At least Lorne keeps banking beer commercial money!!!!

Poll question: Dave Chappelle / Black Star on SNL November 12,2022

Poll result (27 votes) YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS (22 votes) Vote Give Republicans a chance to govern, don't prejudge them (2 votes) Vote OH YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS (0 votes) Vote Hope Talib catches a flat on the way to the studio (3 votes) Vote YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS (0 votes) Vote Sneak Kayne in disguised as Louis C.K. (0 votes) Vote

don't remember if he's been back between the time right after the 2016 election

Soooo...yes and no. Definitely dem doom. But he's been back since, ha.

they thought trump was gonna win again

That's dope.

I wonder if they'll do 2 new songs or 1 new and 1 classic.

I dont even think Black Star of the early 2000s could have made it on SNL. Let alone, the washed up version.

That Black Star album was mid as hell and Chappelle... well...

He is too funny to pass on that.

Kweli might try to rush onto weekend update

I guess he laughs a bit on Midnight Miracle but yeah.


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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

It's live network tv so maybe he can go without telling any trans jokes?!?


If I were a writer pitching bits to him I would pitch a bit where he meets some of his new fans and he hates them. I would even do it as a riff of that old SNL skit where Captain Kirk meets some of his fans.



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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

dude got Black Star on SNL and you want him to bend the knee?

nope..

Now not telling trans jokes is a sign of weakness??!

He has to keep telling trans jokes to own the libs??

Not telling jokes about trans would just mean their are other jokes he knows how to tell.


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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

.....

i saw him earlier this year, he briefly hit the topic once, but it wasn't a focal point like the closer. at most he'll prob just talk about all the smoke surrounding it.

but if you're looking for some kind of mea culpa sketch, yea that's not happening.

then scream SIKE! FOH niggas..

and laugh

Give me Definition on SNL like it shouldve been done back in the day

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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

Dave’s monologue was incredible.

Lots of good sketches. Some were whatever but good stuff overall.

Black Star was great. Think it was a very missed opportunity to not do an old song, but I understand why. Just think it’d help them drum up more interest in them as a group and have people seek out the new album but what do I know.

Dave really makes this show better whenever he does it.

He used the platform to say controversial stuff worth saying.

Potato Hole sketch was inspired. The game of thrones one was meh. The weekend update was as good as it gets, Black star was meh (like their new album).



**********
"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

I wish they did Respiration, but hey.

Dave going in on Herschel was hilarious.

The monologue, Potato Hole, the barber shop. Those alone would’ve been good enough for me. Everything else was icing on the cake. Loved Blackstar

the barber shop was hilarious. Loved the Atlanta shoutout.

So was Potato Hole. So was the monologue.

Trudging out those old characters for the Thrones parody was super stale, tho. With all the time that took they should have done a song and video short with Dave and Black Star.

i seriously had to pause and laugh for like 5 minutes on the part where he talked about kanye saying 'i can say antisemitic things and adidas cant drop me...now what?'.

'adidas dropped that nigga immediately'.

lmaoooooooooooo

I'm always impressed when stand up comedians work with extra current events. Shows how funny they really are.

I don't know how much writing and revising and workshopping went into it. But it feels like he went up there and just started talking. And it was hilarious.

link: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/snl-dave-chappelle-controversy-antisemitism-1235261137/?ref=upstract.com

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‘SNL’ Slammed for Dave Chappelle Monologue: “Popularizing Anti-Semitism”
The Anti-Defamation League called out the NBC late-night show after Chappelle's comments about the Jewish community.


BY JAMES HIBBERD


NOVEMBER 13, 2022 7:15PM

Dave Chappelle was on TV again.

This time, the divisive comic spent the bulk of an extended monologue on Saturday Night Live giving his thoughts on Kanye “Ye” West’s rants about the Jewish community.

On Sunday, the Anti-Defamation League CEO Jonathan Greenblatt criticized the NBC program, accusing the late-night staple of “popularizing anti-Semitism.”

“We shouldn’t expect @DaveChappelle to serve as society’s moral compass, but disturbing to see @nbcsnl not just normalize but popularize #antisemitism,” he wrote on Twitter. “Why are Jewish sensitivities denied or diminished at almost every turn? Why does our trauma trigger applause?

The Jerusalem Post tweeted: “The American comedian Dave Chappelle said during his SNL monologue that he ‘denounces antisemitism in all its forms’…before promptly engaging in antisemitic tropes.”

While Time Out New York theater editor and critic Adam Feldman tweeted: “That Dave Chappelle SNL monologue probably did more to normalize anti-Semitism than anything Kanye said. Everyone knows Kanye is nuts. Chappelle posits himself as a teller of difficult truths. It’s worse.”

Yet Tangle News founder Isaac Saul tweeted: “Let me be the first Jew to say: Dave Chappelle’s SNL open last night was hilarious, timely, honest, and a reminder that he still understands this country better than a lot of people whose whole job is to understand the country. It’s okay to acknowledge there are a lot of Jews in media and Hollywood. And like Dave said, you can simultaneously note that it’s very stupid to think this means they are in some cabal controlling the world.”

