I'm geeked to see this movie

https://variety.com/2022/film/markets-festivals/tom-cruise-cannes-top-gun-maverick-fighter-jets-1235271089/

whose taste i trust in movies is that it's crazy good.

here's the thing, Top Gun is my favorite movie all time (bad timing for me based on that movie caucasity post, LOL), so this movie could be the worst movie of all time and i'm still gonna like it.

i have tickets for opening day already w/ the homies.

shit was looking pretty formulaic to me tbh.

it would be weird if it wasn't tbh

cannot fucking wait! Wife and I got tix for the 28th in IMAX.

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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

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>"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then
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>"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

https://graziamagazine.com/articles/did-you-know-quentin-tarantinos-7-minute-standing-ovation-in-cannes-is-actually-not-that-great/

Found that trying to remember how long the ovation was for Fahrenheit 9/11 (20 minutes..which then reminds me of, somebody on okp referencing that and saying jesus christ could appear in front of them and pull a rabbit out of a hat and theyd stand 10 min tops)

No one's on his level.

Dude may be a weirdo but good lawd does he know how to make an action movie. Bro is on his Tom Brady. Last part of his career may actually be better than the 80s and 90s.

career into 3 different eras that would all be Hall of Fame worthy on their own merits. Combined into one career??? GOAT.

....Cruise is more Bruce Willis, Liam Neilson, Curt Russel status

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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

and I love me some First Blood movies.

Actually just watched the worst one in the series the other night and that last fight sequence was top notch. That was peak John Woo era and Cruise embraced it all while keeping it from looking derivative.

He’s the Depp to Woo’s Burton.

This is absurd

...most people wont say he's better than the guys i've mentioned

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Thus proving Cruise is the action GOAT

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This guy said Tom Cruise is on Kurt FUCKING Russell status.

DAWG.

Action Movies.

That's before you add in Minority Report and Edge of Tomorrow.


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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

...i mean, LOL mission impossible over Indiana Jones, Star Wars and Terminator ...thats some real funny talk

If we are talking franchises, both Indiana Jones and Terminator have two great movies (maybe better than any MI movie) and way more trash movies.

MI has about 4-5 really good movies, and maybe 1-2 not good ones (nothing as bad as the worst Indiana Jones or Terminator movies).


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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

Kurt Russell???? Tom CRUISE?????? The GOAT???? Wow.

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...motherfucking Backdraft???

If I remember correctly, your take on music is pretty similar, whatever came out in the 80's is the GOAT and nothing can touch it.

he said Over the Top was better than Mission Impossible. Like…that’s not real. Can’t be.

but anything good about that movie pretty much stops right there.

he and a couple of buddies review movies that rated poorly…I literally just listened to the episode where they did OTT, yesterday. Pure hilarity. I’d forgotten how bas it was. To your point about the Hagar song…there’s also a fire Kenny Loggins song in there.

My favorite episodes are when they do a movie that I actually like.

to people, they don’t know wtf I’m talking about.

Kurt Russell himself even took that off his resume.

just...c'mon.

cruise could trip and fall on the sidewalk and make a better movie.

but after Predator and Total Recall that shit drops off hard

>but after Predator and Total Recall that shit drops off hard

Arnold was the GOAT before they even filmed a minute of T2

it’s terrible. Conan the Barbarian was a mid-tier movie. Destroyer (which was my favorite as a kid) was just horrible.

it sucks

More specifically, your take is glued to the things you enjoyed when you were younger.

It's completely natural and normal, but there’s nothing wrong with overtly admitting that you just like what was hot in your era. Because it’s clear that you’re not being objective here.

I’m 41 And grew up on every actor and film you’ve named, and frankly, most of them don’t hold up. The OG Rambo doesn’t really count as an “action” film, and 2&3 are trash- and are absolutely laughable to name as anything even close to Cruise’s filmography.

When you say Over The Top- a movie i love, but acknowledge is trash- is better than MI, the beat you can do is say that it’s your subjective opinion, because everything from the writing to plot to action to use of the tech of it’s time is objectively better in MI. It’s not remotely an objective opinion, which, again, is fine. But shit, at least admit it.

Citing things like Conan make this an joke
It’s some “back in my day” shit like a motherfucker

Sure, Ahnold may have held the crown at a time when there wasn’t exactly a high bar for action films- so someone was going to come in and raise that shit.

Cruise came in and refined the everloving shit out of the genre, raised it several notches higher, and then delivered film after film at that level, over a prolonged period of time.

T2 was some cultural zeitgeist shit no doubt, and yet Edge Of Tomorrow is, bare minimum, an equally good film, and is also one of the best executed sci-fi films ever made.

Minority Report is better than damn near everything you mentioned except for T2, but it’s not like it doesn’t compete, and it sons Total Recall.

I guess over the top went over your head because I was kidding there.. but the Tom Cruise obsession in here is really weird...the way you feel about him, people even younger might feel about The Rock (and they're wrong too)

... in which he's the leading man. Not even close, really.

He's got one or two in which he's part of an ensemble, and he's got one or two where he's the league that they're passably enjoyable catch-it-on-TNT movies.

But no one's out there touting Red Notice or Skyscraper or Jungle Cruise as being on par with even the lower-tier Cruise output.

