meaningful political or electoral wins in the past 8 years?

The answer is no, and anybody with any want of America still being a viable country post election knows not to trust nor vote for her.

you can't explain that

Stein apologists like "but she wasn't charged"

AND?

What the fuck she doing there at all?

shit looked like the horseshoe summit

I guess this was for the CHIP Act but repubs are saying it mocks communion

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2024/10/10/michigan-gretchen-whitmer-feeds-podcaster-liz-plank-dorito-chip-in-viral-video-tiktok-kamala-harris/75616482007/

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DA8lS2sP-Rv/?igsh=eG03d2s0ZTA0OGl1

from some of the clips she's back to word salading again.
I'll have to check a couple in long form to get a real idea but most people just watch clips.

But remember she's SENILE and is shitting her pants.


JESUS, can anything ever be good enough for people?

I'm already voting for her, calm down

but I'm not the person who needs to be convinced, it's people watching this stuff and saying they both suck and staying home

(scolding them isn't gonna work either btw)

but she's fortunite to be running against Trump because i feel like someone like Nicki Haley night be crushing her right now. If he loses again they really have to finally purge this guy

I've been scolded often for expressing my issues with Biden/Harris....and I gotta say, its working....I'm like 2 or 3 scoldings away from voting ALL BLUE down the line.

I'm slowly going from being horrified by the genocide to celebrating the 'Joy'-ocide....from "Free Palestine" to "meh, Palestine"

so I think folks should keep scolding....tell me how dumb I am, how pointless it is to care about genocide, the environment or the pandemic....remind me I'm that I'm not someone with my own ideas, experiences or pain, I'm just a bot or burner account.

It's infuriating that people are nit picking the SHIT out of her AND not doing the same for Trump.

First she doesn't talk enough.

Then when she does a great job it's "Will it last??"

Then she talks a BUNCH and maybe she talks like a human and isn't perfect for 8 hours out of 8 hours of tape and not it's WORD SALAD DAYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Stop focusing on shit that doesn't matter. It doesn't MATTER. Focus on Trump tlaking about shutting down all broadcast news outlets.


>Nicki Haley night be crushing her right now

Hey, that's NOT what's happening right now, so stop dwelling on it.

Focus on reality - compare her to Trump not her to PERFECT. Because right now she's running AGAINST Trump. And not against Perfect (which Nikki Haley is not.)

EDIT: Oh I see NY Post and a ton of other outlets have used phrase "Word salad" hundreds of times in the last few days. They are putting in the zeitgeist and hammering it over and over.

It's working. (Meanwhile see link about Trump.)

Don't let them fool you.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-grocery-detroit-speech_n_67082b48e4b0c34b3eba59b5

Speaking to a crowd at the Detroit Economic Club on Thursday, former President Donald Trump explained what the word “grocery” means ― or at least what it means to him.

“I have more complaints on grocery,” Trump, the GOP presidential nominee, said Thursday at the Motor City Casino. “The word ‘grocery,’ it’s a sort of simple word. But it sort of means, like, everything you eat. The stomach is speaking, it always does. And I have more complaints about that ― bacon, and things going up double, triple, quadruple.”

One day before making these remarks, Trump had described his Democratic rival, Vice President Kamala Harris, as “virtually incoherent.”

Elsewhere in his nearly three-hour address on Thursday, Trump said he plans to “defeat inflation and make America affordable again,” and that he will “cut taxes, slash regulations” and “curb wasteful spending.” He proposed an approach involving no taxes on tips, no taxes on overtime, and no taxes on Social Security benefits for seniors.

He also offered other ramblings about “the failing New York Times,” his daughter Tiffany’s pregnancy, and the car industry.

The former president called Harris “dumber than hell,” and complained about CBS’s recent “60 Minutes” interview with Harris, alleging that the network deceptively edited the broadcast. He also mentioned that Tesla CEO Elon Musk gave him the “most powerful endorsement” after Musk joined Trump at a rally last week.

he acknowledged Tiffany

Pouncing on people and screaming BUT TRUMP

>Don't let them fool you.
>

Fool what? I'm voting for her. She's always been bad at this sort of thing... its why people were initially worried about her replacing Joe... she's exceeded expectations, but let's not act like "word salad" is just some right wing invention that ben shapiro just recently jedi mind tricked people into saying.

