https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/zyj3ll/andrew_and_tristan_tate_were_arrested_they_are

I don't really know who this guy is, but he has a billion YouTube shorts that don't make any sense and keep popping up. Anyway, this is hilarious because he started a Twitter war with Greta Thunberg for no reason and it got him arrested....LOL!

guess he's some kind of lemme show you how to be alpha, guru

because nothing says i'm so alpha like picking a fight with an awkward teenage girl on the internet... only to get owned by her.

and that's even before the drawing attention to yourself and going to jail for human trafficking in the process, part of it lol

I think he's not to be taken seriously, and he's not nearly as dangerous as the mainstream Liberals paint him to be.

He's the mulatto Howard Stern, a new guy liberals want us to hate. I don't see the difference between Andrew or the other 1,000 guys saying the same sh*t. What makes him so bad?

David Goggins is way harder than Tate LOL.


http://art-------school.com/

https://ibb.co/k4m6n8C

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

http://art-------school.com/

https://ibb.co/k4m6n8C

He literally just talks sh*t, it's BARBERSHOP COMMENTARY.


http://art-------school.com/

https://ibb.co/k4m6n8C

Yes I've read the quote, and that’s what he said

Now he’s been arrested for human trafficking

Weird how you say to free him, but don’t have a word to say about the charges though, which do include rape.

He doesn’t need “help” from “the liberals” to get people to dislike him
He’s done a fine job of that all by himself

You say you don’t see the difference between him and the 1,000 other guys who say the same shit, but there’s always someone who raises their profile enough to get this sort of attention, and he’s done that. Even of someone else “goes harder”.

I don’t see how you don’t take someone seriously when they say women are property.

Whether or not the charges stick remains to be seen.
But to say “free him” in light of the charges, before it’s gotten sorted out, is…. Something.

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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

http://art-------school.com/

https://ibb.co/k4m6n8C

>Yes I've read the quote, and that’s what he said
>
>Now he’s been arrested for human trafficking
>
>Weird how you say to free him, but don’t have a word to say
>about the charges though, which do include rape.
>
>He doesn’t need “help” from “the liberals” to get
>people to dislike him
>He’s done a fine job of that all by himself
>
>You say you don’t see the difference between him and the
>1,000 other guys who say the same shit, but there’s always
>someone who raises their profile enough to get this sort of
>attention, and he’s done that. Even of someone else “goes
>harder”.
>
>I don’t see how you don’t take someone seriously when they
>say women are property.
>
>Whether or not the charges stick remains to be seen.
>But to say “free him” in light of the charges, before
>it’s gotten sorted out, is…. Something.


http://art-------school.com/

https://ibb.co/k4m6n8C

I don't know if the quote is true but it probably is, he's a braggard so it's probably true.

I assume he'll buy his way out of it and leave Romania for Bulgaria or Austria or Thailand.

Free Top G.


http://art-------school.com/

https://ibb.co/k4m6n8C

>I think he's not to be taken seriously, and he's not nearly
>as dangerous as the mainstream Liberals paint him to be.
>
>He's the mulatto Howard Stern, a new guy liberals want us to
>hate. I don't see the difference between Andrew or the other
>1,000 guys saying the same sh*t. What makes him so bad?
>
>David Goggins is way harder than Tate LOL.
>
>
>>http://art-------school.com/
>
>>https://ibb.co/k4m6n8C

Like outside of the extremely online?

I suppose this Greta episode will give him more profile and mmybe he'll become the guy you're describing (assuming he doesn't get locked up) but yea, had never heard of him

Apparently he's got quite a following among boys and young men.

Hope he goes away for a long time.

And fuck anyone downplaying his hate speech.

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

is that his market?

there's always a #1 MRA pied piper and he's been it for the last year or two

if you know anyone who teaches middle school or high school they've probably dealt with kids who are obsessed with his shit


but it's not just that, my wife's biological father is...divorced dad stereotype, watches mgtow videos on youtube. he's been a tate fan.

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

known social media platform.

