I stand with Israel.

Genesis 12:3 I will bless those who bless you, and whoever curses you I will curse; and all people's of the earth shall be blessed through you.

www.voy.com/70693/

>I stand with Israel.

Why not mention that Israel attacked first by killing an Iranian commander in Syria?

Smh

You stand with genocide ?


smh

Then demonstrate that the crash was an example of the god of the bible cursing them.

By “demonstrate”, I mean providing actual evidence.

First you’d have to demonstrate that said god actually exists as a real entity, not just a concept and a character in a book.

If you can’t do that, you can’t demonstrate the rest.

Can you do those things?

and stand much more stronger with Black.

As an colonizer and oppressor of Black people and people of color, why are you here?

Learn your history.

The Bible and Israel prevail.


3Molly deception is for the unwise.


Hoping the Bible and Israel don't prevail is a fool's game.


All the progress Black people made in the past in the USA was connected to the church. When Black people left that for left-wing games....

American's really want to be dragged into a 1000s of year old religious wars?!!?

I hate it.


Also, what da fuzz "I stand with _____" even mean? Yall ready to go pick up some arms and hit the battlefield!?!?! SMH.


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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

The overwhelming majority of which will never so much as sniff a battlefield.

But they definitely want this.

Just, you know, from the comfort of their homes and churches, and for some, probably their weekend militia “training”.

They can’t wait for it because they think it’s destiny, and jesus will return and all that.

I know you can evaluate how a Christian speaking in support of Israel stands for Israel.


Why is supporting Israel something that is complex to understand when speaking out for Palestine is easy to understand and requires no physical fighting by college protesters?

We're already in it, so tell college students not to get involved on behalf of Palestine, too.


Hitler was defeated.

Israel won the 6 Day war

Black people have a church history - not just right-wing Christians.


Learn history

The race or ethnic makeup of those people are immaterial.

It is still largely that group of fanatics that is currently jerking off to the mere implication that more might pop off.

but yes framing it as such, and even worst embracing it in that manner like this poster is doing, is very disconcerting.

This one’s got all the makings of a classic scrap with real implications for okp's endlessly stacked Intellectual Lightweight Division.

Both fighters are seasoned vets but Molly is fresh off a career best performance with her two ‘Kaitlin Clark (sic) has set us(women) back’ post and it’s immediate follow-up “why was my post locked?” Both efforts featured a level of loud and wrong these boards haven’t seen in ages. She’s one to watch, Joe.

c71 has started strong in this post by just making stuff up, standing for a genocidal regime (when no one asked), showing a specious grasp of history AND like other practitioners of the moron arts from okp’s past backed it up with biblical prophecy. This one is a pick ‘em and I haven’t been this excited since watching two wallabies try to solve a Rubik’s Cube.

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I say, change the header to this one and let this shit COOK

I'm so sick of you hardlegs. Just say you don't think women should make at least 2% of what a man makes in the same sport.

wish there was audio of this.

>This one’s got all the makings of a classic scrap with real
>implications for okp's endlessly stacked Intellectual
>Lightweight Division.
>
>Both fighters are seasoned vets but Molly is fresh off a
>career best performance with her two ‘Kaitlin Clark (sic)
>has set us(women) back’ post and it’s immediate follow-up
>“why was my post locked?” Both efforts featured a level of
>loud and wrong these boards haven’t seen in ages. She’s
>one to watch, Joe.
>
>c71 has started strong in this post by just making stuff up,
>standing for a genocidal regime (when no one asked), showing a
>specious grasp of history AND like other practitioners of the
>moron arts from okp’s past backed it up with biblical
>prophecy. This one is a pick ‘em and I haven’t been this
>excited since watching two wallabies try to solve a Rubik’s
>Cube.
>
>*Jon Anik ad-read voice:* Monday Afternoon Moron Fights in GD
>are brought to you by Fan Duel. Sign up now and use the promo
>code ‘WTF!’ at checkout for $100 in Bonus Bets free.
>
>
>
>

You and your ilk have put in so much work to deceive the world. You don't give damn about the bible, you don't give a damn about the land you call Israel.

If you were even mildly going by biblical text, regardless of the original book or the altered ones, you would not long for a land of your own (especially with these tactics), just as the Hebrews were warned not to long for a king.

As for Black people and our progress, we've always infused our original origins even when you and your ilk attempted to do away with them. The most funniest thing of all is through your desperate attempts we've continue to create in a way that leaves the world baffled, tuned in and inspired.

Tell me, who have you and your ilk inspired? How many other's have your ilk set free and lived in actual brotherhood with?

And once again, why is an anti-Black, anti-Semite, blood thirsty bigot like yourself on this platform?