She's an accomplished woman resume wise but she sofunds like W sometimes. Yes Trump is 1000x worse by every measure, but it doesn't mean we have to treat her like she's perfect, or you can't point out if her answer to an interview question was bad

>Pouncing on people and screaming BUT TRUMP

You need to thank Democratic leadership for doing the IMPOSSIBLE and having Biden drop out AND for not allowing an open primary process.

Those actions were not normal - and any missteps would have been fatal.

>Yes Trump is 1000x worse by every measure, but it doesn't mean we have to treat her like she's perfect,

We are 30 days form the election, what is jumping on her for not being perfect going to accomplish?

She'll attain PERFECTION immediately?

There's NO upside in repeating terms being pushed by cynically by the other side.

You'll have 4 years to drag her down -or- 'My Fair Lady' her into perfection.

The time to criticize Biden was BEFORE he won all the primaries. (It was astonishing that he chose to drop out.)

The time to nitpick Kamala is not now. (And not in the first 100 days.)


What is there to gain?

I really don't know what the big problem is here. bringing this up on a nearly dead message board full of non-trump voters isn't affecting anything.

But potential voters do see these clips and it should be concerning however unfair that might be. And if you think pouncing on them or telling them how dumb and gullible they are is an effective strategy, well good luck with that

It’s just unfathomable to me that anyone could be on the fence here.

how could anyone with a brain not be motivated to vote against Trump at this point? He’s horrific and not even attempting to hide it. He’s running on pure racism this time, and pretty much nothing else.

the reason that many folks call out democrats and liberals more than they do for Trump/MAGA is because Dems/libearls claim to care about basic rights, justice and inclusion....so there is a slim chance at speaking truth to power...Trump and the far-right are clear that they don't care about those things and are against them, so it's a non-starter.

being critical of Democrats isn't an endorsement for Trump or carrying water for their talking points...if someone is not voting for Harris because of her unwavering support of a genocide or her pro-police/prison policies it's disingenuous to think that they wouldn't have even more hatred for Trump and the far-right.


I've spoken with friends about Biden's mental decline for years, and was often told that I was just repeating MAGA talking points....and I'm like nah, I'm using my ears, brain and critical thinking abilities....his mental decline or Kamala's ability to say a whole lot of nothing only become republican talking points because most liberals/media don't want to acknowledge or address it until it became too hard to ignore.


in closing, FUCK TRUMP

so I understand what she's saying.

get out of your feelings

n/m

brother does a mean curl

makes all this bullshit

And so are the other people on “her side”.

Nitpicking is pointless in this one. She could be the second worst candidate of all time(she’s not), and still be a billion times better choice than that piece of shit.

i've seen most everything she's done in the last couple weeks.

i need to see what people call "word salad" cuz this seems like some made up bullshit at this point.

"Whitaker: But it seems that Prime Minister Netanyahu is not listening.

Harris: Well, Bill, the work that we have done has resulted in a number of movements in that region by Israel that were very much prompted by, or a result of, many things, including our advocacy for what needs to happen in the region."

This was what 60m has in their preview video and was edited out for something more coherent
I don't think its a big scandal as the right claims becuase they have to cut all interviews down. but I didn't understand why they would release a preview for something they wont put in the final cut. Especially when that later answer made her look better.

Her answers on immigration weren't very good.
Her answer on why she's flip flopped on so many issues was messy though i got what she was saying.
He kept having to ask her to answer the actual question.

And yes i get it, Trump is worse, far worse. But its a trip how Everyone seemed to acknowledge she was bad at this sort of thing before she was the nominee, now anyone who brings it up is falling for right wing propaganda

sounds like something a lawyer would say...

not answering a question in a direct way is not word salad.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/word%20salad

the replacement answer wasn't much better

but let's go with technically a bunch of words that don't actually say anything arent word salad. she's just like a lawyer. Ok

dodging a question with a non answer is not word salad.

sorry.