He's the new bad guy.

http://art-------school.com/

https://ibb.co/k4m6n8C

i'd never heard of dude and he had like 4m IG followers and probably 20% of people i know* IRL were following him.

*some of them i'd call friends but mostly just acquaintances or people i see often in the gym or at work stuff

followed Trump on Twitter and I can't think of one that voted for him.



http://art-------school.com/

https://ibb.co/k4m6n8C

some of these problematic people are entertaining as all hell to keep it 100

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

You even use a nickname I had to google to make sure I read that correctly.

So yeah, you support him.

It doesn't matter if you say you don't.
You've already said plenty that shows that you do.

No idea if he’s guilty or not, but he’s an unabashed Trumper and he went out of his way to pick a fight with a teenage girl.

He’s a fucking clown at best, and a piece of shit criminal at worst. Fuck him either way.

Oh no he likes Trump, I hope he gets double life!


http://art-------school.com/

https://ibb.co/k4m6n8C

I wish them all nothing but the worst.

A horrible take.

He came across my radar because he made some vague gestures about respecting Islam and some Muslim's ladies sounded the alarm about who he was and what he stood for.
Apparently he respects us because we keep our women in check and kill anyone who disrespects us,
Even the briefest scan of his history shows he's a piece of shit.

…

http://art-------school.com/

https://ibb.co/k4m6n8C

Free Top G.

I don't know much about him but he pisses off the soy boys & the libs, that's honestly good enough for me. I assume he's a criminal though because he does NOT come from money if he is actually Emory Tate's son.


http://art-------school.com/

https://ibb.co/k4m6n8C

http://art-------school.com/

https://ibb.co/k4m6n8C

http://art-------school.com/

https://ibb.co/k4m6n8C

You can't ask that question until you can acknowledge that gender is a construct, and sex is not.

Of course, once you understand that fact, you don't ask that question, because you've already gained the understanding necessary to know that it's a nonsense question that can't even qualify as a "gotcha", since it's already based on a false premise.

If he is guilty of the charges I hope he fucking gets what he deserves. Dude is so cringy

I've seen him on a couple of pods. he definitely doesn't like women as humans.

is hilarious.

We really need to stop promoting these narcissistic dudes online. Weird how popular these types are these days.

Leona Helmsley gives an interview and says, 'Only little people pay taxes'. She subsequently went to trial in 1989 on charges of income tax evasion and eventually went to jail.

Drug Dealer Nicky Barnes, Mr. UnTouchable, poses on the cover of the New York Times Magazine with the headline. “The Police Say He May Be Harlem’s Biggest Drug Dealer. But Can They Prove It?”

The answer is yes. After the article he ended up doing 20 years in prison.

When these folks and others like they ultimately reap what they sow, and there misdeeds catch up with them, we didn't think there was a conspiracy to bring them down. We saw it as a comeuppance.

These days though.

https://twitter.com/Crypto_Fuchure/status/1608623174480203777


Yeah laws are enforced unequally, but when you bring enough heat on yourself, you will definitely increase the odds of law enforcement starting to scrutinize you more. That's not a conspiracy, that's life.




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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

about public figures. it's probably a billion entertainers in the Illuminati. the difference now is the internet.

hard to escape. so much information, much of it is salacious, but yet entertaining. all these platforms give us way more access to trash takes, but trash takes have existed as long as we have.

I think they see the heights of success, and since *they* can’t achieve that level of success, or land anywhere close, the only real possibility is some otherworldly conspiracy of sacrifice.

Similarly with Tate, these people agree with him, and look up to him.

Since they can’t accept that he may have actually done what he’s accused of, and think he’s only going down for espousing views they agree with? Conspiracy!

I’m not saying people make these connections overtly, but I suspect the process is somewhere close to that.

There are also people who are just prone to conspiratorial thinking, connecting dots that aren’t really there, but look good on paper. They never have any real information to connect though. See the “Donda was sacrificed” crowd. These people form conclusions with no real evidence.

You can't commit crazy crimes, talk shit, and then whine when you get got.

Or you can then continue to whine about Cancel Culture.

Fuck that dude and the WOKE bullshit garbage excuses that come out of his mouth.