Either white or pretending to be white.

That ‘i stand w/israel’ rant reads like ‘but we’ve done so much for your people and civilized you’.

>Learn your history.
>
>The Bible and Israel prevail.
>
>
>3Molly deception is for the unwise.
>
>
>Hoping the Bible and Israel don't prevail is a fool's game.
>
>
>All the progress Black people made in the past in the USA was
>connected to the church. When Black people left that for
>left-wing games....

nm

The OKP who will not go back and forth, picked this hill.

are u saying Isreal did it or are you saying God did it?

Good on for not assuming though

But if they do answer your question, it will probably be a word salad ass answer

... in a min ngl

What I do not understand is posting *that* *here*

Scotch + Fox News just seems like the much better option in that scenario

Because he killed his OKP existence with one post and that was the line that nailed that door shut.

In fact my current avy is a reference to him, because it looks just like him.

I vaguely remember that but didn't recall many details. Well done lol

>Because he killed his OKP existence with one post and that
>was the line that nailed that door shut.
>
>In fact my current avy is a reference to him, because it looks
>just like him.

Already, folks just want to stick to modern left-wing stuff (like all Christianity is right-wing, left-wing can speak and that is taking a stand but a supporter of Israel has to fight over there to take a stand, etc.)

People ignoring history

The Heavenly Father gave Israel that land.

It's their land from the Heavenly Father.

>Already, folks just want to stick to modern left-wing stuff
>(like all Christianity is right-wing, left-wing can speak and
>that is taking a stand but a supporter of Israel has to fight
>over there to take a stand, etc.)

You’re a coward who won’t actually defend your position.

You’ll talk around and about what I said but not to address me directly?

That’s coward shit.

>People ignoring history
>
>The Heavenly Father gave Israel that land.
>
>It's their land from the Heavenly Father.

Prove it.

With good evidence.

And “for my bible tells me so” isn’t that.

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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

Because this sentiment is largely attached to that subset.

Not completely, and not every right wing conservative thinks like that, but that’s where a lot of this is concentrated.

But there are plenty of Christians who aren’t on this bullshit.

...to fight...but pro-palestinian supporters can speak on campus and that's "taking a stand" to them


You also don't want the USA to be in 1000's year old wars, yet when was the USA not allied with Israel (which the college protesters are complaining about)

But..


If I say "I stand with Israel" all of the sudden everybody gets "un-involved"


yeah right

You’re a coward who absolutely does not want to deal with pushback your beliefs.

Straight up. You have no back bone.

Just another who wants to spew his mythology in an echochamber but wants NO pushback.

Objectively, you posted the bare minimum of what happened. No link for context and/or detailing the events leading up to this attack

And then you state your allegiance, along with an Old Testament scripture to support your stance. You chose to remain vague, which leaves people a lot of room to fill in blanks, and up to this point, you haven't necessarily seemed to defend your stance outside of pointing to history

Genuinely curious: what were you looking to get from posting this the way you posted it? And you've been around here for a min, so knowing how folks are, why post it here?

>The Heavenly Father gave Israel that land.
>
>It's their land from the Heavenly Father.

but instead of talented musicians it's morons.

Like when no one knew who Bilal was and he just started singing at someone's house over some djembe drums. Every week on here some mf will just pop their head up and say the stupidest shit you ever heard in your life and blow your mind.

It's a veritable moronaissance.

Also, if you missed the Kaitlyn Clark/why my post locked combo you should check it out if you got the brain cells to spare. Niggas were in there Next Level Chefing in that post. Everything elevated. Only top level dishes.

https://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=21&topic_id=65705&mesg_id=65705&listing_type=search#65708

thanks for posting.

Because your bible gives a full on how to guide for that shit

And don’t give me this bullshit about the new testament and not being under the law because of the crucifixion, because Jesus said he cane to fulfill the law- not abolish it.

Jesus declared all food clean, but curiously, couldn’t also declare slavery illegal, ungodly, etc.

And Paul tells them to obey their masters.

So that’s out.

Jesus didn’t resolve that.

So do you support slavery? Because your bible certainly does.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C7MoC5Xxl_9/?igsh=MWp4OTl2MGQ5MHBycA==

Their best apologetics on this and most issues do not stand up to basic scrutiny.

c71 is only good for bully pulpitting.

c71 has dodged much less damning and less objectionable questions in this thread.

I mean if I was offered a slave, I... I'd say no. (c) Brian Griffin

...I'll pose a question to those who want an answer about whether I believe the Heavenly Father crashed the copter:

Do you believe the Heavenly Father had any role in Hitler losing in light of what Hitler did to Jewish people?