That's a burger with cheese on it.

If you're nervous about how a PoC will be judged vs her white counterparts just say so.

I know YOU are not worried about her competence? So why worry for other people

>If you're nervous about how a PoC will be judged vs her white
>counterparts just say so.

I'm not sure where you pulled this assumption from.

>I know YOU are not worried about her competence? So why worry
>for other people

It's an election. People need to vote for her

Not trying to speculate what you think though

don't let the devil put these thoughts in your head

this was the same thing people did with the talk of Biden's decline, if you commented on it people would pounce and scold you for being duped by right wing talking points and deceptive editing

if *I* can speculate, I think a lot of people are being dishonest with themselves that she's somehow nailing this, because they feel the stakes are too high not to. She crushed in the debate, was solid in the convention, but since then... ehh.

I don't expect george clooney to write an op-ed on her. I dont think she's *that* bad, and i get very few people can be Obama, but i can see why she's avoided interviews to this point

When voters know what is on the other side of the ballot seems unnecessary, but let's say there is a good reason to point our flaws in how she fields questions

Is this to point out she needs to have better premade answers, stop doing interviews entirely, or is she just not a good speaker, what is your conclusion?

Is your larger point she may lose, because that's always been a very possible outcome

>When voters know what is on the other side of the ballot
>seems unnecessary, but let's say there is a good reason to
>point our flaws in how she fields questions

If this is a close race, and i have no idea if it actually will be, its gonna come down to turnout. I'm gonna vote for her no matter what, despite not being crazy about her but i have to wonder how people who may or may not vote look at her, and think what's the point?
I'm not sure why people are so bothered by even bringing up if she sounds bad in an interview as if it's either some kind of heresy, or i must be duped by evil right wingers into thinking that

>Is this to point out she needs to have better premade answers,
>stop doing interviews entirely, or is she just not a good
>speaker, what is your conclusion?

It would be nice if she were able to answer a question she doesn't have a canned answer to. I dont think it's alot to ask from someone who wants to be president. She benefits from her opponent being worse, but i dont think judging her on her own is that big a deal, but given the ratio in here, it apparently is lol

But it comes across you are 'more ok' with it than other people on here (hence the ratio lol)

My pushback on your Kamala critique is not an issue of it's a product of right wing influence in this case. It's challenging the acceptance of an opposing point of view at all, when the current real life opponent doesn't really have a leg to stand on, morally or ideologically.

We don't have to look at a non-answer and say damn this candidate sucks. Compared to what? The ideal candidate is not here and will not be making a surprise appearance. I don't think MAGA is critical of their guy at all. Why would you be at all critical of her fielding of an interview question when her opponent is a hundred times worse on every front.

Of course it's a legitimate take and you have the right to it. I'm just explaining the pushback

Who cares? What does it matter at this point? She’s the option, and that’s it. What are we talking about? Why?

>But it comes across you are 'more ok' with it than other
>people on here (hence the ratio lol

I'm not as terrified of him winning as I was in 16/20 not because i find him any less dangerous as i did. Part of that is cope and never wanting that 2016 feeling back. But am I less freaked out over him as other people here? Idk... I think it'll suck but i dont think America will end, so, maybe. I'm def less "left" than a lot of people here, even though i find the right worse.. i wish i could have a constant 'we're good and theyre evil', mindset and apply it to every single thing (not saying thats you but i see it quite a bit, and ive been guilty of it myself). But I'm also not gonna get in pointless arguments over everything I don't agree with.

I just in a general sense hate the idea that I should pretend i don't see something i see out of some sense of duty. If the maga people can't recognize the flaws in great leader, that's them. Just shows they're even more forbidden to talk out of turn

Again this is what was being done with the biden thing. Pointing out his cognitive decline was an impure thought that needed to be extinguished. You can't say that because Rogan or Megyn Kelly said that.. you don't want to agree with them, right?