Chappelle’s 15-minute monologue has racked up 3.2 million views in less than 24 hours on YouTube – more than any other SNL video since last May. It included comments such as Chappelle saying Ye broke “the show business rules of perception…if they’re Black, then it’s a gang. If they’re Italian, it’s a mob. But if they’re Jewish, it’s a coincidence and you should never speak about it.” (For full context, the monologue is below.)

He added: “I’ve been to Hollywood…this is what I saw: It’s a lot of Jews. Like, a lot. But that doesn’t mean anything! There’s a lot of Black people in Ferguson, Missouri. Doesn’t mean they run the place.” The comedian said he understood how somebody could “adopt the delusion” that Jewish people “run show business…it’s not a crazy thing to think. But it’s a crazy thing to say out loud in a climate like this.”

Chappelle also discussed NBA star Kyrie Irving, who recently was suspended from the Brooklyn Nets after he shared a link to the documentary Hebrews to Negroes: Wake Up Black America, a film that contains anti-Semitic sentiments. “He was slow to apologize,” Chappelle said. “And then the list of demands to get back in their good graces got longer and longer, and this is where I draw the line: I know the Jewish people have been through terrible things all over the world, but you can’t blame that on black Americans. You just can’t.”

Before the monologue, Chappelle unfolded a piece of paper and read a dutiful statement — “I denounce anti-Semitism in all its forms, and I stand with my friends in the Jewish community” — and then added, “And that, Kanye, is how you buy yourself some time.”

The uproar follows Chappelle receiving considerable blowback for two Netflix specials where he criticized the trans rights movement and made jokes that many felt were transphobic.

Last year, Chappelle won an Emmy Award for, ironically enough, hosting Saturday Night Live.

The Hollywood Reporter has reached out to NBC for comment.

**edit**
**end of swipe**

For the record, I don't fully agree with the ADL here, I'm just presenting the news regarding them raising umbrage. Wonder what NBC will do next.

No matter what you actually say, if it covers certain topics, someone is gonna swing in on a rope and say/type something saying you should've have said what you said. At this point, I see a lot of it as bad faith/performative complaining. Some of it might be fair but even then, the 'oh no!!!' of it all is usually overblown and people trying to get clicks.

Hopefully NBC keeps it moving. SNL is a sketch comedy show that makes fun of stuff and people of various ilk, usually in mildly clever ways, not usually in overtly 'mean-spirited' ways. And really, no one there is actually 'in charge' of anything. I wish these websites and twittery folks would be more 'up in arms' and/or 'in the weeds' on how a Hershel Walker type could fetch anywhere near roughly half of the votes for any kind of 'real elected office position' from any subset of human beings in the US.