If the Heavenly Father had a role in Hitler's end, then.....

You’re a coward and a piss poor representative of your faith.

Isn't that the obvious question to start with?


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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

Why did the Babylonian exile happen?

Why did the Roman conquest happen?


This is what Jeremiah wrote during the Babylonian exile era:

Jeremiah 30:11 I am with you and will save you,’ declares the LORD. ‘Though I completely destroy all the nations among which I scatter you, I will not completely destroy you. I will discipline you but only in due measure; I will not let you go entirely unpunished.’



Right after what Hitler and Germany did with the Holocaust.....the Nation of Israel was re-established.



https://www.ifcj.org/news/fellowship-blog/the-miracle-of-the-jewish-peoples-return-to-israel

The Miracle of the Jewish People’s Return to Israel
The Fellowship | January 1, 2020


(edited)


The single most influential event that triggered the Israel return to the homeland of the scattered Jews began with Israel’s First President, Chaim Weizmann. Weizmann was a Russian Jew, a brilliant chemist and a leader in the Zionist movement, who immigrated to England in 1904. During World War I, English armies used gunpowder made of cordite, which produced little smoke and thus did not blind gunners to their targets or reveal their positions. But since the manufacture of cordite required acetone made from a compound imported from their enemy, Germany, the English government was desperate to find another source. Prime Minister Lloyd George and Winston Churchill turned to Weizmann and set him up in a gin distillery, where he quickly developed a biochemical process for producing synthetic acetone.

The success of his ingenious process for creating acetone contributed to the ultimate Allied victory. The minimal salary and token reward that Weizmann received from the government earned him significant leverage when he pressed his persistent petitions for a Jewish homeland in Israel.

‘A National Home for the Jewish People’

As it happened, by the war’s end, England gained possession of the land of Palestine—the very land promised in God’s covenant with Abraham—from the defeated Ottoman Empire. As an act of a grateful nation and through Weizmann’s influence within the government, England officially issued the Balfour Declaration of 1917, which declared: “His Majesty’s Government views with favor the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavors to facilitate the achievement of this object…”

The second influential event that brought the scattered Jews back to Palestine was the liberation of Jewish prisoners from Auschwitz, Dachau, and other Nazi concentration camps. When Germany collapsed at the end of World War II, the liberation of these Jewish prisoners caused worldwide shock at the grossly inhumane treatment inflicted by the Nazis. This generated sympathy that drew Jewish wealth from around the world and enabled the relocation of more than a million displaced Jews to Palestine.

---------------------------=

https://holocaust.projects.history.ucsb.edu/Research/Proseminar/tomerkleinman.htm


Did the Holocaust Play a Role in the Establishment of the State of Israel?


By Tomer Kleinman, UCSB, March 2002,


Israel and the Holocaust


“Moving to Israel was very difficult. We ate only pita and drank water, we worked long hours and we were constantly in fear of Arab attacks.” Those were the words of Chaim Tsabag, an immigrant to Israel in 1947. At the age of 23, Chaim witnessed the hardships that many Jews had to endure when arriving to Israel from Europe. Just one year after his arrival, Chaim was in the army fighting for Israel’s Independence. When Chaim went home after the war, he recalled “a country that was in need of food, construction and money.” Israel received their independence in 1948, but was going to fall if they did not receive outside help.

The establishment of the State of Israel would have been possible without the Holocaust due to the Zionist movement, however the reparations from the Holocaust given by West Germany gave Israel the resources necessary to survive. In this paper I will argue that the Holocaust played an important role in the founding and long term visibility of the State of Israel in three respects: The Holocaust motivated large numbers of immigrants to move to the new country, providing the necessary population; secondly, the Holocaust enabled Israel to pressure Germany into supplying the economic base necessary to build infrastructure and support those immigrants; and finally, the Holocaust swayed world opinion so that the United Nations approved the State of Israel in 1948.

And so that he can use that to reform Israel.

What a swell guy.

“Discipline” is mass starvation, torture, and a motherfucking gas chamber.

Yeah, that’ll show em!

Your god created a world and scenario where his supposed chosen people (a deeply problematic decision in itself, but I digress) would be forced to endure horrific abuse, torture, and murder as a form of discipline, so that he could show off in some “aha! this was the plana all along!”.

That shit is as dumb as Drake saying he gave Kendrick false information, saying the people who gave him that info are clowns, and then saying “it was me all along!”.

At best, It’s just bad writing and incompetent storytelling.

At worst, your god is an absolute monster and the single most vile and deplorable entity in all of human history.

As for you, you can’t give a direct answer to a direct question, even from a fellow believer.

