smh

https://www.tmz.com/2022/11/01/migos-takeoff-dead-dies-shot-houston-quavo-migos/

regardless NO ONE deserves to die like that

even more fucked up if true.

over a gotdamn dice game.

https://twitter.com/raphousetv2/status/1587410650736779265?s=46&t=7VnHkrPtymtRm5Lb6N6c5g

Damn, nigga was just getting started.

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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

.

This shit keeps happening, we keep going "damn, that's wild" and it'll just keep going.

I hope something makes this shit stop. The tide needs to change. The talk, the culture, the music, the actions.
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"To Each His Reach"

but.....

Fuck aliens.

>smh
>
>https://www.tmz.com/2022/11/01/migos-takeoff-dead-dies-shot-houston-quavo-migos/

Something I hear a lot in passing is how SEVERAL rap dudes went lowkey in the late 90s once the Tupac and Biggie stuff went down.

IE: Bun B recently told a story about how Pimp C was supposed to be on Jay-Z's A Week Ago along with Too Short (which would've been EXCELLENT), but Jay-Z wasn't down to go to Atlanta to meet Pimp in person so it ended up not happening.

Now, I'm blown away with how cats are STILL posting their location in real time. Even though that doesn't seem like that directly led to this issue, I question it quite a bit. And I hate feeling like I want dudes to stay in the house or at least not be out late, but that's how I feel..especially right now.

28? Man that sucks.

I've had cats say to me 'oh, he was with J Prince Jr!' like who you're with somehow gives you a protective shield. I hope cats make some adjustments.

because from what I understand Takeoff wasn't the one playing it was Quavo, but still I'm a (relatively)broke Nobody and I can't imagine hopping in a dice game with some randos,, let alone if I was a rich celebrity.

It's way more dangerous to be a rapper now than ever

or did their people think someone was cheating?

Wondering if this was a private party?

be less accessible overall.

the dudes they were playing with WERE their protection. Seems a friendly dice game with their own security escalated very quickly to gunfire.

But who knows, take it with a grain of salt.



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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

To be more specific, Like J Prince is at the heart of it.

Like you can't go to Houston in Rap and not kiss the ring or be under his protection. And Migos was there with them.

Also seems like it was J Prince folk who got into it with Quavo.

What's wild is I get nervous typing that dudes name on an anonymous message board.


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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

and hit you with a "courtesy call" lmao.

I know his son has kinda taken over the shit but yea, just wanted to make sure we speaking on the right J Prince here

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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

Akademics when he asked Takeoff about being left off Bad & Boogie lol, he was probably the one that pulled the trigger

and I was so confused that there was a third member...

only in vegas.


has losing a dice game in the streets EVER ended well?

>only in vegas.
>
>
>has losing a dice game in the streets EVER ended well?

28, ugh

growing up, dice games were always a risk, even as a spectator.

it's unfortunate.

and enjoy life

I can’t imagine being 28, rich and famous and having to stay at the crib because some people don’t know how to act.

I know being famous is what a lot of people dream of but that shit comes with a ridiculous amount of rules and limitations.

plus he wasn't partying. he was outside a bowling alley wit a bunch of people playing dice.

even if they are untrained security. You think Chance The Rapper is shooting craps with some random dudes with guns?

obviously he is alive but that doesnt mean he hasn’t been in a similar situation.

and i'm 99.9 percent sure, from knowing certain folks, he's been in some potentially dangerous situations where guns could have been involved.

but you're right, you should be able to live your life. i'm not with anyone saying he was wrong to be out, regardless of who he was.

like, most people just don't think "if i go out, i might not make it home" especially because, from reports circulating online, he was supposed to be with people who would be shielding him from danger.

…I’m not gonna be out playing dice with them at 2am (or thereabouts)

There are a thousand places less dangerous to hang out at than that….again not to victim blame, in an ideal world, an outdoors dice game should be perfectly safe

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I don’t think this had anything with wanting his “meat”

by who youre hanging around. as successful as they are it aint no reason to still be shooting dice and hanging around that element. thats my beef with it.

Can't be a everything to lose nigga hanging out with nothing to lose niggas.

>Can't be a everything to lose nigga hanging out with nothing
>to lose niggas.

But if those were your friends before. Or if that's how you lived for 20+ years some people take longer to change.