Prediction:He's a small time pimp who talks too much shit and will get some time for small time pimping.

theres 1000s more who will never see a cell.

and blasts it to the world, him being in jail ain't part of the cancellation, that's just a bonus.

I don't believe in "Free Speech" (it does not exist here) so someone getting cancelled doesn't surprise me, I just don't like the fact that corporations are the ones that decide who & what gets cancelled.

If Andrew Tate only appealed to the "drill music" fanbase of Black America, he would not get canceled. Same as when Ye was saying crazy sh*t about Black people, it's all BS.

http://art-------school.com/

https://ibb.co/k4m6n8C

https://twitter.com/calleymeans/status/1609929026889711617

Pretty lengthy thread describing his crimes. Its way worse than you'd think

You posted about Coca Cola using racism charges to promote sugar.

https://twitter.com/crabcrawler1/status/1514798714652561409

Big bad alpha male got The biggest L in 2022 handed to him by an autistic teenage girl.

smh

Completely unforced error. He was making 10s of Millions a year (Maybe a month, at one point - his reported subs were crazy)

I do not understand being so paid and yet allowing yourself to be bothered.

Dummy.

dude has been bubbling up for a minute...but he never trended on twitter until he was on the twitch stream of popular streamer adin ross.

then folks like nelk boys, the various crypto bro podcasts, the various joe rogan friends podcasts, etc started bringing him on when they realized he was great for views/engagement and amplification by the algorithm.

plus theres a concerted effort to funnel viewers to him to be 'red pilled'...by right wing trolls, foreign gov and non gov operators, etc. a lot those folks pushing him on tiktok, message boards, etc.

When we were in college, someone got another friend of ours the book "The Art of Mackin" by King Flex. We would crack up reading his advice but we always knew it was bullshit for laughs.

20 years later dude rebrands himself Tariq Nasheed and has a massive following.

I am never surprised that people are saying crazy things because we have always heard people say crazy things but I am surprised how seriously and elevated these people are these days.

Even Dave Chappelle, I was watching an old Chappelle Special, like killing me softly, and what I realized is Chappelle's content has not changed in 20 years. It's not like he has gone further reactionary/homophobic/etc. and I wouldn't even agree with Right Wing talking points that say that audiences have become more "woke" or more humorless. But I will say that we are elevating and taking more serious people we didn't take very serious 20 years ago.

That goes for Donald Trump, Dave Chapelle, Joe Rogan or Tariq Nasheed. We knew 20 years ago they were clowns and not people to be taking too seriously.

I mean look at this Andrew Tate guy. From the little I know of himsince he was arrested, it's clear dude is a dirt bag. But what I did recognize is this guys "content" is really no different from any rap lyrics. Like to me his buffoonery is that he is attempting to live the lifestyle that Jay-Z described in his rhymes for 20 years.

But we do seem to treat and regard rappers and Andrew Tate and Joe Rogan differently right? I am not sure why we regard them differently other than for some reason we take these YouTubers seriously and we don't take rappers very seriously.

IDK. I don't know very much about these world but I do wonder how influential a guy like Andrew Tate is. Like see the subscriber count and see he makes millions but is he more influential than Drake on how young people actually think and relate to other people?

IDK. I am rambling here. Just don't know if squashing these guys is the real solution or changing how we perceive them. We use to say rap music shouldn't be raising your kids and I kinda feel like the same goes for YouTubers.


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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

Not sure why you included Dave in this list of “clowns”

the bulk of his jokes about how shitty white people are but you lump him in with people who put out content that harms people who look like us.

The biggest problem with Dave Chappelle is taking him too seriously and not recognizing he is a comedian telling jokes. Somehow in the last decade or so he has been elevated to the status of public intellectual and holding him to a standard he shouldn't be held (part of the problem is DC has come to think of himself one as well IMHOP). Like it's wild to me that in 2023 people would get offended calling a comedian a clown.

And Again I am not so sure how much it is the content that harms people. Who is Tariq Nasheed's content harming? DC detractors will tell you that his content harms LGBTQ people who look like us.





