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13502063, WW3? Iran attacks Israel
Posted by legsdiamond, Sun Apr-14-24 12:15 PM
https://www.timesofisrael.com/iran-launches-wave-of-drones-at-israel-in-first-ever-direct-attack-idf-braces-to-intercept/

13502064, Like a world war with conventional weapons? Unlikely.
Posted by JayEmm, Sun Apr-14-24 01:11 PM
If these current situations are your definition of world war, well then you could make the case we've been in uninterrupted world war since basically the 1940s. What we're currently witnessing is nothing new; there have been regional conflicts acting as proxies for superpowers throughout the last century.

China is still critically reliant on the U.S and its allies as principal export markets and sources of advanced technologies. Their dependence on international markets is very high, and they still rely on an import market for vital raw materials - they're the world's largest net importer of total petroleum and liquid fuels.

Russia has also shown they’re much less powerful than we previously imagined; they're having enough difficulty equipping and supplying a military operation in a country that borders their own.

Modern wars are fought asymmetrically through the use of proxies and terrorism.

13502067, Thank you for putting my mind at ease
Posted by rdhull, Sun Apr-14-24 04:17 PM
>If these current situations are your definition of world war,
>well then you could make the case we've been in uninterrupted
>world war since basically the 1940s. What we're currently
>witnessing is nothing new; there have been regional conflicts
>acting as proxies for superpowers throughout the last century.
>
>
>China is still critically reliant on the U.S and its allies as
>principal export markets and sources of advanced technologies.
>Their dependence on international markets is very high, and
>they still rely on an import market for vital raw materials -
>they're the world's largest net importer of total petroleum
>and liquid fuels.
>
>Russia has also shown they’re much less powerful than we
>previously imagined; they're having enough difficulty
>equipping and supplying a military operation in a country that
>borders their own.
>
>Modern wars are fought asymmetrically through the use of
>proxies and terrorism.
>
>
13502082, This feels different because we love some Israel
Posted by legsdiamond, Mon Apr-15-24 08:07 AM
and many in office and in other positions of influence have sworn to defend it.

13502084, Bin Laden used fatwa against Israel to justify September 11th.
Posted by JayEmm, Mon Apr-15-24 09:10 AM
An attack on U.S. soil which eventually lead to the "Global War on Terrorism", but still never escalated into actual world war.


>and many in office and in other positions of influence have
>sworn to defend it.

Israel is the closest thing to a western democratic country in the Middle East. In addition to having a powerful military they also share many cultural similarities with the U.S. There are nearly as many Jews in the United States as there are in Israel.

As long as the great Western powers are deeply involved in the region, U.S. foreign policy will always hold Israel as a close ally. We've never had a U.S. president that treated them differently and it's extremely unlikely we ever will.
13502113, RE: Bin Laden used fatwa against Israel to justify September 11th.
Posted by rdhull, Mon Apr-15-24 01:43 PM
So attack on them isn't an attack enough to pull US into a war? I hear you but I get feeling uneasy (again now).

>
>Israel is the closest thing to a western democratic country in
>the Middle East. In addition to having a powerful military
>they also share many cultural similarities with the U.S. There
>are nearly as many Jews in the United States as there are in
>Israel.
>
>As long as the great Western powers are deeply involved in the
>region, U.S. foreign policy will always hold Israel as a close
>ally. We've never had a U.S. president that treated them
>differently and it's extremely unlikely we ever will.
13502116, RE: Bin Laden used fatwa against Israel to justify September 11th.
Posted by JayEmm, Mon Apr-15-24 02:10 PM
>So attack on them isn't an attack enough to pull US into a
>war? I hear you but I get feeling uneasy (again now).

I'm just addressing the discussion at hand here, which is the likelihood of "WWIII" breaking out.

To clarify: Russia & China both understand that a globalized economy disincentivizes any prospect of another world war. And while it's certainly not something to be prideful of, the inauspicious reality is there is no military on the planet who can truly be considered equipped to deal with the sheer size and scope of the U.S. military juggernaut. Countries like Russia and China would struggle to handle open conflict, let alone Iran. Shit, the U.S. Coast Guard has a larger fleet and air-support capability than most navies on the globe.
13502117, As we see with Russia and Ukraine
Posted by legsdiamond, Mon Apr-15-24 02:58 PM
I think our idea of war is outdated.

fucking drones dropping bombs in trenches and shit.

As we found out in Afghanistan. Fighting abroad puts you at a huge disadvantage.

13502122, Yeah. The biggest threat is a cyberattack to our critical infrastructure.
Posted by JayEmm, Mon Apr-15-24 03:36 PM
>I think our idea of war is outdated.
>
>fucking drones dropping bombs in trenches and shit.
>
>As we found out in Afghanistan. Fighting abroad puts you at a
>huge disadvantage.