https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/oscars-upset-jamie-lee-curtis-003649535.html

Stephanie Hsu is still fairly young, so hopefully she'll get another strong script where she can get another crack at an Oscar.

Hopefully the spotlight this film put on her and the entire cast will result in her getting as good a role as this flick.

Not to say Jamie Lee Curtis didn't do a good job, but Stephanie was such a great foil to Michelle Yeoh's protagonist role and she played the villain role with enough heart so that her portrayal wasn't too esoteric, which wasn't an easy feat given how bonkers the movie's premise was.

Honestly everyone in this category did a great job, Kerry too.

Angela Bassett gave a good performance in BP, but it wasn’t some out of this
world performance that marveled over all others.

Jamie was going to get rewarded for all of her years being labeled a scream queen,
and being a hardworking female actor, who should have won an Oscar years ago.
She should have easily won for the first two Halloween movies, but due to Genre
bias she wasn’t acknowledged.

Halloween 1 and 2
Trading Places
A Fish called Wanda ( should have been nominated)
True Lies ( should have been nominated…won a golden globe)
Perfect
Blue Steel

Her movies have generated over 2.5 billion.

The woman is no slouch.

So you saying her Halloween performance was better then whoever won in 78 and 81 no matter who it was or what performance.

lol

movie critics have stated as such. She should have at least been nominated.


“Halloween is considered one of the greatest and most influential horror films ever made, and Curtis' performance should have received an Academy Award nomination.”

https://movieweb.com/jamie-lee-curtis-oscar-nomination-should-have/


Halloween came out in 1978…Jane Fonda won for Coming Home. Jamie Lee Curtis
performance was on the same level, but there was bias against horror movies being
considered for AA. Go watch Coming Home.

No one remembers coming home….

But everyone remembers Halloween and Jamie’s performance..which created a billion
dollar franchise and genre

You said she should have won easily don't change it up. Everyone who is nominated cannot win easily.

How hard is a scream queen performance ?

True nobody remembers Coming Home but the flip side to your coin is everybody remembers Friday 13th and Nightmare on Elm street are you saying the lead actress in those movies would have won easily or they deserve a nomination.

What about Halloween 2 was that the best performance for that year. Did anyone remember that ?

John Carpenter’s Halloween is way more creative and significant. It changed the way
movies were made, where it is still being copied to this day. The POV camera shots,
the atmospheric mood of the movie, and the simplicity in which how it was shot made
it more than just a horror movie.

Friday 13th and Elm Street are shit movies and shit acting in comparison
to the first 2 Halloweens.

Also, Linda Blair was nominated for an AA for the Exorcist, which is
another outstanding horror film. Some felt she should have won, but again
AA has always been bias against the Horror genre.

My point of posting that link was to showcase that there are people who felt
that Jamie deserved to at least be nominated…I felt she should have won an
Oscar for that performance

What Carpenter did or how he shot a scene is more of an argument for director , producer or cinematographer winning an Oscar, than lead actress. That means your first paragraph is moot.

People remember those shit movies(Friday the 13th,Nightmare). Do you recall what you just said about Coming Home ?

Agreed Linda Blair gave a good performance and AMPAS is bias against horror movies but that does not mean that Jamie would've easily won if nominated.

That link really worked against you because it used more than horror movies which means she was not stuck in the horror genre, so you't keep saying horror bias. Plus the link includes Freaky Friday and True Lies as movies that deserves a Oscar nom.

An Oscar for Halloween movies?

nigga log off

Jane Fonda won for Coming Home, and Jamie Lee’s acting was just as worthy…

Halloween is a billion dollar franchise that created a genre, and a memorable performance
by Jamie Lee, which some critics agree that she should have been nominated.

Halloween is one of the greatest movies ever created….it goes way beyond just being
a horror movie.

no one should ever win an Oscar for a slasher film.

Misery or Silence of the Lambs? Sure..

but Scream, Freddy, Jason type horror?

FOK KNOW

And Halloween 1 and 2 aren’t just slasher movies, the art of those movies
separate them from all others.

You do realize that Sissy Spacek and Linda Blair were both nominated
for Horror movies. Carrie and The Exorcist….and JLC gave a similar
performance for her horror movie.

We agree to disagree.

Jamie is not one of those actors who missed out on an Oscar for an obviously worthy performance earlier in her career (like Denzel for X).

She was just really damn good in EEAAO.

If anything, Angela might have been harmed by the fact that her character's screen time wasn't as long (less performance time) in comparison to Jamie's.