You “answered” by asking more questions, posted a bible verse, and two article links that described the aforementioned atrocities.

Wow. How fucking pathetic.

convince anyone to give up their ideas on religion in a few posts.


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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

I addressed the absurdity of his answer.

And yes, that shit was pure insanity.

I’m not addressing the “I believe and have faith and go to church for community and use that as a moral foundation” bit of Christianity here.

Oh, I have a LOT to say about that too. But there’s more nuance to that, and it’s still not what I’m addressing here.

I addressed the insanity of his response as well as his refusal to engage with you, a fellow believer, in a sincere way. He couldn’t directly answer a direct question.

He’s willing to tell his humanity to fuck off because his book tells him the people committing this genocide are his god’s chosen people.

I don’t think I’m changing his or anyone’s mind with a single post, or a string of posts.

But I’ll say this:

My own mind was slowly changed in small, subtle ways over the course of years, and part of that process included a lot of people- some even here on OKP- taking some of my more batshit beliefs to task. But there were a lot of microsopic shifts until that snowball suddenly started rolling.

So someone’s mind may eventually change, and some minds may shift a little. And maybe none will. Cool.

Either way, I’m happy to point out how insane his beliefs are, because he’s gone so far as to abandon his own humanity for it.

And not that it’s happening right now, but ai have gotten inboxes over the years from people telling me thanks for some of these posts.

Black People or other races of people?


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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

Than anyone else

This reminds me of that Je Budden, Lil' Yatchy moment.

https://youtube.com/shorts/ANxMjC3Ggh0?si=6XrBQ7GSTB-5sCoz

I know what you think, I want to hear from mans.

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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

....and humans are tested with how much they accept or rail against the choice the Heavenly Father has made.


The main issue is that to exalt a human way of viewing things shows pride and disrespect of the Heavenly Father.


Some could say that the Heavenly Father SHOULD ONLY do things that a clear majority of people would agree with and THEN the majority would "accept" what the Heavenly Father decrees or chooses.

but...


...the more a person studies theology, the more it is clear humans are especially tested on how much they will accept what the Heavenly Father chooses or decrees or how much humans will exalt their own plans and demand the Heavenly Father explain why the Heavenly Father chose or decreed something.


I started off this post with Genesis 12:3 I will bless those who bless you, and him who dishonors you I will curse, and in you all the families of the earth shall be blessed.”


Obviously, most humans can say: the NICEST AND MOST AGREEABLE thing the Heavenly Father could have done is bless ALL peoples' equally and EVERYBODY would say that the Heavenly Father is fair, just and nice.

but obviously...

The Heavenly Father is doing things according to HIS plan and choosing the Jewish people to represent Him and use them to spread the Word initially and then further expand with the Christian faith to ALL nations WAS THE HEAVENLY FATHER'S OWN WAY OF DOING ThINGS.


Seemingly, the Heavenly Father likes this particular scenario detailed in this verse:

Zechariah 8:23 This is what the LORD Almighty says: “In those days ten people from all languages and nations will take firm hold of one Jew by the hem of his robe and say, ‘Let us go with you, because we have heard that God is with you.’”


You can protest that that doesn't seem like the "fairest" way to have people of different nations to learn about the Heavenly Father, but Zecharish 8:23 coupled with Genesis 12:3 is CLEARLY telling you WHAT THE HEAVENLY FATHER LIKES.


It's up to humans to recognize that and not rebel and question.


I only got back to this post at this point because I don't sign-in to OKP when NET:CERT says the site is a "danger" to computer info being "stolen"

There’s this tree that will give you knowledge of good and evil
If you eat it, you’ll die, so don’t eat it. Got it?

Of course, part of the test is that I’m not going to tell you I’ve allowed a serpent into the garden to tempt you into eating it.

The brilliant part of the test though, the coupe de grace?

Without the knowledge of good and evil, they have no concept of right and wrong, so they have no way to truly evaluate whether they’ve done anything wrong if they eat it!

But wait, there’s more! The consequences are exponentially worse than the one I told you about.

You won’t just die, every other human who ever exists will die too.

And when they die, they don’t just cease to exist, they’ll go to a lake of fire and burn for all eternity. That’s right: the consequence is infinite torture for the finite crime of breaking my rules.

Also, while they’re alive, they’ll all become so wretched, filthy and repulsive to me that they’ll have to provide me a blood sacrifice to atone for their sin, which will only exist if you eat this fruit.

It’s all good though- I’ll designate one particular group as my favorite. That won’t mean much because I’m going to let them suffer monumental atrocities, but hey, I’m going to let them murder entire tribes of people, except for the virgin women and young girls. I’m not going to spell this out, but I’ve made you people smart enough to figure it out.