>link:
>https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/snl-dave-chappelle-controversy-antisemitism-1235261137/?ref=upstract.com
>
>swipe:
>
>‘SNL’ Slammed for Dave Chappelle Monologue:
>“Popularizing Anti-Semitism”
>The Anti-Defamation League called out the NBC late-night show
>after Chappelle's comments about the Jewish community.
>
>
>BY JAMES HIBBERD
>
>
>NOVEMBER 13, 2022 7:15PM
>
>Dave Chappelle was on TV again.
>
>This time, the divisive comic spent the bulk of an extended
>monologue on Saturday Night Live giving his thoughts on Kanye
>“Ye” West’s rants about the Jewish community.
>
>On Sunday, the Anti-Defamation League CEO Jonathan Greenblatt
>criticized the NBC program, accusing the late-night staple of
>“popularizing anti-Semitism.”
>
>“We shouldn’t expect @DaveChappelle to serve as
>society’s moral compass, but disturbing to see @nbcsnl not
>just normalize but popularize #antisemitism,” he wrote on
>Twitter. “Why are Jewish sensitivities denied or diminished
>at almost every turn? Why does our trauma trigger applause?
>
>The Jerusalem Post tweeted: “The American comedian Dave
>Chappelle said during his SNL monologue that he ‘denounces
>antisemitism in all its forms’…before promptly engaging in
>antisemitic tropes.”
>
>While Time Out New York theater editor and critic Adam Feldman
>tweeted: “That Dave Chappelle SNL monologue probably did
>more to normalize anti-Semitism than anything Kanye said.
>Everyone knows Kanye is nuts. Chappelle posits himself as a
>teller of difficult truths. It’s worse.”
>
>Yet Tangle News founder Isaac Saul tweeted: “Let me be the
>first Jew to say: Dave Chappelle’s SNL open last night was
>hilarious, timely, honest, and a reminder that he still
>understands this country better than a lot of people whose
>whole job is to understand the country. It’s okay to
>acknowledge there are a lot of Jews in media and Hollywood.
>And like Dave said, you can simultaneously note that it’s
>very stupid to think this means they are in some cabal
>controlling the world.”
>
>Chappelle’s 15-minute monologue has racked up 3.2 million
>views in less than 24 hours on YouTube – more than any other
>SNL video since last May. It included comments such as
>Chappelle saying Ye broke “the show business rules of
>perception…if they’re Black, then it’s a gang. If
>they’re Italian, it’s a mob. But if they’re Jewish,
>it’s a coincidence and you should never speak about it.”
>(For full context, the monologue is below.)
>
>He added: “I’ve been to Hollywood…this is what I saw:
>It’s a lot of Jews. Like, a lot. But that doesn’t mean
>anything! There’s a lot of Black people in Ferguson,
>Missouri. Doesn’t mean they run the place.” The comedian
>said he understood how somebody could “adopt the delusion”
>that Jewish people “run show business…it’s not a crazy
>thing to think. But it’s a crazy thing to say out loud in a
>climate like this.”
>
>Chappelle also discussed NBA star Kyrie Irving, who recently
>was suspended from the Brooklyn Nets after he shared a link to
>the documentary Hebrews to Negroes: Wake Up Black America, a
>film that contains anti-Semitic sentiments. “He was slow to
>apologize,” Chappelle said. “And then the list of demands
>to get back in their good graces got longer and longer, and
>this is where I draw the line: I know the Jewish people have
>been through terrible things all over the world, but you
>can’t blame that on black Americans. You just can’t.”
>
>Before the monologue, Chappelle unfolded a piece of paper and
>read a dutiful statement — “I denounce anti-Semitism in
>all its forms, and I stand with my friends in the Jewish
>community” — and then added, “And that, Kanye, is how
>you buy yourself some time.”
>
>The uproar follows Chappelle receiving considerable blowback
>for two Netflix specials where he criticized the trans rights
>movement and made jokes that many felt were transphobic.
>
>Last year, Chappelle won an Emmy Award for, ironically enough,
>hosting Saturday Night Live.
>
>The Hollywood Reporter has reached out to NBC for comment.
>
>**edit**
>**end of swipe**
>
>For the record, I don't fully agree with the ADL here, I'm
>just presenting the news regarding them raising umbrage.
>Wonder what NBC will do next.
>

... than your run-of-the-mill thinkpiece types.

Tweeting a "movie screenshot," huh.

I see you're not serious.

Got any evidence of "extortion" or .. ?

without being labelled a bigot and losing deals is extortion


adl is running a protection racket


this happened because he tweeted a movie screenshot



I am begging you, let me know where im wrong.

If you don't have any you can just say so. I promise it's ok.

state your stance like an adult.

You're the one making outlandish claims about "extortion" without any evidence. You haven't even offered a clever conspiracy theory.

And that's ignoring the gross understatement about "tweeting a movie screenshot."

What is your timeline?

https://www.sportsmanor.com/nba-news-kyrie-irving-asked-to-donate-500k-to-charity-and-do-these-six-things-if-he-wants-to-return-to-brooklyn-nets-report/


A list of demands kyrie had to fulfill before he could go back to his job.

Which you still haven't provided.


>Thats literally what he did. Tweeted a movie screenshot

Once again I can see that you're deeply unserious.

Nice talking to you, tho.

Do you think the reaction to kyrie and the demands made of him are proportionate to his original offense?

... like you did without even a sliver of evidence, you're no better than a Q conspiracy theorist.

And while I don't think the punishment quite fits the crime, I also have zero sympathy for Kyrie and his anti-semitism so I'm not gonna expend any energy defending him. Because while I think the punishment is slightly over the top, I don't think the space between his offenses and his punishment is all that wide.

Was it painful to give a direct answer?


ADL is a protection racket and got raided by the FBI for illegally spying on civil rights groups and labor unions. (fact check me)



The amount of paranoia and fear mongering these guys are able to pull off with zero backlash is astounding. all while funding a genocide in Israel


Q anon would have to work very hard to get the amount of blood on their hands the adl/zionist lobby collected. but kyrie is your enemy. disgusting

>Was it painful to give a direct answer?

In hindsight, based on your wacky response, yes.


>ADL is a protection racket and got raided by the FBI for
>illegally spying on civil rights groups and labor unions.
>(fact check me)
>
>The amount of paranoia and fear mongering these guys are able
>to pull off with zero backlash is astounding. all while
>funding a genocide in Israel

Cool man. All's I said was that I'd assume/hope that they, as an organization, are more thoughtful about what/who they respond to than Joe Thinkpiece from Buzzfeed or TMZ or whatever the fuck. That's not even a definitive statement ! Just a hope. LOL. Remember, that's how this all started, you responding to that very harmless line.


>Q anon would have to work very hard to get the amount of blood
>on their hands the adl/zionist lobby collected.

But but I wasn't comparing Qanon to ADL, I was comparing your verbiage to the type of outlandish nonsense a Q follower would spew. Try to keep up.