Its done with alot of issues.. You need to shut up about Y because X is worse.... why are you even talking about Y now? What's wrong with you?

Not sure why, she stunk it up in an interview (with or without disclaimers that Trump is worse) is such a big deal but that's just me

>

how can you not be less terrified of a man who tried to stop the transfer of power

says legal immigrants are eating dogs

says all immigrants are rapist and murderers

told proud boys to stand down

says he will be a dictator on day one

still refuses to admit he lost 2020

and hangs out with every type of racist you can imagine?

but you are less terrified of him now?

That's weird my man.. real weird.

black and brown people are being targeted by the nominee for the president and vice president of the united states. Trump has sworn to enact the Alien and Sedition Act of 1798 to be able to target American citizens. That's what was used to round up Japanese citizens during WWII.

But maybe you missed that clip and his subsequent written statement. You seem to miss a lot unless it's served up to you by your algorithm or your shitty friends' facebook posts.

In the last 48 hours, Trump and Vance and their underlings like Stephen Miller have ramped up their anti-immigrant, rhetoric to blood libel levels. They're events have recently become more akin to lynch mobs not political rallies with audience members yelling "kill them!" as speakers shit on black and brown people here illegally and legally. But you're less terrified.

Just a few weeks ago the nominees for president and vice president of the united states in conjunction with the right wing media and the right wing political apparatus stoked a stochastic terror campaign against Haitian migrants here legally in Springfield, Ohio over what they knew and admitted were outright lies. They were successful in terrorizing that community to the point that schools and services were shut down due to death threats. But you're less terrified.

Women are being arrested and women being left to die and at least a couple have actually died because of they've sought or been able to get abortion access. But you're less terrified.


But there are very real consequences for very real people. People thought it wouldn't be so bad the last time and damn near a million people died on his watch because he let them. I know people who died from covid, I know people who died because they couldn't get access to medical care they needed because the hospitals were overrun and they just had to let cancer eat them. I know I spent two years protecting my mom who just came out of chemo when covid hit. I know how terrified I was. I remember the morgue trucks and the paupers graves.

I know women who've needed abortion because of inviable pregnancies who've had to travel to a different state to get an abortion. I've seen how terrified she was.

You're looking in the face of unfettered fascism and saying, "Not so bad"

You're looking in the face of all those people who have suffered and will suffer and say "Couldn't be me"

So no, it's not a purity failing. It's a moral one.

“back home to mommy.. to get the hell knocked out of her!”

this dude is fucking sick

my apologies

its amazing how much white people can get away with and how much Black people are okay with them getting away with while holding Black folk to the highest of standards.

and people went apeshit, scolding, name calling, making strange assumptions

I said repeatedly I'm voting for her and that he's far worse. I never said im "ok" with him winning as claimed above, i said im not gonna go through what i went through in 2016, and that admittedly part of that is cope.
but anything short of saying him winning will be the end of humanity is apparently unacceptable

not sure what people stand to gain by this continuous lecturing for someone im already voting for other than feeling holier than thou or as a warning to people who dare think about saying anything remotely critical of her

.

You cry a lot

no one is crying. I'm not trying to make some grand statement. I asked a fuckn question based on an observation, and scolds descended.
The funny thing is you were one of the only ones who relpied without being a dickhead about it, but hey so much for that.

sorry for not complying, guys.

I just feel like you still don't see why you are getting these responses

is her vagueness around critical policy issues. She's all over the place on key issues from medicare for all to immigration and foreign policy. Nobody really knows what her actual positions are in a myriad of areas- because honestly I don't even think she really knows herself where she actually stands beyond the crafted, premeditated default answers that clearly have been meticulously worded with careful, non committal legalese.

She definitely got an initial bounce merely by not being Joe Biden and offering a fresh voice/face in a tired presidential field, but I'm amazed that she and her team *still* haven't solved the problems that plagued them in 2020 with what crashed and burned in ugly fashion. Might not matter as now it's simply a binary good v. evil choice for a large swath of deeply partisan/divided Americans, but her campaign has been really underwhelming outside some really strong moments in the debate. Trump has been vulnerable (and has run a horrible campaign himself) and failed to adapt ever since Biden dropped out, and I feel like Harris really had/has a chance to exploit that, but the strategy seems to be just to play out the clock, let Trump fall on his sword, and hope for a win by default (for simply not being Trump/Biden).