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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

>The biggest problem with Dave Chappelle is taking him too
>seriously and not recognizing he is a comedian telling jokes.
>Somehow in the last decade or so he has been elevated to the
>status of public intellectual and holding him to a standard he
>shouldn't be held (part of the problem is DC has come to think
>of himself one as well IMHOP).

...and it's exactly why I avoid most Chappelle posts in OKP.

Seems like Dave is just telling jokes.

>Seems like Dave is just telling jokes.

That's literally what I've been saying.

My words..."The biggest problem with Dave Chappelle is taking him too seriously and not recognizing he is a comedian TELLING JOKES."

It's Legs who is for some reason butt hurt that I called someone who tells jokes a clown.



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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

>>Seems like Dave is just telling jokes.
>
>That's literally what I've been saying.
>
>My words..."The biggest problem with Dave Chappelle is taking
>him too seriously and not recognizing he is a comedian TELLING
>JOKES."
>
>It's Legs who is for some reason butt hurt that I called
>someone who tells jokes a clown.

Comics want it both ways

They either think they’re speaking truth to power, taking a stand, etc, or it’s just shits and giggles- but if your material involves social commentary, it can’t be both.

They- and their stans- also want those jokes to be a one way street, for people to just shut the fuck up and laugh at whatever they say, and tk leep their goddamned opinion to themselves

It doesn’t work that way

You don’t want people to comment on your shit, don’t spit it in public

My position is:

Anything is up for jokes. Anything at all.

But

You have no right to bitch and moan if it’s not well recieved
You have to take the good with the bad

"part of the problem is DC has come to think
>of himself one as well IMHOP)."

Does Dave really think he is some public intellectual ? Nah

The biggest problem with Dave is not not taking him too seriously, it's the people overreacting to his jokes and comments.

Saying he is obsessed with Trans or he is the same as the rightwing nut jobs.

the profound intellectual we need right now.

I mean have you seen his Mark Twain Award Special?


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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

what he's doing when he talks about himself.

>I mean have you seen his Mark Twain Award Special?
>

I watched it a long time ago. He talked about the artform and being honest. Nothing about the "profound intellectual we need right now"

so of course some people will think his jokes and story telling is a way of saying he is the smartest person in the world.

Dave jokes himself so much I don’t see how anyone can take what he says and twist it like this..

but its twitter culture and people are really good at creating false narratives to get their rocks off

which he is

He's a grifter that made money off people he looked down on with the cam girls, and he realized he could also make money off of this demographic directly as a con artist spinning recycled MRA talking points

There are right-wing folks that have cult followings online but I'm more worried about what is going on IRL with guys like Paul Waggener pushing Western / White chauvinism and opening compounds with pagan rituals and combat training

This mf is terrigying. What the fuck is going on with (SOME) White men?

I was trying not to generalize but all these karen sightings aren't isolated incidents.

https://twitter.com/getthistraight/status/1610484521505366021?t=7JODGfXFwQffBtlmPAwJ-g&s=19

The quote from him is pretty awful. I hope he burns. Like he is dispecable and there is a special place in hell for pimps.

There is a question of whether what he describes is illegal though.


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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

fish.

His lifestyle comes across as "mafia/organized crime" related.

http://art-------school.com/

https://ibb.co/k4m6n8C

"connected to organize crime". Is he hanging out with criminals at the club, is he taking their money. Like what exactly is he doing illegal.


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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

if he's running a 'webcam' biz, and other money making schemes, maybe certain people need their taste?

Its funny that these guys think they are so clever, but then expose themselves to such liability it so clear they are dumb asses.



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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

even in romania, once you're beating someone to make them do work they don't want to do in captivity you've crossed the legal lines.


the trick is getting arrested for it, and the evidence is a lot of so-n-so said you did this

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

We all know sex trafficking is illegal. And We all know beating someone or otherwise using force to get them to have sex is illegal sex trafficking.

The thing I shared doesn't describe that. What I shared describes talking girls into doing webcam by convincing them you are in love with them. That is what I am wondering is strong enough to build a case of sex trafficking. I think it has to be more than that.