> but kyrie is
>your enemy. disgusting

LOLOLOL who said anything about enemies, you're a trip man.

but no facts


my entire point has been the adl, as an organization, has no record of being thoughtful or ethical. i wasn't even coming at you, just pointing out they're extortionists

and your employer says you condone raping, killing and eating folks?

and you had to fulfill 5 steps to get your job back?

Apples and firetrucks.

>Hopefully NBC keeps it moving. SNL is a sketch comedy show
>that makes fun of stuff and people of various ilk, usually in
>mildly clever ways, not usually in overtly 'mean-spirited'
>ways. And really, no one there is actually 'in charge' of
>anything. I wish these websites and twittery folks would be
>more 'up in arms' and/or 'in the weeds' on how a Hershel
>Walker type could fetch anywhere near roughly half of the
>votes for any kind of 'real elected office position' from any
>subset of human beings in the US.

If the ADL puts pressure on sponsors, advertisers, or goes the drastic route to raise a stink with Comcast, NBC might not be able to 'keep it moving' or ignore their response. I have no clue how much attention the ADL's response is getting, so I can't tell if that's a possibility.

To go back to what Chapelle said in that monologue about not having a sneaker deal, he is somewhat free in that he isn't beholden to any corporate bosses that he has to answer to at the moment. I'm assuming he doesn't have any more stand up specials he's obligated to record for Netflix. Is that accurate?

Immediately calling people antisemitic at the mere mention of the 2 words...kind of reinforces the stereotypes and tropes that are claimed to be antisemitic

There wasn't much of a conversation IRT Kyrie's tweet...what exactly was antisemitic in the doc he linked? Antisemitic = suspended... after a history of posting dumb $hit

Kanye was counting his billion$ while saying slavery was a choice. Says the 2 words = bye bye $$$

Please tell me exactly what was antisemitic in Dave's monologue?

Let's discuss... instead of just silencing everyone

so I don't know if they have interest in having a conversation; it appears they want to correct what they view was a wrong in allowing Dave to air his views. I don't think they have interest in a back and forth.

This is one example of 3 in as many weeks
Kanye loses a billion
Kyrie is suspended
NBC next on the summer jam screen

Isn't that kind of reinforcing the tropes they claim are antisemitic?

That's some power for your a$$

I just want to know what was antisemitic about any of the 3 recent examples

Just claiming something is antisemitic off top, immediately silencing the person and deading the conversation... doesn't help anyone.

everything from "Chappelle defends Kanye's anti-semitism" to "Chappelle backs Trump"

i could easily see this being blip that fades away by mid week, or getting blown up. We'll see.

also this doesn't seem like it's gonna be a slow news week

Something I think we can ALL agree upon: I hope he doesn't get cancer from the chain smoking - or when he does that it is caught early.

I can't find a clip online but the scene is: Run DMC are being chased by hitmen and they run into a crowd in NYC. The hitman see Run in a crowd and turn him toward them - but wait - it's a Hasidic Jew.

Repeat once again for DMC, and maybe once for JMJ.

Then on the last turn IT IS JMJ but then JMJ throws a punch that literally disintegrates/breaks the screen. End scene.

Edit:Here's the link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEe47YfBtJk#t=1h12m40s

I swear OKP’s look for reasons to not laugh

and I started to write a whole think piece in response....but I didn't possess the energy...

I just ran the joke back a few more times and enjoyed a few more hearty laughs...


"Get ready....for your blessing....."
"Bury me by my Grand-Grand and when you can come follow me"

I'll try to remember not everyone has studied important culturally history as well as I have.

If I find a joke taken from The Disorderlies or Rappin' I'll point it out, but I won't call it hacky.

If Kid Rock hosts and says ZZ top looks Hasidic too I'll point out The Simpsons episode that dealt with that too.

Tougher than Leather IS a bad film, but the score sounding like differnt takes of You Be Illin, the Beastie Boys being silly, Lois Ayres, Rick Rubin as a piece of shit, a clearly drunk Russell Simmons, and even a brief Slick Rick siting make it worth seeking out. And RUN DMC as Truck Turner types still kills me.

I barely remember that movie because it was so bad.. lol.

none of that matters tho.. its all about the timing. That shit hit.

Made me want an entire show of Dave writing for the cast
BlackStar did my favorite 2 songs of the album
Great episode IMO.

He's supposed to be "obsessed" with trans jokes ?

Excellent monologue by Dave the skits were good too.

which is why the trans jokes got so much pub..

“its punching down”

like comedians can only punch one direction.

>which is why the trans jokes got so much pub..
>“its punching down”
>like comedians can only punch one direction.


Yep not much of a comedian if he is limited to one direction.

>which is why the trans jokes got so much pub..
>
>“its punching down”
>
>like comedians can only punch one direction.

as an example of topics/groups comedians supposedly shouldn't touch

...GC's interview was used to get at Dave on here.


just because you didn't know about it doesn't mean its made up.

for his recent material (With good reason from the sound of it)

Now Dave is WAYYY Funnier/more likeable than the Watermelon Man(Not Godfrey Cambridge) but still...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9U9RwgtBWmw


"Get ready....for your blessing....."
"Bury me by my Grand-Grand and when you can come follow me"

…he fucked up. Acknowledging off the rip, HE FUCKED UP.