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this mfr tried to stop congress from certifying an election and Black
men are just shrugging.

My friends son called him parroting these lies and he is HOT. Some of our men really love white power.

I just think Black men don’t trust a woman and prefer a fucking liar and POS bully over a Black woman.

Shit is sad when you see how the bar is raised high af for her and lowered under the earth for Trump.

pretty sure you ain't Black

…the greater evil of yesterday

https://x.com/saulwilliams/status/1844939082419302478?s=46&t=r5nXf9e1NdkaCj8YPwS8Fw

The "greater evil of yesterday" isn't running. The"greater evil of today", is. And he's FAR worse than the "greater evil of yesterday."

The purpose of an election isn't to fix the world. It's to pick the president. Fixing the world is harder.

https://x.com/impattipolitics

Brother, this is not the way.

You clearly didn't live through Bush, so that means you don't know about Reagan or Nixonand the list could go on.

Real talk. How old are you and where are you from?


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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

I clearly didn't live thru Bush?

you mean Bush & Cheney who are now being embraced, celebrated and thanked by Harris and liberals?

da fuq you talking bout??

and real talk, why are you so obsessed with my age and location? this is Okayplayer...not AIM

and she's been worse than i expected. so it goes. vance newsom 2028? looking back, the best shot to beat trump may have been newsom going hard in the paint, making noise about open convention. i don't like newsom, but of the field, he's the only one with juice. trump bodied the republican party in 2016. hillary is very smart, knows all the arguments and can rattle them off fluently...and she lost. kamala bodies herself in softball interviews. this shit is basic math. she talks in odd empty associationist political cliches. over and over. she is a confused person who doesn't know what to say. she has anti-charisma.

get mad. idgaf. no one is excited, no one has become a convert. the autoworkers said nah. a lot of people do that sorta grimace breath in through the teeth when she comes up. hey maybe she wins but my god... terrible candidate. it all happened before, remember, in 2020 primary. she spent her time as VP doing...i have no idea what. but vp in general is a holding cell, not a place for the action that makes someone with hazy notions of self and purpose a great leader. and now here we are. you know how some people, you start cold on them but the more you get to know them, the more you like them? kamala is the opposite of that. for most people anyway, political geniuses of okp, of course, excepted.

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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

look at the post count

https://imgur.com/a/s9EojRW

November thud

since he's not gonna primary Kamala

Newsom vs Vance sounds like a genuine sleaze-off

and i really don't wanna have to vote for this guy a third time :(

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/musk-pac-signature-47-pay-refer-swing-state-voters-sign-petition-rcna174310

Elon Musk’s pro-Trump America PAC is offering people $47 if they successfully get one registered swing-state voter to sign a petition supporting the First and Second Amendments of the Constitution.

“Easy money,” Musk said in a post about the initiative.

The payout offer appears to be a way to financially encourage voter registration of individuals who might prefer Republican candidate Donald Trump in swing states. Paying individuals directly to register to vote is illegal, but America PAC’s petition appears to skirt laws that forbid certain types of election-related payments, paying referrers of registered voters instead. Both Musk and America PAC have vocally encouraged swing-state voter registration ahead of the mandatory deadlines. A representative of America PAC declined to comment.

The monetary offer was widely shared on X, Musk’s social media platform.

Over the weekend, X repurposed the account handle “@america,” which used to belong to a different account, for Musk’s America PAC. It is labeled as an official X organization. The account has since promoted the pro-Constitution petition, swing-state voter registration and the $47 offer.

“I’ve not seen anything like this,” said Dr. Richard Hasen, a professor at UCLA School of Law and an NBC News election law analyst. “He has mobilized the platform to be in Trump’s corner in a way that is far more blatant and direct than anything we’ve seen from any other social media platform or traditional media platform.”