Don't forget: It's the guns. Very rarely do we hear about a rapper being beaten to death - although it has happened.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_murdered_hip_hop_musicians

Scott LaRock
Tupac
Biggie
Big L
Jam Master Jay
Proof
Takeoff

Dont let them bring you down.

from that type of shit as possible. I was definitely not about that life coming up but I had friends that I had known since elementary school that were. Whenever I was around them and there was potential for shit to go down they'd be like "Aye Truth you need to get the fuck out of here because shit about get real". We'd all be riding in the car together and they'd be like "we need to drop you off because we're about to go do some shit and we know your parents don't play lol". My family was mostly known as scholar/athlete/Christians and they were more scared of what my family would do to me and them if they got me caught up in some bullshit.

Change the people around you.

I understand, but takeoff paid too high of a price.

I knew a lot of folks at 28 who were still acting 19, but no one got shot.

“let me out”

its good you had friends like that.

i have “friends” that I will not hang out with when I go back home. Can’t trust them.

but I also been in situations where everyone was cool and a friend of a friend of a friend would wild out and fuck up a good time. Always that one friend with a cousin who popped up out the blue and turned a good night upside down.

>“let me out”
>
>its good you had friends like that.
>
>i have “friends” that I will not hang out with when I go
>back home. Can’t trust them.
>
>but I also been in situations where everyone was cool and a
>friend of a friend of a friend would wild out and fuck up a
>good time. Always that one friend with a cousin who popped up
>out the blue and turned a good night upside down.

some understand the concept, most in our culture never will

Damn

that dude wild

notice how he always shows up to shit on the deceased?

>notice how he always shows up to shit on the deceased?

shit he said about PnB Rock will forever be one of the most vile replies i've seen on this board in 20 plus years.

mods actually deleted that shit it was so bad.

https://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=4&topic_id=13468493&mesg_id=13468493&page=5#13468514

what i said about PnB Rock needed to be said

cry hoe.

that's why it's not deleted.

the shit you said was foul as fuck.

and, it did not need to be said.

"cry hoe?"

lulz.

Yeah he did it before

i remember one of the dudes in the warehouse at my old job was trying to get me to come out partying w/ him one weekend. i was like 27 so he was maybe 25 cause he was younger than me. dude describing the spot and some shit that went down there in the past and just casually threw in a "but I had the blade on me so it was cool"

im like dude you really just going to places that you gotta have something on you and dont see the problem w/ it? "i mean yeah it's poppin. sometimes it can go down tho"

aight fam you got it. its more than enough fun to be had w/ people that know how to act

This shit sucks..

I'm gonna need successful rappers to control their surroundings just a bit better. You can enjoy yourself and the spoils of your hard work w/o being around total strangers in public. Jay-z is not kicking it places randomly like that.

Also.. fucking guns man. When they are present shit gets squirlly

>Jay-z is not kicking it places randomly like

Definitely not 50 year old Jay, but 28 year old Jay?
He was 30 when he stabbed Un. Not like he was hanging out with Fortune 500 CEOs.

Yes, and he should accelerate the learning curve for those younger guys...

Big and Tupac learned the worst way.

Its actually kind of wild to see Diddy on the street having words with cats (granted it was Kim Ks party but why you having words in the street).

But you won't catch Jay these days at some random ass party with hood cats.



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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

>Big and Tupac learned the worst way.
>
>Its actually kind of wild to see Diddy on the street having
>words with cats (granted it was Kim Ks party but why you
>having words in the street).
>
>But you won't catch Jay these days at some random ass party
>with hood cats.
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>"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then
>they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson
>
>"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

I'm in this line. Dudes in the 90s were WILD and taking hella chances.

Jay and Puff both got guardian angel'd out of some silly situations that could've tanked them bigtime. Nas and Snoop too depending on which stories you believe.

They were SUPER sloppy...

But that was almost 30 years ago when rappers were first seeing HUGE success. Have we learned nothing?

and it's easy to place blame/fault

but systemic issues play a major, defining role here.

there's layers to this shit, and your question abt have we learned anything is loaded. who is "we"? if you're referring specifically to rappers, then you should also question who *sponsors* them and ponder for a sec abt what *they* have "learned" and subsequently acted upon.

"....meanwhile, the racists/white supremacists sit back and laugh"
-neely fuller, jr.

"WE" as in Hip Hop artists. So yes, the we is rappers.

I am not placing blame, I am frustrated by a generation losing their life.

The "sponsors" aren't even close enough to influence or dictate the day to day lives of most artist and artist camps so it is really on the ones closest to act.

>The "sponsors" aren't even close enough to influence or dictate the day to day lives of most artist and artist camps

agree to disagree.

Don’t a lot of these dudes have 360 deals? If labels held weekly meetings on Zoom explaining the million dollar deals (or even 50k deals lol) rappers are losing based on making x choice instead of y choice, I bet a lot of people would start making y choice.

Peace,

Spirit (Alan)
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