But there’s something really perverse going on when everyone keeps giving him a platform to speak too. Constantly we’re being told he’s crazy. Constantly we’re being told he’s antisemitic. Ok, fair. But what’s it say of all these dogshit podcasts, Tv shows, and paparazzi to keep giving him an opportunity to speak? Aren’t they at all complicit in his crusade?

Shit is gross man. Same people who act flabbergasted by Kanye are the first to put a mic and camera in his face too.

ummm, he about to die.

Praying for his kids too

cause umm… yeah.

Be saying stuff that’s really not THAT outlandish sometimes….



"Get ready....for your blessing....."
"Bury me by my Grand-Grand and when you can come follow me"

Like , it’s totally fair of Kanye to question whether the punishment fits the crime here. He’s ass out in record time, his fortune has just evaporated. Meanwhile Gap and Adidas still doing business in Saudi and China I’m sure.

Where he quickly (and deservedly) loses people is shit like “Jewish media”, and “mind control”, and “slavery was a choice”, and “so and so is programmed.” Ya know, the musings of a person with mental illness.

the momma sacrifice admission fucks with me

like.. maybe dude is wildin out but ummm, yeah..

monetize and traumatize

that shit doesn’t sound that crazy. Remember when Chappelle said Hollywood had Martin Lawrence wildin out and he said something aint right about the ability to break that man like that.

Shoooot....we STILL don't really know what made Chris Tucker jump out the paint so abruptly at least EYE don't...but I remember thinking it was kinda sudden and odd considering his trajectory.

>Shoooot....we STILL don't really know what made Chris Tuckervv
>jump out the paint so abruptly at least EYE don't

Agreed. We don’t know. So, given that we don’t know, what is it that this is an example of, apart from a mystery for which we have no real answer?

On some Tila Tequila, mk ultra, targeted individual type shit

As though bad things dont happen and people don’t have mental breakdowns, that’s just what They want you to think!

just shocked to hear him say the same thing.

No idea about Tila tho.. never followed her.

To who, for what, what is the actual evidence to support that conclusion, etc

Which is why I’m asking for the reasons you believe/suspect it.

I just want to know whats driving that conclusion.

Reasons.



"Get ready....for your blessing....."
"Bury me by my Grand-Grand and when you can come follow me"

In your own belief.

The “energy” it took to say that is the same energy it would have taken to list a few bits of evidence to support the claim.

That’s your prerogative and all. But let’s not pretend that this whole idea has any factual merit whatsoever.

Like do you also believe Kanye when he said that people brought over fake kids, professional actors, to sexualize his kids?


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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

Of having plausible things happen to them.
I’m not going to be dismissive of something that I believe is plausible no matter who’s saying it.



"Get ready....for your blessing....."
"Bury me by my Grand-Grand and when you can come follow me"

It’s plausible that the proverbial butler did the proverbial murder in a game of clue

Does that mean the butler did it?

Or do we need more information to determine whether or not it’s a reasonable conclusion?

>

that was promoted and monetized by her mother...

and the rest of her family looks nothing like they did when the Kardashian show started..

and all of them are sexualized

and Katelyn Jenner transitioned, won woman of the year, killed someone in a car accident.. and is a MAGA supporter.

I mean... its not really too crazy to fear your kids will be sexualized for fame and money?

especially when you are generating 100’s of mlillions of dollars and then want to take your business elsewhere

>especially when you are generating 100’s of mlillions of
>dollars and then want to take your business elsewhere

That’s a general idea, i think x happens for y reason.

Ok. Cool.

I still want to know what drives that conclusion.

Because anytime a famous person, or relative of a famous person dies, things like this come up: so and so was a sacrifice.

But there’s never any real evidence behind it. It’s always a loose thread connecting dots that don’t appear to actually exist, yet believed with a seemingly high degree of certainty.

People die. Bad things happen. Accidents happen. People commit suicide, etc.

And sometimes, there are enough inconsistencies or evidence that draws the official story into question, yet still doesn’t provide enough evidence to actually support an alternate theory.

I.e, when Fluid says we don’t know why Chris Tucker did what he did, I think that’s where it ends: we don’t know, until/unless we have real information to support a conclusion, conspiracy or otherwise.

His mom died in like '07. He was doing well but Ludacris was a bigger deal than him at the time.

Let me get this straight though. Kanye is no longer controlled like Diddy, Jay-Z, Beyonce and all the other black folks, yet in all his raging and stream of consciousness truth telling he hasn't explained to the world how his mother was sacrificed for money?

I think I would have lead with that to expose a cabal.


**********
"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

Which is why I was being semantic with the language people use to describe certain things. We don't want to fall into the same types of rhetorical traps that the extreme right does. Then we're no better than them.