>https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/musk-pac-signature-47-pay-refer-swing-state-voters-sign-petition-rcna174310
>
>Elon Musk’s pro-Trump America PAC is offering people $47 if
>they successfully get one registered swing-state voter to sign
>a petition supporting the First and Second Amendments of the
>Constitution.
>
>“Easy money,” Musk said in a post about the initiative.
>
>The payout offer appears to be a way to financially encourage
>voter registration of individuals who might prefer Republican
>candidate Donald Trump in swing states. Paying individuals
>directly to register to vote is illegal, but America PAC’s
>petition appears to skirt laws that forbid certain types of
>election-related payments, paying referrers of registered
>voters instead. Both Musk and America PAC have vocally
>encouraged swing-state voter registration ahead of the
>mandatory deadlines. A representative of America PAC declined
>to comment.
>
>The monetary offer was widely shared on X, Musk’s social
>media platform.
>
>Over the weekend, X repurposed the account handle
>“@america,” which used to belong to a different account,
>for Musk’s America PAC. It is labeled as an official X
>organization. The account has since promoted the
>pro-Constitution petition, swing-state voter registration and
>the $47 offer.
>
>“I’ve not seen anything like this,” said Dr. Richard
>Hasen, a professor at UCLA School of Law and an NBC News
>election law analyst. “He has mobilized the platform to be
>in Trump’s corner in a way that is far more blatant and
>direct than anything we’ve seen from any other social media
>platform or traditional media platform.”

I'm asking because it's becoming increasingly clear (to people outside the US at least) that she ain't it.

We're watching with horror wondering how a race against someone as stupendously idiotic and vile as Trump...can be so close.

School me.

Not saying she is clearly going to win, but there isn't a clearly better candidate to have run.

She's run as good of a campaign as I could have imagined.

If she loses, she I think it will be because folks have once again underestimated how racist and sexist this country is.

Since Obama, I haven't wished the Presidency on a black person since. I don't think it's worth it. If she loses, I want Dems to stick to Southern White who served in the military, runs a business and Maaaybe has a PoC wife or adopted kids.



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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

if Harris hadn't gotten the nomination, apart from maybe if they'd had an open convention and someone else got it that way.

and Kamala was kinda on the ticket already.

republicans would not have made it easy to have an open convention (threatening lawsuits) and all the infighting to get on the ballot would have been a mess for the democratic party

Clinton lost to the same person and Biden won a close one.

Half the people voting are racist and stupid.

and Kamala is playing down to competition.

Exactly

and lets be real, she raised a Billion dollars. Clearly she is doing great at the most important part of being a politician.. FUNDRAISING.

Will she win? I hope so but let’s not act like there is another politician out there besides Obama who could be up 10 points in the polls with 5 months of campaigning.

If you live in America no one has to school you. Half this country is filled with idiots who want to follow the loud and wrong crowd.

maybe the only thing that MIGHT have changed in light of another candidate is how the media treats Trump.

his people are truly a cult at this point, and they're gonna cult. the media writes off the completely never seen before insane shit as "trump being trump" at this point.

and guess what, even they do have critiques for Trump? don't matter, because he's gotten 10s of millions of people to not give a shit what the media reports especially if it has any sniff of a critique of the human Cheetoh. that's how cults work.

30 years?

There's effectively only 2 parties

I can't remember/imagine a time where roughly 45% of the voting population is going to just throw their hands up and give in 2 months before election day

https://youtu.be/AafBunu-k2U?si=dm8TrnFefvD5aD1g

https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/s/aV7zIGQkTn

Are you going to cry about this as much as Kamala's interview questions

He should change it to. he can do anything to his cult and they will still support him.

First he left them to freeze now he leaves them in the dark.

what’s crazy is the crowd cheering when Trump said he would withhold FEMA assistance for wildfires

these people deserve to be stranded, they cheered for it.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/hurricane-relief-officials-threatened-by-armed-militias-in-north-carolina

They keep going lower and lower.

Misinformation rearing its ugly head

Do you think this happens in other 'first world' countries?