I know misrepresenting what someone says is a way to get them to interact with you, but there has to be a better way for you.




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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

The women who came forth have injuries. They weren't just talked to...

and didn't leave any out

that's a reasonable assumption.

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

https://www.europol.europa.eu/media-press/newsroom/news/lover-boys-cashing-in-girlfriends-arrested-in-france


He can call them "girlfriends" all he wants lol. Prosecuters aren't dumb. His intent was to recruit vulnerable women with the explicit intent to coax them into sex work.

Pretty straightforward to prosecute I'd think, especially with Tate telling on himself nonstop. Link above cites previous prosecutions for exactly this, in the same region.

and he threatens them and beats the shit out of them

then is it illegal?

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

It's illegal to coerce or force a woman into sex work.

You all might think I am splitting hairs but its the difference between jail time and not.

What he described in the quote, sounds like coaxing not coercion.

If the ladies can show that they were threatened or otherwise made to feel they had to do it, then yeah he is sunk.

At this point it sounds like there will be women who will say he forced them to do sex work so its a moot point. Beyond being a terrible person, dude is a dumbass because he's stated enough terrible shit it won't be hard for anyone or jury to believe anything they say about this guy.

My simple point early, which RJCC can't follow (or is just trolling) is that what Tate describe above isn't a crime (despite all the people subtweeting that it is) and they will need more than that to convict (at least in the US).




>https://www.europol.europa.eu/media-press/newsroom/news/lover-boys-cashing-in-girlfriends-arrested-in-france
>
>
>He can call them "girlfriends" all he wants lol. Prosecuters
>aren't dumb. His intent was to recruit vulnerable women with
>the explicit intent to coax them into sex work.
>
>Pretty straightforward to prosecute I'd think, especially with
>Tate telling on himself nonstop. Link above cites previous
>prosecutions for exactly this, in the same region.


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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

Does anyone on OKP have even a basic working knowledge of Romanian law?

Curious to see how it plays out. Homie seems like a real piece of shit, and def snitched on himself. Not sure what his journey through the Romanian legal system is going to look like, though.

I say this as someone who has had significant disagreements with him on legal issues (adnan, Tyson if memory serves).

Sure, I gave him the business on both subjects and easily turned his feeble arguments into Thanos dust and sending him running with his tail between his legs, but that's beside the point

IMO, whether or not he has a grasp of Romanian law, he does have an understanding of general legal concepts, so I wouldn't call his input "silly", even if they didn't necessarily coincide with their laws.

But I do agree that there is an obvious issue when discussing from a strictly American understanding of the law. But it's still a worthwhile discussion.

I still don't know who much the difference between coaxing and coercing plays into Romanian law. So i'm not seeing a tremendous amount of value in discussing the nuance of how US law is written. Not the worst legal discussion I've seen online either, though.

Dude is quoted as saying '40 percent of the reason i moved to Romania was because rape laws are more lenient there.'

So we'll see. He's def a piece of shit, and in terms of snitching on himself, he seems to have done a fine job.

Look how they define in under Romanian law isn't much difference than how a lot of states define it.


"Sexual intercourse, oral or anal intercourse with a person, committed by constraint, by rendering the person in question unable to defend themselves or to express their will or by taking advantage of such state"


Rape is having sex with someone without their consent. I don't think there is any where in the world where you would be convicted of rape for coaxing (standardly defined as "gently and persistently persuade (someone) to do something.") a person to do sex work.

If sex cam work isn't criminal in Romanian, then persuading someone to do sex cam work isn't a crime. That's not hard to figure out. Of course there are nuances in the law but I am not hearing them.

However, if he gave them drugs, if he held their passports, and even if the women stated he made them feel unsafe to say no, Yeah he is in trouble.




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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

I have no idea the differences in burden of proof, etc. Sheeit, we don't even have an accurate understanding of the actual facts, and we're over here discussing the difference between coercion and coaxing.

The concept of rape isn't really that different in a lot of places, but how trials work, what defenses this dumb dumb is allowed to use, who determines guilt (judge vs. jury?), what the standards are when deciding coercion vs. coaxing... kind of who gives a shit. It's all kind of silly to me.