I think most of us agree his best music was before 2007.

As Ye has made shittier music and uglier clothing his fame and wealth has skyrocketed.

and “worth” 2.5 Billion before it all fell down.

and as his music got shittier he gained more fame.. lol.

and c’mon, you know damn well we acknowledge this shit is a conspiracy. Aint none of running up in Adidas on some Jan 6th to get his Yeezies back.

All you did was give a starting point and and end point

How about actual evidence of an actual sacrifice?

Do you have anything of genuine substance for this?

Yes, he had a name, a brand, ambition, and connections, and capitalized on that.

There's a rational explanation for his explosion of wealth.

Yet, somehow you think it's more plausible that his mom was sacrificed- to who? by who?- so that he could become a billionaire, only for there to be yet another conspiracy to bring him back down.

and 3 months ago he had a 2 Bill evaluation.

and his music has been kinda trash these last 10 years.

AND you know damn well we acknowledge its some conspiracy shit.

after the epstein incident, no accusation should be off the table for people in politics/entertainment/finance

>RE: theres countless people in the industry who will say this happens

Without evidence.


>after the epstein incident, no accusation should be off the
>table for people in politics/entertainment/finance

The difference being that there was actually *some* evidence in the Epstein death that the conspiracy could possibly be true.

Good god, this dude really is jesus to some of you

i was like.."Good luck and be safe"


>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9U9RwgtBWmw
>
>
>"Get ready....for your blessing....."
>"Bury me by my Grand-Grand and when you can come follow me"

I mean do you believe Kanye sacrificed his mom for money/stardom?


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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

And conspiracy theorists will conspiracy theorize

"Get ready....for your blessing....."
"Bury me by my Grand-Grand and when you can come follow me"

Dave Chappelle jokes about everyone’s racism, pain, and hardship.
And Jews, like all other cultures, are not beyond reproach.

is how the ADL pays their bills. They issue 10 public releases a day criticizing stuff for being Anti-semitic. There has been no outcry from anyone else regarding this.


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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

Glad to hear it used here too.

Stop pretending it is.

Nelson Mandela may disagree with you.

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>At least Lorne keeps banking beer commercial money!!!!
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The Honest Liar stuff. Not sure how I feel about it because it really sounded like he had a begrudging respect for Trump.



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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

from the first time he hosted SNL. The joke wasn't from his perspective, but from the point of view of Ohio voters that support Trump. In addition, I think the joke was a good reminder for folks not to underestimate just how much power Trump still unfortunately holds with the masses, which I think was the point of the joke.

Lastly, I'm pretty sure I remember Dave saying he was a Democratic right around the time he landed that punchline about Trump being an honest liar.

of being Trump fans or GOP fans simply by pointing out what they do that works.

he wasn't telling anyone else to do it, he just said that he was willing to

"In that spirit, I’m wishing Donald Trump luck. and I’m going to give him a chance. And we, the historically disenfranchised, demand that he give us one, too."

when people really listen to what he is saying its extremely nuanced

I still laugh my ass off anytime I think about the end of his Netflix special.

It was never about the transsexuals.. it was always about…. WHITE PEOPLE!!!

and that’s why dude is the goat. All his comedy really centers around how fucked up white people are and how we have to navigate within their world.

“White people are infants, everything they are saying now.. we BEEN ON THAT!”

https://twitter.com/DrTruth247/status/1592471784053698560


It's funny because the co-host fall for it. Like they do exactly what he says everyone does.


BTW, this kind of points out why I think Kanye, Kyrie and Chapelle are all doing 3 different things.

Chapelle is making jokes. Satire to illuminate facts about how black people are treated differently in this country.

Kyrie, I really don't believe he had any idea what he was saying was harmful to jewish people. I just think dude is pro-black and is parroting pro-black Black Isrealite ish that real goal is to promote black people (I think Black Isrealites get it wrong but I do have a somewhat soft spot for them because I think there main goal is pro-black).

Kanye, is coming from either place, satire or love of black people. He was just as mad at black people a few months ago when he felt we weren't supporting him. He's coming at jewish people because he believes in conspiracies that they are controlling him.

The internet doesn't do nuance and distinctions but I do think they are all different.


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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

Of the three, only Dave actually put thought into his words and actions. He should not be lumped in with these other two jokers AT ALL

Kyrie thrives on being an antagonist. He’s not as articulate or clever as he thinks he is, just a dumb troll

Kanye is a documented bipolar narcissist. Cue Kanye shrug.

>
>Of the three, only Dave actually put thought into his words
>and actions. He should not be lumped in with these other two
>jokers AT ALL
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>Kyrie thrives on being an antagonist. He’s not as articulate
>or clever as he thinks he is, just a dumb troll
>
>Kanye is a documented bipolar narcissist. Cue Kanye shrug.

I'm pretty much with you here.

And sadly, Kyrie lives in a world where trolls have never gotten more attention and/or been more successful.