Although people have won awards for short performances before.
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"To Each His Reach"

but.....

Fuck aliens.

I’m saying all the above.

It was just another Star Wars.

so, "just another Star Wars" isn't the knock you think it was.

not even interested in arguing btw, just pointing out the terrible comparison.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsojiWVVj00

Stop it. Here's your race card

>Stop it. Here's your race card

they had switch to some other “people of color”

Are you kidding me?

Michelle Yeoh is a legend and deserved her Oscar as well as everyone else.

>Are you kidding me?
>
>Michelle Yeoh is a legend and deserved her Oscar as well as
>everyone else.
>

when you said JLC deserved an Oscar for Halloween you lost all credibility lol

was like no other horror film, and not only created a genre but was the epitome of
such a role, that has yet to be matched by anyone in the genre…that’s how know you’re
good

That wasn’t the typical “scream the boogie man is chasing me” performance

If Linda Blair can get nominated for being possessed by a demon through special
effects, JLC could have won for her ALL NATURAL, no special effects, emotional
portrayal of Strode

It was just a different time and different era then, and the perception of movie genres
was limited. If Halloween came out in this era, she would have been considered

We agree to disagree.

Anyone, none of that has anything to do with the greatness of Michelle Yeoh.
Her Oscar was well deserved.

aint no one buying her acting being Oscar worthy for a fucking Halloween movie

dunno if it shoulda been ol girl but bp2 just wasnt very good. I aint a voter but i imagine that dont help.




(LAWID halle still got it. i ready forgive you for that billy
bob shit boo)

Has anyone ever won an acting oscar for a Marvel Movie???

Both ?

and i heard BP2 was better, so if it's only regular mid, that seems to makes sense.

https://editorial.rottentomatoes.com/guide/all-marvel-cinematic-universe-movies-ranked/

https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/movies/g13441903/all-marvel-cinematic-universe-movies-ranked/

https://www.wired.com/story/best-marvel-movies-ranked/

i'm familiar with all that bullshit you just posted.

ask the actual fans. actually you don't even have to go that far. look in the comments for those articles.

AND, FWIW, it's not even the BP @ #1 that makes those rankings so bad. i mean, that's PART of it, but there's a bunch of other egregious shit in those.

but, at least i knew it was coming since you're that obvious.

i grant BP1 all of it's appropriate accolades, as far as being a milestone film as far as representation and all of that goes. but if you REALLY think BP1 is the #1 Mavel film of all time, you need to watch more Marvel films.

>but, at least i knew it was coming since you're that
>obvious.
>
>i grant BP1 all of it's appropriate accolades, as far as being
>a milestone film as far as representation and all of that
>goes. but if you REALLY think BP1 is the #1 Mavel film of all
>time, you need to watch more Marvel films.

that's why I didn't give you MY opinion, I gave you links to others.

i can understand why you could rate BP #1 because seeing a Black directed, Black casted super hero movie could be super personal to you.

but, it's FAR from the widely accepted "Best Marvel Movie," despite what those lists want you to believe.

and, while opinions vary (c) Dalton (RIP Swayze), i've seen MAD Black people mock those rankings on some "look, BP is a very important movie for many reasons, but the #1 Marvel movie? no fucking way".

>and, while opinions vary (c) Dalton (RIP Swayze), i've seen
>MAD Black people mock those rankings on some "look, BP is a
>very important movie for many reasons, but the #1 Marvel
>movie? no fucking way".

as i've said, ask the fans. check the comments on those rankings articles, etc.

BP1 is not the widely accepted #1 Marvel movie. sorry if that makes you sad or something. if you think it is though? cool.

i made a critique of the movie. you posted those ranking articles like that's some sort of definitive "shooting down" of the critique.

you act like you've never looked at one of those ranking articles and went "this is bullshit."

but i could link you to their own takes so you don't have to take my white word for it, if you'd like.

the reason i'm even aware of this is because those lists went viral on social media when they came out and people were like "uh...love BP, but nah".

I hate when they do that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Z64fMTN1js

and weepy.

She deserves a lifetime achievement oscar like they gave JLC in this one.

Funny thing I have no recollection of JLC in EEAO but I saw it a while ago and it wasn't my jam. I've been meaning to watch it again.

Edit: OK I watched the trailer again and realized who JLC was in the movie. Didn't realize that was her. She was great.

Defintiely more interesting than Angela Bassett in BPII.