Besides, The Rock clearly has no interest in being the best action movie star ever-- he's far more interested in being a brand. He's cranking out one or two mid-to-awful movies a year while hosting game shows, narrating sitcoms, selling products online, and making inspirational social media videos.

The Rock might not even make the Top 25 action movie stars list.

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LOL

The others are a reach, but its probably Ford.


Dude was/is an action star well into cashing his social security checks.


Huge piece of the two biggest franchises...plus all his other shit. Fugitive. Bladerunner. etc.


Cruise doesn't have anything touching Star Wars or Indiana Jones.


I know everyone is on a Top Gun high right now, but the breaks must be pumped.


Plus dude is a fucking weirdo and we shouldn't pretend he isn't. Sorry not sorry.

i used to hate on him in my younger days of tryna be a film snob

not proud of that era lol

Granted, his lane is action, but his track record is downright absurd

Have you seen Knight & Day? That shit is like... I dunno.. Bourne + Bond + Fast & Furious, trimiming off every ounce of fat, + a massive dose of dry comedy.

No joke, it was and still is, one of the most fun movies I've ever watched. Diaz kills her part too. It's the perfect summer action movie.

It's Cruise at his Crooooooziest, if that makes sense. He's hamming it up like crazy, and after all the heavier action films he's done, it's like you forget he can ham it up with the best.

only right for Tom to reclaim his spot now with the numbers if we talking action star numbers

The Bad Boys films
ID4 (sorry, but that’s a better film than T2 imo)
I, Robot
Enemy Of The State
MIB 1 and 3
I Am Legend
Hancock (criminally underrated and unfairly maligned IMO)

He’s got an excellent action resume, but he covers a lot of other lanes with his comedies and dramas, so his action filmography isn’t quite as dense as others.

was able to build a top 5 career (and likely #2 in terms of action) just off of the Tom Cruise blueprint in terms of the mix of action films with dramatic roles (though Will has the added success in critically acclaimed biopics.)

basically zero big budget movies I didn't enjoy which is just incredible.

but hey, do you

but until someone brings forth an actual counter (everything so far is a nope), i'm gonna hesitantly agree. even with the not even close follow up.

and at that time I was taken back but realized it was correct. Now???? No question at all. GOAT action star.

How hard is it to play the same character ?

https://youtu.be/zP8vh2Z8MSY?t=47

The Matrix franchise
John Wick franchise
Constantine
Point Break

He's done fewer action movies than you'd think-- basically just the ones you named, Speed (also a classic)... then 47 Ronin, The Day The Earth Stood Still, Chain Reaction, Johnny Mnemonic, and... like, Street Kings. So he's got a positive batting average but also some real stinkers... and yeah, guys like Cruise and debatably Arnold have more dope action movies than Keanu has even *done.*

That said, I do really love Keanu and think he's generally underrated in this debate. In terms of American action stars only, he belongs ahead of guys like Willis and probably even Stallone imo-- and I think he deserves a lot of credit for how many stunts he does himself compared to someone like Harrison Ford.

not sure why.. lol

Because, of top

Edge of Tomorrow
Knight & Day
Oblivion
HOW many MI films? 7 so far?
Shit, Les Grossman? can we get a whole movie for him?

I'm missing a lot. The Mummy is like Bruno, we don't talk about that shit.

But his resume over the last 15 years or so is fantastic.

(i know it's a filmography but LET ME COOK)

...saw that he's got two more MI films on the way.

no business being as enjoyable as it was

Collateral

>Collateral

out. I need to watch it again soon.

holds up really well

I re-watch it every couple years when i do a Michael Mann marathon.

on sabbatical.

does it really matter?

wonder what bin's doing?
http://i.imgur.com/phECCMp.jpg

Once you realize he's not actually "The Last Samurai" in the title and watched the movie. Was it a white guy perspective of a foreign topic? Yes. Was it dope as fuck? Also Yes.

Like, how many movies where Tom Cruise is the main character... are bad?

Because I'd submit you could probably count them on one hand. And you wouldn't even use all of your fingers.

Can't wait

Get it.

https://houseofhobbies.com/products/calibre-wings-1-72-f-14-tomcat-usn-ghost-rider-topgun-ca72tp02

... probably the last time Tom Cruise made a movie, lmao.

Easily one of the best of the last decade, and this will easily end up one of the best movies of the year. It's big, it's emotional, and the stuntwork is absolutely bananas. Fuck the best plane action, this might be the best fucking *vehicle* action ever in a movie. Those are real actors flying real planes. You can't use CGI to replicate the impact it has on an audience watching the actors' faces experiencing real Gs-- and watching the leading actor in the movie clearly flying the plane himself in so many shots.

The GOAT delivers once again. Not much to be said.

Man, I actually want to go see this movie this weekend. And I can‘t remember the last time I wanted to do that.

It’s worth it. I’ve seen it twice. If I wasn’t leaving town, I’d be seeing it a couple more, lol.

i can literally count on one had the movies i've went to see twice in the theaters in my life.

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https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/top-gun-opens-box-office-tom-cruise-1235155078/


All those actions stars named above couldn't dream of even having a $20 mill opener at this point. Crooz Da Action God Stay On Top

Cruise Da Gawd

https://www.boxofficemojo.com/article/ed3195077636/?ref_=bo_hm_hp

Though seeing Iceman in there even with that A/I voice was bittersweet to see, in a good way.