To my original point most online legal discussions are really dumb because they're primarily discussed based on facts that have been gleaned from media coverage and there is very little consideration of the veracity of these facts. Dude has some youtube clips that make him look pretty bad, i guess. I don't know that any youtube clip alone would get you convicted or exonerated no matter what you said, though. A trial hasn't even started yet.

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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

his only point is that, for some reason, he only considers what Tate said to be reliable.

that's a weird way to be.

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

Do you believe there is anyone here who actually believes I believe what you attributed to me? Then why do it? What is your point?

Are you ok? Aren't you, if not already, approaching 40?

This really how you want to be well into adulthood? Making up arguments for other people so they will respond to you when they are clearly trying to ignore you? Is it you aren't getting the attention at home?

Hey man if you want to talk about it I'm here. You don't have to go about it like this.




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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

this is you right?

"The thing I shared doesn't describe that. What I shared describes talking girls into doing webcam by convincing them you are in love with them.."

did I make that up?

I don't know why you're too dumb to then go find more information which is easily available.

That's your problem.

nobody made up anything, you made bizarre argument about whether or not dude was doing illegal shit based on one video.

That's a dumb thing to do but you did it.


www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

In the interest of good faith, I will break it down slowly.


In #59 I shared a tweet where a woman talks about sex trafficking and andrew tate and his use of the loverboy method to get women to do webcam sex work. They used direct quotes from him as he describes his loverboy method and describe it as sex trafficking.

I responded that sounds terrible, but I don't know if what he describes in a tweet is a crime contrary to what the girl in the tic tok says.

In #75 you responded to my post by stating the obvious, sex trafficking is illegal.

In #77 I agreed with the obvious (sex trafficking is illegal). But I haven't seen any evidence of him forcing (i.e, beating or otherwise coercing women). Not saying it doesn't exist, I just haven't seen it. The folks in the tik tok and the subtweets seem to think the loverboy method is enough, I don't think it is enough to show force. So again, my very simple point is that what's described in the video is enough. My words are "I think it has to be more than that".

Since that exchange people have shared more.

I never argued that he didn't do anything illegal. I argued that the loverboy method isn't enough by itself isn't enough to prove sex trafficking which is the point of the original tik tok I shared.

Can you follow now?





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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

I assume you'll apologize, correct?
>I never argued that he didn't do anything illegal.


this isn't the discussion, and it's telling that you want to change it to something that wasn't said.

>I responded that sounds terrible, but I don't know if what he describes in a tweet is a crime contrary to what the girl in the tic tok says.

this is 100% correct! It's also describing a weird, bizarre thing to say. There's absolutely no reason to take the position that what you heard him say actually directly reflects the criminal part of the endeavor.

no one asked!

and hey, maybe you need to hear him say that he hit them to believe that he might have done that. you'd be a dumbass if you did, because anyone with a brain realizes that mere convincing won't work for long and violence and forced captivity will obviously be necessary, but it isn't illegal to be stupid.

> But I haven't seen any evidence of him forcing (i.e, beating or otherwise coercing women).

again, no one asked what evidence you've seen, you aren't a judge or juror, no one sent you the case file. what you've seen or not is irrelevant and entirely limited only by your own ignorance


so now we've established that you're responding to an argument you've created about whether or not you said that what he did was illegal, and actually, you said you haven't seen evidence of his crime, which is a dumber thing to say and completely unnecessary.

let's get into why no one else is asking this question you made up, and no one needs to

"I never argued that he didn't do anything illegal. I argued that the loverboy method isn't enough by itself isn't enough to prove sex trafficking which is the point of the original tik tok I shared."

"I argued that the loverboy method isn't enough by itself isn't enough to prove sex trafficking"

You argued that the method, named and described by the police in the statement explaining he was arrested for sex trafficking, isn't by itself enough to "prove" sex trafficking.

Since no one has to "prove" sex trafficking to you, based on one video, to arrest someone, this is a stupid statement to make, and it's not an argument, since there's no other side.

the loverboy method always, every single time, includes the elements Tate didn't mention in his video. And the police had long explained that before you posted his comment.