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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

not saying EEAAO is great or anything...i haven't seen it....
but...the way you riding so hard for BP2 is concerning....

Highly anticipated follow-up. The death of Chadwick Boseman. I think its very easy to get caught up in for reasons that have nothing to do with the filmmaking and storytelling.

I think with a little time and folks go back to watch it, they going to see it's a bit...overwrought and messy storytelling.


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"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

>not saying EEAAO is great or anything...i haven't seen
>it....

to their tik tok loving grandkids.



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"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

the movies are that normally deemed 'Oscar worthy' 3 or 4 years ago?

but then, the same kind of movies still typically win.

they just change it so more films can get nominated so that at least people don't get mad about glaring omissions.

they not gonna let a comedy or action movie win though. not yet anyway.

Not sure how she was robbed.

I never understood the notion of a nominee robbing another one

We all love Angela and would like to see her win … but no need to diss JLC

Denzel's performance in Malcolm X was better when he got robbed, and some say Al Pacino's Godfather performance was better,when he got robbed.

>I never understood the notion of a nominee robbing another
>one
>
>We all love Angela and would like to see her win … but no
>need to diss JLC

I'll admit I'm biased because I love Angela Bassett and her role in BP2 plus other roles and she should get it on some lifetime achievement ish the way they did with JLC and Denzel in Training Day

i hope she does - she's definitely one of the GOATs.

shit you could probably look at her filmography and pick other roles that were overlooked that she deserved something for.

at least she got a couple golden globes already. some people don't even get that.

Holly Hunter in The Piano? FOH.

up someone else.

Hunter in the Piano was unbelievable. The scene where she gets her
fingers cut off still resonates.

Angela was definitely worthy of winning, but so was Hunter….which is
why she won.

You said Holly Hunter in the Piano? FOH

Then what do you call it?

Explain it to me…You’re either shitting on her or her performance

the movie and her acting are fine.

that's all.

dude be saving all these white women

There are a few times where you look back after a few years and realized they picked the wrong movie.


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"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

Robert Downey Jr was overlooked as well in the same year for Charlie Chaplin,
a portrayal that probably only Johnny Depp could match.

Pacino won it that year for Scent of a Woman, which was good, but honestly
he should have won best supporting actor that year for Glenn Gary Glenn Ross.
He was nominated for both categories that year.

I love Denzel in Malcolm X , but if I had to chose I would have given it to RDjr for
Chaplin….the physical acting of Chaplin was spot on.

Denzel would have gotten my vote for the movie Hurricane…because of the physical
performance of portraying a boxer. Kevin Spacey won for American Beauty that year.
He was outshone to me in that movie by the actor who played the strict, unwavering
military father.

Move over Rock and Rocky..

And you may think I am using Literally wrong. But it's true. Weirdest thing. They did tracking on it and not a single person has ever bothered to watch that movie.

Only movie to have close to that little interest since its release is Scent of a Woman. But at least 5 people have seen that movie out of curiosity to see the performance that somehow beat out Denzel. All five people were underwhelmed. \

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"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

people literally think of Denzel's portrayal when they think of Malcolm X, the real person.

ain't not one person except allstah going "wow, RDJ really nailed Charlie Chaplin"

I've said it before, but whenever I see dude post up something on this website, I just imagine it's Skip typing away on a keyboard so I laugh in my head instead of getting worked up like he wants people to do.

That’s why there is a category for best movie and a category for best actor.
You’re bringing up a whole different subject, so with that being said Malcolm
X is definitely the better movie.

As far as the ACTING, Denzel was great as Malcolm X and was Oscar worthy. However,
the physical performance of Chaplin by RDJr was like watching the real Chaplin.

I throw culture and ethnicity out the window when it comes to art and I focus
on the performance and presentation….the way it should be.

>However,
>the physical performance of Chaplin by RDJr was like watching
>the real Chaplin.
>
>I throw culture and ethnicity out the window when it comes to
>art and I focus
>on the performance and presentation….the way it should be.
>
>

smh

this dude can’t be real

>this dude can’t be real

He can't be like this in real life. This has to be a character he is playing. Has to be.


I refuse to believe he is this programmed to consistently defend whoever in the situation has the privilege/power.... the rich/famous/white/music arist/athelete/actor whatever in every single situation.

Dude came in here bigging up a Charlie fucking Chaplin movie- this can't be real.

as the little rascals and three stooges.