Here's my internetty whatabout: it is kind of wild that most of the US's political system is mildly organized trolling and lowest common denominator abuse (immagrants! Oooga Booga! Gunz! Oh noooooooo!), but I'm supposed to believe that Kyrie deserves to be barred from hooping, endorsements, and earth in general cuz he lazily tweeted some shit out, people did what they do on Twitter, and he said 'yeah, I'm not playing this game with yawl' before he came back with a 'I'm sorry. I wasn't trying to do what yawl are saying I was doing. For real. I'm just lazy. Now, can I play? I actually want to play now.'?

In defense of Kyrie, this latest round started because he liked and retweeted a video that is pretty popular among a segment of the black community and I would guess he didn't know the anti-Semitic implications of. The post game interview about it it pretty clear he doesn't seem to want to talk about it or draw attention the way Kanye, Musk, et al.

He never wanted to be the face of anti-vaxx'ing. Like he was never in Pressers talking about the vaccine and he hated the anti-vaxxer press & support he got.

Even the flat earther stuff. Its a comment he made in a low view podcast that was amplified by the media.


He's a low information dude saying shit brothers say in the barbershop all the time who doesn't get he can't say any of that stuff now because the press loves to see what dumb thing he says next. I bet if dude could, he would never do another press conference again. He's contractually obligated to so them. He really doesn't at all seem to seek it like a Dennis Rodman.


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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

He retweeted the link…days after Kanye’s Jew rant
He retweeted some Alex Jones conspiracy bull$hit…while he was on trial for defamation
Sheeeeeeeiiiiittt
I remember him going on first take after the flat earth nonsense
I agree…base…he needs to understand the impact of his actions
Beyond the antisemitism…I sincerely hope he receives the message
My concern is given the Kanye example…that Kyrie doesn’t get the message and we watch him unravel too…
IMO, too many people are projecting their interest on the topic
Bruh needs help, and that should be everyone’s first priority

But c’mon with the…he’s not doing it for attention
I don’t even f with bruh like that and know he has a history of doing this again and again
Just a coincidence?

always cracked me up the way people on here were all “omg, just get the shot” anytime Black folk were suspicious

Black folk dont trust doctors or government.. put them together and you have the perfect storm.

the barbershop ep was perfect. Fuck your white science and white facts, lol

regular people. people who aren't in this weird liberal/middle class bubble, or right wing nuts.


the people frothing at the mouth about it are far more radicalized than they think.

The league is overwhelming majority black
Miss me with the deflection
I'm sure th NBA players that got vaxxed know enough black people.

You didn't answer the question
This behavior preceded the pandemic
and if you remember, Kyrie even opted out of the bubble
Before there even was a vaccine
Like I said, I don't even f with dude like that
But even I can pull references off the top of my head that are evidence of problematic behavior

Dude wants to be the constant contrarian and is left grasping for straws when called on his bull$hit

So, just a coincidence?

What you are missing is that Kyrie opinion are not at all controversial for most regular black people. It's the SNL barbershop sketch.

Like the shit Kyrie says I've heard thousands of times. Shit I went through a 5% phase at one point in my life.

Which isn't to say that I agree with him. I think he is wrong and with a broader education he could learn how he is wrong, or at the very least know what you aren't supposed to say or promote when you are superstar athlete who wants endorsement deals.

So again, I just don't think he understands that these things he is saying is controversial because well they aren't that controversial in an all black environment.

And no there is no coincidence. He tweeted the movie because Kanye says we are Semites and Kyrie tweets what he thinks is a source proving that claim. I really don't believe he understands the anti-Semitic roots of this particular black nationalistic movement. I say that after having to explain to homies more than once how blaming the Rothchilds or Soros for controlling the world is actually an age old anti-semitic trope.

Again he is a low information dude who really doesn't understand the landmines that he is stepping on IMHOP.

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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

What Kyrie is doing isn’t really shocking to the average Black person.

based on history why the fuck wouldn’t Black folk be skeptical?

Not sure what you mean by the NBA being mostly Black. You think if it was voluntary all these
NBA players would get vaccinated?

and this is what trips me out about the NBA vs NFL. Fans on OKS were quick to boycott the NFL over Kaep but most of them didn’t say shit when the NBA forced them to stand for the pledge.

Not sure if that was your point about the racial breakdown of the NBA but players see how some get treated when they were skeptical of the vax and just stfu i stead of standing their ground.

and the corporate folks like Barkley were quick to call Kyrie all types of names. Barkley was outspoken when he played and said a lot of dumb shit too.

Which one of my replies contained shock and outrage?

My concern IRT Kyrie, as I've stated, is the escalation of behavior

IMO, bruh needs help and I hope this incident will be the catalyst for just that.

I'm replying to the topic of Kyrie not trolling or doing this for attention

As Dave said...not crazy to think...but crazy to say out loud...