SMH.

https://youtu.be/K4No1nIqkY4?si=exQDSxBi2qCwUXiF&t=507

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-musk-secretary-of-cost-cutting-1235132825/

https://youtu.be/-7xyoar-iuY?si=T3Wchjn66Eq1jyE8

i tried to tell people Elon and Tesla wasn't shit when Tesla really started popping off in the early 2010s.

now we're here.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/oct/12/x-twitter-jd-vance-leaked-file

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/11/us/politics/elon-musk-donald-trump-pennsylvania.html?smid=url-share

edited to delete link to document. you can google that for yourself. i have not read the document. i tried to post it on facebook and facebook said the link was spam... ha! interesting. anyway....

again, if Repubs cry about anything Dems are doing, it just means they're doing it times 100.

https://www.nasa.gov/news-release/nasa-decides-to-bring-starliner-spacecraft-back-to-earth-without-crew/

https://www.npr.org/2024/08/24/nx-s1-5087892/nasa-starliner-astronaut-return-iss-spacex

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Elon_Musk_gives_tour_for_President_Barack_Obama.jpg

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/ro-khanna-says-elon-musk-supported-obama-but-democrats-lost-him/articleshow/114086801.cms

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https://x.com/MarioNawfal/status/1845696965289381895

https://x.com/FutureJurvetson/status/1845464187935289568

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1845467052443828579

it's on Ken Klippenstein's website. you can just google his name. that's the document that was censored by mr. anti-censorship.

https://imgur.com/a/ugwrMQp

https://imgur.com/a/CVbX5jF

what is your point btw?

It's unfathomable to me that people believe either one of those guys knows a damn thing about anything in the neighborhood of engineering.

lives in is not helpful at all for winning elections. left has to jettison delusional magical thinking

https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/13/world/video/iran-us-election-choice-donald-trump-kamala-harris-pleitgen-digvid

"Well I'll say 100, 200, I'll say 500. I don't care."


but her WORD SALAD

She was up by like 5 points a couple of weeks ago. Now down by 13.

It could be driven by who tends to participate in betting markets. And 56-43 is still pretty much a tossup. But the movement in such a short time is notable.

https://polymarket.com/event/presidential-election-winner-2024/will-kamala-harris-win-the-2024-us-presidential-election?tid=1728998373926

The endorsements of the Cheney family would have put her over the top. There have to be...at minimum...dozens of people who were moved by that. Dozens!

I hear they are working on a Dubya endorsement. Maybe that will turn the entire country blue. Reagan type blowout incoming.


Don't think I've seen a campaign start out so strong with so much energy and hype and then change that working messaging on a dime and fuck all the momentum up.


Round up all the consultants...all the former Clintonistas and Obamanites....all the idiots who think there are "moderate republican" votes to win....and launch them into fucking space.

figured that would seal the deal since everyone knows how loved Dick Cheney is by the liberal and international community. I remember people used to take to the streets when he and Bush were in office to celebrate and thank him for his contributions to the nation.

I'm still holding out my vote, waiting to see if GW Bush will endorse her and do a dance on stage at one of their rallies. These are the issues that really matter.

It's a blockchain crypto system which attracts right-leaning people. It's also open to the world so it's not at all representative of the actual electorate.

Trump shares spiked suddenly which likely means a high-roller recently bought a ton of shares. You can't dismiss Elon's involvement, either.

This is a good way to measure who Polymarket betters think will win but it doesn't really hold much value outside of that.

https://youtu.be/z44wlwC_uPc?si=GBObWrjteEFfTcBj

Should the Democrats being talking more about how he could be Speaker of the House (and 2rd in line to be president)?

Although he is on the ballot in New York, Dems have to be the majority in the House for him to be speaker.

Would that encourage Black male voters or is Hakeem Jeffries too light skinneded to count?

he gets big AIPAC money...one of the biggest cheerleaders of the genocide.

he is one of the people in congress who invited Netenyahu to speak at the Capital.

made speeches about his unwavering support for Israel saying "Israel today. Israel Tomorrow. Israel forever.".....it was a spin-off on a speech made by George Wallace praising segregation.