You didn't listen to them.

You listened to one clip of him talking and for some reason decided to treat that as the only information you could use.

Why'd you do that, only you know the answer



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I just said that only the dumbest motherfucker in the entire world would think it's even vaguely relevant to consider whether or not a criminal's description of their criminal activity is entirely accurate and leaves nothing out.

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>My simple point early, which RJCC can't follow (or is just trolling) is that what Tate describe above isn't a crime (despite all the people subtweeting that it is) and they will need more than that to convict (at least in the US).


this is you, focusing only on tate's description, right? this is you claiming other people are talking about his description as the only evidence they have?

even though no one's doing that, because no one with a brain would


did somebody hack your shit buddy?

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Even in the US there's such a thing as rape by deception.

I'm not sure how you're making such a clear jail/no jail distinction here.

who other than buddy is asking this question?

it isn't why he was arrested.

it isn't why people think he's a criminal.

so why's buddy acting like he didn't say this?


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BTW, I have a kid I went to school with who is trying really hard to fill the void left by this guy and Kevin Samuels.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CmwhUI1BZ_C/


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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOc8LygTlEs

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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

we were all waiting for that.

...is apparently what you think

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I don't know why you needed to hear Andrew Tate tell you he committed crimes to believe there's evidence he committed crimes.

that's some weird shit


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https://www.thecut.com/2023/01/andrew-tate-investigation-romania.html

Now, Tate and his brother Tristan just so happen to be suspects in a lengthy Romanian investigation into human trafficking and rape. Months ago, in April of 2022, the Romania residence where the brothers live was raided by the country’s authorities, which local newspapers said was a police response to a report that an American woman was being held at the house against her will. The American woman was found, alongside a Romanian woman who was also there unwillingly, per local reports. Responding to a request from the Daily Beast, Tristan denied that any women were found in the house.

On December 29, Andrew Tate and his brother Tristan were arrested by Romania’s Directorate for Investigating Organized Crime and Terrorism (DIICOT), ostensibly in connection with the same case. Investigators suspect Tate and his brother are part of a group that forces women to work as cam girls through “physical violence and mental coercion (intimidation, constant surveillance, control and the invoking of alleged debts).” Prosecutors described what essentially amounts to a sex-trafficking ring, saying they believe the four suspects who were arrested “created an organized crime group with the purpose of recruiting, housing, and exploiting women by forcing them to create pornographic content meant to be seen on specialized websites for a cost.” Two women who allegedly helped him run the business, Luana Radu and Georgiana Naghel, were also detained.

to internal prison culture.

them tate boys about to become their own version of cam girls.

https://youtu.be/Nj1JSlKzHtc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UERNc0aIEwY

The mental gymnastics and caping he does for Tate is downright goofy.

No wonder he thought Meg was lying!

Dude forgot he's a clown.

https://www.cracked.com/article_37719_janelle-james-says-that-dave-chappelle-has-forgotten-that-hes-a-clown.html


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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

to reduce his work and existence to that is to belittle and misrepresent him. thats a simple minded pandering take from her and she's way off code to put that out there.

since she wants to be a clown maybe she can fill that Tiffany Haddish lane since its open now

I opened this thread thinking there was an update on Andrew Tate

fucking weirdo shit.

Dave got you like this? smh.. let go fam.

Nah

every few months there's another comedy personality talking about what chappelle 'problem' is. and even though this one is pretending to not be about the trans stuff, it's about the trans stuff lol

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-65351270

forgot about him until this post was upped... LOL!

They was talking all the trafficking shit, I thought he was gonna get proper charges. House Arrest? Even temporarily seems incredibly light, given what he's accused of.

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I guess he got this one right...

https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/20/europe/andrew-tate-charges-trial-intl-gbr/index.html

this is the kinda degenerate that elon musks twitter algo consistently amplifies on the for you page.

Dude comes up

and i hate how you cant search twitter or view the current trends unless you are logged in.

Gotta give up that ghost. It's gone.

he’s like 12. I gotta nip that shit in the bud.