Anyhow, most of you will be vile pieces of shit to me, but never fear, I got that covered too.

My spirit is going to impregnate a virgin and she’ll give birth to me (don’t trouble yourself with the details on that) and I’ll be perfect and sinless, grow up, and then I’ll sacrifice myself to myself as atonement for you horrible people breaking rules I created.

That sounds gruesome, but I can’t forgive you unless something dies. Blood and death are kind of my thing.

Anyhow, as long as people believe that my SonSelf did all this so I can forgive them, they’re good. If they don’t? Look, that’s a nice soul you got there. It’d be a shame if it burned for all eternity for not believing in me, so just believe in me and I’ll protect you from me, capisce?

Anyhow, that’s the gist of the test. Just don’t eat the fruit, mkay?

of responding to you.

God put this "test" in front of him...and he's ghost.

Here's his chance to meet the lord's challenge. To engage with you...not to convince you, but to convince those of us reading...to show he is willing to put himself out there for his heavenly father.

A fairly simple test and yet, he fails. He must lack the spirit.

He better hope God is too busy crashing helicopters, winning world wars, and overseeing multiple genocides to notice him shrinking from this simplest of tests.

>God is too busy crashing helicopters, winning
>world wars, and overseeing multiple genocides

I think you nailed it here, because that seems like exactly what he wants.

He’s one of those people who can’t wait for shit to *really* pop off because he thinks he’s living in the end times (the same one every generation seems to think they’re living in) and he thinks that means he’ll have the honor/privilege/whatever to be around to see jesus come back and kick all our heathen asses.

So he’s definitely rooting for that crazy shit.

> notice him
>shrinking from this simplest of tests.

Lol, this was an admittedly fun take.

For the record, I don’t view myself as any such test, and I’m confident he doesn’t see me as that either.

From what he has said- in his backhanded, milquetoast, passive aggressive way as he talks about things I’ve said without addressing me directly- seems that he’s practicing the “pearls before swine” thing. I’m sure he or some other apologist would spit some “hey you said it” nonsense, but that’s his general tact here.

c71 is much more of an apologist

And even if he did choose to engage me on some of the things I’ve brought up, such as slavery, I’m confident I can predict with great accuracy what he’d say in response.

>Do you believe the Heavenly Father had any role in Hitler
>losing in light of what Hitler did to Jewish people?
>
>
>If the Heavenly Father had a role in Hitler's end, then.....

this had nothing to do with it.

So wat cha sayin'?

NO BLUNDERS

I figured I was about to read some wingnut conspiracy theories about how the Israeli government cr3eated the fog and shot down the helicopter. Not... this.

***Abe Simpson gif***

because bible told me so?

so you're good with colonization because jesus?

*cue for my shadow to exhibit his life's purpose yet again*

If your holy book is to be believed, whatever my “purpose” is, your god is the one guiding all of it.

Moreover, whatever your god’s plan is for you, Romans 8:28 says that all things work together for the good of those who love him. So my “purpose” in these interactions would still be a part of his plan you.

So your snickering little jab is mocking that plan, not me.

Also, why are snickering at all?

Why aren’t you loving your enemy and praying for me as Matthew 5:44 commands?

Maybe it’s because you’re a fraud who doesn’t actually believe and walk the harder elements of your holy book.

Funny how easy it is for you to cheer on genocide. You LOVE that shit.

Killing all the Canaanites? FUCK YEAH!

But fuck all that love lefty, libtard, love those who despise you, turn the other cheek shit.

Oh I know- you’re just refusing to cast pearls before swine and all that.

It’s fun to just pick and choose!

*cue for my shadow to exhibit his life's purpose yet again*

I don't miss him at all. But this post obviously prompted memories of his bullshit.

...or so.

he used to get those temp bans alot which seemed to be a mix of his own stubbornness along with having mod who reveled in putting people on time-out

I also vaguely remember a possible alias that was basically just him with some cuss words, that people sussed out because of the same spelling errors. Idk if it was ever confirmed lol

>I also vaguely remember a possible alias that was basically
>just him with some cuss words, that people sussed out because
>of the same spelling errors. Idk if it was ever confirmed lol

I can't remember if he ever denied it though.

I know he also got married again

maybe she gave him an ultimatum.

.

I guess sanctions do have their way of working

Fuck Israel btw.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2010/4/25/remembering-operation-eagle-claw

so God did that too?

just elected a Jewish woman as President?

There's gotta be someone here smarter than me.

"I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do, because I notice it always coincides with their own desires."
• Susan B. Anthony