Your replies make it seem like is a litmus test for blackness
... which doesn't really have anything to do with my replies...
But my point about the NBA being majority black is to illustrate how silly of an idea that is
... being that no other player is making flat earth statements, retweeting Alex Jones conspiracies and antisemitic films...

I'm saying his behavior as whole is problematic and a symptom of a bigger issue

You're disregarding any other behavior and just focusing on the film
There's more going on with bro than Hebrews to Negroes.

multiple players and former players: NOPE

Curry: Me neither.. they are going to come get us.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2810107-stephen-curry-says-he-doesnt-believe-man-landed-on-the-moon

This is why I said Blackness.. you don't have a clue how Black people view so-called history in the US. We are skeptical of a LOT of shit for obvious reasons.

If you were Black you would understand. It's not a litmus test, the shit is NORMAL to most Black people. Questioning other races, the vax, the moon landing, the FBI, the government.

That shit is normal Black discussions at our dinner tables.

of the government are not endemic to black americans.

floating a conspiracy to talk about QAnon

One group storms the capital and shoots up pizza shops

at most, Black men joke about it at Barber shops or you know, play basketball for a living.

So you agree, he's trolling and doing it for attention...?

but I don’t think he was trolling as much as letting folks know he watched a movie/documentary.

I haven’t watched or researched the movie but its really no different than Ice Cube posting this image.

https://www.billboard.com/music/rb-hip-hop/ice-cube-criticized-anti-semitic-images-conspiracy-theories-9400472/

https://www.thedailybeast.com/jon-stewart-defends-dave-chappelle-from-charges-of-antisemitism

as usual, Jon sounds really on point here.

I see how it goes.


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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

i teach that the Blackman is God

It's a joke.

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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

This is funny as hell.

Quote of the month.

Shoshanna's brother revealed Jerry knew their family for years... Jerry officially began dating Shoshanna at 18 while he was 38. When will the media address a grown ass man preying upon a teenager?

Dave didn't say anything wrong. Certain communities are free from attacks and jokes.

Smh

>At least Lorne keeps banking beer commercial money!!!!

I blame Lorne.

https://twitter.com/Krisplashed/status/1594447319721803776

I could hear the chanting from my crib. I think it's weird wanting to be Israelites but I am for anything that has brothers living better lives. Christianity, Black Israelites, Islam, Flying Spaghetti Monster, whatever floats your boat.



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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/radical-hebrew-israelites

I’m confident Kyrie didn’t watch the movie before retweeting
Jaylen Brown retweeted the link above…before he knew who they were
SMH, these dudes are the definition of smart dumb.

You expect me to take a page seriously when they call someone "anti-white" like its a bad thing? like it damages lives on the same scale anti blackness has?


No hate crimes. no massacres. nothing. just a bunch of dudes yelling and reading books. They never organized around killing crackers but yall clutching pearls.

you people have no sense of proportionality and are desperate to paint black people as equally hateful as white people. the history doesnt back it up.

Which one of my replies contained pearl clutching?
While I agree, most of the black Israelite behavior rises to being a nuisance and antagonist
The Israel United in Christ sect has some problematic issues
…it’s really interesting that grown adults can’t have a discussion about this issue…
Either get shutdown by antisemitic accusations from one side
Or whatever I’m being accused of in here
Kind of hard to discuss with these over reactions.

LOL@you people
WTF
You replied to a bunch of things I never said.
SMH@the KKK false equivalency
C’mon

calling them extremists.

its a wack ass article that reduces oppression to just "hate" and bad feelings.

they're a "hate group" with no hate crimes and you people (yes, you people) think its a fitting label

Im accusing you of bringing a reductionist perspective to the conversation.

I appreciate seeing Black men chanting/singing in unison..

And what criticism of them you don't think also applies to Nation of Islam, Islam or even Christianity?

As misguided as I think these guys are around history and organizing principles, these guys have no history of hurting anybody. In fact, a lot of these guys might otherwise be involved in some really non-productive negative stuff if it weren't for their religion.

I really don't get worked up over Mormon's mormon-ing despite thinking its a silly made up religion with racist origins. I definitely find it difficult to hate on a group that keeps brothers off the streets and not doing dumb ish.

I think it was cool for my boys to see a bunch of black men together united singing together being positive with one another and towards my kids.

I stand by my original statement and less you can provide some evidence of them doing harmful stuff with the black community.



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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

impressive

do that math.. lol

every city I have been to seems to have them too

they deep in the 5 boroughs

they've been posting up on Eastern Parkway and Utica Avenue on Saturday afternoons.

No, I'm not a member nor do I have interests in their teachings. I have to pass by them on the way back home from my Saturday chores. Them and the dollar vans clogging up the streets normally angers me, but that's not the main reason for the response.

The first time I saw them, I was shocked they were still around yelling on NYC sidewalks as I only vaguely remember them when I was a kid in the 80's and them barking at people in major tourists spots in Manhattan.

Mexican Israelites a few months back at the train station by McArthur park, preaching in Spanish.

It was magnificent

Team Zebulon?