He has stated publicly that Eric Adams shouldn't resign.

yay.

someone voting Green Party in 2000:
liberals: Noooooooooo! You have to vote for Gore! George Bush and Cheney are THE WORST!!! they will destroy this country.

someone voting Green Party in 2024:
liberals: Noooooooo! You have to vote for the candidate that Dick Cheney endorsed...and the genocide in Gaza will be even worse with Trump, at least I think it will....I haven't been paying attention to be honest.

Smh

I may be paraphrasing and simplifying the talking points....but how I'm being disingenuous on the narrative?

It's very easy to google the different views on Gaza between Trump and Kamala.

Is it because the support her and her policies? Or is it because they hate Trump so much that they are willing to support a candidate that they also probably hate?

It's disingenuous to look at their support as a sign of anything other than them loathing Trump.

apparently green party voters are not able to see how dangerous he is.

I agree that Cheney and a lot of neo-Cons see how dangerous Trump is which is why they are willing to support Harris....it's the same way Democrats often talk about the need for a 'strong republican party'...because the duopoly requires both parties to function to serve corporate interests and the war machine.

it's wild to see the Democratic party enthusiastically embrace Dick Cheney while pointing fingers at Jill Stein or Black men for polling numbers dipping below 90%

green party voters KNOW how dangerous Trump is...it's disingenuous, and dismissive to claim otherwise....but a majority of green party voters are consistent with their values...so if someone is anti-war and anti-genocide they will vote accordingly...especially as Dems move further to the center and right...and especially as they oversee and fund a genocide for over a year.

it would be good if we could normalize the idea of talking TO 3rd party and disenfranchised voters rather than talking DOWN to them or make assumptions....especially when folks are coming from many different experiences and traumas. many people are in deep mourning from this genocide, have lost loved ones and are heartbroken for the state of things....being scolded on how much worse this 12+ month genocide would be under Trump would be not only feels out of touch with a lot of people's realities...it feels removed from basic human empathy.

i hope you do, and maybe she can help end what's happening in Gaza. but it would be better for the whole entire world if she wins.

I’m blown away at these old posters from 20 years ago showing up and still sounding like some college kids from 2004 or something.

Probably still got “infinitely go against the grain” as your AIM away messages and shit.

SMH.

lots of innocent children and Palestinians.
others are burned to death in their tents while they sleep.

https://www.instagram.com/p/DBFk7uYIFeD/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

so if speaking up against war crimes and the death of loved ones makes me sound like a college kid....word. I prefer that over sounding like some imperialist-defending adult.

Just think of how noble your principled stand will be when Trump tells Bibi "FINSIH THE JOB."

Thank goodness for you!

there isn't gonna be much left of Gaza for him to 'finish the job' in January 2025.

for people mourning the loss of family, loved ones and basic humanity....how do you think these sentiments are perceived?

you see this as making a strong case for people to vote blue?

Not even close.

but when it comes to Palestine and the genocide....Biden doesn't give a fuck!

It's been over a year...there's no way you can look at what's already been done and escalating and tell me otherwise. remember his 'red line' for invading Rafa??? it's all lip service....faux sympathy.

Harris is not shifting at all from Biden's policy aside from expressing a bit more 'concern'

Trump is just more honest about his disdain for Palestinians and international law.

.

maybe that can get them to change their mind? probably not.

would that mean Harris voters are on the same page as Dick Cheney?

of course not. this is such an absurd statement and shows a lack of critical or honest thinking.

https://www.tiktok.com/@nypost/video/7425000824151084330


"She's got 3 kids"

Unbelievable

half of this country lost all discernment.

i think they are part of the same MAGA Christian cult. the kids are the wife's responsibility and therefore it's the wife's kids...

“He was there to go pick up my kids when I couldn’t,” Casey says as she holds back tears. “And he did it with humility, and he did it with love, and I’ll tell you what. You can’t ask for a better husband than that.”

wtf?

what the polls were clearly saying. And also acknowledge that Trump always outperforms his polls.