It’s not a white thing or black thing when I watch any form of art. I can’t speak for anyone else, or their perception, but RDjr portrayal of Chaplin was a great performance, which is
why he was nominated….. white or black.

Had Denzel won…he would have been worthy
Had RDjr won he would have been worthy.

>I grew up watching Charlie Chaplin reruns, as well


nothing is too far or too much for you when it comes to trolling

His silent movies were shown a lot on PBS channel 11…and I grew up watching
them as a kid

I wasn’t born in the 20s.

But silent movies and shows like Charlie Chaplin( short movies) and the little rascals
started in the 20s. How did we learn about them and watch them. They were re-presented and shown again during the 60s,70s,80s

Honeymooners, I luv Lucy, Abbot and Costello ….James Cagney movies ( the first gangster/
Mafia actor)

I’m not sure why you think that is trolling…or maybe you’re just limited in your thinking.

Yes I'm sure it was kids all over the country watching cartoons, Little Rascals, Three Stooges and then turned the TV to Chaplin on PBS.

It was a biopic not a silent movie. Everything going on in the movie and you lean on the physical to explain why RDJ would get the Oscar before Denzel, if it was up to you. What ?


You reduce Hurricane to boxing. smh

I guess Will Sasso was robbed when he didn't get anything for his role in the Three Stooges movie.

FOH...
Say some shit...
Spit some lines...
Then we can talk about "good acting"
....

How you even open your hands to type Denzel "The Gawd" Washington as Malcom X in the same sentence as a fuckin.

Charlie Chaplin and RDJ????
FOH.

but I will say I think calling RDJ an all out hack is a bit overboard. One movie of his that I like and think think he did a top notch job in was Kiss Kiss Bang Bang. Top notch whodunit movie that was a good blend of suspense and comedy; RDJ did his thing in that flick as it's possible that movie could have floundered in the wrong hands.

If you haven't seen it, I highly suggest giving it a watch.

I'll have to track that movie down myself now that I'm typing this response out as I haven't seen that movie in quite a long time.

performance, and so did Denzel in Malcolm X.

The AA disagrees with you.

And you're acting like Best Actor is an Oscar for physical performance.

Jim Carrey should have like nine oscars in that case smh.

but i digress.

especially when it comes to a bio-pic. The brilliance of Jamie as Ray Charles was
that not only did he impersonate his voice, but he captured his physical movements
and mannerisms as well.

RDJjr did that as well with Chaplin, and Denzel did a good job of expressing
Malcolm’s mannerisms.

the movie. Because that's the only way to see the acting. Watch the movie.

No one is still watching Chaplin or Scent of a Woman. Or Crash. Or Driving Miss Daisy (which had great acting performances BTW) Or Greenbok.

I've already said Angela Bassett wasn't better than Jamie Lee Curtis this year so I am not saying these things out of racial loyalty. I am saying this because the Oscars get it wrong a lot when it comes to choosing "the Best" anything for any given year.

And the true test of what's the best in any given year is to see the movies people are still watching. I watched Cool Hand Luke this weekend why, because its still one of the best...


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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

There are tons of terrible movies with great acting in them.

Lincoln was an underwhelming movie, but the acting by DDL was
superb.

Alien Covenant was horrible, but Michael Fassbender as an AI was a brilliant
performance.

Mystic River is another one…a lot of people thought it was a horrible movie, But Sean
Penn and Tim Robbins both won AA for the movie.

There can be great acting in a bad movie, and a great movie with bad acting. Those
elements aren’t mutually exclusive.

They weren’t THAT great BEFORE Downey left and Boseman died

Now those movies are consistently basura, but the defenders are more more aggressive than they’ve ever been

Weird

with more pictures. But it seems something is wrong that a 100M+ movie competes against a 5M+ or less movie. There really should be different categories based on budgets.

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"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

I thought screen time may have hurt Bassett but Wakanda was long af.. lol.

Eddie is the one who was robbed.



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in a comic book/superhero movie.

She gave a stronger performance as Betty Shabazz.


LMAO...y'all wild.

>LMAO...y'all wild.

https://www.facebook.com/reel/707602650742491?mibextid=0NULKw&fs=e&s=TIeQ9V

There was zero black input besides read this line.

>There was zero black input besides read this line.

.

Messiah?



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But they are all grouped under the black voices categorie on everything streaming. Tenet is under black voices segregated much.

to figure them out

But she never had a chance of winning because the award is about recognition or politics. As mentioned above, Curtis didnt even have the best supporting female performance in her own film.

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"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"